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3261  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: mtgox down! on: April 03, 2013, 08:02:38 PM
Looks like someone needs to invent the peer-2-peer exchange for the peer-2-peer currency.  Wink

Someone did and then nobody used it Grin
3262  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-04-03 MSN Money "Bitcoin becomes an online phenomenon" on: April 03, 2013, 08:01:36 PM
Love how they open with,

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Bitcoin, an alternative currency that doesn't exist physically

Because all those numbers sitting in bank accounts actually exist.
3263  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: mtgox down! on: April 03, 2013, 07:49:06 PM
Use another exchange Wink
3264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A humble attempt to contribute something. on: April 03, 2013, 07:48:02 PM
Ha!  Now we really gotta bring this idea to life.  I can lend my artistic talents OP if you ever have the time Grin
3265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC Stake on: April 03, 2013, 07:43:47 PM

Just like PoW mining there is some luck involved.  It is based off of how long they haven't been used for and also how much you have.  If you send it to another address it is reset.  But this doesn't exactly discourage spending cause its just 1% ppcoin per year.  And this method is quite secure also because it is hard to get 51%+ stake.  So instead of power protecting the network we have the coins protecting the network.

Oh!  That's interesting.  So you'd need to somehow get 51% of all the PPcoins available to have control over network.  That's a lot harder to accomplish, since, in BTC's case, you can coerce a group of miners into one pool and thus take over the network in this way, but you'll never coerce someone into sending all their coins.  However, if this managed to happen, it would be difficult to reverse the effect, wouldn't it?

Aside from that.  It would seem to me that you'd be better off putting some PPcoins in cold storage, and having a separate wallet in which you spend.  The cold storage coins slowly build up, and if you gotta break into it to get more funds, you have a few more than you had before.  1% really isn't a lot tho Tongue  It's almost pointless, lest you have quite a nice sum.

The other major problem is that for people with small sums, the amounts generated will eventually cost more in fees to spend than the stake outputs themselves, though SK states he also isn't concerned about this.

Also, stake isn't generated w/o being connected to the network, so cold wallets per say for stake generation are impossible.

So it only counts while online?  Would it have to be online 100% of the time to ever hit the time required to gain the 1% a year?
3266  Economy / Services / Re: Vircurex - Logo/Ad Banner Contest - 4 BTC on: April 03, 2013, 07:39:32 PM
I like this service, but I'd rather not participate.  Agree with other posters; you're asking for work without the promise of payment.  Normally when someone needs work done, they'll ask someone (or some people) to do it, and in return, the hours that person put in to get the work done are compensated.  In this case, workers come in thinking they're participating in a contest, but in reality, they're working for free at the leisure of the contest owner so he has more choices to pick from without paying for the option.  A contest should be reserved for just that: a contest.  People compete and someone comes out a winner, but we may not even get to enjoy that in this case:

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Vircurex reserves the right not to choose any winner.

Anyway.  I do enjoy this website and use it often, but I feel there are better, more legitimate means to producing a logo, than dangling 4 BTC on a string over our heads with the prospect that maybe one of us will get it.

Imagine if builders worked the same way.  Five teams of builders all created five separate homes, and the prospective buyer decides he doesn't want any of them, and nobody wins the home-building contest.  Tongue  Just a waste of time and resource because the guy who setup the contest couldn't be specific in what he wanted and who he wanted to do it.
3267  Economy / Speculation / Re: POP! (and up we go again....) on: April 03, 2013, 07:16:55 PM
Because it's Gox ROFL
3268  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitinstant - - Dwolla to Mt.Gox failed!! Where is my money? on: April 03, 2013, 07:15:38 PM
OH LAWDY

It's like every day there's a problem with Bitinstant Sad

You should post in the Bitinstant support thread, and you'll find someone who can help you out.  Should be stickied near the top of this board.
3269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC Stake on: April 03, 2013, 07:14:08 PM

Just like PoW mining there is some luck involved.  It is based off of how long they haven't been used for and also how much you have.  If you send it to another address it is reset.  But this doesn't exactly discourage spending cause its just 1% ppcoin per year.  And this method is quite secure also because it is hard to get 51%+ stake.  So instead of power protecting the network we have the coins protecting the network.

Oh!  That's interesting.  So you'd need to somehow get 51% of all the PPcoins available to have control over network.  That's a lot harder to accomplish, since, in BTC's case, you can coerce a group of miners into one pool and thus take over the network in this way, but you'll never coerce someone into sending all their coins.  However, if this managed to happen, it would be difficult to reverse the effect, wouldn't it?

Aside from that.  It would seem to me that you'd be better off putting some PPcoins in cold storage, and having a separate wallet in which you spend.  The cold storage coins slowly build up, and if you gotta break into it to get more funds, you have a few more than you had before.  1% really isn't a lot tho Tongue  It's almost pointless, lest you have quite a nice sum.
3270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC Stake on: April 03, 2013, 07:03:54 PM
After sitting on coins for 90d you make 1% per year mining stake blocks.  Stake blocks begin to be acquired after 30d.

That's odd.  What are they encouraging by doing this?  Save more?

No, eventually PoW mining will end and blocks will only be mined by PoS.  PoW is intended to give the initial distribution of coins to the network.  The 1% per annum is a tiny incentive to keep people mining coins so stake blocks are still generated.  It's been something that bothered me about the chain from the get-go, since it's not a particularly big incentive to let your coins sit and do nothing for 30-90d +, but Sunny King thinks it will work.

That's interesting.  I think I get it; by ending PoW mining, people will no longer have to burn loads of electricity and burnt computers, and instead, all that they got through the mining (and selling) will then be used to "mine" the rest.  So do the coins get automatically added to your wallet based on how many you have at the time?  And if you move them at all, does the counter reset?  Very unusual.  And is it as secure as the PoW method?
3271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC Stake on: April 03, 2013, 06:58:49 PM
After sitting on coins for 90d you make 1% per year mining stake blocks.  Stake blocks begin to be acquired after 30d.

That's odd.  What are they encouraging by doing this?  Save more?
3272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A humble attempt to contribute something. on: April 03, 2013, 06:47:30 PM
That's pretty awesome man Grin  Sounds like you've got the workings of a BTC graphic novel going on.
3273  Other / Off-topic / Re: Help me raise $500 for DEFCAD (The guys who make the 3D printable AR15 magazine) on: April 03, 2013, 06:29:54 PM
What you can do with your money and what you can manufacture without regulation are 2 completely different things.
Not really. They both come down to the reality that it's immoral for some people to use force and threats to tell other people what to do.

You have regulation on the manufacture of weapons for the same reason you have regulation on food standards, its a safety issue and is in no way comparable to regulation and the control of money and currency.

Food doesn't need to be regulated by government; the government is a collective whore and the FDA doesn't give two shits if factories are up to standard, so long as they're paid well.  Why can the people not regulate the food?  For example:  Bill ate a bad cheeseburger.  The meat was tainted.  The supplier of the meat was Company X.  Bill lets his colleagues know not to buy from Company X because they produce tainted meat, for their conditions for the meat are bad.  Company X goes out of business because they're not getting any business with their tainted meat; or, they improve the quality of their meat, and attempt to keep going with what they're going.

What's the government doing that people can't?  Right: making decisions for you.  If Company X made bad meat CONSISTENTLY (and they do, if you've been keeping up with the antics of the food industry), and they lobbied to stay in business and stay in supermarkets, why should Company X care about cleaner food conditions?  They shouldn't.  They don't want to, because cleanliness costs money, and profits need to be maximized.  It's a lot cheaper to buy a politician than the route I described earlier.  This leads to a severe decrease in quality goods.  This is the government to which you refer (I assume; sorry if you're not an American), and there is no scenario in a capitalistic society in which money does not apply.  To regulate anything is to regulate money.
3274  Other / Off-topic / Re: Help me raise $500 for DEFCAD (The guys who make the 3D printable AR15 magazine) on: April 03, 2013, 06:13:35 PM

I'm trying to reach out to the Bitcoin community, I'm not just asking random people for money.  Like I said, I think that their goals align a lot with the goals that many people have for Bitcoin.

If you don't want to donate, then I fully understand.  But you don't have to shit all over my idea without at least suggesting a better one.

Actually, I do, because your idea is non-existent.  I've already donated to this cause.  I'm not donating so you can fool someone else into thinking you're innovative.

There have already been numerous posts about DEFCAD on this site.  Nobody spreading the word before was asking for help to land them a job.  And why should I give you any ideas?  You've got an agenda to follow, and that agenda is, "Gotta get that job."  You're a few steps above leech.  If I have any ideas, I'll be sure to let the folks at DEFCAD know that it wasn't you who made them.
3275  Other / Off-topic / Re: Help me raise $500 for DEFCAD (The guys who make the 3D printable AR15 magazine) on: April 03, 2013, 04:49:01 PM
No offense, but, shouldn't I simply donate direct to DEFCAD?  This isn't the type of innovation they're looking for; asking people for money on your behalf is something anyone can do.  What are doing to up the ante?  If this is it, I don't think you deserve that job.
3276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I love you all. on: April 03, 2013, 04:45:20 PM
I don't believe we've ever spoken, OP, but you seem like just the type of guy I get along with.  My sentiments exactly, there has never been a community of such like-minded high-thinking individuals like that found here.

Almost sounds like I'm gloating Grin
3277  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin-opalypse on: April 03, 2013, 05:42:42 AM
I can't find the link but I read a good article recently about how the internet could go out. in summary if there was a convential war some country(ies) could bomb/blow up certain pipes underground and it would effectively cut the internet off.

NO NOT THE INTERNET Shocked  TAKE MY WIFE AND KIDS, ANYTHING BUT THAT
3278  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Zeevex on Steam, what about Bitcoin? on: April 03, 2013, 04:37:07 AM
I saw that a little while ago.  Didn't really understand who would want it.  Why would I buy game coins?  What the fuck would I do with those?  It's almost as bad as those free MMOs in which you have to buy all your equipment to progress through the game.  Just a waste of time.
3279  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Buying Bitcoins locally in Austin on: April 03, 2013, 04:27:04 AM
This is very slightly off topic, but

Why buy locally? Does it seem safer for some reason? Or is it because the exchanges are too hard to put money into? I've seen those websites that help connect people who want to buy and sell locally, but I don't understand the attraction.

1.  It's generally anonymous.  The guy you're trading with doesn't need to see your ID.  He doesn't need to see your driver's license.  He doesn't need to know your Social Security number.  He doesn't need to see a bill within the last 3 months that proves you live at the address you say you live at.  Any exchange involving USD will want at least one of these, if not all of them.

2.  Show up with cash, buy the coins, go home.  You have to pay for gas, but, that's about it.

3.  The exchanges are a bitch to put money into, as you said.  No matter what you do, there's a lengthy process involved.  USD is just fucking hard to move around, thanks to regulation; the gov has to make sure you're doing what they want you to do with your money.
3280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC up to $3.8! on: April 03, 2013, 03:32:22 AM
With Litecoin's fast transactions and resistance to centralization (more ASIC proof), I could see Litecoin potentially giving BTC a run for its fiat if there is wider adoption.  For merchants to be able to use these cyptocoins, the quicker confirmation could be a huge benefit in.  At this point BTC still takes much too long for actual retail use.  Secondly, since people are now getting familiar with the wallets and cryptocoin transactions, the hurdle for LTC to be adopted seems a lot less.

My thoughts as well.  Store in Bitcoin, trade in Litecoin.  Perfect complements.
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