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581  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll: Political Affiliation of Bitcoiners on: January 04, 2014, 11:48:11 PM
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?

Free thought in a dictatorship is always extreme Smiley.

Such odd times we live in where "stop waving that gun at me" is an extremist line Tongue
582  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How much external immigration do you want in your country? on: January 04, 2014, 11:43:08 PM
Just let everyone live where they wish.

While Immigration is great and a vital part of most economies, you can't just say to everybody in the world that they can come and live in your country.

Why not?
583  Other / Off-topic / Re: Dinosaur didn't die 65 millions years ago, they are still alive today on: January 04, 2014, 10:36:07 PM
my favorite christian argument against evolution is "if i evolved from a monkey, why doesn't a monkey turn into human right now?"

sometimes, i think those people are going backward on the evolution scale.. they just don't know it, especially since they don't even understand it.

You cannot argue rationally with a person who attained their beliefs in an irrational manner.  Such is the danger of propaganda.
584  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How much external immigration do you want in your country? on: January 04, 2014, 09:55:33 PM
1. Any, what an amazing thing that would be.
2. Venus, or perhaps some distant planet I've never even heard of before.
3. If they could find their way here, they'd probably be smarter than any of us.
4. Anyone but those goddamned martians.
5. They can do whatever they want in D.C. for all I care.
585  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk.org = Bitcoin version of Alibaba on: January 04, 2014, 09:36:48 PM

I guess its how i was raised. If there is a problem, find a solution.


In what manner does a ban solve the problem of naivety?
586  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll: Political Affiliation of Bitcoiners on: January 04, 2014, 09:28:59 PM
The poll could have been a bit more refined. We all know that the vast majority of the Bitcoiners are libertarians. So dividing Libertarians further would have been a good idea. Some new options could have been added, such as Anarcho-Libertarians.  Grin

The refining quality wouldn't be in loosening the libertarian option, but tightening the authoritarian one.  Enough with these silly dichotomies.
587  Other / Off-topic / Re: We must abandon money to attain world peace on: January 04, 2014, 09:11:54 PM
This would be akin to abandoning a high temperature to cure the flu; ditching money without solving the issue of violent greed has been tried before, it doesn't work out well.  Rather, if money is truly a symptom of a violent society, then it will naturally go away once the cause is taken care of: since money is still around, and violent societies still occur without money, it is hard to say that abandoning money will actually be of any benefit, or if it's either a cause or symptom relating to holding back world peace.  This is a question that can only be answered after the fact, as I do not know what happens in a society based upon voluntary cooperation (excepting the spanish anarchists of course, who were communist.)
588  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk.org = Bitcoin version of Alibaba on: January 04, 2014, 08:52:03 PM
If people choose to interact with known scammers, they deserve to be scammed.  Who are you to tell them what they should and shouldn't do?  Let stupid be stupid.
589  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoiner Personality - MBTI/Keirsey Poll on: January 04, 2014, 07:25:51 PM
I dont belive the personality changes a lot, you might think so, but just some mask or pretending...

you have to answer the questions honestly and subjectively. If you are dealing with people in a day to day basis (as a teacher or HR or PR person) you get use to it, and might even score as an extrovert, even when you are introverted. Just figure out every questions, if you are replying honestly and if it is really YOU that is replying and not the MASK person you might (have to?) put on at work, for your children, wife, friend, spouse etc. mistress.

you personality really doesnt change that lot, if yes, you are either psychopath or the above mentioned applies to you.

The tests are kinda bogus anyway; the ultimate deciding force between two polar opposite people is a simple question of whether you like to keep your options open or prefer to stick with a plan, or whether your room is clean or messy, which anyone could potentially be either or.  The best approach is to understand all 8 cognitive functions and figure out where they really sit in your stack; I went months at a time thinking I was someone I wasn't Tongue
590  Economy / Economics / Re: Paul Grignon Just made Bitcoin killer on: January 04, 2014, 01:18:47 AM
I don't trust anyone who turns off ratings and comments; the only people who do this realize they'd be negatively impacted if they turned them on.
591  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "BTC Is backed by nothing while the USD is backed by 'full faith' of US gov't" on: January 02, 2014, 08:37:17 PM
It always bugs me when someone tries to say that money is backed by something besides confidence.  It's a simple test:

Money in which everyone has confidence: the most powerful money in the world.
Money in which nobody has confidence: worthless.

A backing that is not itself confidence is just an extraneous layer of confidence, typically used to hide the shakiness of the underlying true money (i.e. fancy paper.)  Bitcoin doesn't need to be backed by math or trust in cryptography or computers, for it is these qualities of the money which give people confidence in Bitcoin; Bitcoin isn't backed by these qualities, it is backed by people who are confident in these qualities, among other qualities of Bitcoin.

With that said, it's semi-accurate to say that BTC is backed by nothing; because we only experience this world through one set of eyes, a person who does not exercise his intuition will be quick to say that BTC is, in fact, backed by nothing, because he has no confidence in BTC; clearly there are people who do have this confidence, but this does not affect the person who exists in a vacuum of himself or those who will confirm his bias.  Likewise, because said person cannot acknowledge what gives money backing, he misattributes his confidence in a currency as backing from Go--I mean, the state.  If the state says "it's good money", their worshiper will reflect this; whether or not it's true holds no relevance.

As another member said, it's not something taught in schools, so it's not surprise that people would say such a thing; but the argument that people are intentionally being kept in the dark is another matter.
592  Other / Politics & Society / Re: P2P Communism on: January 02, 2014, 07:59:20 PM
I guess what you mean by communism is the fantasy that has yet to exist, despite concerted efforts by many well-planed and influential individuals and states.
We should not ignore the fact that in communism, you must have central control, or you cannot enforce it, and it becomes another system altogether, and rather quickly at that.

Just think about it, what if you were given a computer today, along with everyone else and told you had to mine doge into a specified account, but that doge would be used for public works. Would you mine doge? Or would you then mine something you could keep and resell for something else?

 The system fails because you would have to have tighter and tighter restrictions with brute force to keep people mining the doge in the way demanded. Almost instantly you are at a choice of totalitarianism or some other system like capitalism, and the hope of communism fails immediately.

Communism has been sought in many different ways, not just the Marxist-ish ways "sought" by states of the 1900's (what kind of state seeks to eliminate itself?); just as we shouldn't think of "destruction and chaos" when we think of anarchism, we shouldn't think of "fascism in a fancy hat" when we think of communism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0XhRnJz8fU

If one of the points of communism is a stateless society, the last thing you'd want to do is increase the powers of the state to god status; if one of the points to better health is a balanced diet, the last thing you'd want to do is increase your McDonald's Double Quarter Pounder intake to every meal and snack.  It's something that only makes sense to a rational people, which is one of the, perhaps unlisted, requirements of communism: if a person doesn't know how to get along even with the state, they certainly won't function without it, and the idea that an ideal society can be achieved by having the "right guy in charge" is as absurd then as it is now in corporate crony "capitalist" America.
593  Other / Meta / Re: Petition freeze avatars indefinitely on: January 02, 2014, 06:25:16 AM
I'm waiting on my hands for this new forum software Grin  Any second now.
594  Other / Meta / Re: Dear Altcointalk... on: January 02, 2014, 01:16:27 AM
Clearly this site is biased; who knew?
595  Other / Politics & Society / Re: P2P Communism on: January 01, 2014, 04:59:28 PM
Communism itself is a failed ideoogy. And he now launches the P2P communism. The trouble with communism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

I thought communism was moneyless Tongue  That sounds like socialism what you're referring to.
596  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello, I'm a noob. on: January 01, 2014, 12:52:31 AM
Until a week ago I had only heard of Bitcoin. Now that I'm in it, man I've been missing out. This week has been incredibly fun haha

That's how I felt when I first learned about it Grin  Doesn't happen very often that a truly revolutionary technology is born.
597  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Idiocy on: January 01, 2014, 12:50:56 AM
You can blame schools teaching only the economics the government wants people to believe in for that one which is "printing money fixes the economy and boosts confidence in the markets" seriously, that's what I remember from reading up on the Weimar Republic in history.

You should read about all the same BS stunts that they pulled in ancient Rome. And nearly everywhere else, ever since. Pretty much the same stupid mistakes, continuously.

I'm happy we live in a world where we can easily get such information; if it's true what is said, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it," then it seems the one thing we've been missing is a consistent and universal record of the past and present available to all people, so much so that "I didn't know" is no longer a valid excuse.
598  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello, I'm a noob. on: January 01, 2014, 12:31:46 AM
I remember when I was a noob.  It was awful!
599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What the Heck on: December 31, 2013, 10:35:02 AM
I know one of them is both having a giveaway and posting their addy in every other giveaway.  Coins just going in circles I guess.
600  Other / Off-topic / Re: GIF works...YAYY!! Post your fav. GIF here on: December 31, 2013, 03:12:25 AM
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