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861  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will bitcoin = public sector workers rioting?? on: November 28, 2013, 08:34:40 PM
If people evade taxes with crypto-currencies, states will tax first and foremost real estate. You have to live somewhere you know.

For me, this is the correct way for a government to collect taxes. All taxes should be based on land. Governments own land, they don't own people.

Why should someone that moved to another country, pay taxes to the USA just because they were born there?

It's harder to hide the truth that way Tongue  Not that it matters now, what with the truth being so readily available.
862  Other / Off-topic / Re: what are you grateful for? on: November 28, 2013, 08:32:06 PM
The internet.  I'd be a lot dumber without it.
863  Economy / Speculation / Re: Everything you need to know about Bitcoin going to the Moon, and WHY... in 6:14 on: November 28, 2013, 08:00:44 PM
That's cool, except this isn't some Kumbaya community. Most people will eat your liver before taking all your money, regardless of the future of bitcoin. Just sayin'.

This usually comes along with, "Excluding me of course--I'd never eat your liver", followed sometime later in a dystopian wasteland by, "I'm starving and I'm going to eat your liver."  Tongue
864  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is programmed to break the law on: November 28, 2013, 07:53:24 PM
This is gonna bother me forever:

Bitcoin cannot break the law because it is not a person.  You cannot get Bitcoin to follow the law; in a sense, it is the law over the software it dictates, but itself is inhuman and cannot be coerced or persuaded in any way.
865  Other / Off-topic / Re: White people on: November 28, 2013, 06:26:54 PM
wow

such move

very dance
866  Other / Off-topic / Re: Another nail in the paypal coffin!! awesome on: November 28, 2013, 05:57:05 PM
Being a bitch of the state is eventually going to spoil their business.  They'll either have to lobby to make bitcoin an even more expensive alternative to PayPal for businesses (through needless regulation of course), or loosen up on their highly restrictive policies of trading.

Who knew impeding trade was bad for business!
867  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-27 NYTIMES: A Prediction: Bitcoin Is Doomed to Fail on: November 27, 2013, 06:28:12 PM
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monetary relations are too closely interwoven with other economic, political and social relations to be managed well by any institution with less sway than a government

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if bitcoin ever really started to take off, governments would either ban it or take over the system

Every day I believe more and more strongly that it takes very little effort to be a journalist.
868  Economy / Economics / Re: How to fix bitcoin on: November 27, 2013, 05:50:04 PM
I think you're getting hung up on the word "encourage" perhaps facilitate would be better?  Basically when creating a new currency, our goal should be to create an environment where economic growth can thrive.  A deflationary currency where people fear spending it does NOT facilitate growth.

Nobody fears spending; people fear spending irrationally.

When these new coins are unleashed onto the economy, how are they distributed?  If they're distributed evenly, the only way I can see it working fairly, then people are being fooled into believing they have more wealth than they really do, which would stimulate the economy but artificially, the "boom" as they say; once it is realized that this wealth didn't actually exist, you then have a "bust".  Is there any real reason people need to spend their hard-earned cash on things that don't matter?  For nobody saves to starvation; people have wants and needs, and when these wants and needs are met, coupled with an ever increasing population, you get economic growth.  I don't believe it's moral to artificially inflate a person's wealth to get them to give it up; it's trickery, to sum it up, and its only good (relatively speaking) in the event of an empire.

As I said, you're trying to solve a problem that isn't there; instead of putting a band-aid on the problem in the form of inflating/deflating the currency supply, why not solve the root of the problem by removing that which is harming the economy to begin with?  For if an economy is healthy, it wouldn't need any help, correct?
869  Other / Meta / Re: Trust System on this Forum on: November 27, 2013, 05:07:26 PM
This site is run by scammers and they promote selling accounts.  You cannot trust anything here and don't trust any of the ads, you have to look into everything yourself.

The horror of knowledge Sad
870  Economy / Economics / Re: How to fix bitcoin on: November 27, 2013, 05:06:51 PM
Why do we need to "encourage economic growth"?  Are people not naturally inclined to growth?  Do we also need to encourage the seasons to change?
871  Economy / Economics / Re: How to fix bitcoin on: November 27, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
I think you're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.  Have you done any research on Freicoin?  I'll never use it but if you'd like a money that leaks, it's a sure bet.
872  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Have you made the switch yet? on: November 27, 2013, 03:11:20 PM
Once preev.com can convert to mBTC, I'll give it a whirl.
873  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you all want to take away money from the government? Who will then build on: November 27, 2013, 02:38:38 PM
I was at a dysfunctional stoplight today, and I think it was a perfect example for my point with social order.

The lady next to me stopped before the intersection, waited for one group of cars from the other lane to move past the light, and proceeded to move before her turn. In this instance, she didn't play by the rules that everyone else did.. and you know what? She was rewarded for it, by saving time.

Anarchists believe government is to blame for everything, and in this case.. government is the car (a vessel for social order). But you know what? The problem was not the car, but the human being behind it. A common response I'd probably get to that is "well, if she didn't have the car, there wouldn't have been a problem. Anarchists always point to the variable, the car (government) and not the human being (the constant) behind it. If you were waiting in line at disneyland, would you say "if the person didn't have legs, there would be no cutting in line"?

Everyone had their own car, and this one person made a decision that only effected herself (and of course, the people she could've put in danger.)  In the way government is setup now, only a handful of people have cars, which everyone else must drive in.  If your political leader (i.e. driver) decides to do something dangerous like skip their turn for a small gain, all the other passengers in other vehicles say, "Those fucking (your nation here) almost got us killed!  I hate these guys!"  You didn't have anything to do with it, but you're still to blame.

Anarchists don't have a problem with cars, they have a problem with who gets to drive, and for whom those people drive for.  The anarchist wants to equip everyone with a car just for themselves, and the people they take care of i.e. family and such who cannot yet drive.  They don't blame cars; they blame the people who use violence to prevent everyone else from having one.
874  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoiner Personality - MBTI/Keirsey Poll on: November 27, 2013, 03:47:44 AM
snip

How old are you at this moment?  I ask because people can act wildly different while their minds are still maturing, so if you were taking these tests in your teenage years, it's no surprise that the results were flaky; I was far different in HS than I am now, though I can't say if I would've gotten different results since I didn't know about it until recently.  You don't begin activating all of your cognitive functions until ~25-30 years of age I think...

i think i was an INTJ in college.. i have taken a few tests in the past few years and i've consistently scored as an INTP, if that means anything.

That's interesting; consider your cognitive functions:

INTP
Leading   Introverted Thinking   Analyzing, categorizing, and evaluating according to principles
Supporting   Extraverted iNtuiting   Interpreting situations and relationships and pickup meanings and interconnections to other contexts
Relief   Introverted Sensing   Reviewing and recalling past experiences and seeking detailed data
Aspirational   Extraverted Feeling   Connecting and considering others and the group

These are flipped in the INTJ:

Leading   Introverted iNtuiting   Foreseeing implications, transformations, and likely effects
Supporting   Extraverted Thinking   Segmenting, organizing for efficiency, and systematizing
Relief   Introverted Feeling   Valuing and considering importance, beliefs, and worth
Aspirational   Extraverted Sensing   Experiencing and acting in the immediate context.

It's entirely possible to mistype of course; I thought I was an INTP for a while, while I was in college, but now that I've been away from studying and learning (at least not for pleasure), I've come much closer to an INFP, which makes more sense to me; I'm extremely interested in people (as you can tell with my interest in the MBTI Tongue), I'm an avid fiction writer, I have a huge interest in ethical philosophies and understanding myself and my own values...and of course, I'm very sensitive, which many personalities are (INTJ seems to be the least emotional of them all), but INFP seems to take the cake with vulnerability.
875  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoiner Personality - MBTI/Keirsey Poll on: November 27, 2013, 03:29:33 AM
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How old are you at this moment?  I ask because people can act wildly different while their minds are still maturing, so if you were taking these tests in your teenage years, it's no surprise that the results were flaky; I was far different in HS than I am now, though I can't say if I would've gotten different results since I didn't know about it until recently.  You don't begin activating all of your cognitive functions until ~25-30 years of age I think...
876  Economy / Economics / Objective Value on: November 27, 2013, 03:14:21 AM
Is it possible for value to be objective?  This is the one thing I can't seem to grasp about the RBE.  I'm inclined to believe that value is relative to the human condition and cannot be objectively defined without resorting to a personal interpretation, much like morality cannot be proven to be correct or false as it is entirely dependent on the individual (or an individual in some cases, i.e. God) to define what it is; as objectivity requires an observable truth, and nobody can agree what a pencil is worth without comparing it to something else which the person believes is valuable, how do we arrive at a value which is not dictated by the whims of human beings?
877  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoiner Personality - MBTI/Keirsey Poll on: November 27, 2013, 02:41:18 AM
You know these personality tests are all a lie right? None of them are true, all of the results are generic results that can match any individual. Try it, read your own personality's description then read another. It works if you really believe that this new personality type was tailored for you. They did an experiment on it, people were given a personlity test, everyone gave out different answers but everyone received the same type and result, everyone thought it was true and it was specific for themselves but in reality everyone got the same thing.

Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect

I've read other type descriptions. They seem mostly wrong.

Yes; to assert that the ESTJ is anything like me:



...is to assert lies.

Compare this to my personality:



These are completely contradictory.  Certainly I can perform with qualities of my opposite...I just don't do them nearly as well as the people who I know have that personality type, nor can they do what I do very well at all, for if they could: why don't they?
878  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The official "what about the roads?" thread on: November 26, 2013, 10:25:51 PM

Interesting!  A shame they didn't collaborate to ensure the roads would make sense but at least they've proven that roads are built without a central authority.  I wonder if our improved communications will make this a much easier task...
879  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The official "what about the roads?" thread on: November 26, 2013, 09:18:09 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Your ideal society exclusively involves people who cannot reach agreements.

Quote from: Lao Tzu
“Knowing others is wisdom; Knowing the self is enlightenment; Mastering others requires force; Mastering the self needs strength”
880  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Peter Schiff vs. Stefan Molyneux - Gold v. Bitcoin Debate (video) on: November 26, 2013, 07:56:07 AM
I didn't enjoy this one.  Peter hasn't done any research about bitcoin and admits he's "not a computer guy", so of course he's biased toward gold (aside from owning it.)

And of course, he wanted to be the one with the biggest opinion regardless Tongue
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