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1101  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do you guys like to earn your BTC? on: November 08, 2013, 07:21:01 PM
I get mine through painting Smiley
1102  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How could governments really "regulate" bitcoin? on: November 08, 2013, 08:06:59 AM
Governments regulate nothing but people; reason being, nothing responds to rules or the promise of violence like people do.
1103  Other / Meta / Re: I wish this site was better organized on: November 08, 2013, 07:39:23 AM
see that's where I fucked up I was thinking I could get more bitcoin that way.  but can you blame me for getting excited?  cloudhashing is a scam because they claimed right on their home page in really big letters that you could get more bitcoins through them than you could get by buying them directly.  I just checked the page again and it looks like they took down that claim.

The first thing Bitcoin will teach you is this: trust nobody.
1104  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Opinion on the US on: November 08, 2013, 03:58:13 AM
You walk into a small room. On your left is a Beretta 92FS, on your right is a Glock 17. Both excellent weapons, with slightly different characteristics, but the same overall performance. You then choose one of them, point it at your head and pull the trigger.

Which is the lesser evil?

This is hilarious Cheesy  But that effectively sums it up; option 3, being the refusal of self-destruction, will never be found on a ballot.

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If man is incapable of governing himself, man is incapable of governing others.  Ergo, either anarchism is possible or we are ruled not by mortal men.

I really like this. Is that original?

I'm glad you like it; it's one of mine Grin  The logic is sound to me now, though it wasn't perhaps a year ago, before I'd begun to really explore philosophy; it reminds me of a quote by Aristotle, "I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law."  He's not my most favorite philosopher, but I believe he makes a valid point: the law doesn't make sense to a person who is unaware of why the law is there to begin with, and so either the unknowing individual should be educated on such matters (schools conveniently leave out philosophy from the core curriculum, so I've noticed), or the individual must be threatened into following the law, but if it's the latter case, why bother with law at all?--it leaves the person out of the function of law-making, which effectively cuts society in two, creating the disparity between the rulers and the ruled.  It delves into this form of lawlessness that we're all too familiar with, the kind Hitler and the Kim Jong lineage have showed us, where the law is so supreme and sacred that it melts away into the tiny portion of people who create it and thus, no longer represents any form of the philosophy, just the passing whims of whichever dictator is in charge at the time.

Anyhow, the way I see it, if one man is intelligent enough to pass law, and most of us are beyond the idea that some men are gods, it should reflect that we're all capable of following and acknowledging commonly agreed upon laws without need for a supreme being to guide us, and yet we're still here, still following man-gods out of fear of the unknown, as though we've made no improvements since ancient Egypt.  Strange times.
1105  Other / Meta / Re: theymos please fix the avatars! on: November 08, 2013, 12:36:03 AM
They've been disabled since the hack; I believe they're still disabled primarily for security reasons.  Would like to change mine now, I've never gone this long without an avatar change Shocked
1106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Opinion on the US on: November 08, 2013, 12:23:18 AM
a lot of good people living under a dangerous government. The world would be a lot better place if the US government didn't exist.

The same tune has been sung for every empire in history Tongue  If it's not the US, it's somebody else.
What I see as different (the only "American Exceptionalism" that I subscribe to) is that past empires didn't hide that they were empires. Most embraced it as a righteous cause (it's not, but that's not the point), and even those that didn't, didn't pretend to be something else.

The United States of America, LLC. pretends that it isn't an empire. Even teaches it in schools to the point that the youth buy it, often for a lifetime.

Yet every action they take is aimed at expanding both territorially and legally into the lives of everyone. They even use the language of empire, such as "nation building" and "expanding our influence" and similar things, but haven't the courage to admit what they are. Or rather, they are more into lying than telling the truth. I'm not sure which it is, but I suspect the latter. In my time in american politics, I found that most politicians would prefer a stolen dime to an honestly gained dollar.

That's a good point you're making; I didn't learn that America was an empire (nor was I really aware of what empires were at the time) until I'd gotten into my college U.S. Government course, where my professor keyed me in on the fact.  I believe this is intentional; as the methods of ruling become even more deceptive, I'm finding that the reasons why the state must own the schools is specifically to instill this modified version of history; it's best when your cattle are unaware of their ultimate demise, especially when they're so intelligent otherwise and about other things, otherwise they might get to thinking (as folks like you and I have taken to) that their owners don't have their best intentions in mind; ignorance is strength, and there's no force greater than an angry, unknowing nation of 300 million finding anything at all to put their blame into, anything at all but the source of their anger; they're designed not to figure it out, and it so far has been a success.
1107  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: November 08, 2013, 12:03:25 AM
Call it what you may, dear.

You're pathetic.
1108  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: November 07, 2013, 11:39:13 PM
Looks like Satan fooled you.... he got you real good, didn't he?


I'm afraid I only respond to calls to reason.
1109  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: November 07, 2013, 11:33:51 PM


It's worth pointing out that this is about the ratio between people who have killed in God's name and people who have killed in Satan's name.
1110  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Isn't bitcoin worth nearly $300 per coin? on: November 07, 2013, 09:21:35 PM
You must either trade fiat for them or work for them; it is money.
1111  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Isn't bitcoin worth nearly $300 per coin? on: November 07, 2013, 09:02:11 PM
So you can't just sell the amount you have. You have to have enough to put it up for selling in the trade I guess.

Why wouldn't you be able to sell what you have?
1112  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Opinion on the US on: November 07, 2013, 06:56:02 PM
a lot of good people living under a dangerous government. The world would be a lot better place if the US government didn't exist.

The same tune has been sung for every empire in history Tongue  If it's not the US, it's somebody else.
1113  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What if Governments seen that BTC could jeopardize for their economy? on: November 07, 2013, 06:36:31 PM
When government gets in the way of progress, side with progress.
1114  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-07 CoinDesk: Hackers steal $1.2m of bitcoins from Inputs.io on: November 07, 2013, 06:15:18 PM
Web wallets is EVIL

Do you know the best way to store you're wallet offline?  Still pretty new to this and have my stuff online.  Based on what i've been reading, and since it is so profitable for someone to find ways to hack online wallets, i want to be safe in knowing I can't be hacked!

Armory is the best, but if you're looking for something lightweight, you could spring for electrum.
1115  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Guy Fawkes on: November 07, 2013, 05:38:31 PM
Even the history recorded in yesterdays newspapers was overwhelmingly distorted, do you think that in the 400 years since the Gunpowder Plot, that there could have been distortion of Guy Fawkes intentions?

I read about this on zerohedge, apparently the monarchy from Elizabeth 1st through to James 1st, who was the reigning monarch at the time of The Plot, were spending and borrowing much faster than they could collect tax. There were taxes on beards, windows, incorrect clothing etc. Seems possible that your average English revolutionary might have had some legitimate political complaints besides the protestant/catholic thing.

Then there's the whole "Guy Fawkes was Italian" thing, as if that being true would lend support to the idea of it being a Catholics vs Protestants situation.

Another thing that stands out is the traditions that came out of it: one was burning effigies of Guy Fawkes on November the 5th. I wonder who started that tradition up.

The other tradition is the "Remember, remember..." childrens rhyme. That's more ambiguous in it's possible intent and origins, but maybe that's the point. It tells the listener both to remember, and never to forget. But it doesn't explain why. I don't know if there are some other lines to the rhyme that do explain, but it seems unlikely that any such lines explain the reason unambiguously, as the writer claims to "know of no reason why" in the second line. So maybe the point of it to communicate the idea that there is some secret or controversy surrounding the reason to remember.

You bring up a good point; history is written by the victors.  The scenario presented is very common throughout history; when an empire needs a massive military to conquer other nations, they borrow far more than they could ever hope to pay back, tax with the only hopes of paying off the interest, and devalue their issued currency for a transfer of wealth from the users to the state; this is certainly not going unnoticed today, even with the intentionally complex system, and I have no doubt this wasn't nearly as hidden in his day; then again, there was no need to, since the people of this time period were, on average, very simple.  However, Fawkes's intentions, even if the history is fabricated to some degree, are clear; even if he wasn't intending to restore a monarch, if it's true that he was intending to kill one, he would still not be accomplishing anything great, since a new monarch was bound to have taken the throne anyway; once a state is deeply ingrained into the minds of its people, it's fruitless to attempt to root it out through killing the figurehead; they just seek another monarch who will, especially after the point of no return, continue the last monarch's plot.

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Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot...

It seems as though it's a warning to rulers who perform poorly that nobody forgets what could happen; reminds me of this quote:

"I don't think we should be governing ourselves. What need is a king, and every now and then if the king’s not doing a good job, we kill him." -- George Carlin
1116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2013-11-6 CoinText.com/Another Bitcointalk.org Scam Falls Apart on: November 07, 2013, 06:27:47 AM
Bitcointalk.org is a trap to new users and is designed to defraud them.

That's quite the accusation; can you present evidence of this website or its owners actively defrauding its users?
1117  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: November 07, 2013, 02:45:08 AM
Reading dank's posting history is a trip; he starts off completely normal, then somewhere just totally shifts personalities.
1118  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Artist on: November 07, 2013, 01:23:20 AM
Cheers Mike. I saw your work about an hour ago just before I whipped up this weird-ass banner. You have some cool stuff. Cya around.

Glad you think so; PM me if you ever need guidance Smiley
1119  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Artist on: November 07, 2013, 01:13:40 AM
Good luck out there Tongue
1120  Other / Politics & Society / Guy Fawkes on: November 06, 2013, 09:22:07 PM
Quote from: Wikipedia
Wintour introduced Fawkes to Robert Catesby, who planned to assassinate King James I and restore a Catholic monarch to the throne.  The plotters secured the lease to an undercroft beneath the House of Lords, and Fawkes was placed in charge of the gunpowder they stockpiled there. Prompted by the receipt of an anonymous letter, the authorities searched Westminster Palace during the early hours of 5 November, and found Fawkes guarding the explosives. Over the next few days, he was questioned and tortured, and eventually he broke. Immediately before his execution on 31 January, Fawkes jumped from the scaffold where he was to be hanged and broke his neck, thus avoiding the agony of the mutilation that followed.

In other words, Fawkes did not represent anarchy, he represented terrorism; thoughts?
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