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1721  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Wrong signature on Electrum on: December 06, 2019, 02:48:22 PM
It might be a copy-paste issue.If you have created the message  by some text redactor like WORD and transfer in to Electrum via copy-paste then It might be messed with reserved character. Try to put you message into Electrum by using keyboard.

this can not be a copy paste error!
as i said above your comment, the only problem here is in his signature byte length is invalid. and since the signature string is in base64 it could not have happened by accident. since accidental modification of base64 will most probably lead to invalid encoding!
1722  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Wrong signature on Electrum on: December 06, 2019, 02:23:50 PM
3. the signature I get: IFkS40AxIuRGDN/vnjwavfV6R00h3MKArtDB7tpBbnqIMc6WSGIQm/wm4lN7JVbY6jbeMf27x8VOqI6azgwz2Q==

your signature length is invalid, it should have been 65 bytes but what you posted here is only 64 bytes which means it is missing 1 byte.

this should not have happened, i can't see any bugs that could lead to this either. are you sure that you have not modified the signature yourself?
1723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Does signing message leak private key? on: December 05, 2019, 05:11:30 PM
that case is not related to your concern. it is a bad implementation of ECDSA that affected normal wallets and HD wallets alike.

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I am concerned if i sign a same message from 2 different address (that are generated from same seed) then how to be sure same 'k' value isn't used? There is a possibility for someone to recover private key from both the signatures right that sign the same message?
if the wallet you were using had a terrible code then it could happen but you mentioned Electrum. this wallet is a good one and the code is solid. it is using a method for generating the random k value known as RFC-6979, it deterministically creates the digital signature so the RNG problems don't exist here at all.

here is some references you can read:
RFC doc: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6979
electrum source code: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/428b63822b359d56d6ececabf406a43589545d24/electrum/ecc.py#L417
the library it calls: https://github.com/warner/python-ecdsa/blob/aea736c610752bf1478febfd15b11c711debcf61/src/ecdsa/keys.py#L1022-L1055
there is also libsec256k1 which electrum uses but i couldn't find the code there. you can look into that too.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6979
1724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Does signing message leak private key? on: December 05, 2019, 04:52:17 PM
That means all the address are somehow connected.
no it doesn't mean that. it means your keys were created pseudo randomly from a random entropy instead of each from a different random entropy. the end result (the keys) are still considered random and unrelated.

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So if i sign a message say "This is to be signed" with Address 1 and sign the same message "This is to be signed" with Address 2 in electrum wallet and post both the signature online. Then will someone be able to recover my private key of any of the address?
to put it simply, if it were possible to find your private key from a signature like what you explained then nobody could ever use an HD wallet because the signature you create for a message is using the same algorithm as the signature you create for a transaction.
1725  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Virtual wallet: what is it? on: December 05, 2019, 12:31:50 PM
In some cases, using an online wallet can be an advantage for beginners, it's much easier to download a fake desktop wallet than to make a fake online wallet. Of course, there is always the possibility of phishing, but that is why you should be well informed about the best possible security practices before you enter the world of cryptocurrencies.

a user that has trouble finding the real website of a desktop wallet to download an installer that requires one click to install (through a wizard that only has next!) will also have trouble finding the real website of a web wallet and will lose his private keys in the same fashion.
i think a better advice to these types of user is to stay away from cryptocurrencies until they can learn the basics of security while using a computer and surfing the web!
1726  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: virust total analisys DANGER [blockchain.com] on: December 05, 2019, 12:14:25 PM
the URL you tested seems to be the correct (real) URL that leads to the real blockchain.com website as far as i can tell so the only possible case is that this particular detector (CLEAN MX) is giving you a false positive.

ps: you should really start using a desktop wallet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1631151.0
1727  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There are a lot of rumors about the Chinese market recently.What is truth??? on: December 05, 2019, 11:04:46 AM
i haven't seen anything recent, they belong to at least a couple of months ago and none of them are anything new. they are repetition of the same FUD that has been around for as old as 2012 where they either fully lie or exaggerate what the Chinese government is doing with their regulations.
not to mention that the news most of the times has nothing to do with the government, it is some statement from some random person the news sites are turning into official news.
1728  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Now we know the truth about crypto exchange fees! on: December 05, 2019, 10:19:37 AM
It looks like this widget would save our day! You know why? It's because it really solves the problem about the true fees of any crypto exchange that are currently live and working.

and THAT is how scammers steal your secrets!
i don't know about this "widget" and i don't want to waste time on it but you should never install this type of things, specially when they are directly targeting something so sensitive as your exchange account that involves money.
you can find lots of stories about how people simply lost their private keys, login passwords, API keys,... just by being reckless about what they install.
1729  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wtf? All red on: December 05, 2019, 09:58:20 AM
i'm sorry but your expectations about the profit you can make from trading bitcoin has been unrealistic that is why you feel surprised right now that bitcoin isn't constantly going up!
the market is not supposed to be like that. there are times when it stops rising, there are times when it falls and times when it goes sideways. now it is sideways time. learn to move with the market...
1730  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Something Odd? Thinking caps on guys. on: December 04, 2019, 04:27:14 AM
The term "collision" is being used very loosely here...

as i said, it is a "partial collision" not a "collision". a partial collision is when only a smaller portion of the digests are equal. it is a topic that becomes important if you are using truncated hashes, like using SHA256 to hash but only using first 32 bits. and it seems to me that this is what OP is doing.
1731  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Something Odd? Thinking caps on guys. on: December 03, 2019, 05:22:48 PM
i honestly don't see anything strange going on here. you take an input, pass it though a pseudo random function and get a final result. then change that input, pass it through the same function and get a different result. then you repeat this final step a lot of times in a loop until you find a partial collision.
that is not strange, that is expected.
if you do this with any cryptography function you will find the same results; here is an example with MD5 (since it is a fast hash function!):
Code:
1st data: 9D27E7F051FE2A5054108C5277D33E95F93713FACE1287EF58C876FAC9F71DDC
2nd data: 27125476F051C952E7581DC82A3E958CF7FAFAEF13CEFE7750D31037879DF9DC

1st hash: DC33E57B0A1102F9E34220FF5CE0189B
2st hash: DCA941D7FF18B6C1CFEF5230C7738F40
here the 256 bit data is like the mnemonic you have and MD5 is like the same scrypt and hmac-sha that you have. i get the first data, shuffle the bytes around and hash it again.
the result hashes are also the same as the "addresses" or entropies you find.
you can see that the jumble of the "data" gives similar hashes. it took me a nanosecond to find this collision.

here is a bigger one that tool half a second:
Code:
1st data: 4143C76B1A8866283ED66BF5FFA8645B65732162E684E573363B2A15868E508B
2nd data: 662865E6FF36E53E3B8EC74321A8506B41626B5B64F5D62A73867384151A888B

1st hash: 4556FE9D3DD928AD6A7710054D51D595
2st hash: 4556FE2AEB7D1E3DFD479B20C405FFBC
1732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin reach $ 19k again before 2022? (poll inside) on: December 01, 2019, 03:35:35 PM
2022?!!! try first quarter of 2020 that would be an interesting question otherwise by 2022 you would look at $19k price the same way you are looking at $220 today. it would be just another tiny price that we shot past years ago that nobody even remembers...

so my answer is yes. and to expand, i believe by first quarter of 2020 (next year) we are going to see the rise happen and previous ATH to either be broken or be so close.
1733  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin Be the Saving Grace for Ailing Banks? on: December 01, 2019, 03:14:35 PM
it is like saying "is the steam engine a saving grace for horses and carts?" just like the way engine made horses obsolete, bitcoin (the decentralized money) is what could make banks obsolete. because when people use decentralized money, they no longer need that middle man aka banks anymore and they can do everything themselves in a much cheaper way and free of their corruption!
1734  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does crypto help to diversify your investment portfolio? on: December 01, 2019, 02:55:21 PM
that is the advice that i have been giving others and also following myself! in fact each time a newbie mentions "portfolio" and "diversification" while saying their portfolio only consists of bitcoin and two dozen altcoins i tell them they have NOT diversified at all. and real diversification is when you have traditional assets and then buy bitcoin alongside them to benefit from the huge profit that bitcoin gives you while still having one leg in the traditional market and enjoy the less risk that they give you.
and of course the main reason is that there isn't any correlation between bitcoin and any of the other markets whatsoever.
1735  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrumx - get balance of BECH32 addresses on: December 01, 2019, 02:48:31 PM
Just wonder what's wrong with ripemd160?

there is nothing wrong with it, it has no place here.
you only perform it on "public keys" after you performed SHA256 only when you want to get the "pubkey-hash" that you use inside the scripts.

then you hash the entire script using SHA256 so the complete thing looks like this:
Code:
SHA256(Script(RIPEMD160(SHA256(Pubkey))))
where "Script()" is the other OP codes you add such as 0x00, 0x76, 0x88,...

eg. P2WPKH:
Code:
SHA256(0x00 | 0x14 | RIPEMD160(SHA256(Pubkey)))

P2PKH:
Code:
SHA256(0x76 | 0xa9 | 0x14 | RIPEMD160(SHA256(Pubkey)) | 0x88 | 0xac)
1736  Economy / Speculation / Re: MasterLuc new long term prediction on: December 01, 2019, 02:22:14 AM
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2. As it dropped fast - as it should bounce fast to retest lost $6000 level and log trend at around 10000-20000. 2019-2020 AD.

The price doesn't seem to be eager to get back into the 10k-20k range. Especially the 20k looks now kinda untouchable, for 2019 at least.
Let's stay optimistic for 2020, with the halving. But then the less-than-a-year time span may not be enough for a drop back to 6k levels. Maybe 10k?

the big rise probably won't happen in the remaining only one month of this year but will happen in next year. it won't be only because of halving! it will be because it is time and it isn't going to be hard since as soon as price shows the slightest signs of rising and breaks any kind of resistance (specifically $10k) then the FOMO will kick in and we see repetition of all the previous FOMOs such as the one at $4k which ended up with shooting up 100% at first and the final 250% rise to $13k.
1737  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrumx - get balance of BECH32 addresses on: December 01, 2019, 02:11:26 AM
Hash = SHA256(HEX2BIN(Pubkeyhash)) = 4899cf970298cf69b162d33b16db0c917935d11ce5908d63c7fba1893b23b581
this should be:
Code:
SHA256(00201ffbb7eba8c08ccdd522ff79bc04e053d178992451c71020a6f8e831e359a9e4)
where 0x00 is OP_0, 0x20 is the size of the data (hash) to push and 1ff... to the end is the 32 byte hash.
and the result of this hash is
Code:
32afd5ba9b3dd392109682fb4f84ea5b32bc17f9dab5afca9d06b137b6dd8490

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No error message but something is wrong with the hashes I guess
it returns zero while this address for sure has some positive balance
there can't be any error messages because the server receives a hash which corresponds to an entirely different address which is not in its database so it simply returns zero balance.
1738  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin halving 2020 prediction on: November 30, 2019, 03:55:08 PM
An insider with his ear on the tracks, whispered to me this:
whoever claims to be an insider and then gives you suggestions about the market is a big scammer and you must stay away from these people Wink

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The next much anticipated halving event will be a dud. There will not be a parabolic push up in price. It will steadily move sideways in the 5,000 range with low volatilty. Baffling everyone and flattening peoples interest in bitcoin.
people's interest in bitcoin is not because of its shooting price. it is because of the strength and security that it has.
as for the rise, we will see another shoot up before the halving and it will most probably be big since there are a lot of new people with fresh money who are expecting the same exact thing as last 2 times to happen and will act on it which means a big price rise!

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Meanwhile people will start buying and trading alts again and stablecoins will see a significant rise in popularity especially with big corporations.
stablecoins will only gain popularity during the widespread shitcoin pumps where day traders need something they can dump their shitcoins to. and if bitcoin goes sideways and has such gigantic drop to $5k then shitcoins will have an extremely hard time getting any pumps.

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So much for making big gains from the next Bitcoin halving event. You are all shit out of luck?
my luck is in bitcoin staying below $10k or even less not in its price going up because the longer it stays here the more bitcoin i can accumulate with my paycheck which i use a portion of to buy bitcoin.
the only ones that would be shit out of luck are those who are bag holding altcoins thinking if bitcoin price doesn't rise then altcoins should Cheesy
1739  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Campaign Management Website for Bitcointalk Signature Campaigns (idea) on: November 30, 2019, 02:42:58 PM
it is a bad idea in my opinion because it centralizes things to "your website/service" alone whereas right now things are more decentralized than that and it is a good thing.
if you look around, there are multiple different individuals that handle escrow, campaign management, list of scammers and other banned users,... and all things are happening in a more transparent way. that eliminates a lot of abuse and possible problems.

centralizing it to one place means that if some day that one place had some problems (eg. the owner had an accident or maybe pulled a scammed and ran away) it will damage every single person that is participating in a campaign or the businesses that run it.
1740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Was Hal Finney the real Satoshi? on: November 30, 2019, 02:32:37 PM
I believe he may have sent the first Bitcoin transaction to himself.

specially because of this case, you can have solid proof that Hal Finney is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto. because it would be the weirdest thing to do at a time where there were others he could have send the bitcoin to if he were Satoshi and send it to himself!
when you want to show how the system works and get others involved you want to send coins to "OTHERS".

True, you need to evaluate the system by the other people. How will you sure that it really works if you will just try it with yourself. That's not the right thing to do when it comes to evaluation. They should allow other people to test it to say it's working.  Wink

it was more about the process being public between two person though. otherwise as a developer, you yourself always test your own system that you designed and created to see if it works fine before releasing it. but those tests are not something you release to public like this with another "person".
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