If I was a Christian, and used Jesus as an example of why we should be kind to people less fortunate to myself, do you really think I would be comparing myself to Jesus? Bad example. According to the bible, Jesus told us to be kind to others. Where do Mandela and King say, that you should stay in your country and hide from the government, like you do? You ask: Where would South Africa be if Mandela had just left and gone somewhere that didn't practice apartheid? Where would the US be if King had just left?
Therefor you say: "Where would my country(obviously not-USA) be, when I would leave it?" I think, it would do just fine. Staying in their country isn't the main thing, that defines this people. Where would Cuba be, if Che hasn't killed a lot of people? According to your logic, I should kill some people.
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Thanks for comparing yourself to Mandela and King.
Can you cite where I compared myself to Mandela and King? You seem to be struggling with basic semantics. Mentioning someone, is not comparing myself to someone. Sorry, I haven't read about you openly confronting US-government. I must have missed that in the news.
Why would I be confronting the US government? With the greatest of respect, you're a bit of a muppet. I see. You are one of this people, that don't even understand what they are self saying. You compare, your not leaving of the USA to Mandela's not leaving of South Africa or King's not leaving of the USA. Therefor you compare yourself to them. Is that really so hard to understand? Didn't you have any kind of education, where you learned that? Seriously? Do you really don't understand what the words mean, that you are writing?
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Why do you believe that I should accept the state's geographical dominion any more than I should accept any other injustice? Where would South Africa be if Mandela had just left and gone somewhere that didn't practice apartheid? Where would the US be if King had just left?
lol Thanks for comparing yourself to Mandela and King. That is exactly what I meant. Sorry, I haven't read about you openly confronting US-government. I must have missed that in the news. Hypocrite ...
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Please tell me more about these people, this set of rules, and what you think anarchism is and isn't.
Have you even read the thread you are posting in? As an anarchist I am 100% for blacklisting any nation-state government owned coins.
Starting with the wealth the FBI stole from all those innocent drug dealers on the Silk Road.
But I know, that you are asking this stupid question, because you know, you are one of this hypocrites I am talking about. How far are you, with revoking your citizenship and moving into the wilderness, where you don't have to pay for the streets you are using every day?
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What thread do you think this is, turvarya? Because clearly we're not reading and writing in the same. Who compares himself to Ghandi? Guru? I am not just referring to this thread, but many others, I have read since I am here. You may have noticed, that I am longer in this Forum than you Here an example of someone comparing themself to GhandiJust realized you get paid for every post that's not obvious bullcrap. Primedice should have you off the payroll though, because that post doesn't make any sense at all..
You also may have noticed, that I am not really writing that much. I am more reading and if you had read as much as I in this forum, you might realize that my post makes a lot of sense. I don't want to offend you, but keep your eyes open and think for yourself. Don't believe everything that is written in here.
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Reading in threads like that just makes it clearer for me: There are no good guys. There is no authority you should trust in, especially not people in this Forum. We have a lot of egomanic-cowards here, which compare themselves to Ghandi(Ghandi didn't hide from the government), but in reality just want to increase there own wealth and don't care about anybody else. We have people here, who calls themselves anarchists, but want there own set of rules, rules that benefits them. That's not anarchism. We have people here, who spread the same bullshit arguments over and over again, using the same words, but don't really answer you, when you challenge them: See here: A simple question that was never answeredThose people using the same methods politics and media uses: Repeat something often enough and people will start believing it. Please people, think for yourself. Bitcoin is a good thing, but that doesn't mean that everybody who associates himself with it, is a good person.
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In my opinion, there should never be a way to blacklist bitcoins. The whole idea of Bitcoins is, that nobody controlls them, because we don't trust governments, we don't trust Banks, we don't trust big corporations. Why should we trust any other authority(BTC-developer-Team)? People trusted MTGox, a nice Company, that played a big part in making BTC popular. We all know what happened. I can't think, of an example of a Person, that came to great power and didn't screw over a lot of People. Can anybody else?
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Wouldn't it be much easier to just have a link/file, that opens in your Wallet? Like a PDF that opens directly in Acrobat Reader.
I also think, there is already something like that.
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I first check with Overstock.com before and see if it has products I need to purchase there. Amazon may take a while to jump on the Bitcoin bandwagon and they are so big that bitcoin isn't of any consequence even if all of us contact them. I believe they will eventually integrate Bitcoin but in the meantime I want to support pioneers like Patrick Byrne who have taken a risk and now is even keeping 10% of all bitcoin sales in bitcoin which is amazing considering their margins.
Overstock.com sucks! 1)They take bitcoins only from USA. 2)Their support are not helpful nor interested in customers needs How do you check, if Bitcoins are from the USA?
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To society, is the freedom to drive worth the increased mortality?
Yes. Driving has a purpose. I hope you don't need me to explain it to you. It is obvious. The purpose of drinking is fun. The purpose of drunk driving is, you don't wanna spend money for a taxi or you don't like public transportation. That's just no good reason to allow it, when there is a high risk to it. Therefor it is forbidden. It is really simple.
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I meant just the fact of using drugs shouldn't be illegal. Obviously the caveat of as long as you're not harming anyone else applies here. I don't think alcohol should be illegal, but drink driving obviously should be and quite rightly is so.
What if a person is able to drive drunk without harming anyone? Should driving be illegal? Nah. If someone plants a bomb and it doesn't kill anyone then that doesn't mean they're not guilty of a crime. How is driving drunk analogous to planting a bomb where driving sober is not? Even when sober, it is possible to cause a fatal accident. Indeed, road accidents are a relatively common way of being killed. Could you clarify your position on the legality of driving sober? To return to my main point: What if I'm able to prove that I can drive sufficiently well while drunk? Perhaps I could elect to pass my driving test while drunk. It may be that, while drunk, I'm still safer on the road than many motorists. You drive worse, when you are drunk. That is a biological fact. You can't really argue about that. When a cop catches you drunk driving, you can't just say: "But I am driving drunk, for 20 years and never had an accident". That is not the point of this law. The point is, that when you drive drunk, there is a higher possibility that you have an accident. When a lot of people drive drunk, there will be more accidents, than when they are not. It is risk management. It also doesn't matter, that there are also car accidents with sober drivers. Most people believe, that bad things are not happening to them, until they do happen to them.
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When Amazon would start to accept Bitcoins, they would make an official announcement. They wouldn't write an E-Mail to just one customer.
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Everytime I read something like that, I am amazed that there are still People out there, who just execute any exe they find on the Internet. I mean seriously, how can you miss the Information that you just should not do that?
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I thought, we are talking about the FED here. The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve, and informally as the Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEDHe can't talk about governments in General in a concrete case. So, which "government was already up their ass"? The Japanese? So, the Japanese government has the MtGox Bitcoins? It is difficult to point to a person or a group. I think if you point to the BIS you are very close. you mean them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_for_International_SettlementsI haven't heard of them, yet. Might look into it.
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There are two possibilities:
One is that Karpeles was part of a government honeypot all along.
The other is that he was forced to. I'm sure they could have threatened him with all kinds of things. He was already being forced into regulations in early 2012 when mtgox started requiring gov IDs for fiat withdrawals. Then they had their dwolla account frozen. These events tell me the government was already up their ass and probably knew everything about their finances. Add to that the bullshit stories about where the coins went that don't add up and the fact that Karpeles is still roaming free, and you can easily deduce that the Feds have all the mtgox transaction records and all the coins in their possession.
Besides that he is in Japan. He is prosecuted by Japanese law. He's nationality is French. You US-Americans really think, you are the Center of the world ... He never talks about Americans. He is talking about government in general. I thought, we are talking about the FED here. The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve, and informally as the Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEDHe can't talk about governments in General in a concrete case. So, which "government was already up their ass"? The Japanese? So, the Japanese government has the MtGox Bitcoins?
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The Federal government has all the mtgox coins - be certain of that.
That's already my assumption. I think they did some blackmail on Karpeles to get his coins. They probably injected some childporn on his computer and said he probably did not want to get that fact public knowledge. There are two possibilities: One is that Karpeles was part of a government honeypot all along. The other is that he was forced to. I'm sure they could have threatened him with all kinds of things. He was already being forced into regulations in early 2012 when mtgox started requiring gov IDs for fiat withdrawals. Then they had their dwolla account frozen. These events tell me the government was already up their ass and probably knew everything about their finances. Add to that the bullshit stories about where the coins went that don't add up and the fact that Karpeles is still roaming free, and you can easily deduce that the Feds have all the mtgox transaction records and all the coins in their possession. Besides that he is in Japan. He is prosecuted by Japanese law. He's nationality is French. You US-Americans really think, you are the Center of the world ...
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Most of the time stopping cold turkey wont kill you and continuing to take the drugs is far more dangerous. And I smoked for about a year in high school and just decide to stop one day. It's not easy, but it really is just down to your own willpower. Same goes for any other drugs. People can do a lot of things if they only put their mind and willpower to it.
But most People are just not going to do that. When you really think about laws, you have to take in account, that they are for everyone, also the stupid ones and I don't even trust the average Person with this issue. If it is really no Problem at all to just legally try out some Heroin, we would have more drug addicts, which will never get away from their addiction, than any System(regardless which Country) can handle. We can't be responsible for the actions of others, nor does anybody have the right to tell an adult what he can and cannot put into his body. And making drugs illegal doesn't stop people from taking them, it just pushes their use underground and makes criminals out of the users and cartels and kingpins out of the suppliers. In a Society we are responsible for the Action of others. That's the Definition of a Society. The Actions of others influence us. I don't understand, why you suddenly turned to this Extrem-Anarcho-POV. Some post earlier, you did recognize laws. Alcohol can make you see other people as monsters and can also turn you into one. Logic should be used in most of these cases. You shouldn't smoke or drink whilst pregnant, and you shouldn’t do any other drugs either as they all harm your baby.
If you are addicted and realize you are pregnant, it is not like you can just stop taking drugs. That's the Definition of an addiction. I know that alcohol isn't as safe as most People think, but there are still a lot of worse stuff out there. All it ever takes is for an addict to just stop, and they're not just harming themselves anymore but another, and they should have help with that, and if they don't stop then that could be punishable by law. You're confusing yourself and not getting what I'm saying as these are not comparable at all. How can we be responsible for what other people choose to do? We can punish them if their actions effect others though, but that is their choice they made. I am not responsible for what you do and vice versa, but if either of us do something that harms or endangers others then we can be punished by law for that careless/reckless crime. We can prevent them from endangering others. Isn't it better to prevent a murder than punishing the murderer? I think, that's the whole Point of making drugs illegal. Sure, it isn't bad, if someone takes drugs once(in most cases), but if someone takes drugs regularly over a Long time, it is pretty likely that he will harm others on one way or another. The freedom of a Person today, shouldn't affect the safety and health of others tomorrow(same goes for laws to protect the envirement) Like I said at the beginning, I am all for some more legalization of drugs, but I don't want laws that say "Sure, take whatever you want, we don't care as Long as you don't harm others", that's not better than saying "Sure, you can buy weapons of mass destruction, but don't harm others"
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Most of the time stopping cold turkey wont kill you and continuing to take the drugs is far more dangerous. And I smoked for about a year in high school and just decide to stop one day. It's not easy, but it really is just down to your own willpower. Same goes for any other drugs. People can do a lot of things if they only put their mind and willpower to it.
If it is really no Problem at all to just legally try out some Heroin, we would have more drug addicts, which will never get away from their addiction, than any System(regardless which Country) can handle. except of course you're wrong and all the countries where it's legal to buy heroin have lower addiction rates than other countries. In which countries is it legal to buy heroin? Most of the time stopping cold turkey wont kill you and continuing to take the drugs is far more dangerous. And I smoked for about a year in high school and just decide to stop one day. It's not easy, but it really is just down to your own willpower. Same goes for any other drugs. People can do a lot of things if they only put their mind and willpower to it.
But most People are just not going to do that. When you really think about laws, you have to take in account, that they are for everyone, also the stupid ones and I don't even trust the average Person with this issue. If it is really no Problem at all to just legally try out some Heroin, we would have more drug addicts, which will never get away from their addiction, than any System(regardless which Country) can handle. We can't be responsible for the actions of others, nor does anybody have the right to tell an adult what he can and cannot put into his body. And making drugs illegal doesn't stop people from taking them, it just pushes their use underground and makes criminals out of the users and cartels and kingpins out of the suppliers. In a Society we are responsible for the Action of others. That's the Definition of a Society. The Actions of others influence us. I don't understand, why you suddenly turned to this Extrem-Anarcho-POV. Some post earlier, you did recognize laws. Alcohol can make you see other people as monsters and can also turn you into one. Logic should be used in most of these cases. You shouldn't smoke or drink whilst pregnant, and you shouldnt do any other drugs either as they all harm your baby.
If you are addicted and realize you are pregnant, it is not like you can just stop taking drugs. That's the Definition of an addiction. I know that alcohol isn't as safe as most People think, but there are still a lot of worse stuff out there. All it ever takes is for an addict to just stop, and they're not just harming themselves anymore but another, and they should have help with that, and if they don't stop then that could be punishable by law.
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How can you deal with money for so long and not know what fiat is? Fiat money's been around since 11 century China, Fiat-Chrysler the car (Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino) has been around for much less than that. Unless OP is trolling, then well played. Maybe he is 90 than he would be dealing with Money, way longer than other persons in this Forum But seriously: How Long I have dealt with anything, doesn't say much about my knowledge about anything. I am dealing withm companies(worked for them, buyed stuff from them) for many years, so I am an expert on companies.
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