Fair enough, nothing to see here...

http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-6.htm

I'm an agnostic, I just admire that the bible describes people like you thousands of years before you were born.

I was hoping that I could lead you to water, but apparently you won't have any of that. I asked you, "Why do you suppose they don't have a choice?"

The answer is because they don't have schools. Why don't they have schools? Because they haven't accumulated enough capital to afford the free time in order to pay people in a service industry. Why don't they have capital? Because they haven't worked enough to accumulate it.

So there you go. They're choosing to work so that one day they, or their children, might be able to afford to go to school, by interfering with people in third world countries working, you are literally interfering with their ability to accumulate capital, and therefore to ever be able to afford to go to school.

I know that's very abstract, that's how I tend to start out for some reason. Lets break this whole problem down to a relate-able issue.

Suppose that Armageddon happened tomorrow and nearly everyone on the planet vaporized because of aliens or whatever (I told you this was going to be relate-able). So you get up in the morning and presumably you're very good at whatever it is you do, but the bottom line is unless you're a farmer, those skills are useless.

You would want a tractor, you would want a mechanical auger, you would want an elaborate water transportation and irrigation system, but even if these things were given to you you're only well off until they broke down. How would you get the parts to keep it repaired? How would you get the gasoline? How would you get the tools to make the parts, or the tools to get the gasoline?

The bottom line is you're pretty much hosed because the problem of getting a tractor is only scratching the surface of your problems. The real problem is the entire infrastructure of the world you knew has been obliterated and you alone could not hope to build it from scratch in your lifetime.

So what do you do? You work your ass off. You plow by hand, you plant by hand, your life sucks. Maybe eventually your children or your neighbors start mining coal, the conditions are terrible, the work is hard, and their life sucks (But it's better than working on the farm!). Eventually down the line maybe, just maybe, if enough knowledge is accumulated and enough people can get together, the world as we know it could be built back up. You and everyone you know will likely work in terrible conditions day in and day out, and you will be afflicted by diseases and famine and have nowhere to turn to. No amount of petitioning, or bellyaching, or unionizing, or protesting will help because the resources simply aren't there.

That's pretty much what the third world is. In the third world the resources simply aren't there. There is an entire infrastructure of skills and capital that simply doesn't exist. You cannot just wish it away, you can't just send them tools, and you can't even just give people knowledge. That will help if it's done right, but the bottom line is working your way out of third world status is in the hands of the third world. If they're going to do it, it's going to be through long, tedious, and dangerous hard work though it won't be nearly as bad as it was for my ancestors, because we've already shown them how it's done.

We can help the third world in two ways that come to mind;
1.) Careful, moderate, individual charity that succeeds in its goals but avoids dependence.
2.) Free trade. Free trade of knowledge and free trade of capital.

Charity must be done by individuals because government charity is enormously wasteful, badly targeted, fails at its objectives, and creates dependence.

Free trade should be free trade absolutely. No currency games, no sanctions, and no strings. As long as everyone follows the Non-Aggression Principle everyone should be free to make arrangements with each-other that are mutually beneficial even if other people might find them offensive.

How fast can a third world country make it to first-world status if we even approach these conditions? Possibly 35 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Singapore

I know you will probably cry foul because Singapore is not an anarchist state, but crucially to succeed from an anarcho-capitalists perspective is to have economic freedom that approaches anarchy. You can tell that a society approaches anarchy when the regulations are almost nonexistent, and taxes are almost nonexistent.

The United States had these conditions until about the 1900's. Singapore, Hong Kong, the Dutch East India Company, Britain, and Rome all succeeded by adhering to these ideas. They all did or will fail as they succumb to socialism/statism.

Anarcho-Capitalism is not a all-or-nothing philosophy like Communism. The closer you get to achieving it, the more prosperous you become.

It's not about "being gentle", the only thing I'm objecting to right now is going on a repeated rant about how I'm just ignoring everything instead of doing any counterarguments to the things I did address.

@DumbFruit
Are you also one of this pedophiles, who think sex with minors is ok, when they "choose" to do it?
So, are also minor sexworkers, ok?
If not, what is the difference to "choosing" to work in a mine?

Why do you suppose they choose to work in mines rather than go to school?

Despite the total ridiculousness of that image, who benefited from the coal they produced? Did the rich people throw it all in a big pile in their backyard burn it and laugh while holding their fat bellies, and holding a cigar in their teeth, and a monocle in their eyes?
Did rich people perhaps figure out a way to eat it all with their caviar?

Also, if this is capitalism, then the children are better off working in the mines than otherwise. Why do you suppose children and adults choose to work in such conditions?

No? This is a more solid foundation?
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Humm I see , I now understand how it works , thanks mate

I'am also buying like every 15 days , but does that helps to inscrease the price ? and if we sell the price drop ? don't really know how it works tho

Eurozone have law since december 2013 to do this ... legally.

Eurozone have from decade, law to block and retrieve ticket (high speed by automated camera) from the bank account (cost of this for the client = 87 euros) without inform citizen from this if it is in vacancy (like 2 months).

Bitcoin ... can free people.
And that what it can append in short time, now.

A kid can go to the store and buy things without their parents coming along.

Bitcoins are just things you buy.

I've never meet a Bitcoiner in real life that was perfectly okay with paying taxes.

Yes, but the foreign country defines how it works in their own law, so it is legally defined somewhere.

(Again, not looking to debate if a country would make BTC its own currency, purely an example)

Yes. Bits are good... definitely
But if we shift to bits, how will altcoins like Dogecoin survive   ?
That will kill dogecoin for sure! That is so cruel, cos I also like dogecoin.

The reason he wants to switch to bits is because it allows us to drop the confusing decimal places.
example:
.000386 bitcoin - 386 bits

This simplifies things for the time being, and lets us use satoshis when we need to be even more specific
example: instead of .00038619 bitcoin it will be 386 bits and 19 satoshis (or sats)

This will help in the adoption of bitcoin as it has the same familiar layout that the USD has. Dollars and cents.

yes , gavin is right , if we want more ppl use bitcoin , the unit(1 bitcoin) might be too large for normal users .
satoshi (10^-8) is too small , so changing to bits sounds a good idea .

I like the idea of using bits. But i am french, and in french "bit" and "bits" are pronounced as "bite", which means "cock"

Nice try, but you need to brush up a bit. Gavin is one of the top thought leaders in the Bitcoin space; as well as Chief Scientist, he's also a published writer and entrepreneur.

And what do you mean, 'so what'? That your own opinion counts for more than his? (That's what it sounds like). You think you can so easily dismiss his opinion? I got news for you, compared to him no one cares what you think.

Furthermore, this is not about something that is or is not true, it's about an opinion.

Appeal to Authority Fallacy: because an authority thinks something, it must therefore be true.

It's important to note that this fallacy should not be used to dismiss the claims of experts, or scientific consensus. Appeals to authority are not valid arguments, but nor is it reasonable to disregard the claims of experts who have a demonstrated depth of knowledge unless one has a similar level of understanding and/or access to empirical evidence. However it is, entirely possible that the opinion of a person or institution of authority is wrong; therefore the authority that such a person or institution holds does not have any intrinsic bearing upon whether their claims are true or not.

Consider yourself fortunate to get educated on something you did not know (I've got a soft spot for all bitcoiners no matter how recalcitrant), but by all means keep to your own opinion about bits if you wish.

Gavin is an expert on technology, not language.

If you want to hear the difference between a reasonable person and a "Bitcoin Wing Nut" listen to Preston Byrne and Stephanie on Let's Talk Bitcoin

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-137-eye-of-the-beholder

He makes perfect sense and then look at all the comments of the story.  They claim he is a State lover, not  libertarian, and on and on.  All he did was describe reality (and I usually can't stand lawyers).  I could not find one valid objection to what he said or any explanation as to why he would be wrong for the position he is in.  

All the regulations have to do with interfacing Bitcoin with the legacy system that these people say they want eliminated so why should they care?  The proposed regs are for people that still want to use banks.  Not that I agree with the proposed regs but that is what they are.