Hmmm, they should use BitcoinAverage since it grabs the price from all exchanges and takes volume in account. Much better in my opinion. No it is not, because some exchanges lie about their volume |
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Anyone else feel like one of the bitcoin losers? We hear a lot about all the winners, now including some 15 year old child, but very little on the currency's losers. I got swept up in the mania last November and dared to invest my life saving into purchasing 1 bitcoin, just as it was near peak. That turned out to be a terrible purchase for me as the value dropped since, so bitcoin has only ever lost me money. Anyone else in my boots? I'd still like more bitcoins but going on my past 6 months my confidence and trust in this new currency has been shattered.  Seriously, people like you shouldn't invest. EVER. IN ANYTHING. You put money you really need in an asset that is highly speculative. Now, you cry, because you are not a millionaire after 6 months. 6 months are nothing for an investment. Where did I ask to be a millionaire? There was a lot of hype at the end of last year and I invested for my families future not to be some sort of spiv. The "I have a family to feed"-"argument" doesn't change anything. You obviously just wanted quick money without working for it. You gambled on a horse race. Your horse had a bad start. Now, you cry about the money you lost, even though the race is far from over. |
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Cool, if they finally get it working properly, but I'm waiting for the time you can just google '1btc to usd' or whatever and it brings up the currency conversion automatically like it does for '1gbp to usd' etc.
The question is: Which exchange rate would they take? But, do be honest, I also don't know, which exchange rate, Google takes for USD EUR conversion. |
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Ok first sorry if this is not the correct thread.. please move it to the correct one..
Here is something I have been thinking about..
I am not sure if this is even possible..
I have seen in the BTC-qt wallet you can send a message with you payment
Is it possible to make a program that you can send a message to an unlimited number of btc addresses
with a message .. well an advertisement..
So you could import say 10,000 hand picked btc wallet address and give them 0.0000001
plus the message the ad... is that even possible..
I know a lot of the wallets can't handed messages but what is the % that can ...
Anyway think of this before...
I don't see this as spam as you are giving the person money to get you message..
ps
sorry to people that think ads to your wallet is not right ... but if it is not me there will be many many others that will do it..
There are people who already do this. When I browse the blockchain, I see a lot of ads. I think, there is a reason, why you don't see this messages in most wallets: exactly that. |
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Anyone else feel like one of the bitcoin losers? We hear a lot about all the winners, now including some 15 year old child, but very little on the currency's losers. I got swept up in the mania last November and dared to invest my life saving into purchasing 1 bitcoin, just as it was near peak. That turned out to be a terrible purchase for me as the value dropped since, so bitcoin has only ever lost me money. Anyone else in my boots? I'd still like more bitcoins but going on my past 6 months my confidence and trust in this new currency has been shattered. Seriously, people like you shouldn't invest. EVER. IN ANYTHING. You put money you really need in an asset that is highly speculative. Now, you cry, because you are not a millionaire after 6 months. 6 months are nothing for an investment. |
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even franky1 exaggerate about this being a scam, he has a lot of valid points.
In my opinion, this idea belong to the land of fairy tales, where Bitcoins bring world peace, cures all sickness and alleviate world hunger. Some people in this forum will tell you, that this will happen, most of them will tell you, that will happen after we defeated all this evil governments with the magical power of Bitcoins.
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So did we find out, who Satoshi is? again
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If people would catch on to it then Bitcoin will be hardforked and everything will resume as if nothing happened.
I totaly do not agree. If something like breaking BTC's crypto happened, trust in BTC would be crushed and BTC would receive death blow from which it would not recover. Not because it's unsafe now (software change would fix it) but there would be no trust. No trust, no users. No users, no value. If someone steals a lot of Bitcoin, before it gets fixed than yes. If the more likely Event occurs, that someone theorize about a method to "break" it and than a hard fork is made, before anything actually happens, than no, that would not be the death blow to BTC, the price might drop for a short period a lot of people would be happy about buying BTC at that low prices and some months later, a lot of people would be very angry about them self, when BTC returns to business as usual. |
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Where does the bear/bull-analogy come from?
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I haven't posted on here for a while , but I'm wondering how many of you bitcoin users are in technical trades in the construction industry?
I'm studying to be a licensed builder in New South Wales , Australia .
I've been thinking of , a experimental bitcoin city if you will call it that. I'm sure there are places and people who have already tried this but every state should have a city built on bitcoin , reason being is that it's very difficult changing existing protocols and habits in a developed city.
If we started from the ground up with bitcoin as the underlying currency and foundation of the startup city I think this will make it much easier to transition into the larger populace.
To start with a large fund will have to be started and I'm talking in the millions, there would need to be a self sufficiency to the city , a green city.
- green energy (wind farms perhaps) and the possibility of selling that energy to the grid
- agriculture , cattle , etc
- people with trade backgrounds willing to accept bitcoin as a form of payment
- to simplify trade , I would suggest paper wallets of pre set denominations for regular purchases, even pre paid accounts with businesses
I'm going to continue listing things I'm busy at the moment but please add your own ideas and such
So, I give a merchant a paper wallet and when I leave the shop I just, send my BTC from the paper wallet to another adress, since I can just save the address of the paper wallet on my phone. Yeah, Sounds great ... no i wasnt clear on that bit, i meant more or less having a bank that oversees the process , imagine going to a "bank" and essentially depositing bitcoin in return for "notes" that are sealed in pre determined denominations that you can trade with. until someone comes out with an instant transaction process for bitcoin i believe that is essentially the quickest method of transacting in store. imean sure theres otherways but this is the whole point, its an experiment to test theories and method out before they are rolled out because the pioneers are the ones who take the risk but often are rewarded the most. if you did this stuff in the cities and itbackfires or fucks up i gaurantee it will be a huge blow to the bitcoin price. you want to show a city that runs on bitcoin and only bitcoin. as for taxes, as far as im aware , you can only betaxed on the dollar. and capital gains but it all depends on how you interpret bitcoin Transactions are instant, like many People who actually use Bitcoins(like this guy with the Bar in Berlin) stated in here before. Just the 8 confirmations may take some time. Also, if you make "notes", you always have the Problem about counterfeiting, which Bitcoins prevent |
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The future is reason, truth, and mathematics. Violence, coercion, and deception - the hallmarks of nation-state existence - are the past.
Very nice quote, hopefully it will turn out that way. That's one of the most stupid quotes, I have ever read. Nation-states are here for about 100-200 years. Before that, there also was violence, coercion and deception. Some People are completly delusional ... |
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I haven't posted on here for a while , but I'm wondering how many of you bitcoin users are in technical trades in the construction industry?
I'm studying to be a licensed builder in New South Wales , Australia .
I've been thinking of , a experimental bitcoin city if you will call it that. I'm sure there are places and people who have already tried this but every state should have a city built on bitcoin , reason being is that it's very difficult changing existing protocols and habits in a developed city.
If we started from the ground up with bitcoin as the underlying currency and foundation of the startup city I think this will make it much easier to transition into the larger populace.
To start with a large fund will have to be started and I'm talking in the millions, there would need to be a self sufficiency to the city , a green city.
- green energy (wind farms perhaps) and the possibility of selling that energy to the grid
- agriculture , cattle , etc
- people with trade backgrounds willing to accept bitcoin as a form of payment
- to simplify trade , I would suggest paper wallets of pre set denominations for regular purchases, even pre paid accounts with businesses
I'm going to continue listing things I'm busy at the moment but please add your own ideas and such
So, I give a merchant a paper wallet and when I leave the shop I just, send my BTC from the paper wallet to another adress, since I can just save the address of the paper wallet on my phone. Yeah, Sounds great ... |
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Austria is on the map, but not on the list.
Maybe the creator doesn't know, that Austria is not part of Germany anymore ..
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Definitely not. Hacks and robberies are even occurring to the most tech savvy users. If we really want Bitcoin to become mainstream, then we should invent a method to prevent all these robberies. Also, there are no reliable Bitcoin exchanges right now. The existing exchanges, are not that trustworthy. No one knows when another Mt Gox will happen.
Define tech savvy. I met a lot of people, who don't know shit about technology, but brag about there knowledge, because they once read something on wikipedia. I even worked with people in Software Developing Companies, who were not able to read code somebody else wrote and their own code was just shit, but would also tell everybody what great Computer Specialists they are. |
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Ich verkaufe nur "gebrauchte" Bitcoins
Wie schon gesagt ich mache im Grunde nichts anderes als auch auf Localbitcoins.com
Mit Website und postings usw. versuche ich nur mehr Werbung zu machen
Auch werde ich in Zukunft mehr Services anbieten, wie Bitcoin training usw..
Wenn nötig melde ich das auch als Gewerbe an aber im Moment ist das was ich mache nichts anderes als gebrauchte gegenstände auf ebay zu verkaufen und Mathenachhilfe stunden zu geben, dh im Moment mache ich mir wegen Steuern usw. keine Gedanken.
Lies dir mal das hier durch und überleg nochmal ob du wirklich privat bist: http://pages.ebay.at/verkaeuferportal/gewerblich.htmlDas Argument mit den "gebrauchten Gegenständen" halte für ziemlich unsinnig. Damit kannst du vllt. jemanden am Stammtisch überzeugen aber keinen Richter. |
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Ich bin keine Firma ich mache das Privat
Naja, ab einem gewissen Volumen ist es gewerblich, egal ob du dich als privat deklarierst. Wenn du es dann nicht als Gewerbe anmeldest bist du wieder im illegalem Bereich. Das kann auch teuer für dich werden.
Als Sicherheit biete ich an das ich hier öffentlich auftrete - echter Name usw.
Wo ist hier? Ich habe deinen Echtnamen bis jetzt nicht gesehen. |
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Ich möchte hier mal auf den Unterschied hinweisen zwischen "Der Kunde ist anonym" und "Der Händler ist anonym". Das sind zwei unabhängige Dinge. Das eine ohne das andere möglich.
Wenn ich zum Hofer einkaufen gehe und bar bezahle bin ich auch anonym. Es ist also nichts besonderes, dass man als Kunde anonym ist. Allerdings ist es etwas besonderes wenn ein Händler anonym ist.
Wie Memminger auch sagt (und soweit ist auch mein Wissensstand ist), ist es in Österreich gesetzlich nicht erlaubt, als Händler anonym zu sein.
Es gibt mir jedenfalls immer ein schlechtes Gefühl, wenn eine Firma(wenn man es überhaupt so bezeichnen kann) schon in seinen Grundfesten nicht legal handelt. Auch deswegen, weil damit klar ist, dass diese nicht lange existieren wird, siehe auch blizzcoin.com
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I don't really understand it.
What is "Load & Verify" and "Spend"? Should there be QR-Codes in that boxes?
How does the other side look?
Yes there will be QR codes in it. Load & verify is the address you send the Bitcoins to store in the paper wallet. Spend is what you scan to gain access to the private key of the wallet so you can spend the Bitcoins. So, you have Public Key and Private Key on the same page? Why? I can't think of a Situation, where you Need both, especially since the Public Key is calculated from the Private Key. I would Keep them seperated. You can have the public key anywhere, since it is no Problem if somebody sees it, but the private key more secure, since you just Need it, when you want to send BTCs. |
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I don't really understand it.
What is "Load & Verify" and "Spend"? Should there be QR-Codes in that boxes?
How does the other side look?
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