Mt. GOX is back up! ~ did you guys miss the news? :-D
That is so not funny. i have to agree on that... i have many work those days and i opened the thread and the 1st i read was that and i immediately checked website to understand it was humor only.... but, black one... |
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Well now yes we can say that the price has recovered! Will have again the same up and downs following by a big dump? who knows...enjoy the show!
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this proposal for not sell and instead buy back is really a drop in the ocean...
i have to propose that each one of us is free to do what every time is needed. you need money? sell and forget ( the same is good advice in the stock market ) and i say sell and forget because you don't know future and you can be sure only for what is in your pocket...
The market is moving with big players that can buy and sell hundreds of bitcoins and buy back, they can cause panic sell etc etc.
We are in a phase where bitcoin has some "problems", the moon need wait for the end of this year maybe... i have the opinion that we will go up but if you ask me to buy now i would say wait some time and you will buy in lower price.
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Αξιολόγηση του πωλητη? 100% Positive feedback οτι καλυτερο δηλαδη για να αγοράσεις απο ebay used. bmxakias αυτό που θέλω να τονίσω είναι πως δεν πρόκειται να αγοράσω κάτι που είναι ήδη στην Ελλάδα και να πληρώσω καπέλο την τιμή που θα πλήρωνα ΑΝ είχα μεταφορικά, ΑΝ είχα προμηθεια κτλ κτλ, και αυτός που το πουλάει το πουλάει γιατί εκμεταλεύθηκε την απόδοσή του και αγοράσε νεο για να τον συμφέρει... Οι περισσότεροι απο εμάς θεωρώ πως έχουμε ιδέα του mining, αν ως πωλητής θες να βγάλεις ( οχι εσύ προσωπικά ) τα μέγιστα, εγώ για παράδειγμα δεν ειμαι ο αγοραστής σου, γνωρίζω τι γίνεται στην αγορά απο butterfly ακομα εποχές, η τιμή του ειναι 300 το πολύ 350 ευρώ υπάρχουν και στα 304 ευρώ 4.73 batch. Αν λοιπόν ο πωλητής θέλει να βάλει καπέλο όλα αυτά καλή τύχη, διότι κάποιος που σέβεται τον χρόνο του και τα χρήματα του θα προτιμήσει να τα αγοράσει απλα BTC και να μην μπλεξει με όλα αυτά. Το θέμα όμως έχει ξεφύγει λιγάκι καθώς δεν με απασχολεί το πόσο θέλει ο καθένας μετρώντας τελωνεία που δεν θα περάσει καθώς τα miners είναι ήδη Ελλάδα.... Υπάρχει προσφορά η οποία είναι συγκεκριμένη, και κανέναν δεν πιέζω ή θα πίεζα  Η προσφορά μου ισχύει και όποιος έχει εξοπλισμό μπορεί να συνεχίσει να επικοινωνεί μαζί μου. Επίσης να σας ευχαριστώ για τις συναλλαγές σας και το ενδιαφέρον σας. Επεξεργασία: ένα που έκλεισα πριν μερικά δευτερόλεπτα στα $306 = 284 ευρω ( προσυμφωνημένη αποστολή στα 25 ευρώ αν το κέρδιζα όπως κ έγινε: ) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antminer-S7/122402298397?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D78fbdec560e54b3ab668c8340c10e829%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Des%26sd%3D262889768473&autorefresh=trueΔεν θα υπάρξει επίσης συναλλάγμα διοτι έχω USD διαθέσιμο στην Paypal. όσο για το υποτιθέμενο τελωνείο υπάρχουν και περιπτώσεις που είμαστε τυχεροί ή φροντίζουμε για την τύχη μας Πολυ ωραια και σωστα ολα αυτα που λες . Θα ηθελα να μαθω αν πουλας καποιο miner , και αν οχι σε τι τιμες θα σε ενδιεφερε να πουλησεις . Επειδη και εχω αγορασει και εχω πουλησει μηχανηματα , καταλαβαινω πως βλεπει τα πραγματα ο καθενας αναλογα με τη θεση που βρισκεται . Και εσυ αν ηθελες να πουλησεις τα μηχανηματα σου δε θα τα εδινες "κοψοχρονια" και θα κοιταζες με καθε τροπο να προστατεψεις την επενδυση σου . Ολα εδω εχουν σχεση με την προσφορα και ζητηση . Δε μπορουμε να ζηταμε απο καποιον που εχει εκτελωνισει ενα μηχανημα να μη το συμπεριλαβει στο κοστος αφου το μηχανημα βρισκεται στην Ελλαδα . Κατι που δεν ανεφερες καθολου ειναι ο χρονος παραδοσης . Αλλιως ειναι να βρεις ενα μηχανημα ετοιμοπαραδοτο και αλλιως ενα μηχανημα που θα φτασει 15 μερες με ενα μηνα αργοτερα ( και με την πιθανοτητα παντα να ειναι προβληματικο οπως μου εχει τυχει σε αγορες που εχω κανει ) . Καλημέρα, τις ίδιες πιθανότητες έχεις να σου βγει προβληματικό είτε είναι απο Γερμανία, είτε απο Ελλάδα. Ο χρόνος παράδοσης των 20 ημερών σε αυτά τα ξεπερσασμένα μηχανήματα δεν θα κάνει την διαφορά πιστεψέ με το γνωρίζω απο πρακτική εμπειρία. Πούλησα κατα καιρούς μηχανήματα στις ίδιες αναλογικά τιμές που προσφέρω για αγορά. Επίσης το θέμα τελωνείου του επιβαρύνθηκε κάποιος γιατί ήθελε να το έχει γρήγορα και αν το είχε γρήγορα το έχει "βγάλει" επι 2... δεδομένης της πρόσφατης καλής προμήθειας που έτυχαν όλοι οι miners και έχουν τύχει κατα καιρούς. Η επένδυση αυτή με συγχωρείς κιόλας αλλά δεν μπορεί να προστατευθεί, αν ήταν κάρτες γραφικών ναι θα μπουρούσε άνετα όπως και εγώ έχω κάνει στο παρελθόν που αγόραζα τις κάρτες 300 ευρω και τον επόμενο χρόνο τις πουλούσα 100 ευρώ και με 1 υπολοιπόμενο χρόνο εγγύηση. Η θέση του καθενός είναι κατανοητή και φυσικά είναι προσφορά και ζήτηση. Δεν υπάρχει ουσία σηζήτησης επέτρεψέ μου καθώς δεν επιθυμώ να σε πείσω για την τιμή πώλησης και δεν με ενδιαφέρει να το κάνω. Εγώ δίνω μια τιμή και όποιος θέλει καλώς |
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but but but........you guys said no more 3 digit BTC  Look.. what is most predictable is that goofballs like you are going to come in and say "I told you so" even though you had no fucking clue.. except to state on an ongoing basis from $250 to present that a correction was imminent. Sooner or later, you are bound to be "correct."  I don't want to say here who is right, I'm not anyone's relative here but was a good question and i wanted to read a better answer from a legendary member like you. What you would answer to me if i made you this question? In all my last posts i said we go down and all keep saying no , never again 3 digits etc... lucky for me i don't need somebody to listen, i have my own mind to see what is going on. and mark now if you haven't before my words, we will go under 800 euro very soon. i wrote specific number anything more down of course is welcome but but but, at the end of the day: don't HODL more than you can lose lol  have a good night Bitcoin Land! |
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Αξιολόγηση του πωλητη? 100% Positive feedback οτι καλυτερο δηλαδη για να αγοράσεις απο ebay used. bmxakias αυτό που θέλω να τονίσω είναι πως δεν πρόκειται να αγοράσω κάτι που είναι ήδη στην Ελλάδα και να πληρώσω καπέλο την τιμή που θα πλήρωνα ΑΝ είχα μεταφορικά, ΑΝ είχα προμηθεια κτλ κτλ, και αυτός που το πουλάει το πουλάει γιατί εκμεταλεύθηκε την απόδοσή του και αγοράσε νεο για να τον συμφέρει... Οι περισσότεροι απο εμάς θεωρώ πως έχουμε ιδέα του mining, αν ως πωλητής θες να βγάλεις ( οχι εσύ προσωπικά ) τα μέγιστα, εγώ για παράδειγμα δεν ειμαι ο αγοραστής σου, γνωρίζω τι γίνεται στην αγορά απο butterfly ακομα εποχές, η τιμή του ειναι 300 το πολύ 350 ευρώ υπάρχουν και στα 304 ευρώ 4.73 batch. Αν λοιπόν ο πωλητής θέλει να βάλει καπέλο όλα αυτά καλή τύχη, διότι κάποιος που σέβεται τον χρόνο του και τα χρήματα του θα προτιμήσει να τα αγοράσει απλα BTC και να μην μπλεξει με όλα αυτά. Το θέμα όμως έχει ξεφύγει λιγάκι καθώς δεν με απασχολεί το πόσο θέλει ο καθένας μετρώντας τελωνεία που δεν θα περάσει καθώς τα miners είναι ήδη Ελλάδα.... Υπάρχει προσφορά η οποία είναι συγκεκριμένη, και κανέναν δεν πιέζω ή θα πίεζα Η προσφορά μου ισχύει και όποιος έχει εξοπλισμό μπορεί να συνεχίσει να επικοινωνεί μαζί μου. Επίσης να σας ευχαριστώ για τις συναλλαγές σας και το ενδιαφέρον σας. Επεξεργασία: ένα που έκλεισα πριν μερικά δευτερόλεπτα στα $306 = 284 ευρω ( προσυμφωνημένη αποστολή στα 25 ευρώ αν το κέρδιζα όπως κ έγινε: ) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antminer-S7/122402298397?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D78fbdec560e54b3ab668c8340c10e829%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Des%26sd%3D262889768473&autorefresh=trueΔεν θα υπάρξει επίσης συναλλάγμα διοτι έχω USD διαθέσιμο στην Paypal. όσο για το υποτιθέμενο τελωνείο υπάρχουν και περιπτώσεις που είμαστε τυχεροί ή φροντίζουμε για την τύχη μας |
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Opinions on 960 support?
I can tell that we was on the top of the hill and now we ho down, the support depends on the force we have but again if price goes under $900 ( that i see is coming ) what is the problem? No problem! we have a future ahead! The same question was in $1000 support and i can recall many times answers was: huge support, strong support etc.. and within some hours we was under $1000 just like we are now |
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So what does the speculation say about time table. where are we now and how many days left? Factors involved?
Indeed a really good question, wish i could give an answer on that... i hope someone can help us out on this. the fact that the price is going down is a signal that many people cash out in my opinion and this will bring more and more to do the same - panic sellers etc.. some days before i denied to think that is really something to speak about but the people around i see made this something HOT... i like BTC how it is and i don't want any change but in life when we make plans the God is laughing sometimes |
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Depends in what mode you are i mean if you are on the HODL mode then yes buy at anytime and hold long term - can be really good as we all know. If you are in trading mode - many confusing this with gamble but it's not, then you can also buy at any time if you can see the markets short term future. But in general as i wrote 2 days before and i am writing to many threads not only to this one, we are going down more, the title of this thread need change as: Bitcoin price is going down... In my opinion we will go under 800 euro maybe within the weekend.Knowing - feeling this is coming i sold some at 1025euro and some at 1015 later, and i bought some Alts. we will know in some days the result. One proposal for anyone that read my post, don't expect to post @@ here and people to hear you, you only loose time. When it comes to my pocket i do what i think and want. I do not wait to read someones opinion to buy - sell etc etc... Those days of manipulation are over.. write something that can help the community |
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Καλησπέρα morfeas, είναι όντως σύντομη η έρευνα σου. Αν χτυπήσεις τα πρώτα αποτελέσματα του google ναι οι πρώτες που θα δείς είναι στα 400+ ευρώ. Αν όμως σε ενδιαφέρει να αγοράσεις όπως εμένα, και σκεφτείς πως ήδη έχουν βγει καλύτερα κόστος κτλ δεν θες να πληρώσεις κάτι που δεν θα σου κάνει καν απόσβεση, εκεί λοιπόν αρχίζεις και το ψάχνεις και βλέπεις πως η λογική του να μην πληρώσεις κάτι πανάκριβο έρχεται και στους πωλητές που γνωρίζουν όλοι πως οι τιμές είναι μεταβαλόμενες βάση της απόδοσης, σε αυτό το κομμάτι δεν υπάρχει συναισθηματισμός Παράδειγμα απο οχι σύντομη έρευνα: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S7-4-05TH-s-25W-GH-28nm-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-/112345594014?hash=item1a2851b89e:g:TcEAAOSw32lYxCmT Τιμή: Price: US $350.00 κάπου στα 324€ δηλαδή. Οι τιμές διαμορφώνονται στα 300 - 350 ευρώ και επειδή δεν θέλω να "ρίξω" κάποιον προς τούτο και γράφω πιο πριν οτι δίνω μέχρι 350 ευρώ. Οι τιμές που βρήκες εσύ ισχύουν επίσης και οι αγγελίες συνεχώς ανανεώνονται διότι αυτοί που θα αγοράσουν σε αυτοί την τιμή δεν θεωρώ πως ξέρουν τι κάνουν ( newbies ) |
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 Do you call this recovering price? What exactly are you looking at? Or you just post because you are having signature campaign active and you just post whatever in order to get paid? Having feeling is different from fact and how you write is like fact, and in reality the price is not recovering... |
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Just arrived this from Circle to my email:
Potential Bitcoin Changes
We wanted to provide you with some important information regarding potential changes to Bitcoin that could significantly impact bitcoin held in your Circle Account.
As described in our User Agreement, “Bitcoin is a decentralized currency that operates on open source software protocols which can be used, modified or adapted by anyone... As a result of the decentralized nature of Bitcoin it is possible that sudden, unexpected or controversial changes (“forks”) can be made to Bitcoin.”
Based on recent developments in the Bitcoin ecosystem, it now seems likely that one or more forks of Bitcoin may occur in the near future. Any fork of Bitcoin may have a significant impact on the value of bitcoin and your ability to access the bitcoin you hold with Circle.
What should I do?
The only way to avoid the potential negative consequences of a Bitcoin fork is to not hold bitcoin. Just go to Settings > Currency and convert your balance to dollars, pounds or euro (availability is based on where you live). You’ll then be able to hold those funds with Circle or cash out instantly.
Have more inside on this email but i only copied the 2 paragraphs, but can you understand the impact of this to the people ? This can be the reason of today's dump ?
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The prices will soon drop again. No one will accept BTU. ONly Chinese and lunatics love this idiot coin. Bitcoin is over. We will not accept BTU and there will be battle between Bitcoiners which will make the Bitcoin collapse. I hope that miners will change their minds and start to use Segwit instead of BTU. BTU will destroy the whole decentralized system in Bitcoin which has existed for 8 years
Can you explain little more? You say Bitcoin is over... now what are you thinking exactly and how this is logical? ETH is over that had been forked ? IF will happen will be take the prices down because everybody will sell to buy back more but how you can say it's over? |
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Dress? i read good ? another woman in the Bitcoin world > this is Great!! when did you jumped on the bitcoin? |
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Some day in the future, you will realize that the best time to invest was not today, but some other day in the future, when prices were low. But with the information that you have today, the best time to invest is still today, because you do not know when prices will be low, and you do know that the longer you hold your investment, the more time it has to grow.
Toughts?
Best time never comes, it always passed away. You can never grab the best time of markets. However, its still possible to find good time and made investment. One of the way to find good timing is study about market. If you see Bitcoin has potential to cross $1300 within short span then its not bad to invest @ $900-1000. Market works on relativity, depends upon how well you read.  I will agree with you on that, the potential is maybe bigger from what you write, as we speak there is still time to buy some cheap bitcoins as i think the game is now changing and we will have uptrend steady, long term speaking, i bought some more today now, if you want also to buy and HODL then it is a good time in my opinion. |
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Good afternoon BitcoinLand,
How do you see price? cheap Bitcoins before some hours right? As we speak we go up at 955euro / BTC. how do you see the short term price? up or down?
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As we speak the price to OKCoin: 999,51 to Bitfinex:1011,3 to Bitstamp: 1011.1 and Btc-e: 1056,99 Doesn't look to me as recovering! The good thing for me is that i had and open buy order at 970 that i had totally forget about and bought some more BTC! I really don't see like recovering, but after this small dump i feel it will recover and we go steady up. People forget about hard fork and HODL yours BTC don't let them take from you so easy... |
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I need to remember something that history has shown us is a good time to invest. and what is that? upcoming news...like the ETF.. prior to the waiting for the result the buying pressure was high and lead us to higher prices. if you could read that then you can make some serious money, those times will come again in the future, in case of big events is good to sell and buy back or buy and sell after etc etc
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Many people post good proposals, in real life when people ask me when is good time to invest i have a simple answer: Yesterday! There have been many people predicting the price of BTC, ONLY those who did for long term was confirmed until now, and was those people that back in 2012 etc including me believed and wrote that the price is going to pass 1000euro. and it did happened not only once. Long term i believe the price will be many times more than current, for the end of this year i can see the price at about 2.500 - 3.000 euro. If you have money to invest that you will not have problem with the result then my thought is buy some, yesterday |
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I believe that there is no reason to speak about BU but the more i see people write about this the more i think i am wrong and need write.
The accounts that speak about BU is 90% newbies, that is an indicator for me, the people who are here for more time are more stable and want more stable development.
do you forget the bug the BU had or i need remember you? come on finish this paid story, you think you are going to make money but believe me the only way is BTC...
now regarding the price i see no recovering at this point, i think we will go more down, the price started go up about 1/5 of the price end of last year - start of this year, the main reason i personal start to believe by facts was the ETF that not happened - and we do not need. as a result, some people dumped immediately and some others waited, since if you bought at 750 euro why need sell at 900? if you can wait some period you can sell higher, and many other choose to trade, some people also with BU plans are systematically dumping the price and the effect is weak hand panic sell, this situation is not finished and the price in my opinion can go down to 750 area speaking long term of course, i am not mentioning those up and downs of 20-30 euro that we experiencing now. you can't call it recover or fall this thing...
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