Having 50 euro already down from yesterday is not something you can say as good, for me is good if you think that i sold at 1180 but again i do not touch it.
The $2000 is something that we would have passed if we had ETF approval, for now don't forget the bubbles with Alts that hold us back, but BTC with EUR or USD trade for ALTS etc...you know how it goes. The title of this thread need wait some months i believe..

The last 2 days we have seen an uptrend on ETH and DASH if you check the exchanges is something i think you have not missed.
And we have price of the BTC down. I still believe that we are going to see Bitcoin price down more because of this bubbles created on the Alts.

very interesting idea what you wrote. and very possible to happen like this, this situation that you describe is most likely to happen and if we consider the talks about hard fork it's easy to guess what will happen. do we have news when the exchanges will allow withdrawals etc?

we have left behind us the ETF sauces and now i think we have to deal with the hard fork sauce! maybe need change title
and if someone know how to simple explain what is happening with this sauce i would like to know

It has been a lot time that i not monitor this thing. we don't have a voting process on that? who makes the final decision ? hard fork could f@ck bitcoin price and trust of course... 

I don't know what is this thing that motivates me but  bet accepted! i willing to bet that we will see our money back - not all but we will take back.
There is one problem with this bet...you made it so long term that we can be both star dust by then..maybe something more logical???

At current situation seems that the price have been stable enough on the price, but what concerns me is the volume. we trade very little bitcoins...
don't know but the last days after the ETF i am not very happy..who knows, it's maybe the fact that we are not in 2000 EUR / BTC already

i keep reading around this forum a lot and the majority of the people believe that we recovered and we never going again under $1000 and we go to the moon etc stories.

my experience from the 2012-13 is that when everybody say on thing do the opposite. now in my personal trading strategy this is not important at the moment since i sold at 1180 euro after at 1142 euro. before the dump. before the ETF and we have some dumps , small but there are in the charts, i predicted them and you can see my posts on wall observer thread.

This proposal of this thread may be sounds like troll and can also be i don't know, but this is what personally i follow, what we see until now what the bots trading, i tried also to trade and lucky for me i did not because it was just not working on 2 exchanges and i tried from user panel and with API ( the api worked but i canceled the order ).

So what has saved the situation up to know in my opinion is that in fact the people could not trade, IF something starts and people are in position to trade normal we will have different effect.
Hope that i am wrong but lets see

Believe it or not still have mixed feelings about this recovery, in my mind i expected to have a second dump that would be very logical.
Instead we have stable situation and i think that this can be meaning that IF would be another dump will be really bad this time, or we are so strong than we recovered easy after bots relaxed

this discussion is logical to happen, IF it was approved we would still talk about this and the wine bottles would be all over ...now that is denied you want like you said: just shut up...

Before i continue i need point ( i already pointed that in the past ) that WE DO NOT need the ETF at all.

What we need is good grown and MORE acceptance and all the other will come.

But "just shut up" and continue maybe the answer, or learn from mistakes talk about them and continue ?

Well i don't know if i can agree with your thinking.. i will agree more with HanvanBitcoin we must be prepared for Parachutes...

I tend to believe we will have a second massive dump following the 1st one. Situation only stopped for a while because people can't login to exchanges ... this was like the kiss of life to stop for a while this dump... this bounce is not very strong i have to say, the dump was about 9000 coins on Kraken and the bounce about 1000....

The answer is NO...  Amazing bounce back as we speak at 1050 euro!
i can't believe! now we can leave ETF behind us and move on? look like this is happening....OR second dumb will follow and will be more hard? lets see!

According to Ryan Clastelica the decision will be announce TODAY
You can read yourself here, some questions you may have can be answered also on comments, why not? let's just wait
https://twitter.com/RyanVlastelica/status/840217251223556096

this is the most crazy, maybe the bots just triggered and got crazy and that lead us to the dump?
this live is going ta last for hours...we need wait for result ..

EDIT  this link: https://www.sec.gov/video/live/2373689294677-evidence-summit-031017.htm
Seems to have no relationship with what we wait for,,,,,
Since at the PDF bellow writes:
AGENCY:
 Secu
rities  and  Exchange  Commission.
ACTION:
  Notice of conference.
SUMMARY:
  The  Securities  and  Exchange  Commission’s  Office of the Investor Advocate will  host  a  
public  conference, characterized as an “Evidence  Summit,”  to discuss,  among other
things,  potential  strategies  for  enhancing  retail  investors’  unders
tanding  of key investment characteristics such as fees, risks,  returns, and conflicts  of interest
.  An objective  of the conference is to marshal research from the fields  of economics  and cognitive  sciences to help
inform ways of thinking about  investor  behavior   and  identify  areas for possible future  research to be  conducted  under  the  auspices  of  
an investor research initiative   led  by  the Commission’s Office of the Investor Advocate.

I think it is live here: https://www.sec.gov/video/live/2373689294677-evidence-summit-031017.htm

I think we are going to have the result in LIVE!!! as soon as we have yes or no enjoy the battle!!!

You got me blind on that Federal Reserve interest rates thing. What this have to do with Bitcoin? Is somehow connected??

Seriously ? what just happened? i searched all the forum and all the main bitcoin news  websites. NO information at all anywhere?

any news? not rumors i mean. do we have real news?

You are talking about this:

posted from:  Killerpotleaf

If so, well... have some basis, if we accept this then approval of ETF will do what? pump just $50?

nahhhh don't see that happening soon, the only reason rejection, and let's not hide behind our finger, if we have rejection there will be massive dump...

We can't do that at the moment, IF we reach to one point that everyone is accepting Bitcoin as payment method then will be the start of finish of the fiat.
But at the moment we trade to win what? 2 things, more Bitcoins and more Fiat...it's what is going on right now...in ten years? who knows..only time will tell..

Back in 2012 about if i recall good i entered bitcoin, prices of course was different... at that time the risk was much bigger.
you will find nobody that can guarantee you your investment... theoretically there is not this fear to drop to nothing, practically there are ways that bitcoin can worth 0 but as other members wrote is something not easy to happen, and did not happened all those years... Everyday more and more people enter the bitcoin land. what you can do to be safe if you bought for investment is to see how you can take it out of exchange, and my proposal is that if you can and have money that you not need to buy some more.