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141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Exchange inspections should be a good thing. on: January 11, 2017, 03:12:08 PM
Inspections are not good if people used BTC for working around the capital controls.
142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price is being manipulated in China on: January 09, 2017, 12:36:12 PM
we have no proof but it is really possible. take a look around. where there is money to be made there will always be people who will take advantage of others. and when people have the capability, what should stop them from doing it? better safe than sorry. thats why i rarely put money in bitcoin i just work to earn some bitcoins preferably while cheap and just basically try to time my sells

We don't need any proof to believe that people buy and sell BTC off exchanges and that to do that they need to agree on the price - it is obvious that people do that. The question is how that constitutes manipulation.
143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price is being manipulated in China on: January 09, 2017, 11:03:27 AM
How is that price manipulation?

I am pretty sure this post is a troll. It is even funny how many replies he gathered.
144  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-01-08] Study: Bitcoin Hedges Global Uncertainty on: January 09, 2017, 07:29:58 AM
This is nice - we only need some more prestigious entity to join.
145  Economy / Speculation / Re: New Video: How High Will Bitcoin Go? $2000, $5000 or $10'000? 🤔 on: January 08, 2017, 06:22:02 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5mlv40/the_fractal_relationship_between_bitcoins_first/ Smiley

This is nearly exactly my thinking - target 30K. Of course in the meantime something can and actually probably will happen that will derail the process.

And by the way - what are this guys arguments in text? Who is he - just some random internet guy giving advice?
146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Can Hit $2K ? on: January 07, 2017, 05:44:43 PM
My target is $30 in half a year Smiley

Of course most probably even if it reaches that level I'll not have anything left, because I am too emotional trader, but based on previous bubbles this looks like a good target.

In the mean time it is very path dependent and who knows what can happen next - some other coin could surpass bitcoin, there can be some bug still hiding in the protocol or China could ban BTC for real. I cannot assign any probability to that prediction.
147  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-01-06] - China's Central Bank Issues Warnings to Major Bitcoin Exchanges on: January 07, 2017, 07:07:31 AM
"PBoc detail: exchanges cant do offline promotion; no fake trade; Devaluation cant be mentioned; mandatory strong KYC "

https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/817550313636798464

Looks like the government wants to know the real volumes.
148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Central bank of the Shanghai province warns about the risk of speculating on BTC on: January 07, 2017, 07:05:46 AM
"PBoc detail: exchanges cant do offline promotion; no fake trade; Devaluation cant be mentioned; mandatory strong KYC "

https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/817550313636798464
149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Central bank of the Shanghai province warns about the risk of speculating on BTC on: January 06, 2017, 10:50:30 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/chinas-central-bank-issues-warnings-major-bitcoin-exchanges/ - so now we have authoritative translation.

Sell the rumour, buy the news?
150  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-01-06] - China's Central Bank Issues Warnings to Major Bitcoin Exchanges on: January 06, 2017, 10:47:14 PM
Buy the news?
151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Central bank of the Shanghai province warns about the risk of speculating on BTC on: January 06, 2017, 04:25:43 PM
When I read the translation posted on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5mczaz/this_is_important_shanghai_pboc_has_warned_btcc/dc2mc5l/ it looks like this is maybe partially ass covering for the authorities - i.e. if it crashes please don't blame us, we warned you, partially at officials using public funds to play the market and partially at enforcing the laws.
152  Economy / Speculation / Chinese authorities warn about the risk of speculating on BTC on: January 06, 2017, 12:22:07 PM
I see this being removed from this forum - but it is an important news, even though not as important as it was made at the initial reports.

http://shanghai.pbc.gov.cn/fzhshanghai/113571/3230012/index.html

Google translation:

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The People's Bank of Shanghai headquarters, the Shanghai Municipal Finance Office joint relevant regulatory authorities met with the Shanghai Bitcoin trading platform is mainly responsible for
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Recently, the People's Bank of Shanghai headquarters, the Shanghai Municipal Finance Office jointly with the relevant regulatory authorities met the bit currency trading platform, "Bitcoin China" is mainly responsible for understanding the platform operation, suggesting that the operation of the platform to ensure the stability of the local currency, The possible risks, requiring its strict accordance with the relevant laws and regulations, according to the law compliance business. Urged the platform in accordance with relevant laws and regulations to carry out self-examination and the corresponding clean-up and rectification.

According to the Notice of the China Insurance Regulatory Commission (CBRC) on Prevention of Bitcoin Risks, issued by China Banking Regulatory Commission of the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology of the People's Bank of China (YF [2013] No. 289), Bitcoin is a specific virtual commodity, Do not have the legal nature of the legal nature of coercion and coercion, does not have the same legal status with the currency, can not and should not be used as money in the market circulation. Institutions and individual investors should correctly view the virtual goods and virtual currency, rational investment, at their own risk, maintain their own property and establish the correct concept of money and investment ideas. (Finish)
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Update: Title updated to reflect the most recent translations and interpretations.
153  Economy / Speculation / Re: HUGE Drop coming! on: January 05, 2017, 09:30:58 PM
Drop in Peoples' JAWS... cuz this train is going to the MOON!

[ dropping jaws images deleted ]


So the OP tried to be ironic and predicted accurately.

Now people don't even notice the text of the post, but just read the subject line and feel impressed.

Funny thread Smiley
154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Huobi price difference on: January 05, 2017, 06:23:59 AM
It looks that CNY (in USD) is bouncing back hard - this might put some brakes on the crazy Chinese BTC rally.
155  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2013 vs 2016 Chart Week on Week Percentage Change on: January 04, 2017, 03:40:05 PM
The comparison people are drawing is between 2013 and the current year not the previous one.
156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Bitcoin price may not crash like 2013 on: January 04, 2017, 11:07:00 AM
Obviously it will not crash just around passing previous ATH - it will crash when it will reach 30 times previous ATH.
157  Economy / Speculation / Re: is 2017 the new 2013? on: January 04, 2017, 07:35:02 AM
I can see most commenters here compare the behaviour near 2013 tops to what is happening now. But ware are not yet past the previous ATH - if the comparison is to have any meaning it should be about comparing now to February 2013. Personally I believe 2013 will come out as a good model for 2017. That would put the target for the top around $30K (30 times previous peak - just like 1000 is 30 times 30).
158  Economy / Speculation / Re: is 2017 the new 2013? on: January 03, 2017, 08:04:31 AM
For me there are two probable scenarios that unfortunately are not showing up in the poll:

1) A short, but strong hype (lasting only until, at most, February) with a new ATH (perhaps at about ~$1700-2000 USD) followed by a crash under $1000. That would be the combination of money flowing in by greedy newcomers (like 2013), but the crash would come earlier because the blocks will be full and Bitcoin's scalability problems will dominate the media coverage. Big drama and a 2013-14 combination Smiley

2) A sideways market from 1000 to 1150 or 1200 USD without a clear new ATH. This would be the healthier variant, because for a sustainable new ATH we should first wait for SegWit until changing into hype mode. But perhaps we already have crossed the red line to variant 1.

If it breaks the ATH after so long bear - then it will jump much higher than just 2000. 2013 is actually a good model here - breaking ATH was end of February then - look at the charts.

As for anonymity - have a look at http://www.google.com/search?q=TumbleBit
159  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price. Whats your prediction? on: January 02, 2017, 11:13:41 PM
Considering the extremely low demand in the orderbooks ...
There never was more demand and less supply on the books
160  Economy / Speculation / Re: is 2017 the new 2013? on: January 02, 2017, 10:30:34 PM
The rise in 2013 was a sudden rise, while this time it's more natural. A slow and steady rise since nov. 2015. This way it's more like the rise will hold instead of a major crash back to 230 dollar. When you look at the international currencies, it makes 'sense' bitcoin is an alternative for currency traders,


That was after it broke the previous ATH - we are still in the run up phase.
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