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Economy / Speculation / Re: My position
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on: January 30, 2012, 08:17:49 AM
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A lot of traders think they can beat the market, even though very few will be able to do so over the long term. Staying long will be the best strategy for the vast majority.
Buying now and staying long is also about beating the market - if you speculate you are trying to beat the market by definition. There are long term risks as well - for example government crash on bitcoin, or a better solution (maybe one not using so much electricity). Now there is also a midterm risk that there will not be any more bitcoin speculators and the money in the system will only oscillate the price back and forth between two numbers. I am a little bit disappointed by the bitcoin google trends impact resulting from that 'Good Wife' episode. Maybe the mainstream adoption of bitcoin will be much slower then we imagine. Google trends tends to follow price, I have not found anything that shows me that it drives price. I treat that as coincidence - or more precisely a too way feedback loop that just happened to show only one side. And it is not exact - the episode, for example, did generate quite high peak - the popularity though did not last. The main idea is that without more popularity I don't see much chances that bitcoin will rally for an extended time period, the prices can lead for some time - but if popularity lags too much - then prices have to go down as well.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: My position
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on: January 30, 2012, 07:00:46 AM
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A lot of traders think they can beat the market, even though very few will be able to do so over the long term. Staying long will be the best strategy for the vast majority.
Buying now and staying long is also about beating the market - if you speculate you are trying to beat the market by definition. There are long term risks as well - for example government crash on bitcoin, or a better solution (maybe one not using so much electricity). Now there is also a midterm risk that there will not be any more bitcoin speculators and the money in the system will only oscillate the price back and forth between two numbers. I am a little bit disappointed by the bitcoin google trends impact resulting from that 'Good Wife' episode. Maybe the mainstream adoption of bitcoin will be much slower then we imagine.
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1083
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Economy / Speculation / Re: My position
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on: January 29, 2012, 10:05:04 PM
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A lot of traders think they can beat the market, even though very few will be able to do so over the long term. Staying long will be the best strategy for the vast majority.
I don't know - so far I don't regret that I sold when it was at $15. Before that I was mostly losing on my moves - but this single one spared me a lot. That kind of illustrates the problem... That of random reinforcement. Without a system that a.) works, and b.) moderates emotional decision making, you are bound to fall into a money loosing trap eventually. There are lots of amazing stories about the 'one good trade' but this is not the basis of a winning strategy. Since then I've started reading about the various techniques, subscribed to the S3052 newsletter and it kind of works so far. Much better then I thought it would.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: My position
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on: January 29, 2012, 08:07:22 PM
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A lot of traders think they can beat the market, even though very few will be able to do so over the long term. Staying long will be the best strategy for the vast majority.
I don't know - so far I don't regret that I sold when it was at $15. Before that I was mostly losing on my moves - but this single one spared me a lot.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: My position
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on: January 29, 2012, 07:16:30 PM
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I personally do not intend to sell more. Why? Because the growth can earn more than the reduction ... Who feels the same way, or vice versa, and why? ..
My entirely unscietific Elliot Wave analysis tells me we are half way through the correction. During this time I prefer to keep USD, just like I did in the Autumn - but on a shorter timescale.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis & other financial markets (bitcoinbullbear.com)
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on: January 29, 2012, 03:11:57 PM
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there is a good strategy when the volume is small (need to have enough money) - hourly trend is up - go long on bitkoiniсa 10:1, buy Gox 500B (1000B ...) and quickly fix on bitcoinica, 50% of profits to send Gox, hour trend down - go short on bitkoinica 10:1, sell 500 (1000 ...) on Gox, quickly fix profits, 50% of profits to send Gox ... Again and again ... More attention analytics and trend lines ... mood on this forum ... draw your own conclusions ...
this works, it was much much more profitable around $3 or so a few weeks back. Who loses on that? bitcoinica? So they are a bucket shot after all?
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Controlled Drop, or has the manipulator run out of steam?
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on: January 28, 2012, 06:28:16 PM
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It is obvious that bitcoin is getting killed lately, and can potentially take a huge dive back down the the $2.00 range. Everything is pointing towards a drop, the days before the drop were also very obvious with the low volume. ...
I understand that you sold low when you thought it *must* go even lower and how you're kind of surprised - but maybe if you convince everyone that it goes back to $2.00 - then you might yet have a chance to buy it back. Good move!
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Bearish and bullish threads on this page - new indicator
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on: January 28, 2012, 08:37:43 AM
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I am a bit lazy - so I am now changing the range to 10 first threads.
The obviously bearish ones:
Smart Money has left the building… Have you? shit, shit, shit
No obviously bullish threads, but if the date was not sooo far away one could count "Block Reward changing to 25 BTC in November-December 2012".
At the 12 position was another bear: KNIFE IMMINENT
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Economy / Speculation / Re: shit, shit, shit
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on: January 27, 2012, 11:13:40 AM
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Not selling a single BTC. Buying more if it drops really low. Nothing has fundamentally changed to not be bullish about Bitcoin long term, there have been some confidence breakers recently but nothing compared to what we had after the big bubble. I will ride this one out and see you on the other side. That could be in 3 months, 6 months or 12 months. Doesn't matter.
I did quite well in the last half a year doing the opposite to what you were advising: selling when you were so enthusiastic and then buying when you started posting more balanced notes.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: U changed me into a bear
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on: January 27, 2012, 10:10:21 AM
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Yup, go short & win honestly, I reckon BTC is worth about $2 atm Probably less. I would not buy Bitcoin right now were it over $1.50/BTC right now. But it is over $1.50/BTC.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: shit, shit, shit
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on: January 27, 2012, 08:14:04 AM
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Hey. Quick idea... Don't short sell!!!
-EP
Better idea, don't panic. I see this all the time in bitcoin - a small (50%) price movement and people get worried. Wait until you start doing forwards (futures). The problem now are bitcoinica cascading forced liquidations - if that happens again it can drive the price down very quickly and at this point is is quite probable because we are close to the recent bottom and the star was on the buy button well into 5.4 prices.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: I can't believe the margin traders haven't liquidated.
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on: January 27, 2012, 07:46:13 AM
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According to Kahneman people gamble against the odds (that is irrationally) in two cases. First is when they can gain much for little (even if their chances are very small) - this is the well known lottery fact. The second case is less obvious - it is when they can avoid loosing (even if gambling means that most probably they will lose much more). When on bitcoinica people have negatibe PL they tend to keep the position even if they know that prices will probably fall. This explains how the prices were falling in the autumn so slowly, but now with bitcoinica and forced liquidations this is a different picture and I don't expect the bitcoinica deleverage to be smooth.
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Economy / Speculation / The bitcoinica star is an indicator
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on: January 26, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
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Bitcoinica star shows that bitcoinica does not have funds to support the rally any more - this is what stopped the recent rally. But indirectly it also shows that all bitcoin optimists are now fully in BTC and have no funds left for buying more.
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