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August 15, 2012, 08:33:18 PM
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Looks great and simple, Thanks!

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August 15, 2012, 10:16:31 PM
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Requesting Fair Play and Decency:

I have just had a look at "http://electrum-desktop.com/credits.html".

I am just an observer and user of Electrum and only contributed to its documentation, so my opinion is probably not of much relevance.

Nevertheless, there is something that irritates me quite a bit in this list of credits, and I have to point out this concern. It is about the order of names:
* Either it should be in alphabetical order,
* or it should be in "historical" order (who contributed first),
* or it should be in the order of "amount of contribution".

Since the list is not alphabetical, I would strongly plead to name ThomasV as first name on this list, because both in terms of "historical order" and in terms of "amount of contribution" he is clearly the first one to be credited, and it is just fair and good style not to have his name lost somewhere in the middle of this list.

For comparison: On "http://bitcoin.org/" in the list of developers, Satoshi Nakomoto is still listed first, although he has also stopped contributing for quite some while. But he has started the client, so he is listed first, and that is the right style. And it does not diminish at all the value of other developers' contributions. But it would question these developers' decency if they did not name Satoshi first in the list.

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August 15, 2012, 11:44:52 PM
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Requesting Fair Play and Decency:

I have just had a look at "http://electrum-desktop.com/credits.html".

I am just an observer and user of Electrum and only contributed to its documentation, so my opinion is probably not of much relevance.

Nevertheless, there is something that irritates me quite a bit in this list of credits, and I have to point out this concern. It is about the order of names:
* Either it should be in alphabetical order,
* or it should be in "historical" order (who contributed first),
* or it should be in the order of "amount of contribution".

Since the list is not alphabetical, I would strongly plead to name ThomasV as first name on this list, because both in terms of "historical order" and in terms of "amount of contribution" he is clearly the first one to be credited, and it is just fair and good style not to have his name lost somewhere in the middle of this list.

For comparison: On "http://bitcoin.org/" in the list of developers, Satoshi Nakomoto is still listed first, although he has also stopped contributing for quite some while. But he has started the client, so he is listed first, and that is the right style. And it does not diminish at all the value of other developers' contributions. But it would question these developers' decency if they did not name Satoshi first in the list.

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Michael

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August 16, 2012, 12:39:53 AM
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ThomasV, the author of Electrum, has made it public that he is not going to add new features to the client while a couple of us still see a lot of room for improvement.

can you clarify this point?


Some longer and shorter term plans as I understand them at this point:

  • Full functional lite-gui, having all the basic features the lite-gui needs.
  • Working binary for all operating systems and distro's.
  • Improved user friendly Wizard on first launch.
  • Build in alt-chain support.

This means I already got what I need in ThomasV's 0.59b version. Maintenance wouldn't be so bad after all.

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August 16, 2012, 12:44:32 AM
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Requesting Fair Play and Decency:

I have just had a look at "http://electrum-desktop.com/credits.html".

I am just an observer and user of Electrum and only contributed to its documentation, so my opinion is probably not of much relevance.

Nevertheless, there is something that irritates me quite a bit in this list of credits, and I have to point out this concern. It is about the order of names:
* Either it should be in alphabetical order,
* or it should be in "historical" order (who contributed first),
* or it should be in the order of "amount of contribution".

Since the list is not alphabetical, I would strongly plead to name ThomasV as first name on this list, because both in terms of "historical order" and in terms of "amount of contribution" he is clearly the first one to be credited, and it is just fair and good style not to have his name lost somewhere in the middle of this list.

For comparison: On "http://bitcoin.org/" in the list of developers, Satoshi Nakomoto is still listed first, although he has also stopped contributing for quite some while. But he has started the client, so he is listed first, and that is the right style. And it does not diminish at all the value of other developers' contributions. But it would question these developers' decency if they did not name Satoshi first in the list.

Thanks,
Michael
That seems reasonable to me.

Also I just noticed that I am credited with the mac distribution... this isn't really correct.  Animazing has done much more work  on this than I....  I contributed a couple of small command line patches.

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August 16, 2012, 02:31:49 AM
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Can't argue with providing simple clients! Whereas my VanillaWallet aims to be as bare-boned and minimalistic as possible, this Electrum Desktop looks clean and fully-featured.

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August 16, 2012, 09:33:54 AM
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Requesting Fair Play and Decency:

I have just had a look at "http://electrum-desktop.com/credits.html".

I am just an observer and user of Electrum and only contributed to its documentation, so my opinion is probably not of much relevance.

Nevertheless, there is something that irritates me quite a bit in this list of credits, and I have to point out this concern. It is about the order of names:
* Either it should be in alphabetical order,
* or it should be in "historical" order (who contributed first),
* or it should be in the order of "amount of contribution".

Since the list is not alphabetical, I would strongly plead to name ThomasV as first name on this list, because both in terms of "historical order" and in terms of "amount of contribution" he is clearly the first one to be credited, and it is just fair and good style not to have his name lost somewhere in the middle of this list.

For comparison: On "http://bitcoin.org/" in the list of developers, Satoshi Nakomoto is still listed first, although he has also stopped contributing for quite some while. But he has started the client, so he is listed first, and that is the right style. And it does not diminish at all the value of other developers' contributions. But it would question these developers' decency if they did not name Satoshi first in the list.

Thanks,
Michael

You were right, I took a few minutes to rework the structure of the credits page. It's alphabetical now and more emphasis is added to the fact that these are the contributors to version 1.0.

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August 16, 2012, 10:03:26 AM
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In a terminal, type:
sudo pip install https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/tarball/1.0\#md5\=863e61b215bf2e3fee243ce9583f677f
Then, to start Electrum, type electrum

How can I install it on a pen stick (linux mint 13)?

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August 16, 2012, 10:06:13 AM
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In a terminal, type:
sudo pip install https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/tarball/1.0\#md5\=863e61b215bf2e3fee243ce9583f677f
Then, to start Electrum, type electrum

How can I install it on a pen stick (linux mint 13)?

Couldn't you just checkout the source from git and place it on your pen stick?

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August 16, 2012, 10:28:31 AM
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In a terminal, type:
sudo pip install https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/tarball/1.0\#md5\=863e61b215bf2e3fee243ce9583f677f
Then, to start Electrum, type electrum

How can I install it on a pen stick (linux mint 13)?

Couldn't you just checkout the source from git and place it on your pen stick?
Sorry i m not a tech freak. Just a user.

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August 16, 2012, 10:33:47 AM
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In a terminal, type:
sudo pip install https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/tarball/1.0\#md5\=863e61b215bf2e3fee243ce9583f677f
Then, to start Electrum, type electrum

How can I install it on a pen stick (linux mint 13)?

Couldn't you just checkout the source from git and place it on your pen stick?
Sorry i m not a tech freak. Just a user.

I can walk you through it most likely, but you will need to insert the pen into a system that has the dependencies for Electrum already installed. Is this feasible for you?

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August 16, 2012, 11:26:17 AM
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I think i can install the client on Linux Mint. But i want to have the wallet in a container on the stick.
I dont know how to tell Electrum where to find the wallet.
Flatfly has made a portable version.

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August 16, 2012, 11:39:29 AM
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I think i can install the client on Linux Mint. But i want to have the wallet in a container on the stick.
I dont know how to tell Electrum where to find the wallet.
Flatfly has made a portable version.

With the client installed issue the following command.

Code:
electrum -w /mnt/usb/electrum.dat

Replace /mnt/usb with the path of your usb device.

Flatfly does an excellent job for portable versions for Windows, sadly I don't think this is achievable on Linux.

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August 16, 2012, 11:53:07 AM
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Is there a console (command line) in the new client?

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August 16, 2012, 11:53:41 AM
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I think i can install the client on Linux Mint. But i want to have the wallet in a container on the stick.
I dont know how to tell Electrum where to find the wallet.
Flatfly has made a portable version.

detailed linux instructions for noobs plz^^
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August 16, 2012, 11:55:52 AM
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Is there a console (command line) in the new client?

There always have been console commands (electrum help to view the options) but there is no terminal based gui.

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detailed linux instructions for noobs plz^^

Did you check the site and try the commands there?

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August 16, 2012, 12:05:54 PM
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Is there a console (command line) in the new client?

There always have been console commands (electrum help to view the options) but there is no terminal based gui.

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detailed linux instructions for noobs plz^^

Did you check the site and try the commands there?

uhhm.. no.
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August 16, 2012, 12:16:43 PM
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There always have been console commands (electrum help to view the options) but there is no terminal based gui.
In flatflys build you can choose if you use the gui or open the console with shift-enter.

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August 16, 2012, 12:32:55 PM
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There always have been console commands (electrum help to view the options) but there is no terminal based gui.
In flatflys build you can choose if you use the gui or open the console with shift-enter.

You can achieve the same thing by simply checking the commands with electrum help and issuing them. The only difference is that you need to start each command with electrum.

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August 16, 2012, 01:11:10 PM
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Maybe you could involve flatfly in this project for helping to optimize it.

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