Bitcoin Forum
May 08, 2024, 08:23:33 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 [43] 44 45 46 47 »
  Print  
Author Topic: What if US Dollar Crashes?  (Read 57058 times)
Zadicar
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 1330
Merit: 1020


Seabet.io | Crypto-Casino


View Profile
February 16, 2017, 03:30:03 PM
 #841

This is not possible, for Bitcoin to dominate and crash US dollar or any other fiat currency. No government in the world would allow this to happen and the preconditions for something like that simply don't exist. Not Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency can't overtake world's economy and finances, that is illusion, but it can become part of it.
Crashing dollar or any other currency by bitcoin will surely remain as a dream and also it may develop even more in the future but still it cant be recognized worldwide or become the main currency and as you said government wouldnt allow such act to happen.

1715199813
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715199813

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715199813
Reply with quote  #2

1715199813
Report to moderator
1715199813
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715199813

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715199813
Reply with quote  #2

1715199813
Report to moderator
Even if you use Bitcoin through Tor, the way transactions are handled by the network makes anonymity difficult to achieve. Do not expect your transactions to be anonymous unless you really know what you're doing.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
deisik
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3444
Merit: 1280


English ⬄ Russian Translation Services


View Profile WWW
February 16, 2017, 03:57:01 PM
 #842

If USD crashes, I don’t think that BTC price would rise because some in exchange market dollar mostly is dominating and most businesses were relying on it. All fiat currency will be affected if that happens with USD, however digital currency will not directly be affected but, could you think the effect of btc demand will rise high? I think , it will not because we are talking here generally on currencies worldwide. If others think that btc price will rise in value, well that’s their own insight but totally in exchange of btc to fiat currency money matters most if ever fiat exchange rate drops then it also affects the digital crypto currency price rate.
Bitcoin can't dominate usd , Bitcoin is just depending on the price of USD once the usd crashed what would be the next bitcoin currency ? It would be Chineses Yuan? We'll maybe this is not a good. Agreed al fiat currency will be affected also those big part of us that will crashed other companies because of bankrupt will happen. ANd i don't believed that once the price of USD will fall bitcoin will rise it just the demand and the volume that bitcoin needs to rise

Bitcoin price is denominated in dollars

But that doesn't mean that Bitcoin value is somehow tied to that of the US dollar. Some countries (e.g. Saudi Arabia) are doing exactly that, i.e. firmly fixing the exchange rate of their national currency, so that one unit of that currency is worth a fixed amount of another currency at any moment. This system works as long as the government can support this exchange rate, either by market or administrative means (in the latter case a black market could emerge, see Venezuela). Obviously, Bitcoin has nothing to do with such a system since its value is entirely determined by free market via supply and demand mechanism

BitcoinGirl.Club
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2772
Merit: 2712


Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o


View Profile WWW
February 16, 2017, 04:01:16 PM
 #843

”IF” the US dollar was going to crash the government would probably adopt an alternative currency like the EURO or POUND or use gold to avoid further hyperinflation . Bitcoin would also see a rise in usage as stable currencies are sought for and a possibility of skyrocketing BTC  prices!

▄▄███████▄▄
▄██████████████▄
▄██████████████████▄
▄████▀▀▀▀███▀▀▀▀█████▄
▄█████████████▄█▀████▄
███████████▄███████████
██████████▄█▀███████████
██████████▀████████████
▀█████▄█▀█████████████▀
▀████▄▄▄▄███▄▄▄▄████▀
▀██████████████████▀
▀███████████████▀
▀▀███████▀▀
.
 MΞTAWIN  THE FIRST WEB3 CASINO   
.
.. PLAY NOW ..
MoneyIsDebt
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 642
Merit: 500



View Profile
February 16, 2017, 04:31:38 PM
 #844

It can not happen as usd has become global dependency currency and grp of different countries depend on its exchange and price change.

Well if you know the news about dollars crash from the past years. Many investors pulled out their investments on US so they did made the dollars to crash. Dollars is still vulnerable in crashing and if it happens  will be affected too.
True dollar had several crash because unfavorable economic conditions, but can bounce back. If the dollar crash will affect other currencies, the price of other currencies will increase. But foreign exporters such as China and Japan does not want to dollar crash because the United States is too important customers. If the dollar crash will impact to  but not too big, as there are many people who moved to use .
yeah i think it might be possible because of the economic conditions of america now a days but i think it is the fact that world or economic powers of the world doesn't wants this. i don't think this will happen but i think if it happens it will cause a great impact on the bitcoin. and from this bitcoin will lose its customers to extreme level.
shulio
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1540
Merit: 1016


View Profile
February 16, 2017, 04:53:32 PM
 #845

”IF” the US dollar was going to crash the government would probably adopt an alternative currency like the EURO or POUND or use gold to avoid further hyperinflation . Bitcoin would also see a rise in usage as stable currencies are sought for and a possibility of skyrocketing BTC  prices!

bitcoin will probably wont be affected by this, afterall bitcoin isnt pegged with USD and people wont be using bitcoin as their currency. When USD really fall then this will be an opportunity for the other country to finally be the top of the food chain and britain will probably be a huge candidate for that which means GbP will be the next top currency
Mr.grin
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1218
Merit: 1000



View Profile
February 16, 2017, 05:06:05 PM
 #846

when the dollar crashes, I am sure, people will use as the main alternative bitcoin payment on the internet. well, even when dolam not crash, bitcoin is able to compete with the dollar. it's just that, bitcoin is superior because it is directly used by people all over the world. bitcoin will be the first choice in that regard.
webtricks
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1918
Merit: 1728


View Profile
February 16, 2017, 05:35:22 PM
 #847

US Dollar is not a global currency. It is a native currency of US though being used in many other countries (small ones, not in power to develop their own ones). So possible reason for USD crash will be collapse of USA economy. There maybe many possible reasons for it. And about possible outcomes-
1. Increase in exports (From USA)
2. Decrease in imports (To USA)
3. Fall in GDP and per capita income (of USA)
And the most important one, huge shift in world power. US will be dethroned from the post of Super Power Cheesy
Sled
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1680
Merit: 535

Bitcoin- in bullish time


View Profile
February 16, 2017, 05:45:09 PM
 #848

If US Dollar crashes, it will be one of the great opportunity for fiat traders because they can get a dollar for a lot cheaper price. I also think that the crash of US dollar will be good for bitcoin because it price will spike up very high and bitcoin will be popular since the most common currency crashes (USD).
deisik
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3444
Merit: 1280


English ⬄ Russian Translation Services


View Profile WWW
February 16, 2017, 05:49:56 PM
Last edit: February 16, 2017, 06:07:26 PM by deisik
 #849

US Dollar is not a global currency. It is a native currency of US though being used in many other countries (small ones, not in power to develop their own ones). So possible reason for USD crash will be collapse of USA economy. There maybe many possible reasons for it. And about possible outcomes-
1. Increase in exports (From USA)
2. Decrease in imports (To USA)
3. Fall in GDP and per capita income (of USA)
And the most important one, huge shift in world power. US will be dethroned from the post of Super Power Cheesy

The first two points will actually increase the value of the dollar

If the US increases exports, their exporters will obviously sell their goods only for the US dollar, so whoever wants to buy these goods will have to find dollars elsewhere, and therefore the value of the dollar could apparently rise with exports growing. Basically the same pertains to imports, though in reverse order, obviously. Less imports would mean less dollars going outside of the US, and thus the value of the dollar would increase once again

Grdas130979
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 10

The truth is out there


View Profile
February 16, 2017, 05:56:48 PM
 #850

USD has already crash and will continue to do so like every other paper currency. Tell me what did someone buy with 1 usd 30 years ago and what does he buy today ? The value of USD has crashed

webtricks
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1918
Merit: 1728


View Profile
February 16, 2017, 05:59:53 PM
 #851

US Dollar is not a global currency. It is a native currency of US though being used in many other countries (small ones, not in power to develop their own ones). So possible reason for USD crash will be collapse of USA economy. There maybe many possible reasons for it. And about possible outcomes-
1. Increase in exports (From USA)
2. Decrease in imports (To USA)
3. Fall in GDP and per capita income (of USA)
And the most important one, huge shift in world power. US will be dethroned from the post of Super Power Cheesy

The first two point will actually increase the value of the dollar

If the US increases exports, their exporters will obviously sell their goods only for the US dollar, so whoever wants to buy these goods will have to find dollars elsewhere, and therefore the value of the dollar could apparently rise with exports growing. Basically the same pertains to imports, though in reverse order, obviously. Less imports would mean less dollars going outside of the US, and thus the value of the dollar would increase once again

Thats indeed true! All four process of economy- Boost, depression, recession and recovery are interlinked. One is followed by the other. The possible outcome of USD crash will make US goods cheaper than ROW. Which indeed means cheaper exports from US. This will be the only remedy available to USA to heal its losses.
On the other hand, foreign goods become costlier to US residents, so decrease in imports. Hence, it doesn't mean self-reliance. So, no appreciation in USD!!
STT
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3906
Merit: 1414


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile WWW
February 17, 2017, 02:02:19 AM
 #852

He maybe has a point if its true that bitcoin is mostly used for moving chinese currency over to dollars.   If you destroy the dollar, then this trade is also gone and perhaps the worth of bitcoin is reduced.    However bitcoin isnt tied to just one trade and plenty of other currencies exist in the world, other goods, other people offering services besides just one nation.

You are correct that bitcoin cannot 'dominate' dollar but the main point there is US dollar is weak for its own reasons.   Bitcoin has never worked against those interests, if the price rises on weakness then it hasnt taken strength from US dollar and so gained in that way.    Very simply dollars are weak because they produce so many and make more notes freely available then actual trade done, the cushion that stops a fall is dollar is used by more people outside US borders then inside.    Bitcoin is just a newcomer and has little authority or trust, USA is the most trusted system in the world despite some very poor finance by its government and the FED enabling that.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
Hydrogen
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2562
Merit: 1441



View Profile
February 17, 2017, 03:18:15 AM
 #853

When there are concerns over currency devaluation, people seek alternatives.

An example of this is venezuelans buying electronics and tv's after Chavez announced he would devalue the bolivar(venezuelan currency) by 32%.

One of the reasons people buy electronics during currency devaluation involves fear of currency devaluing at a faster rate than flat screen tv's and electronics.

Buying electronics is a way of escaping currency devaluation. When the euro devalues, the price of gold always shoots up as people buy more gold to maintain the value of their wealth.

If the us dollar crashed, people would buy gold and bitcoin, and the price of both would increase.
every7878
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 261
Merit: 250



View Profile
February 17, 2017, 03:31:28 AM
 #854

I was thinking about this, what if the US Dollar crashes like speculated by many renowned economists around the world?
What will be it's affects on the beloved currency, BTC?
If the collapse of the dollar, I think the first funeral will be Chinese government. Because China central bank holdings of U.S. debt, the dollar will become a waste, the Fed and the U.S. government Chinese owe trillions of debt so suddenly fell. China's central bank suddenly less assets, the yuan is not followed by violent devaluation. If bitcoin becomes a way of payment in the world, China's economy will be greatly damaged.
nicolecan13
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 70
Merit: 10


View Profile
February 17, 2017, 03:35:14 AM
 #855

If Us dollar crashes that would bring a large devastation of the entire economic growth of the country not just america but those country that uses dollar currency. Bitcoin digital currency will be affected also because if we exchanged our btc to fiat and the dollar rate falls, the price is really affected.
diegz
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 798
Merit: 500


★YoBit.Net★ 350+ Coins Exchange & Dice


View Profile
February 17, 2017, 03:37:56 AM
 #856

If Us dollar crashes that would bring a large devastation of the entire economic growth of the country not just america but those country that uses dollar currency. Bitcoin digital currency will be affected also because if we exchanged our btc to fiat and the dollar rate falls, the price is really affected.

Well, if the dollar crashes, isn't it amazing for the bitcoin price? and if it crashes, euro and other currencies are still there. Probably crashing dollar would just affect the specific country that holds it and where it is widely used. But for those other country who has their own currency, it is in their favor. Their currencies will rise too when dollar crashes.  Smiley

asriloni
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3010
Merit: 1024


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
February 17, 2017, 03:48:38 AM
 #857

If Us dollar crashes that would bring a large devastation of the entire economic growth of the country not just america but those country that uses dollar currency. Bitcoin digital currency will be affected also because if we exchanged our btc to fiat and the dollar rate falls, the price is really affected.

Well, if the dollar crashes, isn't it amazing for the bitcoin price? and if it crashes, euro and other currencies are still there. Probably crashing dollar would just affect the specific country that holds it and where it is widely used. But for those other country who has their own currency, it is in their favor. Their currencies will rise too when dollar crashes.  Smiley
Because the domination by dollar and it will be impacting the bitcoin although about his price. because bitcoin still depend on the dollar and with his big influence.
If the dollar crash and bitcoin will also get an impact too.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
Zadicar
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 1330
Merit: 1020


Seabet.io | Crypto-Casino


View Profile
February 17, 2017, 04:27:05 AM
 #858

If Us dollar crashes that would bring a large devastation of the entire economic growth of the country not just america but those country that uses dollar currency. Bitcoin digital currency will be affected also because if we exchanged our btc to fiat and the dollar rate falls, the price is really affected.

Well, if the dollar crashes, isn't it amazing for the bitcoin price? and if it crashes, euro and other currencies are still there. Probably crashing dollar would just affect the specific country that holds it and where it is widely used. But for those other country who has their own currency, it is in their favor. Their currencies will rise too when dollar crashes.  Smiley
Because the domination by dollar and it will be impacting the bitcoin although about his price. because bitcoin still depend on the dollar and with his big influence.
If the dollar crash and bitcoin will also get an impact too.
It would really affect bitcoins price when dollar value will got crashed and as you said bitcoin is mainly dependent on that local fiat but there are other local fiat does support it but mainly on us dollars as we can all see.Crashing dollar is really an impossible thing to happen as of todays.

bncbnc
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 840
Merit: 500



View Profile
February 17, 2017, 06:24:58 AM
 #859

when the dollar crashes, I am sure, people will use as the main alternative bitcoin payment on the internet. well, even when dolam not crash, bitcoin is able to compete with the dollar. it's just that, bitcoin is superior because it is directly used by people all over the world. bitcoin will be the first choice in that regard.
if dollar crash it will bring so much disturbance to the world economy. i think people are already changing their mind for currency. they are giving preference to online currency and for online currency their first choice is bitcoin because there is no other curerncy that can match bitcoin.

▄▄▄▄
▐████▌
▀██▀
▐▌
▄██▄
▄▄▄▄ ▐████▌ ▄▄▄▄
▐████▌ ▀▀▀▀ ▐████▌
████  ▄▄▄▄  ████
▐████▌
▄▄▄▄        ▄▄▄▄  ▀██▀  ▄▄▄▄        ▄▄▄▄
▐████▌      ▐████▌  ▐▌  ▐████▌      ▐████▌
▀██▀  ▄▄▄▄  ▀██▀  ▄██▄  ▀██▀  ▄▄▄▄  ▀██▀
▐▌  ▐████▌  ▐▌  ▐████▌  ▐▌  ▐████▌  ▐▌
▄██▄  ▀██▀  ▄██▄  ▀██▀  ▄██▄  ▀██▀  ▄██▄
▐████▌  ▐▌  ▐████▌  ▐▌  ▐████▌  ▐▌  ▐████▌
▀▀▀▀  ▄██▄  ▀▀▀▀  ▄██▄  ▀▀▀▀  ▄██▄  ▀▀▀▀
▐████▌      ▐████▌      ▐████▌
▀▀▀▀  ████  ▀▀▀▀  ████  ▀▀▀▀
▐████▌      ▐████▌
▀▀▀▀        ▀▀▀▀
ivy|..FACILITATING SECURE, TRANSPARENT...........
..
BUSINESS PAYMENTS ON A GLOBAL SCALE....

..─────────  ❱❱  WHITEPAPER  ❰❰  ─────────..
|
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
|.JOIN US NOW!.|
freedomgo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3094
Merit: 1144



View Profile
February 17, 2017, 06:45:04 AM
 #860

when the dollar crashes, I am sure, people will use as the main alternative bitcoin payment on the internet. well, even when dolam not crash, bitcoin is able to compete with the dollar. it's just that, bitcoin is superior because it is directly used by people all over the world. bitcoin will be the first choice in that regard.
if dollar crash it will bring so much disturbance to the world economy. i think people are already changing their mind for currency. they are giving preference to online currency and for online currency their first choice is bitcoin because there is no other curerncy that can match bitcoin.
And I doubt it would happen soon, there is a possibility but that is very slim, still for me dollar is the strongest currency now and when strong currencies crashes other currencies will be affected as well. We have no idea how big they are, US is a very progressive country and they can control other natures for their benefits, may might not know it but they will continue to preserved what they have a be a leader in the world.

▄▄███████▄▄
▄██████████████▄
▄██████████████████▄
▄████▀▀▀▀███▀▀▀▀█████▄
▄█████████████▄█▀████▄
███████████▄███████████
██████████▄█▀███████████
██████████▀████████████
▀█████▄█▀█████████████▀
▀████▄▄▄▄███▄▄▄▄████▀
▀██████████████████▀
▀███████████████▀
▀▀███████▀▀
.
 MΞTAWIN  THE FIRST WEB3 CASINO   
.
.. PLAY NOW ..
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 [43] 44 45 46 47 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!