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December 12, 2018, 02:46:58 PM |
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When you say wrong do you mean wrong like when you posted an image from a wide angle GoPro camera attached to a balloon and, claimed the barrel distortion was earth curvature? You and your army of shills and useless gullible idiots argued it was earth curve for three pages before the subject changed in spite of the fact I proved the image was taken with a fisheye lens.
How did you prove it? Did you contact the author? Your conclusions are based on incorrect information.
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December 12, 2018, 03:13:11 PM |
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^^^ It's like you're a chat bot with absolutely no sense of context.
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December 12, 2018, 03:26:17 PM |
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^^^ It's like you're a chat bot with absolutely no sense of context. Because you keep throwing the word proof around like you know what it means... I'm just asking that you have a method to reliably repeat things you claim are true.
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December 12, 2018, 03:33:05 PM Last edit: December 12, 2018, 03:52:32 PM by notbatman |
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^^^ ... BTW here's that post where I prove beyond a reasonable doubt a fisheye lens was used: ... bump. bonus: bonus 2:
Every so-called proof of the globe is same shit as the fisheye lens, we are on a stationary plane.
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December 12, 2018, 04:49:57 PM |
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In the Russian Mig video the horizon goes from convex to concave as the plane banks and rolls. Proof it's the lens causing the curving effect. Vod is going to be confused as hell on this one. At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hgAnd you guys think you see ships sailing over the curve at sea level a few miles out?
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December 12, 2018, 05:21:19 PM |
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In the Russian Mig video the horizon goes from convex to concave as the plane banks and rolls. Proof it's the lens causing the curving effect. Vod is going to be confused as hell on this one. At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hgAnd you guys think you see ships sailing over the curve at sea level a few miles out? If you watch the video in slow motion, you will see that the curvature has to do with the direction of the camera... the angle of the camera to the canopy. When the plane is inverted, the curvature never gets opposite the standard earth curvature as much as it does when the plane is upright. There is curvature, not flatness. The proof in a MiG would be to film straight out the window from the side, and then roll the jet with the camera locked into its position. EDIT: in your video, the straight-out antenna or whatever it is, appears curved. The camera is showing us an optical illusion of flatness.
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December 12, 2018, 05:25:52 PM |
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In the Russian Mig video the horizon goes from convex to concave as the plane banks and rolls. Proof it's the lens causing the curving effect. Vod is going to be confused as hell on this one. At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hgAnd you guys think you see ships sailing over the curve at sea level a few miles out? If you watch the video in slow motion, you will see that the curvature has to do with the direction of the camera... the angle of the camera to the canopy. When the plane is inverted, the curvature never gets opposite the standard earth curvature as much as it does when the plane is upright. There is curvature, not flatness. The proof in a MiG would be to film straight out the window from the side, and then roll the jet with the camera locked into its position. I don't think looking through a curved canopy with a fish eye lens is the most effective way to prove the earth is curved or flat. Once again: At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hgSo in this example you trust the Russian government, through a canopy, with a fish eye lens or an amateur with a proper lens.
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December 12, 2018, 05:41:32 PM |
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In the Russian Mig video the horizon goes from convex to concave as the plane banks and rolls. Proof it's the lens causing the curving effect. Vod is going to be confused as hell on this one. At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hgAnd you guys think you see ships sailing over the curve at sea level a few miles out? If you watch the video in slow motion, you will see that the curvature has to do with the direction of the camera... the angle of the camera to the canopy. When the plane is inverted, the curvature never gets opposite the standard earth curvature as much as it does when the plane is upright. There is curvature, not flatness. The proof in a MiG would be to film straight out the window from the side, and then roll the jet with the camera locked into its position. I don't think looking through a curved canopy with a fish eye lens is the most effective way to prove the earth is curved or flat. Once again: At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hgSo in this example you trust the Russian government, through a canopy, with a fish eye lens or an amateur with a proper lens. In your video, the straight-out antenna or whatever it is, appears curved. The camera is showing us an optical illusion of flatness.
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December 12, 2018, 05:53:39 PM |
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^^^
Maybe the antenna is bent? Nothing else that the antenna passes over shows the effect. You can usually see the deception of a fish eye during movement. I don't see any of that. The antenna is constant throughout the shot and does not effect anything that it crosses over such as the clouds.
You can have your ball not trying to convince you of anything, Just pointing out your obvious attempt to deceive with the Mig video.
Very telling you trust the Russian government footage which uses a fish eye lens and is shot through a canopy more than an average mans doing an experiment.
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December 12, 2018, 06:10:16 PM |
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^^^
Maybe the antenna is bent? Nothing else that the antenna passes over shows the effect. You can usually see the deception of a fish eye during movement. I don't see any of that. The antenna is constant throughout the shot and does not effect anything that it crosses over such as the clouds.
You can have your ball not trying to convince you of anything, Just pointing out your obvious attempt to deceive with the Mig video.
Very telling you trust the Russian government footage which uses a fish eye lens and is shot through a canopy more than an average mans doing an experiment.
Again, there are 24/7 livestreams of earth from space. You can google them. Also full pictures of earth from space. What's the point of arguing here? Your only option is to ignore all of it and call it fake, that's it.
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December 12, 2018, 06:40:53 PM |
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Every so-called proof of the globe is same shit as the fisheye lens, we are on a stationary plane.
Actually no. With the globe, anyone can go to the shore and watch a boat disappear with the curvature - every time. Anyone can launch a balloon with a camera and see the curvature - every time. There are thousands of experiments anyone can do at any time to prove the earth is a sphere. What experiment can do you repeatedly that would suggest the earth is a stationary plane?
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December 12, 2018, 08:44:56 PM |
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^^^ A football field is 328 feet long, it's also flat. Your double digit IQ is also showing. I'm describing an experiment not making any claims, this is the opposite of assumption. I think you're a Satanic twat well aware of the Satanic law of reversal and inversion when applying your pipul however.
Reducing the length by 2/3 useing a basketball court then making claims based on the new much shorter length would be dishonest when attempting replication of events photographed on a football field.
Simple fact is you're all dishonest liars and gullible retards who will never agree to the truth, you should all be stuffed in gas chambers.
This (perspective) is the same exact shit as the fisheye lens just a different pile, all of you need to answer for your deceit.
But where is the math showing how much is hidden due to perspective? You are a liar. No math = liar.
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December 12, 2018, 09:07:58 PM |
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Reducing the length by 2/3 useing a basketball court then making claims based on the new much shorter length would be dishonest when attempting replication of events photographed on a football field.
The pictures of the football field that you posted show the person's legs starting to disappear well before the end of the field. The goalpost crossbar is 10 ft above the ground. Assuming the person is ~6ft tall the second picture would place the person closer to the camera than to the goalposts. So even if the camera is at the opposite end of the field, the person is likely ~100-150 ft away. Why wouldn't this be possible on a basketball court? Except you can't do this without a grassy mound in front of the camera, can you?
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December 12, 2018, 10:15:10 PM Last edit: December 12, 2018, 10:27:05 PM by notbatman |
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"... What experiment can do you repeatedly that would suggest the earth is a stationary plane?"
With a stationary plane I'm making two observations: 1. The earth is not in motion, this is directly observed with a precision desktop gyroscope (mechanical). The gyroscope remains motionless when the claim is that it rotates 360 degrees in 24 hours. 2. The earth is a plane, this is directly observed with sextant. The sextant measures angles on plane and measurements taken can be repeatedly confirmed via other means. Confirmation of the planar model can be made by measuring the sun at 32 minutes.
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December 12, 2018, 10:23:23 PM |
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1. The earth is not in motion, this is observed with a precision desktop gyroscope (mechanical). The gyroscope remains motionless when the claim is that it rotates 360 degrees in 24 hours.
Can you buy a sextant and repeat this? No, because it's just a story you heard. Proof needs to be repeatable. I'll repeat again - we have thousands of experiments we can do at any time to prove the earth is a sphere. Do you have any?
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December 12, 2018, 10:36:27 PM Last edit: December 12, 2018, 11:33:16 PM by notbatman |
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1. The earth is not in motion, this is directly observed with a precision desktop gyroscope (mechanical). The gyroscope remains motionless when the claim is that it rotates 360 degrees in 24 hours.
Can you buy a sextant and repeat this? No, because it's just a story you heard. Proof needs to be repeatable. I'll repeat again - we have thousands of experiments we can do at any time to prove the earth is a sphere. Do you have any? Your pipul (a complex and advanced form of gaslighting), in this case using a logical fallacy is showing; I'm not the one that does the replication. You ask for repeatable experimental proof and I gave you repeatable (documented) experimental proof. Also you quoted the wrong point you absolute buffoon, you competency as a shill is seriously in doubt here. Here's an image of a sextant on a plane: IMAGE SOURCE: https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/17178/do-pilots-need-to-know-how-to-use-a-sextant
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December 12, 2018, 11:31:54 PM |
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1. The earth is not in motion, this is directly observed with a precision desktop gyroscope (mechanical). The gyroscope remains motionless when the claim is that it rotates 360 degrees in 24 hours.
Can you buy a sextant and repeat this? No, because it's just a story you heard. Proof needs to be repeatable. I'll repeat again - we have thousands of experiments we can do at any time to prove the earth is a sphere. Do you have any? Your pipul (a complex and advanced form of gaslighting), in this case using a logical fallacy is showing; I'm not the one that does the replication. You ask for repeatable experimental proof and I gave you repeatable (documented) experimental proof. Also you quoted the wrong point you absolute buffoon, you competency as a shill is seriously in doubt here. Here's an image of a sextant on a plane: Source: https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/17178/do-pilots-need-to-know-how-to-use-a-sextantBut modern planes use GPS. The sextant is there for emergencies in some planes. But it is not accurate enough for general modern usage. Google it.
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December 12, 2018, 11:34:37 PM Last edit: December 13, 2018, 12:01:57 AM by notbatman |
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"...The sextant is there for emergencies...it is not accurate enough for general modern usage. ..."
Accurate enough to prove the earth is flat.
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December 12, 2018, 11:44:19 PM |
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^^^ But it doesn't prove that the earth is flat. Remember combining the measurements of two sextant parallaxes at 90-day different times of the year? This shows that the earth is a globe, that the sun is 93 million miles away, and that the diameter of the sun is 800,000 miles. The 10%, or so, that the measurements are off exist because of the crudeness of the sextant compared with other measuring methods.
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