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December 12, 2018, 11:08:33 AM
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Simple fact is you're all dishonest liars and gullible retards who will never agree to the truth, you should all be stuffed in gas chambers.

Nope - just trying to make you think.

Your parent's didn't lie to you on purpose - they too were lied to, as their parents were.

By pointing out where your mistake is in your logic, I can avoid all the useless back and forth.

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December 12, 2018, 01:35:12 PM
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"... telling people who are trying to help you get a grip on reality to go kill themselves. ..."

"... you are wrong for 700 pages. Its probably the most steadfast, ruthless, un-ironic denial of reality I've ever encountered ...", "... dodging all logic, fact, evidence and basic common fucking sense ..."

What's wrong with telling sombody who is "concern trolling" to go help themselves with a rusty piano wire around their neck? Seems reasonable enough to me.

When you say wrong do you mean wrong like when you posted an image from a wide angle GoPro camera attached to a balloon and, claimed the barrel distortion was earth curvature? You and your army of shills and useless gullible idiots argued it was earth curve for three pages before the subject changed in spite of the fact I proved the image was taken with a fisheye lens.

BTW here's that post where I prove beyond a reasonable doubt a fisheye lens was used:

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As a matter of fact, MOST high-altitude balloon pictures have a rounded earth in them. But let me guess, yours is true and all the others are fake and doctored, right? Your lunacy is entertaining, but goddamn you are one stupid asshole of a man.

IMAGE SOURCE: https://youtu.be/c1zF6rXLjxc#

"... All of the footage is done with a gopro hero 4 silver and was recorded in 1080p. This was filmed in wide angle so there is some lens effects going on in this video." -- ScienceBang

"... GoPro footage is known for its crisp image quality, coupled with a slight fisheye effect. ..." -- https://gopro.com/help/articles/how_to/How-to-Reduce-the-Fisheye-Effect-in-Photos-and-Videos




Notice the curvature a few feet off the ground, it's called a fisheye lens you double digit retard. Notice the rope? Go hang yourself with it!

Sombody has gone full retard, guess who?
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December 12, 2018, 02:46:58 PM
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When you say wrong do you mean wrong like when you posted an image from a wide angle GoPro camera attached to a balloon and, claimed the barrel distortion was earth curvature? You and your army of shills and useless gullible idiots argued it was earth curve for three pages before the subject changed in spite of the fact I proved the image was taken with a fisheye lens.

How did you prove it?   Did you contact the author?

Your conclusions are based on incorrect information.

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December 12, 2018, 03:13:11 PM
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^^^ It's like you're a chat bot with absolutely no sense of context.

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December 12, 2018, 03:26:17 PM
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^^^ It's like you're a chat bot with absolutely no sense of context.

Because you keep throwing the word proof around like you know what it means...

I'm just asking that you have a method to reliably repeat things you claim are true.

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^^^
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BTW here's that post where I prove beyond a reasonable doubt a fisheye lens was used:

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As a matter of fact, MOST high-altitude balloon pictures have a rounded earth in them. But let me guess, yours is true and all the others are fake and doctored, right? Your lunacy is entertaining, but goddamn you are one stupid asshole of a man.

IMAGE SOURCE: https://youtu.be/c1zF6rXLjxc#

"... All of the footage is done with a gopro hero 4 silver and was recorded in 1080p. This was filmed in wide angle so there is some lens effects going on in this video." -- ScienceBang

"... GoPro footage is known for its crisp image quality, coupled with a slight fisheye effect. ..." -- https://gopro.com/help/articles/how_to/How-to-Reduce-the-Fisheye-Effect-in-Photos-and-Videos




Notice the curvature a few feet off the ground, it's called a fisheye lens ...
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Every so-called proof of the globe is same shit as the fisheye lens, we are on a stationary plane.
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December 12, 2018, 04:29:11 PM
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Wanna see for yourself that the earth isn't flat? You can fly a Russian MiG-29 to 60,000 feet, and roll the aircraft to see that the earth is a globe. No fisheye. Simply pure, clear, canopy plastic. Where can you fly the MiG-29? In Russia, of course. But you can watch a flight here:

MiG-29 High Altitude Stratosphere Flight - long version 8 camera HD | flight data

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEH8iLjlodM


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December 12, 2018, 04:41:32 PM
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You're too much. There's tons and tons of similar videos that didn't use a go pro. They all show curvature in the earth. Not to mention the fact that the earth is fucking round. Here's one corrected to remove the Go-Pro effects; even though its corrected you can still see the curvature of the earth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdrmELRjScw

Before you scream "NASA Jewish Conspiracy" you should take in mind that it was published by a flattard.

This was in the comments of the original video. You should really take this into consideration. After all, its on you to prove to use that the world is flat, we don't owe you an explanation of why its round.

If you want to overturn such a well accepted fact as that earth is an oblate spheroid you need to provide evidence.

Your theory must agree with all existing observations and experiments, it must propose a new model which makes testable predictions which point to experiments which can be performed to see whether your theory can predict the outcome where current theory cannot.

Until you can explain such a theory, describe how it is in agreement with all existing observations (every circumnavigation, every blue marble photograph, every satellite, the nature of earth's dipolar magnetic field, astronomically based calculations and angular measurements dating back to ancient greece...) and propose a new test where your theory can stand against existing ones, why should anyone listen to your ideas?

As Feynman said "if it disagrees with experiment it is wrong. That is all there is to it.". If you're so sure something is wrong with the oblate spheroid model of Earth you'll suggest how it can be put to the test, if you can't propose a test you're just admitting that your theory is wrong.


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December 12, 2018, 04:49:57 PM
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Wanna see for yourself that the earth isn't flat? You can fly a Russian MiG-29 to 60,000 feet, and roll the aircraft to see that the earth is a globe. No fisheye. Simply pure, clear, canopy plastic. Where can you fly the MiG-29? In Russia, of course. But you can watch a flight here:

MiG-29 High Altitude Stratosphere Flight - long version 8 camera HD | flight data

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEH8iLjlodM


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In the Russian Mig video the horizon goes from convex to concave as the plane banks and rolls.  Proof it's the lens causing the curving effect.  Vod is going to be confused as hell on this one.  


At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

And you guys think you see ships sailing over the curve at sea level a few miles out?  





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December 12, 2018, 05:21:19 PM
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Wanna see for yourself that the earth isn't flat? You can fly a Russian MiG-29 to 60,000 feet, and roll the aircraft to see that the earth is a globe. No fisheye. Simply pure, clear, canopy plastic. Where can you fly the MiG-29? In Russia, of course. But you can watch a flight here:

MiG-29 High Altitude Stratosphere Flight - long version 8 camera HD | flight data

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEH8iLjlodM


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In the Russian Mig video the horizon goes from convex to concave as the plane banks and rolls.  Proof it's the lens causing the curving effect.  Vod is going to be confused as hell on this one.  


At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

And you guys think you see ships sailing over the curve at sea level a few miles out?  


If you watch the video in slow motion, you will see that the curvature has to do with the direction of the camera... the angle of the camera to the canopy. When the plane is inverted, the curvature never gets opposite the standard earth curvature as much as it does when the plane is upright. There is curvature, not flatness.

The proof in a MiG would be to film straight out the window from the side, and then roll the jet with the camera locked into its position.

Cool

EDIT: in your video, the straight-out antenna or whatever it is, appears curved. The camera is showing us an optical illusion of flatness.

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December 12, 2018, 05:25:52 PM
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Wanna see for yourself that the earth isn't flat? You can fly a Russian MiG-29 to 60,000 feet, and roll the aircraft to see that the earth is a globe. No fisheye. Simply pure, clear, canopy plastic. Where can you fly the MiG-29? In Russia, of course. But you can watch a flight here:

MiG-29 High Altitude Stratosphere Flight - long version 8 camera HD | flight data

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEH8iLjlodM


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In the Russian Mig video the horizon goes from convex to concave as the plane banks and rolls.  Proof it's the lens causing the curving effect.  Vod is going to be confused as hell on this one.  


At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

And you guys think you see ships sailing over the curve at sea level a few miles out?  


If you watch the video in slow motion, you will see that the curvature has to do with the direction of the camera... the angle of the camera to the canopy. When the plane is inverted, the curvature never gets opposite the standard earth curvature as much as it does when the plane is upright. There is curvature, not flatness.

The proof in a MiG would be to film straight out the window from the side, and then roll the jet with the camera locked into its position.

Cool

I don't think looking through a curved canopy with a fish eye lens is the most effective way to prove the earth is curved or flat.

Once again:
At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

So in this example you trust the Russian government, through a canopy, with a fish eye lens or an amateur with a proper lens.
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Wanna see for yourself that the earth isn't flat? You can fly a Russian MiG-29 to 60,000 feet, and roll the aircraft to see that the earth is a globe. No fisheye. Simply pure, clear, canopy plastic. Where can you fly the MiG-29? In Russia, of course. But you can watch a flight here:

MiG-29 High Altitude Stratosphere Flight - long version 8 camera HD | flight data

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEH8iLjlodM


Cool

In the Russian Mig video the horizon goes from convex to concave as the plane banks and rolls.  Proof it's the lens causing the curving effect.  Vod is going to be confused as hell on this one.  


At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

And you guys think you see ships sailing over the curve at sea level a few miles out?  


If you watch the video in slow motion, you will see that the curvature has to do with the direction of the camera... the angle of the camera to the canopy. When the plane is inverted, the curvature never gets opposite the standard earth curvature as much as it does when the plane is upright. There is curvature, not flatness.

The proof in a MiG would be to film straight out the window from the side, and then roll the jet with the camera locked into its position.

Cool

I don't think looking through a curved canopy with a fish eye lens is the most effective way to prove the earth is curved or flat.

Once again:
At 121,000 feet the earth appears flat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

So in this example you trust the Russian government, through a canopy, with a fish eye lens or an amateur with a proper lens.


In your video, the straight-out antenna or whatever it is, appears curved. The camera is showing us an optical illusion of flatness.

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December 12, 2018, 05:53:39 PM
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^^^

Maybe the antenna is bent?  Nothing else that the antenna passes over shows the effect.  You can usually see the deception of a fish eye during movement.  I don't see any of that.  The antenna is constant throughout the shot and does not effect anything that it crosses over such as the clouds. 

You can have your ball not trying to convince you of anything,  Just pointing out your obvious attempt to deceive with the Mig video. 

Very telling you trust the Russian government footage which uses a fish eye lens and is shot through a canopy more than an average mans doing an experiment. 
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December 12, 2018, 06:10:16 PM
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Maybe the antenna is bent?  Nothing else that the antenna passes over shows the effect.  You can usually see the deception of a fish eye during movement.  I don't see any of that.  The antenna is constant throughout the shot and does not effect anything that it crosses over such as the clouds. 

You can have your ball not trying to convince you of anything,  Just pointing out your obvious attempt to deceive with the Mig video. 

Very telling you trust the Russian government footage which uses a fish eye lens and is shot through a canopy more than an average mans doing an experiment. 


Again, there are 24/7 livestreams of earth from space. You can google them. Also full pictures of earth from space. What's the point of arguing here? Your only option is to ignore all of it and call it fake, that's it.


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December 12, 2018, 06:40:53 PM
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Every so-called proof of the globe is same shit as the fisheye lens, we are on a stationary plane.

Actually no.  With the globe, anyone can go to the shore and watch a boat disappear with the curvature - every time.

Anyone can launch a balloon with a camera and see the curvature - every time.

There are thousands of experiments anyone can do at any time to prove the earth is a sphere.

What experiment can do you repeatedly that would suggest the earth is a stationary plane?

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December 12, 2018, 08:44:56 PM
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^^^ A football field is 328 feet long, it's also flat. Your double digit IQ is also showing. I'm describing an experiment not making any claims, this is the opposite of assumption. I think you're a Satanic twat well aware of the Satanic law of reversal and inversion when applying your pipul however.

Reducing the length by 2/3 useing a basketball court then making claims based on the new much shorter length would be dishonest when attempting replication of events photographed on a football field.

Simple fact is you're all dishonest liars and gullible retards who will never agree to the truth, you should all be stuffed in gas chambers.

This (perspective) is the same exact shit as the fisheye lens just a different pile, all of you need to answer for your deceit.

But where is the math showing how much is hidden due to perspective? You are a liar. No math = liar.


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December 12, 2018, 09:07:58 PM
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Reducing the length by 2/3 useing a basketball court then making claims based on the new much shorter length would be dishonest when attempting replication of events photographed on a football field.

The pictures of the football field that you posted show the person's legs starting to disappear well before the end of the field.

The goalpost crossbar is 10 ft above the ground. Assuming the person is ~6ft tall the second picture would place the person closer to the camera than to the goalposts. So even if the camera is at the opposite end of the field, the person is likely ~100-150 ft away. Why wouldn't this be possible on a basketball court?

Except you can't do this without a grassy mound in front of the camera, can you?

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December 12, 2018, 10:15:10 PM
Last edit: December 12, 2018, 10:27:05 PM by notbatman
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"... What experiment can do you repeatedly that would suggest the earth is a stationary plane?"

With a stationary plane I'm making two observations:

1. The earth is not in motion, this is directly observed with a precision desktop gyroscope (mechanical). The gyroscope remains motionless when the claim is that it rotates 360 degrees in 24 hours.

2. The earth is a plane, this is directly observed with sextant. The sextant measures angles on plane and measurements taken can be repeatedly confirmed via other means. Confirmation of the planar model can be made by measuring the sun at 32 minutes.
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December 12, 2018, 10:23:23 PM
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1. The earth is not in motion, this is observed with a precision desktop gyroscope (mechanical). The gyroscope remains motionless when the claim is that it rotates 360 degrees in 24 hours.

Can you buy a sextant and repeat this?   No, because it's just a story you heard.

Proof needs to be repeatable. 

I'll repeat again - we have thousands of experiments we can do at any time to prove the earth is a sphere. 

Do you have any?

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December 12, 2018, 10:36:27 PM
Last edit: December 12, 2018, 11:33:16 PM by notbatman
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1. The earth is not in motion, this is directly observed with a precision desktop gyroscope (mechanical). The gyroscope remains motionless when the claim is that it rotates 360 degrees in 24 hours.

Can you buy a sextant and repeat this?   No, because it's just a story you heard.

Proof needs to be repeatable.  

I'll repeat again - we have thousands of experiments we can do at any time to prove the earth is a sphere.  

Do you have any?

Your pipul (a complex and advanced form of gaslighting), in this case using a logical fallacy is showing; I'm not the one that does the replication. You ask for repeatable experimental proof and I gave you repeatable (documented) experimental proof.

Also you quoted the wrong point you absolute buffoon, you competency as a shill is seriously in doubt here.



Here's an image of a sextant on a plane:


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