Flat Earth

[Astargath]

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''Special Relativity was the excuse they (the Jews) used to claim that M&M was not conclusive'' How do you know, were you there?

The Jews and all the hard-working men and women who perform oral pleasures for them currently use it (SR), as their excuse to claim the experiment (M&M) is inconclusive.

''This where Prunier & Dufour's replication of The Sagnac Experiment and its accounting for a rotational frame of reference comes in. D&P proved SR is not consistent with experiment while also proving the existence of a static aether. M&M, AF and TN all prove the Earth is motionless because D&P debunks SR.'' How do you know, were you there? Did you do it yourself?

The Jews and all the hard-working men and women who perform oral pleasures for them currently use the excuse that, The Sagnac Experiment doesn't take rotating frames of reference into account to claim it (TSE), is not conclusive. The Prunier & Dufour replication took rotating frames of reference into account and the results are conclusive; SR is not consistent with experiment.

Did I do it myself? No we're arguing about established scientific experiments here!

''The keyword here is "theory" You mean this?:

''A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment.[1][2] In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.[3]''

If you change "A scientific theory is an explanation ..." to "A scientific theory is a possible explanation ..." then yes.

''No we're arguing about established scientific experiments here!'' You don't want to believe established science though, gravity and the fact that the earth is not flat was established long ago, scientifically. Do you really not see the flaw in your logic here or are you just being a dishonest liar as usual?

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[exemplaar]

So I guess, like, all of this is just bullshit to you, right?

Yes, this is bullcrap, also called monkeyman science or scientism. It is a lie. Watch documentaries scientism exposed part 1 and 2.

George Lemaitre a jesuit priest sellout made the big bang and universe. God made the heaven and the earth.




@DelricoFabien
Research Biblical earth! (flat earth plane realm covered with a firmament-dome).



 

[Astargath]

So I guess, like, all of this is just bullshit to you, right?

Yes, this is bullcrap, also called monkeyman science or scientism. It is a lie. Watch documentaries scientism exposed part 1 and 2.

George Lemaitre a jesuit priest sellout made the big bang and universe. God made the heaven and the earth.




@DelricoFabien
Research Biblical earth! (flat earth plane realm covered with a firmament-dome).



 

How is any of this luring people away from god when most people still believe in god as always? Christians know the earth isn't flat and it's not stopping them from believing in god, your logic is bad.

[BADecker]

So I guess, like, all of this is just bullshit to you, right?

Yes, this is bullcrap, also called monkeyman science or scientism. It is a lie. Watch documentaries scientism exposed part 1 and 2.

George Lemaitre a jesuit priest sellout made the big bang and universe. God made the heaven and the earth.




@DelricoFabien
Research Biblical earth! (flat earth plane realm covered with a firmament-dome).

All this Bible-FE stuff is fine until you think about it.

The purpose of the Bible is to provide salvation for people. The O.T. Messiah is the N.T. Christ. Jesus fulfilled it.

The purpose of the Bible is NOT to help modern science to have better scientific understandings.

Go to Kansas. Step outside on a clear night, and with the unaided eye, look at the sky, horizon to horizon. It looks like a big dome. This is what the unscientific people of the past saw... a big dome. So, to provide them with the way to salvation, God gave them words that fit where they live... a non-science world with non-science words.

Look at the beginning of Ezekiel in the O.T.  Read about Ezekiel's spaceship. Ezekiel did a pretty good job of describing the spaceship. Modern science has expanded our understanding of it in ways that Ezekiel never would understand. But even we with all our science don't know much about it.

In other words, just because those ancient peoples saw a FE, this doesn't mean that the earth is essentially flat. Modern science has proven that the earth is a GE in ways that fit the FE primitive pictures of the past, while showing that the earth is really a GE.

[velvetsunset]

Very shocking to see the FE provide experiments and measurements and see the science side bring nothing but talk, tantrums and "proof" that can never be proven.  I love the picture of how the galaxy works.  That's the big comeback to the experiments that were done on the FE side?  

I always believed what I was told in school.  This thread is a real eye opener.  

[SaltySpitoon]

''No we're arguing about established scientific experiments here!'' You don't want to believe established science though, gravity and the fact that the earth is not flat was established long ago, scientifically. Do you really not see the flaw in your logic here or are you just being a dishonest liar as usual?

I don't think they are lying. I went through some of their older posts in the thread, and I'm under the impression that they are messing around, hopefully not genuinely disturbed.

On an interesting side note, there was a topic a grad student from Stanford I want to say, proposed a few years ago, where they said that all bodies in the universe are made of yoyos, and it held pretty well mathematically under ideal situations. The real flat earth believers use that kind of pseudo logic to find specialized circumstances inside of the broader acceptance of how things work, to come up with interesting ideas like that. They are at least useful in that you can question why it all makes sense if all of the planets are yoyos and learn something from it.

Notbatman is essentially invoking the religious argument, that everything is wrong because. You don't need to back up an argument based on faith. We can't prove otherwise because we can't come to an agreement on any basis, and you don't need to explain your faith, because its your belief. If I say that something is gravity, you can simply say, no that's god's will holding you down, and you can't prove or disprove it. Even if we come to an agreement that we can quantify mystery X at 9.80m/s^2 at the surface of the earth, you can still argue that it is only Mystery X at the surface of the earth in cases where the aether monster wants it to be, so you can bend any misconception that you want into a fact.

I'm sure this is going to be misquoted, so don't bother responding until you prove that your assumptions aren't mere beliefs in the unproven. The reason I think you are just messing around, is because you are very intentionally dodging the least critical, most logical questions that I've asked. They don't target you, and rather assume you are correct, and invite you onto the stage to share you knowledge. You won't begin by proving your statements because you don't have to prove your statements, because they are mere beliefs. If you at least want the A for effort, back up your claims with something consistent. If you want to prove that the aether exists because of an experiment that relies on gravity for the result, you are admitting that gravity exists. If you don't think gravity exists, you can't use the results of that experiment.

Science can't argue against an omnipotent force that can do anything it wants. Science can't convince religion, those that don't understand it, or those that purposely ignore it.

I acknowledge your right to your own reality. Your belief in a flat earth doesn't hurt anyone any more than someone's belief in a deity, cthulu, the flying spaghetti monster, or santa clause. Just know that not a single person will ever take you seriously if you can't understand the concept of backing up your claims, or blaming the jews for flattening earth or whatever it is you are doing.

[exemplaar]

How is any of this luring people away from god when most people still believe in god as always? Christians know the earth isn't flat and it's not stopping them from believing in god, your logic is bad.

You can't see because you have been utterly confused by that jesuit sellout badecker. Check again facts in this great documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbyJDou4qQ&t

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Badecker's post above is a clear display of a typical jesuit tactics to discredit The Word of God and bring confusion to people which are honestly seeking The Truth.

[Astargath]

How is any of this luring people away from god when most people still believe in god as always? Christians know the earth isn't flat and it's not stopping them from believing in god, your logic is bad.

You can't see because you have been utterly confused by that jesuit sellout badecker. Check again facts in this great documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbyJDou4qQ&t

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Badecker's post above is a clear display of a typical jesuit tactics to discredit The Word of God and bring confusion to people which are honestly seeking The Truth.

Statistics show that people are still deeply religious, everywhere, their strategy is clearly not working, how did they even got the power to do this when most people are religious people? 0 sense.

[Vod]

The keyword here is "theory".

Gravity is a "theory" is it?

Let me ask you this child - when was the last time gravity did not work as we said it would?

Every step you take, you literally rely on the law of gravity to pull your foot back down to the earth.

That is how you walk. 

Go hang youself you little bitch

Hmmm, doesn't that rely on.......  gravity?

 

[Vod]

Did I do it myself? No we're arguing about <magic> here!

Believing in what some brainwashed cult told you?   

Millions of us have done experiments ourselves to prove the world is a sphere.  You just take someone else's word it is magic.

Give it up already fool - you lost a long time ago...

[sirazimuth]

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You should kill yourself.

No you're a hippocrit who goes around accusing people of being liars while being the liar and copping out to authority. Go curl up inside a gas oven you worthless sack of shit!

"The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you"

The obvious reality is that everybody is brainwashed not knowinly liars, the liars are actually few in number perhaps 1% of the population. You're dishonestly framing my arguments and should curl up in the oven with Vod for being a fag.
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^^^ No it's not meaningless, Vod is claiming I'm a liar and given me a negative trust rating as a member of the default trust list for stating a provable fact. Fucking sack of shit hides behind the cop-out to authority.

The adage of the Jew crying out in pain as he strikes you keeps getting reinforced here; you're all selling science but I'm the only one actually delivering.
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Aaaaand the beat continues.
You don't even have to engage this clown to demonstrate he's not dealing with a full deck.
Just quoting him works fine.... (and apparently he doesn't even bother with spell check )

[bitserve]

Can we vote already?

[sirazimuth]

Can we vote already?

I'm holding my breath....

[notbatman]

The keyword here is "theory".

Gravity is a "theory" is it?

Yes, it's an unproven theory.

Let me ask you this child - when was the last time gravity did not work as we said it would?

It's been a few years but, it was the last time I played with a slinky if I recall correctly.

Every step you take, you literally rely on the law of gravity to pull your foot back down to the earth.

That is how you walk. 

Gravity is a theory, the force pushing you down is caused by the atmosphere you've displaced.

Go hang youself you little bitch

Hmmm, doesn't that rely on.......  gravity?

 

Nope, just a slinky and a sack of shit in the liquid or gaseous medium of your choice.

[suchmoon]

Gravity is a theory, the force pushing you down is caused by the atmosphere you've displaced.

So things would not fall in vacuum?

[lightlord]

It's been a few years but, it was the last time I played with a slinky if I recall correctly.

Upward tension and bottom gravity cancel each other out, it's not into the information propagates to the bottom that the result is positive and it falls. If you take a really long stick like a 10 miles long and place it in space, and then push on one end, the other end doesn't move instantly, it takes time for the wave to reach the end.

Understanding simple physics would make you not use it as an explanation for a flat earth.

When you go stand on a scale and weigh yourself, that's in relation to the earth's body which is gravity, If the earth wasn't here, and you were in the middle of the void/space there would be no weight. Other examples is airplane zero gravity experiences they do on Earth, where the air pilot puts the airplane in a temporary nosedive towards the ground then swing upwards, creating 0-G where you can float for 15 seconds. If Gravity didn't exist, then why would you float for no reason? Water bubbles become a sphere floating, and so on.

[presduterte]

Very shocking to see the FE provide experiments and measurements and see the science side bring nothing but talk, tantrums and "proof" that can never be proven.  I love the picture of how the galaxy works.  That's the big comeback to the experiments that were done on the FE side?  

I always believed what I was told in school.  This thread is a real eye opener.  

The only way it could possibly be eye-opening is realizing that people exist who are smart enough to know about bitcoin yet dumb enough to entertain the idea that the earth is flat.

This thread has established the following requirements for Flat Earth theory to work:

- NASA is a hoax
- Gravity is a hoax
- Science is a hoax
- Antarctica is a hoax
- The universe is a hoax
- The Coriolis Effect is a hoax
- The education system is a hoax
- The sun, moon and stars are a hoax
- The north and south poles are a hoax
- All of rocketry and flight travel is a hoax

And you replace all of those beliefs with what?

Nothing.

[notbatman]

Gravity is a theory, the force pushing you down is caused by the atmosphere you've displaced.

So things would not fall in vacuum?

In an evacuated chamber aether is the medium being displaced.

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This thread has established the following requirements for the Copernican hoax to be perpetrated en mass.

- NASA creates hoaxes and manufacturers evidence.
- Gravity is hoaxed.
- False scientific claims are made that aren't the result of the scientific method.
- Antarctica as a continent is hoaxed.
- The big-bang universe is hoaxed.
- The Coriolis Effect that's caused by aether drift is framed as if it's caused by Earth rotation.
- The public education system is a fraud.
- The Sun, Moon and stars that are lights in the sky are framed as giant heavy balls, with blue stars as the largest and heaviest.
- The south pole as a rotational axis of a globe is hoaxed.
- All of rocketry and flight travel to outer space is hoaxed.

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FTFY.

[Vod]

Gravity is a theory, the force pushing you down is caused by the atmosphere you've displaced.

So why is the atmosphere pushing you down?

Because of the law of gravity.  (so easy)

When was the last time you/anyone did something where the law did not work as required?

Watch to the end - gravity pulls it down as it always does.

Now you'll ask why the bottom hovers before falling.  Same reason your car rides smooth on a bumpy road - tension.

When the energy in the slinky tension is exhausted, gravity wins.  Gravity always wins.  

  

[Vod]

Badecker's post above is a clear display of a typical jesuit tactics to discredit The Word of God and bring confusion to people which are honestly seeking The Truth.

You and baddie are on the same side.

You're parents may have read from different versions of the bible, but it's the same fairy tale...