[*] 8BIT [Dark Masternodes][Anon][Roadmap Stage 4]

[drays]

I don't care about the value... I just want to see development resume.  

This coin has been stagnant for weeks now.

Offer you have shown is an opportunity to exit (to BCR then to BTC), new development is just an option. Everyone here can buy BCR anytime without looking back at 8BIT... So if you believe BCR is a good investment you should buy BCR. Otherwise if you swap your 8BIT to BCR you will dump those BCR (to BTC) immediately. That's obvious. If any development will happen, it will happen in BCR. So it's not a question of development resume or still being stagnant, it's a question of still being stagnant or end of life of this (8BIT) coin. As you are one of creators of the state we are at this moment your answer will be extremely precious. Share it with us. Thanks!

+100%

Swapping 8BIT to BCR just means killing the 8BIT project. All you get from it - opportunity to get your money back and forget about this small 8bit adventure. If you like BCR, buy BCR. Many people are here because they like the brand, 8BIT games, and their old memories from childhood connected with everything 8bit. That's why this coin still has a community. BCR has none of this, its just another coin, which sure has something to offer, but that has no connection to 8BIT.

Another question is - what other options/offers do he have..? 8bit-party is still here, and he is the right person to run this project... Does it mean something..?

[skidog]

I don't care about the value... I just want to see development resume.  

This coin has been stagnant for weeks now.

Offer you have shown is an opportunity to exit (to BCR then to BTC), new development is just an option. Everyone here can buy BCR anytime without looking back at 8BIT... So if you believe BCR is a good investment you should buy BCR. Otherwise if you swap your 8BIT to BCR you will dump those BCR (to BTC) immediately. That's obvious. If any development will happen, it will happen in BCR. So it's not a question of development resume or still being stagnant, it's a question of still being stagnant or end of life of this (8BIT) coin. As you are one of creators of the state we are at this moment your answer will be extremely precious. Share it with us. Thanks!

+100%

Swapping 8BIT to BCR just means killing the 8BIT project. All you get from it - opportunity to get your money back and forget about this small 8bit adventure. If you like BCR, buy BCR. Many people are here because they like the brand, 8BIT games, and their old memories from childhood connected with everything 8bit. That's why this coin still has a community. BCR has none of this, its just another coin, which sure has something to offer, but that has no connection to 8BIT.

Another question is - what other options/offers do he have..? 8bit-party is still here, and he is the right person to run this project... Does it mean something..?

Patience is the only option at the moment. I would like something to be done, but I can wait for the right time.

[cisahasa]

what is your plans 8-bit?

best one i have redd here is bitcredits offer..
if memory servers me corrretly you were offered better source to use if you want continue this one.
these coins have had so many probems that i gave up with code like these, even dash people could not fix it right.

i also considered bitcredits idea, but i have no time to wait 100% working platform.
so i chose another way..

the rate, it is the big guestion..

[skidog]

what is your plans 8-bit?

best one i have redd here is bitcredits offer..
if memory servers me corrretly you were offered better source to use if you want continue this one.
these coins have had so many probems that i gave up with code like these, even dash people could not fix it right.

i also considered bitcredits idea, but i have no time to wait 100% working platform.
so i chose another way..

the rate, it is the big guestion..

We would all like to know the answer to this question.

[dbt1033]

I don't care about the value... I just want to see development resume.  

This coin has been stagnant for weeks now.

Offer you have shown is an opportunity to exit (to BCR then to BTC), new development is just an option. Everyone here can buy BCR anytime without looking back at 8BIT... So if you believe BCR is a good investment you should buy BCR. Otherwise if you swap your 8BIT to BCR you will dump those BCR (to BTC) immediately. That's obvious. If any development will happen, it will happen in BCR. So it's not a question of development resume or still being stagnant, it's a question of still being stagnant or end of life of this (8BIT) coin. As you are one of creators of the state we are at this moment your answer will be extremely precious. Share it with us. Thanks!

If I were looking to exit, swapping to BCR wouldn't do anything for me.  There isn't enough liquidity in the market to exit profitably. 

I'm not looking to dump.  This is just a hobby of mine.  I've made plenty and lost plenty, as have we all.

I'm in favor of the swap because it's our only option on the table, and at least BCR has very active development/ future potential.

[hack_]

With no real wallet support and no dev..... how long will this last if a unresolveable fork happens?

[8-bit-Party]

With no real wallet support and no dev..... how long will this last if a unresolveable fork happens?

People asked (you) about a rate.

[hack_]

With no real wallet support and no dev..... how long will this last if a unresolveable fork happens?

People asked (you) about a rate.

I do not know

[8-bit-Party]

With no real wallet support and no dev..... how long will this last if a unresolveable fork happens?

People asked (you) about a rate.

I do not know

So what are you doing here?

[cisahasa]

With no real wallet support and no dev..... how long will this last if a unresolveable fork happens?

People asked (you) about a rate.

I do not know

So what are you doing here?

asking the swap rate?

[niki25]

Is the fork currently stopped?
Im not up to date with the ann
Thanks

[skidog]

Is the fork currently stopped?
Im not up to date with the ann
Thanks

What fork...? Didnt know we had a fork. My wallets are working without to many problems.

[Topknotbam]

price 8bit is not good((((

[drays]

price 8bit is not good((((

cool

Not so cool actually

If we continue this way, we may lose the community - the biggest asset of this coin. I am not sure folks are checking this thread anymore...
Is everybody still here..? Give us a shout please!

This could have positive side though. It looks like MTR777 is also out Not that I don't really want him to be here (as to me I would welcome all investors), but this gives us the possibility 8-bit-party could pickup where he dropped, and run the show again .

Among all the options we have (not many, but there still are some), this one looks to be the best to me.

What do we have here?
1. Bitcreditcc offer. I guess it sounded too confusing, and thus did not raise any reaction. He told there is a huge amount of work needed to be done, and he can do it only if it is done as part of work on BCR. But who told this coin should necessarily go in that direction and need all that titanic work? It seems to me, he overcomplicated things, and thus made the task unsolvable. We may not need all those developments he have spoken about, and may need something simpler, moving by small steps and deciding next goal as we go.

2. SLG dev... I like that guy, but what did he do actually? Made some noise here om the thread. Made a lot of changes nobody have seen, then told "hold on everybody, keep quiet, we are working", then disappeared.. Not very convincing, especially taking into account he got 8BIT bounties for this work, which nobody actually have seen or take use of... This is not how things should be done... Where is this changed code, are the changes trackable?

3. MTR... This offer was on table for very long. Not sure it is still valid. But anyway community does not seem to welcome that offer enough, so it is not the best one to pursue...

4. 8-bit-party. Last but definitely not the least. Good progress, was very promising, then turned to a unnecessary drama. It looks like "8-bit-party" is willing to continue the work, if community asks so. He may be what we need here - someone capable, who could move things step by step, utilizing the community help (and we have/had people ready to help here). So what you guys think of this option?

In any case, community members, please speak up, so we know (whether) you are still here!

[bitcreditscc]

price 8bit is not good((((

cool

Not so cool actually

If we continue this way, we may lose the community - the biggest asset of this coin. I am not sure folks are checking this thread anymore...
Is everybody still here..? Give us a shout please!

This could have positive side though. It looks like MTR777 is also out Not that I don't really want him to be here (as to me I would welcome all investors), but this gives us the possibility 8-bit-party could pickup where he dropped, and run the show again .

Among all the options we have (not many, but there still are some), this one looks to be the best to me.

What do we have here?
1. Bitcreditcc offer. I guess it sounded too confusing, and thus did not raise any reaction. He told there is a huge amount of work needed to be done, and he can do it only if it is done as part of work on BCR. But who told this coin should necessarily go in that direction and need all that titanic work? It seems to me, he overcomplicated things, and thus made the task unsolvable. We may not need all those developments he have spoken about, and may need something simpler, moving by small steps and deciding next goal as we go.

2. SLG dev... I like that guy, but what did he do actually? Made some noise here om the thread. Made a lot of changes nobody have seen, then told "hold on everybody, keep quiet, we are working", then disappeared.. Not very convincing, especially taking into account he got 8BIT bounties for this work, which nobody actually have seen or take use of... This is not how things should be done... Where is this changed code, are the changes trackable?

3. MTR... This offer was on table for very long. Not sure it is still valid. But anyway community does not seem to welcome that offer enough, so it is not the best one to pursue...

4. 8-bit-party. Last but definitely not the least. Good progress, was very promising, then turned to a unnecessary drama. It looks like "8-bit-party" is willing to continue the work, if community asks so. He may be what we need here - someone capable, who could move things step by step, utilizing the community help (and we have/had people ready to help here). So what you guys think of this option?

In any case, community members, please speak up, so we know (whether) you are still here!

Let me clear up some of that. I did not complicate anything, i simply laid out what had to be done from a technical point of view to complete the task of MN hosted gaming. I also submitted code to update the code base to a more recent version to those of you who contacted me through PMs and made clear that my time is limited, so i can't pursue this project unless you join BCR. I have since withdrawn my offers and assistance, and as such it does not matter anymore, i wish you all good fortune.

[8-bit-Party]

3. MTR... This offer was on table for very long. Not sure it is still valid. But anyway community does not seem to welcome that offer enough, so it is not the best one to pursue...

Forget about it. MTR is in big trouble (network was successfully 51% attacked, constant delisting warnings because of no volume and so on). Although, yes, that guy really needs our money.

<MasterTrader777> Well I'm the dev of MTR.
<MasterTrader777> can you please read this reply I made to another dev looking to help me...It lists a few things I wish to do with MTR wallet.
<MasterTrader777> wondering if you could provide input, and if so what is your cost to help with such tasks.
<MasterTrader777> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=954240.msg12477976#msg12477976
<MasterTrader777> The main issue now, its ever since MTR broke 200K blocks...the blockchain download speed in the wallet has been too slow for comfort.
<MasterTrader777> I want to change this, and I understand how to change it..but I don't code, haven't coded 1 line throughout this whole project from the start...its just been me using interpersonal skills to drive this puppy home...A true go-getter.
<MasterTrader777> Call me a project manager with the vision and my feet on the peddle but other devs holding the wheel for me.
<Mutsumi> so... pregened...
<MasterTrader777> no way bro
<MasterTrader777> I paid $1500 for this build.
<MasterTrader777> I have the latest QT5 wallet that I just released with a new look and integrated ToshiDesk right into the wallet.
<Mutsumi> that still means... pre-gened... and that you think throwing money at things will make you rich...
<MasterTrader777> No way, I deff don't think that.
<MasterTrader777> I put out way more money than I ever made on this
<MasterTrader777> its about the love of the hustle with this...I don't expect to ever become ROI positive on this project for many years.
<MasterTrader777> and I don't have alot of money to throw at this project anymore..I already spent over $20K in development of MTR and ToshiDesk.
<Mutsumi> people get stuck in their ways trying to tell people they are in it for the long run,
<MasterTrader777> ? Elaborate.
<MasterTrader777> I'm not here trying to sell you on anything..Just asking for help.
<fuzzyhobbit> MasterTrader777: one moment
<MasterTrader777> ok thanks =)
<MasterTrader777> Here is the source - https://github.com/CrypticApplications - I would beg to differ that its pregenned, but maybe I'm wrong.
<fuzzyhobbit> MasterTrader777: it's using pretty dated code
<fuzzyhobbit> you need someone to rebase it on a newer version of bitcoin
<MasterTrader777> Oh wow, I really didn't know. I thought we were pretty updated. How far am I off?
<fuzzyhobbit> looks like bitcoin 0.8.x
<fuzzyhobbit> several major versions behind
<fuzzyhobbit> lots of improvements have been made to more efficiently propagate the blockchain, etc.
<fuzzyhobbit> some pretty major security stuff too
<humanos> be careful  with rebasing though , always read the code, no copy-paste, you might lose some functions you would have wanted to keep
<MasterTrader777> I see so we look pretty dated. Thanks for that input.
<MasterTrader777> What sort of labor hours would go into Rebasing?
<humanos> A LOT
<humanos> rebasing BCR both times took 3 full days work
<fuzzyhobbit> it would be difficult to find someone capable/willing to do it
<MasterTrader777> Understood.
<Mutsumi> hm. That sees to fit the bil l of a pre-gened coin...
<MasterTrader777> This coin was created about 7 months ago...
<fuzzyhobbit> yeah, that makes sense then
<MasterTrader777> Yea it was the most new and stable version of Bitcoin when it was made.
<fuzzyhobbit> ehhh
<MasterTrader777> Since then I've updated the wallet to QT5- but know it still needs work.
<MasterTrader777> So Rebase would be something to look into...
<MasterTrader777> what about the comments I made on that reply to the Grainite Coin dev?
<MasterTrader777> Coin was actually made in Jan.
<fuzzyhobbit> the stuff you want seems possible, but time consuming
<MasterTrader777> Yea, I was told the recode of the QT functions to improve the blockchain download speed via broadcasting the bootstrap would take about 3 days.
<MasterTrader777> The coinomi build would be about a week with Testing. - I was told.
<fuzzyhobbit> lol
<MasterTrader777> At first glance what issues do you see needing the "most" attention?
<fuzzyhobbit> guess who's one of the developers of coinomi?
<MasterTrader777> I'd have to guess you?
<fuzzyhobbit> yeah
<MasterTrader777> Wow, awesome. Yea I spoke to some of the devs in email back and forth for a week...He ended up approving me for the GitHub access with everything step by step to do it...
<MasterTrader777> The APK build I was told is a good part of the work load. I also see Ruby Coin on Coinomi...so I figure you understand it well.
<MasterTrader777> What type of time frame are you thinking for such a build for MTR?
<fuzzyhobbit> rebasing your coin is the solution to your blockchain speed troubles
<fuzzyhobbit> not any qt functions
<fuzzyhobbit> anything else is just a band-aid that probably won't work anyways
<fuzzyhobbit> it's up to whoever you're working with to push the changes to coinomi and we will include it in the next build
<fuzzyhobbit> your developer will have to submit the changes and then we include it in the next build
<fuzzyhobbit> we occasionally add coins ourselves, but they are usually high demand, high market cap, highly traded
<MasterTrader777> Could I pay you to add it?
<MasterTrader777> MTR isn't traded that heavily yet...but the potential is certainly there.
<MasterTrader777> We put over 800 hours into ToshiDesk already.
<MasterTrader777> Just wrapping up with the ETNA charting module build...and have over 600 markets on it...adding more is simple at this point.
<MasterTrader777> Getting on Coinomi will help me get in the door with ShapeShift.
<fuzzyhobbit> shapeshift won't even add rubycoin
<MasterTrader777> Then all Users will be able to pay for ToshiDesk using any currency they want ( hosted within Shapeshift )
<fuzzyhobbit> you know about coinomi's in wallet exchanging? it uses shapeshift
<MasterTrader777> I have Stripe / American Express / Bitcoin / MTR / Credit Cards / currently as a payment option.
<MasterTrader777> Yea I know it uses ShapeShift.
<MasterTrader777> but...
<MasterTrader777> I thought your coin needed to be included within ShapeShifts hosted coins for that to work...
<MasterTrader777> Honestly...that part confused me....but you see were I want to drive...just need better directions is to how that in wallet exchanging works.
<fuzzyhobbit> yeah, if a coin isn't on shapeshift then the in-wallet exchanging won't work
<MasterTrader777> Yea thats what I thought...It was a tease when reading...lol
<MasterTrader777> I appreciate the dev chat...It might not mean much to you..but I certainly gain from it.
<fuzzyhobbit> np
<MasterTrader777> I figure Coinomi is atleast an attempt to get closer to shapeshift.
<MasterTrader777> I contact ShapeShift monthly.
<MasterTrader777> I speak to Emily...she always knows its me too.lol
<fuzzyhobbit> MarketCap Rubycoin position: 32, cap_USD: 1061121.97199, cap_BTC: 4598.69085807, MoneySupply: 22259557, price_usd: 0.0476704, price_btc: 0.000206594
<fuzzyhobbit> they still haven't added ruby
<MasterTrader777> I blow up the thread weekly...
<MasterTrader777> I hear bugging them helps.
<MasterTrader777> I also heard they have this certain email they give out to purposely have people spam ask for addition
<MasterTrader777> It pisses me off..because TRON got added...and now its dead. It was a scam from the get go too.
<fuzzyhobbit> opal got added too
<fuzzyhobbit> then removed a few weeks later
<MasterTrader777> Yea. The Opal Dev went on a fudding spree for weeks in my thread...little 14 year old kid.
<fuzzyhobbit> they used to be rubycoin fans
<fuzzyhobbit> then decided to create their own gem
<MasterTrader777> I was trying to get MTR on the SuperNet...I added everyone in the slack to my thread...
<fuzzyhobbit> and then rubycoin shot up to 1mil+ market cap without them
<MasterTrader777> it only pissed 50% of them off..lol
<MasterTrader777> Yeah you guys are doing well.
<MasterTrader777> Congratz.
<fuzzyhobbit> thank much appreciated!
<fuzzyhobbit> thanks*
<fuzzyhobbit> MasterTrader777: https://coinomi.com/AddingSupportForANewCurrency/
<fuzzyhobbit> bookmark it, has all the info needed to get added
<MasterTrader777> Thanks!
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[allZuckedUp]

Well, I'm still here, although not posting much these days...

It seems to me 8-bit-Party is certainly the most viable direction to go.  And I like the idea of 8bit still being an independant coin rather than cashing it into another coin with it's own problems and issues, especially while 8bit's trading value is low...

Also, with 8bit currently trading at .00003'ish, IF we could really get this ball rolling again, I'd start BUYING more 8bit as opposed to just generating it with my MNs and staking my current stash.  The interesting thing about this price crash, is the raw amount of money to be made here by all of us if we/8-bit-Party can resurrect this project.

So, if he's willing, my vote is clearly for the 8-bit-Party adventure.

[blooding_sorrow]

My voice is also for 8-bit-Party...

[drays]

I am synching my wallet and see a lot of messages like this in the log:

SetBestChain: new best=8e75b169f6acda24fa52b74d9094210a3e9f9500e49d86a53ac58bdf55ebb3d4  height=236356  trust=4701434504281326422  blocktrust=40106064093431  date=10/20/15 05:00:32
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 236356 8e75b169f6acda24fa52b74d9094210a3e9f9500e49d86a53ac58bdf55ebb3d4
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK 24, prev=c9649291acb3da5441a6e6185a4c0fb0b48da981ce3c30342c67376a481b6292
SetBestChain: new best=96c64c8b59e18840d732add9794948f2c457b3e502fd5c79bbcf1c617b48f4a3  height=236357  trust=4701480339825856144  blocktrust=45835544529722  date=10/20/15 05:02:08
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 236357 96c64c8b59e18840d732add9794948f2c457b3e502fd5c79bbcf1c617b48f4a3
SetBestChain: new best=b8c1a19d06ca3270b988c855c78bf310d087875c72fe5b2d6fb53082fc5f9be5  height=236358  trust=4701523479206021411  blocktrust=43139380165267  date=10/20/15 05:04:32
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 236358 b8c1a19d06ca3270b988c855c78bf310d087875c72fe5b2d6fb53082fc5f9be5
ping timeout: 1200.000005s
SetBestChain: new best=4f1b43fd7c322bb52f08c206a8d9fdaf14dd1ab07ed63332e9e7221c30f795a2  height=236359  trust=4701560788996814499  blocktrust=37309790793088  date=10/20/15 05:04:32
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 236359 4f1b43fd7c322bb52f08c206a8d9fdaf14dd1ab07ed63332e9e7221c30f795a2
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 236335 5b7fa170588b24fd7e9a5786effb00435774aae46b8e2b7cb85ddee9d72f65bd
SetBestChain: new best=63fdbec5d5c50ead871e1cd59afb2c92e14e55bcd1d02914f6ef0bef4f16164e  height=236360  trust=4701603428794681692  blocktrust=42639797867193  date=10/20/15 05:05:04
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 236336 6e1969519f89bcebec0530480b2ac6d89195427815a0990bdf6a043e9f355ef0
receive version message: version 60020, blocks=237181, us=46.101.151.114:37309, them=37.59.100.66:18888, peer=37.59.100.66:18888
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 236360 63fdbec5d5c50ead871e1cd59afb2c92e14e55bcd1d02914f6ef0bef4f16164e

Does it mean the network is about to be forked? Or maybe already have forked?

[8-bit-Party]

Nothing to worry about

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1382