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Author Topic: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life?  (Read 164007 times)
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June 29, 2015, 04:48:32 PM
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sounds like unfair if you say in the end the casino owners guaranteed win, nobody will gamble .

House edge is there to ensure the house will be floating on average profit of the house edge.To be honest, the world is never a fair place to begin with so whats the fuss about it? Simply dont gamble if you dont want to make a casino owner richer but apparantly there will be always a gambler. People make a gambling site to "win" not to give away because they are not a charity site.

its just the matter of time, if you playing continously i'll make sure you will busted.

Not always and there are plenty of people that is still floating with 100 BTC profit in PrimeDice and you do see them gamble there daily. This is a fallacy to believe that everyone will bust eventually. Truth is, the house will always gain profit eventually in the longer run which you can check at every site around here because most of them are having profit on average of their house edge (more than house edge)

time management required to make steady income in gamble.

Time management? perhaps it is much like financial management, time has nothing to do with gambling

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June 29, 2015, 05:49:33 PM
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I cant follow what youre trying to say here; my point is that casinos, online or RL, are designed to make the owners money in the long run. secondly, it is rare for someone's life to be "fixed" by gambling; first off, why would someone be gambling if they need to fix their life?

you said "lets compare it to real life: blackjack tables at winstar casinos have a 0.50 USD charge to play a hand. over the long run, even if the tables are breakeven, the casinos will have made money from the play fees."
and then i compare it by ask for how about casinos online gamble? what are they charge? charged by the house edge? casinos online winning is the house edge?
so we have a chance to win it everyday, as long as you have a financial management.
well, mentation each people is different. i think people gambling to reach the final goal, fixes life!
and you think another


the problem is, people always want to keep winning, and when we start losing, we try to recover our losses, end end up digging ourselves further into the pit. "cashing out" is very much easier said than done.

this is where the financial management have a role, you will just throw your money without financial management.


 
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June 29, 2015, 06:02:17 PM
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it does neither. I'm lucky because I got myself to stop* gambling before it wreck my life. tho I did leave 1.35BTC+ behind  Sad

*I don't mean that stopped gambling entirely. it just means that I rarely does and I think thrice before betting 0.002BTC
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June 29, 2015, 06:06:53 PM
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Yeah gambling proved very helpful every time when i gamble, Like few month bank i transfered .3 to a gambling site, which a lost, then i decided never to gamble, yesterday again i gamble and lost .02 btc then again it fixes my life Grin

That is good and you are actually lucky you experience losses, some take a nice win on their first few attempts and that plants the seed of thinking they can win and they want the feeling of them wins. You have had it good losing just a little to learn.
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June 29, 2015, 06:11:05 PM
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I cant follow what youre trying to say here; my point is that casinos, online or RL, are designed to make the owners money in the long run. secondly, it is rare for someone's life to be "fixed" by gambling; first off, why would someone be gambling if they need to fix their life?

you said "lets compare it to real life: blackjack tables at winstar casinos have a 0.50 USD charge to play a hand. over the long run, even if the tables are breakeven, the casinos will have made money from the play fees."
and then i compare it by ask for how about casinos online gamble? what are they charge? charged by the house edge? casinos online winning is the house edge?
so we have a chance to win it everyday, as long as you have a financial management.
well, mentation each people is different. i think people gambling to reach the final goal, fixes life!
and you think another


the problem is, people always want to keep winning, and when we start losing, we try to recover our losses, end end up digging ourselves further into the pit. "cashing out" is very much easier said than done.

this is where the financial management have a role, you will just throw your money without financial management.



thats exactly what i said; the house edge is what gives the casino owners the advantage. I really dont see why youre getting angry over a few words when im trying to just add to the conversation. also, I say gambling doesn't "fix" people's lives because in comparison to the people who win big at casinos, there are far more who lose. If one really sees gambling as the medium to "fix one's life" and make that a goal, then I would say that individual has a gambling addiction, as that makes it seem as that person's life revolves around gambling, and their success in life is wholly dependent on gambling.

im getting the impression that there is a language barrier here and youre getting the wrong impression from my responses.

theres nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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June 29, 2015, 06:20:17 PM
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what are they charge? charged by the house edge? casinos online winning is the house edge?

Seriously, you should learn stuff about house edge . House edge is an average of casino profits from the wager amount. So if a site has 1 % house and 100 BTC wagered amount then the site will have around 1 BTC in profit more or less because there isnt a way to know how much online casino earned unless they have an investment feature but if they are privately funded then this data is closed to the public and we can only GUESS roughly which is by using house edge

Here , you can check on this sites to know wether a site profit is floating around the 1 % house edge or not http://dicesites.com/


this is where the financial management have a role, you will just throw your money without financial management.

Err this is my words? I thought you said time management before? (meant this for sarcasm)

P.S : please use google translator to fix some of your words because "mentation each people" is not english at all? ( I dont get what this mean)

mentation each people is different

im getting the impression that there is a language barrier here and youre getting the wrong impression from my responses.

Not only language barrier but apparently this guy has no knowledge about house edge and stuff which makes him getting the wrong impression.

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June 29, 2015, 06:42:19 PM
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I don't have a gambling problem but I have had other impulse control issues ,my advice if you are spending more than you can afford to lose I think you need outside support with this, it is not going to be something you can do alone.
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June 29, 2015, 06:47:53 PM
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House edge is there to ensure the house will be floating on average profit of the house edge.To be honest, the world is never a fair place to begin with so whats the fuss about it? Simply dont gamble if you dont want to make a casino owner richer but apparantly there will be always a gambler. People make a gambling site to "win" not to give away because they are not a charity site.

i know , and i often hear explanation like this. "People make a gambling site to "win" not to give away because they are not a charity site."

if its 100% true, so all gambler was fool , they didnt know gambling site made for suck their money or even they knows gambling site/casinos owner always win and they keep playing.
are you fool arallmuus? no way, absolutely not.
everything depend on how we react to it.


Not always and there are plenty of people that is still floating with 100 BTC profit in PrimeDice and you do see them gamble there daily. This is a fallacy to believe that everyone will bust eventually. Truth is, the house will always gain profit eventually in the longer run which you can check at every site around here because most of them are having profit on average of their house edge (more than house edge)

"continously" what i mean is playing straight at one time until your pocket was empty. is not like what you said. i know about that.
is having profit on average of house edge do wrong?


Time management? perhaps it is much like financial management, time has nothing to do with gambling

ah yeah thats what i mean, a financial management.

 
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House edge is there to ensure the house will be floating on average profit of the house edge.To be honest, the world is never a fair place to begin with so whats the fuss about it? Simply dont gamble if you dont want to make a casino owner richer but apparantly there will be always a gambler. People make a gambling site to "win" not to give away because they are not a charity site.

if its 100% true, so all gambler was fool

It is true and people make a gambling site to get a profit, why do you think people make a gambling site on the firsthand anyway? Also that even if the house will always be in profit on the long run it doesnt mean that all their player will be in negative

As for the bolded part, NO, not all gamblers are fools but YOU ARE because you keep getting the wrong idea that every gambler will lose but in fact not everyone will lose in gambling.


Not always and there are plenty of people that is still floating with 100 BTC profit in PrimeDice and you do see them gamble there daily. This is a fallacy to believe that everyone will bust eventually. Truth is, the house will always gain profit eventually in the longer run which you can check at every site around here because most of them are having profit on average of their house edge (more than house edge)

"continously" what i mean is playing straight at one time

You sir need a GOOGLE TRANSLATOR indeed because apparently we have a very different meaning on what "continuously" means and I do believe I got the right meaning of it which means that you need to check up dictionaries or some translator

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June 29, 2015, 07:38:43 PM
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thats exactly what i said; the house edge is what gives the casino owners the advantage. I really dont see why youre getting angry over a few words when im trying to just add to the conversation. also, I say gambling doesn't "fix" people's lives because in comparison to the people who win big at casinos, there are far more who lose. If one really sees gambling as the medium to "fix one's life" and make that a goal, then I would say that individual has a gambling addiction, as that makes it seem as that person's life revolves around gambling, and their success in life is wholly dependent on gambling.

im getting the impression that there is a language barrier here and youre getting the wrong impression from my responses.

ahh now i thought you were wrong response , you were misunderstanding. im not angry. am i looks angry with words like that?
my apologize due to my bad language.

i know people who lose in the casino is much more than win , and its a choice. are you gonna be a loser? or a winner?
wanna be a winner? make a plan/strategies and learn.


It is true and people make a gambling site to get a profit, why do you think people make a gambling site on the firsthand anyway? Also that even if the house will always be in profit on the long run it doesnt mean that all their player will be in negative

i know i know, i understand all what you said. i know even the house on neg profit, players will not always lost .


As for the bolded part, NO, not all gamblers are fools but YOU ARE because you keep getting the wrong idea that every gambler will lose but in fact not everyone will lose in gambling.

i didnt said everyone will always lose in gambling, which part of my words that i said like that?
and well no problem you call me fool or whatever.
i just enjoying this discussion

Not always and there are plenty of people that is still floating with 100 BTC profit in PrimeDice and you do see them gamble there daily. This is a fallacy to believe that everyone will bust eventually. Truth is, the house will always gain profit eventually in the longer run which you can check at every site around here because most of them are having profit on average of their house edge (more than house edge)

"continously" what i mean is playing straight at one time
You sir need a GOOGLE TRANSLATOR indeed because apparently we have a very different meaning on what "continuously" means and I do believe I got the right meaning of it which means that you need to check up dictionaries or some translator

as you said im fool, so i cant write correctly. i dont know GOOGLE TRANSLATOR because, you know im fool.
sorry if my words was bad.

 
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i didnt said everyone will always lose in gambling, which part of my words that i said like that?


right here actually:


you should really follow arallmus's suggestion and use google translate, im having a real hard time deciphering what youre trying to say.

also. before engaging in this topic further, you should at least read up on some of the casino basics, the house edge in particular, you seem n aware of it but basically, its what gives the online casinos an advantage: ie in a high/low game, plays can win only above 50.5 and under 49.5, the space between these two values is an auto lose, hence the house's edge to give it +EV.

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i didnt said everyone will always lose in gambling, which part of my words that i said like that?


right here actually:


also this words below shows that he said everyone will lose in the end. He keeps on twisting his own words it seems  Smiley

its just the matter of time, if you playing continously i'll make sure you will busted.
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June 29, 2015, 10:06:57 PM
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i didnt said everyone will always lose in gambling, which part of my words that i said like that?


right here actually:


you should really follow arallmus's suggestion and use google translate, im having a real hard time deciphering what youre trying to say.

also. before engaging in this topic further, you should at least read up on some of the casino basics, the house edge in particular, you seem n aware of it but basically, its what gives the online casinos an advantage: ie in a high/low game, plays can win only above 50.5 and under 49.5, the space between these two values is an auto lose, hence the house's edge to give it +EV.

i did it, and im so sorry for my bad english. i know it make confused and misleading.
i do learn a little about what is house edge , what is +EV how it works etc.
back to the topic, about you think i said everyone will lose in gambling

here is my clarification


"continously" what i mean is playing straight at one time .


 
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June 30, 2015, 06:12:07 AM
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House edge is there to ensure the house will be floating on average profit of the house edge.To be honest, the world is never a fair place to begin with so whats the fuss about it? Simply dont gamble if you dont want to make a casino owner richer but apparantly there will be always a gambler. People make a gambling site to "win" not to give away because they are not a charity site.

i know , and i often hear explanation like this. "People make a gambling site to "win" not to give away because they are not a charity site."

if its 100% true, so all gambler was fool , they didnt know gambling site made for suck their money or even they knows gambling site/casinos owner always win and they keep playing.
are you fool arallmuus? no way, absolutely not.
everything depend on how we react to it.


Not always and there are plenty of people that is still floating with 100 BTC profit in PrimeDice and you do see them gamble there daily. This is a fallacy to believe that everyone will bust eventually. Truth is, the house will always gain profit eventually in the longer run which you can check at every site around here because most of them are having profit on average of their house edge (more than house edge)

"continously" what i mean is playing straight at one time until your pocket was empty. is not like what you said. i know about that.
is having profit on average of house edge do wrong?


Time management? perhaps it is much like financial management, time has nothing to do with gambling

ah yeah thats what i mean, a financial management.

Yes I agree with your post. But I think the reason why many gamblers lose is due to greed and emotions.

If every casino was called a charity, would people deposit any money? No they wouldn't. They deposit to win some money.
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June 30, 2015, 08:38:58 AM
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House edge is there to ensure the house will be floating on average profit of the house edge.To be honest, the world is never a fair place to begin with so whats the fuss about it? Simply dont gamble if you dont want to make a casino owner richer but apparantly there will be always a gambler. People make a gambling site to "win" not to give away because they are not a charity site.

i know , and i often hear explanation like this. "People make a gambling site to "win" not to give away because they are not a charity site."

if its 100% true, so all gambler was fool , they didnt know gambling site made for suck their money or even they knows gambling site/casinos owner always win and they keep playing.
are you fool arallmuus? no way, absolutely not.
everything depend on how we react to it.


Not always and there are plenty of people that is still floating with 100 BTC profit in PrimeDice and you do see them gamble there daily. This is a fallacy to believe that everyone will bust eventually. Truth is, the house will always gain profit eventually in the longer run which you can check at every site around here because most of them are having profit on average of their house edge (more than house edge)

"continously" what i mean is playing straight at one time until your pocket was empty. is not like what you said. i know about that.
is having profit on average of house edge do wrong?


Time management? perhaps it is much like financial management, time has nothing to do with gambling

ah yeah thats what i mean, a financial management.

Yes I agree with your post. But I think the reason why many gamblers lose is due to greed and emotions.

If every casino was called a charity, would people deposit any money? No they wouldn't. They deposit to win some money.

Not really? I mean of course everyone deposits money to dice sites to win money, no one plays dice for fun but you dont call that greed. Greed and emotions wont affect your bet results, the only thing greed can do is make you come back after loosing to lose more which is what gambling addicts do

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June 30, 2015, 08:57:45 AM
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As far as I knew chance lesson when I learned on math elementary grade, possible for a gambler to win is low and yes everyone can see the fact only a few can be very very lucky to win the prize and some others loss with depression. This attitude must be stay away and need some support from their family before the worst thing happen
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June 30, 2015, 09:05:04 AM
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Gambling destroyed my life.I lost control over how much time and money I used to spend gambling.When I was in the nascent stage of being a gamster I had mixed feeling about it.Thats why I never stopped!
I took loans so that I can never stip rolling. I still have to  repay a loan worth 5 BTC!
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June 30, 2015, 09:38:16 AM
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Gambling destroyed my life.I lost control over how much time and money I used to spend gambling.When I was in the nascent stage of being a gamster I had mixed feeling about it.Thats why I never stopped!
I took loans so that I can never stip rolling. I still have to  repay a loan worth 5 BTC!

Well in this case you should find some resource to get hold of this.  Undecided get some help buddy!

In my very honest opinion, gambling neither fixes your life nor wrecks it... as far as its taken lightly, and solely for fun. I know some people who try make a living out of it???
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June 30, 2015, 11:06:48 AM
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Gambling destroyed my life.I lost control over how much time and money I used to spend gambling.When I was in the nascent stage of being a gamster I had mixed feeling about it.Thats why I never stopped!
I took loans so that I can never stip rolling. I still have to  repay a loan worth 5 BTC!
ouch. that is bad bro.
you should try and control your gambling habits. one of my friends is like you and he had the same problem a while back where he borrowed some money to gamble, and he lost it all.

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for me gambling is fun....well maybe 2-3 times in my life it was more than just fun Cheesy

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