Cricket match prediction discussions

[Maady]

Well sorry if it came out wrong , I wasn't telling Sri Lankan team is the worst , I just compared Aussies to Sri Lankan team . They have the grit but wasn't able to do anything .

No need to be sorry my friend.

Anyway, well done Indian Team. Record is a record.

no one will remember who played.

True! You summed it up all beautifully. after 20-30 years, no one going to remember who played in this test series. except for the result.

Everyone forgot What happened in 2007-08 series and moved on.

Monkey Gate?

I'm sorry to say but I don't agree with this, in 20-30 years from now I still think people will remember that one of the best batsman in the world at the time of this test series in Smith wasn't playing for Australia and that one of the best opening batsman in the world Warner was also not playing. Don't forget that this ball tampering from the three Australian guys will always be remembered due to it was the biggest thing to happen in Australian cricket so I believe everyone will remember that in this test series where India beat Australia on home soil that two of Australia's best batsman were not playing. Like I have been saying if they were playing it would of been a different story and the series would of been a lot closer then it was.

On lighter note: In India's defence India Played with KL Rahul-Murali Vijay and Ravi shashtri was in dressing room. still we manage to win  

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

It's boring day for the cricket fans. On the Jan 11^th we have two match. The third test between SA and Pakistan. I am sure Pakistan is going to lose another one. The performance they showed already in the field can conclude this decision that SA are going to win.

It will be interesting to see the T20 between New Zealand and Sri Lanka. I am hoping Sri Lanka will be a very different team for the T20. They need to forget about the ODIs.

[Maady]

It's boring day for the cricket fans. On the Jan 11^th we have two match. The third test between SA and Pakistan. I am sure Pakistan is going to lose another one. The performance they showed already in the field can conclude this decision that SA are going to win.

It will be interesting to see the T20 between New Zealand and Sri Lanka. I am hoping Sri Lanka will be a very different team for the T20. They need to forget about the ODIs.

Hard to follow each and every match in between classes, work, crypto so i will stick with t-20 format. Pakistan already lost the series its dead match now.

[JSRAW]

I'm sorry to say but I don't agree with this, in 20-30 years from now I still think people will remember that one of the best batsman in the world at the time of this test series in Smith wasn't playing for Australia and that one of the best opening batsman in the world Warner was also not playing. Don't forget that this ball tampering from the three Australian guys will always be remembered due to it was the biggest thing to happen in Australian cricket so I believe everyone will remember that in this test series where India beat Australia on home soil that two of Australia's best batsman were not playing. Like I have been saying if they were playing it would of been a different story and the series would of been a lot closer then it was.

I am sorry for the confusion. It came out because of the Indian perspective and in the Indian context. I stand by it.

Yes, you are right no one will forget them. And If by any chance you guys forget this then English and South African will remind you for sure that why did they not play in this series.

I 100% agree that it would of have been a different story. Having said that now it's effortless to say this for us because results are out. That's another debate that they could face Indian pacer line up or not. I am not sure about Warner due to his poor form ( will back my statement with stats), but Smith can surely tackle them.

If you remember our previous discussion. This one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1135451.msg47442724#msg47442724 I was against one year ban( 5-6 test ban was enough) If it wasn't for one year ban then they would be playing last 2 test against India if I am not mistaken.

I mentioned earlier about both batting line up struggle and bench strength here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1135451.msg47952602#msg47952602

Before this series, we were saying that both batting lineups are struggling badly. Be it India or Australia. But in this tour Indian batters played well and won the series. Special mention to team management. who dropped both their top order batsmen and one promising batsman (Prithvi Shaw) got injured.

It's not an easy task to do in the middle of the tour. Bringing Mayank was the brave call or moving middle order batsman to top order, and Debutant Mayank grabbed this opportunity by both hands. But it shows that India got strong bench strength which Australia Lacks by miles right now. this is the main reason IMHO.

Couple of points I raised in reply to your post previously about the pitch. guess you missed it?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1135451.msg49055891#msg49055891

I pulled up some records of David Warner and Smith.
2017 against India

David warner 38,10, 33,17,19,14,56,6

Steve Smith  27, 109, 8,28,178,21,111,17

Smith was in good form but David Warner not really. Brainfade incident was limelight in this series. kohli said in interview with stress that he saw Oz team doing this 2 times by himself and pointed out this with the umpire but no one really believed him.

Ashes series

Steve Smith was on fire and his peak during the Ashes but Warner didn't perform well according to his reputation despite playing in the home.


South Africa Tour

David Warner: 51 , 28, 63, 13, 30, 32

Smith :56, 38, 25, 11, 5,7

As you can see pretty average tour for both but my concern here is David Warner due to his form.

Rest is history!

[Pffrt]

It will be interesting to see the T20 between New Zealand and Sri Lanka. I am hoping Sri Lanka will be a very different team for the T20. They need to forget about the ODIs.

Exactly. That's what I also think and mentioned earlier in my post. Srilanka will put their best effort to win since they have lost the test and ODI series. Also, the current Srilankan team is quite good for t20 format.

[absy]

It will be interesting to see the T20 between New Zealand and Sri Lanka. I am hoping Sri Lanka will be a very different team for the T20. They need to forget about the ODIs.

Exactly. That's what I also think and mentioned earlier in my post. Srilanka will put their best effort to win since they have lost the test and ODI series. Also, the current Srilankan team is quite good for t20 format.

Agreed , when it comes to T20 , I guess both the teams are equal in strength . Perera should be pushed up though , if they don't utilize him well then its a waste of a talent . He should be atleast sent 2nd down , he can change matches with his current form.

[JSRAW]

It will be interesting to see the T20 between New Zealand and Sri Lanka. I am hoping Sri Lanka will be a very different team for the T20. They need to forget about the ODIs.

Exactly. That's what I also think and mentioned earlier in my post. Srilanka will put their best effort to win since they have lost the test and ODI series. Also, the current Srilankan team is quite good for t20 format.

Agreed , when it comes to T20 , I guess both the teams are equal in strength . Perera should be pushed up though , if they don't utilize him well then its a waste of a talent . He should be atleast sent 2nd down , he can change matches with his current form.

Perera has done a good job, no doubt, lets see if he continues his form. Better select proper team & combination before the T20 on 11th of January get a consolation victory. It has to admit that the Sri Lankan cricket team passing very crucial time, seems look like a hopeless team this is they never win any matches. Should working at the bowling, batting department.

Did they announce the team for 20-20? I didn't find any details.

Anyway, well done Indian Team. Record is a record.

no one will remember who played.

True! You summed it up all beautifully. after 20-30 years, no one going to remember who played in this test series. except for the result.

Everyone forgot What happened in 2007-08 series and moved on.

Monkey Gate?

Monkey gate was the final nail on the coffin before that bad umpiring special nomination Buckner-Benson. No game spirit whatsoever in this series. not going into many details. it was an ugly series in the end.

[Raja_MBZ]

Anyway, well done Indian Team. Record is a record.

no one will remember who played.

True! You summed it up all beautifully. after 20-30 years, no one going to remember who played in this test series. except for the result.

Everyone forgot What happened in 2007-08 series and moved on.

I'm sorry to say but I don't agree with this, in 20-30 years from now I still think people will remember that one of the best batsman in the world at the time of this test series in Smith wasn't playing for Australia and that one of the best opening batsman in the world Warner was also not playing. Don't forget that this ball tampering from the three Australian guys will always be remembered due to it was the biggest thing to happen in Australian cricket so I believe everyone will remember that in this test series where India beat Australia on home soil that two of Australia's best batsman were not playing. Like I have been saying if they were playing it would of been a different story and the series would of been a lot closer then it was.

I totally agree with that. This test series between Australia and India was completely tasteless without Warner and Smith. India might succeed again in winning the upcoming ODI series against Australia, but for the Indian team, that should not be something to be *very* proud of.

[vella85]

I'm sorry to say but I don't agree with this, in 20-30 years from now I still think people will remember that one of the best batsman in the world at the time of this test series in Smith wasn't playing for Australia and that one of the best opening batsman in the world Warner was also not playing. Don't forget that this ball tampering from the three Australian guys will always be remembered due to it was the biggest thing to happen in Australian cricket so I believe everyone will remember that in this test series where India beat Australia on home soil that two of Australia's best batsman were not playing. Like I have been saying if they were playing it would of been a different story and the series would of been a lot closer then it was.

I am sorry for the confusion. It came out because of the Indian perspective and in the Indian context. I stand by it.

Yes, you are right no one will forget them. And If by any chance you guys forget this then English and South African will remind you for sure that why did they not play in this series.

I 100% agree that it would of have been a different story. Having said that now it's effortless to say this for us because results are out. That's another debate that they could face Indian pacer line up or not. I am not sure about Warner due to his poor form ( will back my statement with stats), but Smith can surely tackle them.

If you remember our previous discussion. This one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1135451.msg47442724#msg47442724 I was against one year ban( 5-6 test ban was enough) If it wasn't for one year ban then they would be playing last 2 test against India if I am not mistaken.

I mentioned earlier about both batting line up struggle and bench strength here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1135451.msg47952602#msg47952602

Before this series, we were saying that both batting lineups are struggling badly. Be it India or Australia. But in this tour Indian batters played well and won the series. Special mention to team management. who dropped both their top order batsmen and one promising batsman (Prithvi Shaw) got injured.

It's not an easy task to do in the middle of the tour. Bringing Mayank was the brave call or moving middle order batsman to top order, and Debutant Mayank grabbed this opportunity by both hands. But it shows that India got strong bench strength which Australia Lacks by miles right now. this is the main reason IMHO.

Couple of points I raised in reply to your post previously about the pitch. guess you missed it?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1135451.msg49055891#msg49055891

I pulled up some records of David Warner and Smith.
2017 against India

David warner 38,10, 33,17,19,14,56,6

Steve Smith  27, 109, 8,28,178,21,111,17

Smith was in good form but David Warner not really. Brainfade incident was limelight in this series. kohli said in interview with stress that he saw Oz team doing this 2 times by himself and pointed out this with the umpire but no one really believed him.

Ashes series

Steve Smith was on fire and his peak during the Ashes but Warner didn't perform well according to his reputation despite playing in the home.


South Africa Tour

David Warner: 51 , 28, 63, 13, 30, 32

Smith :56, 38, 25, 11, 5,7

As you can see pretty average tour for both but my concern here is David Warner due to his form.

Rest is history!

I agree with everything you said here and I also called this series a long way out once the ban was set for the three Australian players that the Indian tour of Australia will be India's big chance at winning a test series in Australia and it has happened. However I was not expecting the Indian pace attack to play the way they did, I said that it would be the Australian pace attack that is the strongest but I was wrong with this as the Indian bowlers out preformed the Australian bowlers in this series. I also think people are forgetting that the Australian batting line up had only two experienced players in Usman Khawaja and Shaun Marsh but even then these two players have been in and out of the Australia team for years now. India still had a solid batting line up compared to Australia. Maady mentioned that India played with kl rahul murali vijay, well Australia had the same at the top of the order with two inexperienced batsman. We can all go on about this forever, I'm just saying that the series would of been a lot closer if Australia had Warner, Smith and Bandcroft playing.  
 

[Pffrt]

Did they announce the team for 20-20? I didn't find any details.

I didn't get any update till now. Newzealand all rounder Neesham will be missing because of his injury. I think it's a big loss for Kiwi team. He was in form too.
By the way, I don't think there will be a big change in Srilankan team for t20 than ODI. Almost all of them will be played in t20 too.

[3kpk3]

Anyway, well done Indian Team. Record is a record.

no one will remember who played.

True! You summed it up all beautifully. after 20-30 years, no one going to remember who played in this test series. except for the result.

Everyone forgot What happened in 2007-08 series and moved on.

I'm sorry to say but I don't agree with this, in 20-30 years from now I still think people will remember that one of the best batsman in the world at the time of this test series in Smith wasn't playing for Australia and that one of the best opening batsman in the world Warner was also not playing. Don't forget that this ball tampering from the three Australian guys will always be remembered due to it was the biggest thing to happen in Australian cricket so I believe everyone will remember that in this test series where India beat Australia on home soil that two of Australia's best batsman were not playing. Like I have been saying if they were playing it would of been a different story and the series would of been a lot closer then it was.

I totally agree with that. This test series between Australia and India was completely tasteless without Warner and Smith. India might succeed again in winning the upcoming ODI series against Australia, but for the Indian team, that should not be something to be *very* proud of.

Completely tasteless? Not something to be proud of? Lol. Who are you? You clearly represent the pathetic minority who feel that India did not deserve this win.

Majority of the world including me applaud India since this is a monumental achievement etched in the record books. Virat Kohli has transformed successfully from a brash young guy to a capable captain who has successfully carried the Indian team forward after taking the reins from Dhoni.

Warner and Smith have had their images tarnished because of their own stupidity and time will tell if they can fix their images or not.

[Little Mouse]

Completely tasteless? Not something to be proud of? Lol. Who are you? You clearly represent the pathetic minority who feel that India did not deserve this win.

Majority of the world including me applaud India since this is a monumental achievement etched in the record books. Virat Kohli has transformed successfully from a brash young guy to a capable captain who has successfully carried the Indian team forward after taking the reins from Dhoni.

Warner and Smith have had their images tarnished because of their own stupidity and time will tell if they can fix their images or not.

Possibly it's because they perosonally don't like Indian Cricket team. If Warner and Smith played, there would be a good fight fir sure but still India would win. If you have a look, Indian batsman didn't face a big issue while batting. Australian bowlers were not successful while Indians were. So, nothing big would happen. India would win.

[Maady]

Special mention to team management.

I thought you used to hate them? changing sides now lol  

Monkey gate was the final nail on the coffin before that bad umpiring special nomination Buckner-Benson. No game spirit whatsoever in this series. not going into many details. it was an ugly series in the end.

I have little knowledge except monkey gate. will check this one.

[MinerHQ]

IPL 2019 is finalized to be played in India and the opener and last match would be played at Chennai as they had won the IPL finals last year. Due to elections in the country it was quite unclear what will happen but now they cleared the air of happening it in India itself. The schedule will be out in Feb .

All players will be making a good sum of money from this series.
Many of these matches are mostly fixed so bet only a small amount which you can afford to lose and enjoy the fun.
They will try to keep all the league matches very interesting to attract more and more viewers.
I don't like to bet on these IPL matches because very hard to predict the results. I prefer to bet on international matches because those are easy to guess.

[Pffrt]

IPL 2019 is finalized to be played in India and the opener and last match would be played at Chennai as they had won the IPL finals last year. Due to elections in the country it was quite unclear what will happen but now they cleared the air of happening it in India itself. The schedule will be out in Feb .

All players will be making a good sum of money from this series.
Many of these matches are mostly fixed so bet only a small amount which you can afford to lose and enjoy the fun.
They will try to keep all the league matches very interesting to attract more and more viewers.
I don't like to bet on these IPL matches because very hard to predict the results. I prefer to bet on international matches because those are easy to guess.

Ah, you told what I should say too. You know I am still a big fan of cricket but I don't like IPL just because of this. Every match seemed a fixing one to me and I had left watching IPL from 2013. Anyway, t20 is most of the time unpredictable. Can you remember the match between Netherland and Ireland in world cup T20? How Netherland made it?

[JSRAW]

Anyway, well done Indian Team. Record is a record.

no one will remember who played.

True! You summed it up all beautifully. after 20-30 years, no one going to remember who played in this test series. except for the result.

Everyone forgot What happened in 2007-08 series and moved on.

I'm sorry to say but I don't agree with this, in 20-30 years from now I still think people will remember that one of the best batsman in the world at the time of this test series in Smith wasn't playing for Australia and that one of the best opening batsman in the world Warner was also not playing. Don't forget that this ball tampering from the three Australian guys will always be remembered due to it was the biggest thing to happen in Australian cricket so I believe everyone will remember that in this test series where India beat Australia on home soil that two of Australia's best batsman were not playing. Like I have been saying if they were playing it would of been a different story and the series would of been a lot closer then it was.

I totally agree with that. This test series between Australia and India was completely tasteless without Warner and Smith. India might succeed again in winning the upcoming ODI series against Australia, but for the Indian team, that should not be something to be *very* proud of.

Indians have a lot to cheer about in context of this series. It was not that tasteless for Indian or every cricket fan around the world for the following reasons.

1. Mayank Agarwal: Debutant faces the likes of Starc and shows in a foreign condition that he can bat no matter who is the opposition and he's here for a long run. time will tell how he transforms his test career. it depends on him.

2. Hanuma Vihari: Numbers don't support him but he has only 4 test under his cap and this guy showed grit and intent when facing English bowler in England and same here in Australia when given chance or throw under the bus (responsibility to open, according to team's requirement).

3. Rishab Pant: He is my fav youngest player in this Indian team along with Prithvi Shaw. I have been following him since under 19 world cup 2016 and let me tell you he's a very destructive player. his average is almost 50 in test despite throwing his wicket with the loose shot but he played only 9 Test match, made 2 centuries in Eng and Aus and missed 2 in India by playing loose shots. so he will learn from here and with more games, his wicketkeeping and batting will improve. no one can deny that his last inning in England and Australia was a good treat for every cricket fan.

Not including Indian Fast Bowlers.

[Raja_MBZ]

Anyway, well done Indian Team. Record is a record.

no one will remember who played.

True! You summed it up all beautifully. after 20-30 years, no one going to remember who played in this test series. except for the result.

Everyone forgot What happened in 2007-08 series and moved on.

I'm sorry to say but I don't agree with this, in 20-30 years from now I still think people will remember that one of the best batsman in the world at the time of this test series in Smith wasn't playing for Australia and that one of the best opening batsman in the world Warner was also not playing. Don't forget that this ball tampering from the three Australian guys will always be remembered due to it was the biggest thing to happen in Australian cricket so I believe everyone will remember that in this test series where India beat Australia on home soil that two of Australia's best batsman were not playing. Like I have been saying if they were playing it would of been a different story and the series would of been a lot closer then it was.

I totally agree with that. This test series between Australia and India was completely tasteless without Warner and Smith. India might succeed again in winning the upcoming ODI series against Australia, but for the Indian team, that should not be something to be *very* proud of.

Indians have a lot to cheer about in context of this series. It was not that tasteless for Indian or every cricket fan around the world for the following reasons.

1. Mayank Agarwal: Debutant faces the likes of Starc and shows in a foreign condition that he can bat no matter who is the opposition and he's here for a long run. time will tell how he transforms his test career. it depends on him.

2. Hanuma Vihari: Numbers don't support him but he has only 4 test under his cap and this guy showed grit and intent when facing English bowler in England and same here in Australia when given chance or throw under the bus (responsibility to open, according to team's requirement).

3. Rishab Pant: He is my fav youngest player in this Indian team along with Prithvi Shaw. I have been following him since under 19 world cup 2016 and let me tell you he's a very destructive player. his average is almost 50 in test despite throwing his wicket with the loose shot but he played only 9 Test match, made 2 centuries in Eng and Aus and missed 2 in India by playing loose shots. so he will learn from here and with more games, his wicketkeeping and batting will improve. no one can deny that his last inning in England and Australia was a good treat for every cricket fan.

Not including Indian Fast Bowlers.

Alright, guys, the Indian fans took it way too serious, so I'm taking my words back; the series was not tasteless. I should've said, "the series would've tasted better if Warner and Smith were playing."

The only thing I'm afraid of is the possible "over-confidence" of Virat Kohli in upcoming matches and series; it can prove to be very bad for the Indian cricket team.

Good luck Indian team (and fans) with all the upcoming matches!

[JSRAW]

Anyway, well done Indian Team. Record is a record.

no one will remember who played.

True! You summed it up all beautifully. after 20-30 years, no one going to remember who played in this test series. except for the result.

Everyone forgot What happened in 2007-08 series and moved on.

I'm sorry to say but I don't agree with this, in 20-30 years from now I still think people will remember that one of the best batsman in the world at the time of this test series in Smith wasn't playing for Australia and that one of the best opening batsman in the world Warner was also not playing. Don't forget that this ball tampering from the three Australian guys will always be remembered due to it was the biggest thing to happen in Australian cricket so I believe everyone will remember that in this test series where India beat Australia on home soil that two of Australia's best batsman were not playing. Like I have been saying if they were playing it would of been a different story and the series would of been a lot closer then it was.

I totally agree with that. This test series between Australia and India was completely tasteless without Warner and Smith. India might succeed again in winning the upcoming ODI series against Australia, but for the Indian team, that should not be something to be *very* proud of.

Indians have a lot to cheer about in context of this series. It was not that tasteless for Indian or every cricket fan around the world for the following reasons.

1. Mayank Agarwal: Debutant faces the likes of Starc and shows in a foreign condition that he can bat no matter who is the opposition and he's here for a long run. time will tell how he transforms his test career. it depends on him.

2. Hanuma Vihari: Numbers don't support him but he has only 4 test under his cap and this guy showed grit and intent when facing English bowler in England and same here in Australia when given chance or throw under the bus (responsibility to open, according to team's requirement).

3. Rishab Pant: He is my fav youngest player in this Indian team along with Prithvi Shaw. I have been following him since under 19 world cup 2016 and let me tell you he's a very destructive player. his average is almost 50 in test despite throwing his wicket with the loose shot but he played only 9 Test match, made 2 centuries in Eng and Aus and missed 2 in India by playing loose shots. so he will learn from here and with more games, his wicketkeeping and batting will improve. no one can deny that his last inning in England and Australia was a good treat for every cricket fan.

Not including Indian Fast Bowlers.

Alright, guys, the Indian fans took it way too serious, so I'm taking my words back; the series was not tasteless. I should've said, "the series would've tasted better if Warner and Smith were playing."

The only thing I'm afraid of is the possible "over-confidence" of Virat Kohli in upcoming matches and series; it can prove to be very bad for the Indian cricket team.

Good luck Indian team (and fans) with all the upcoming matches!

Haha no bhai no seriousness. please don't mind.  

And yes if Smith was playing then it would have been very close series. if one says it's not then he-she don't know about Test Cricket

There is a reason Dhoni still playing in ODI so that he can put a break on Kohli's overconfidence. so Indian team is covered if by any chance something goes wrong with Virat or hypothetically speaking if Virat lose captaincy then Rohit is already in reserve for ODI.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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India Pakistan fight here too? 

Anyway, I always learn that Pakistan is an unpredictable team. Who thought that they will win 2017 ICC Champions Trophy Final? But they did? India is much more predictable. They have consistency. But when it comes to Australia then you can not just say that you gonna win.

ODI series will be interesting to see. My bet is for India though.

[Raja_MBZ]

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India Pakistan fight here too? 

Anyway, I always learn that Pakistan is an unpredictable team. Who thought that they will win 2017 ICC Champions Trophy Final? But they did? India is much more predictable. They have consistency. But when it comes to Australia then you can not just say that you gonna win.

ODI series will be interesting to see. My bet is for India though.

Indo-Pak wars history:

No.1: Indo-Pak War of 1947 (on Kashmir and Jammu)
No.2: Indo-Pak War of 1965 (on Operation Gibraltar)
No.3: Indo-Pak War of 1971 (on Bangladesh)
No.4: Indo-Pak War of 1999 (on Kargil)
No.5: Indo-Pak War of 2019 (on Bitcointalk's "Cricket match predictions discussions")