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[RoomBot]

Will he really build a wall?
I read it can be done, it would cost about 8 Billion and could be done in 4 years, the same amount of time he would be in office.
I think he will.

Wall?

Mexican President says, No WAY JOSE:


http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/10/world/mexico-president-fareed-interview/

I got some news for you.  The Mexican president is not in charge of whether the US builds a wall or not.

Of course.  The article states that he won't pay for it.  

He's not in charge of whether Mexico pays for it or not.  All that the US has to do is place a small fee on "Remittances" from the US to Mexico.  That's the money all the illegal Mexicans here are sending back to their families.

So you see, this is really not very complicated.

Not when they discover BITCOIN, yo!

[Steinar]

Trump can put tariffs on goods exported by Mexico to USA.

[tvbcof]

Will he really build a wall?
I read it can be done, it would cost about 8 Billion and could be done in 4 years, the same amount of time he would be in office.
I think he will.

You know for a damn fact mexico isnt going to fork up to pay a wall all across bottom line of texas.

The fact he said mexico would pay for it is just dumb, and if he thinks we all would want to pay for it thats even more dumb.

Then again that would question on spending in general since half the US is made up of immigrants who made US what it is today...

Most people seem to have a simplistic conception of 'the wall' as a physical thing.  It's likely to be around 10% physical with the remainder consisting of legal, economic, intelligence, etc.  Mexico would be wise to be a partner in the endeavor so that they might have a chance of taking part in it's ongoing operation.  If they don't, oh well.

I don't believe that I would even give Mexico the opportunity to participate in the wall project at this point.  They could perhaps buy in later when we can charge more and indeed, may actually make a profit.

[virtualx]

Will he really build a wall?

Maybe, but that won't stop immigrants. As a comparison, the UK and France have a sea between but immigrants still get into the UK illegally.

[BADecker]

Will he really build a wall?

Maybe, but that won't stop immigrants. As a comparison, the UK and France have a sea between but immigrants still get into the UK illegally.

The difference is, in Britain, immigrants enter lawfully if not legally. But this is not true in France. Lawfully and legally are the same in France.

In America, if any man or woman calls out any government man or woman in court, the government man or woman must answer lawfully rather than legally. This is called common law, and it came from Great Britain. France doesn't have it.

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1512214.msg15563912#msg15563912.

[Spendulus]

Will he really build a wall?
I read it can be done, it would cost about 8 Billion and could be done in 4 years, the same amount of time he would be in office.
I think he will.

Wall?

Mexican President says, No WAY JOSE:


http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/10/world/mexico-president-fareed-interview/

I got some news for you.  The Mexican president is not in charge of whether the US builds a wall or not.

Of course.  The article states that he won't pay for it.  

He's not in charge of whether Mexico pays for it or not.  All that the US has to do is place a small fee on "Remittances" from the US to Mexico.  That's the money all the illegal Mexicans here are sending back to their families.

So you see, this is really not very complicated.

Not when they discover BITCOIN, yo!

I almost mentioned that but did not.  The "unexpected consequences" of building the wall and having BTC subvert it would be fascinating.  For this reason alone I have to be totally for building the wall and thus for Trump.

Go Bitcoin!

[valta4065]

Trump can put tariffs on goods exported by Mexico to USA.

To make everything in your country more expensive?
What's the point?

[BADecker]

Trump can put tariffs on goods exported by Mexico to USA.

To make everything in your country more expensive?
What's the point?

More money from import/export means less needed from income taxes.

[craked5]

Trump can put tariffs on goods exported by Mexico to USA.

To make everything in your country more expensive?
What's the point?

More money from import/export means less needed from income taxes.

But it doesn't change the fact that you still pay it xD

It's like if I drop the restaurant menu price by 10% but add those 10% for the service. You pay the same amount even if food is less expensive ^^

[valta4065]

Trump can put tariffs on goods exported by Mexico to USA.

To make everything in your country more expensive?
What's the point?

More money from import/export means less needed from income taxes.

But in both cases it's the citizen who pays it.
Where I agree is that it's an indirect taxation... But I'm not sure it's better than direct taxation :/

[BADecker]

Trump can put tariffs on goods exported by Mexico to USA.

To make everything in your country more expensive?
What's the point?

More money from import/export means less needed from income taxes.

But in both cases it's the citizen who pays it.
Where I agree is that it's an indirect taxation... But I'm not sure it's better than direct taxation :/

If we make our own products, there is no import. If government makes export tax too high, we simply don't export. If government wants any money at all, they have to balance the tax so that products can come and go. Government shrinks to the right size.

[vokain]

Trump can put tariffs on goods exported by Mexico to USA.

To make everything in your country more expensive?
What's the point?

More money from import/export means less needed from income taxes.

But in both cases it's the citizen who pays it.
Where I agree is that it's an indirect taxation... But I'm not sure it's better than direct taxation :/

If we make our own products, there is no import. If government makes export tax too high, we simply don't export. If government wants any money at all, they have to balance the tax so that products can come and go. Government shrinks to the right size.

Eh, I might argue that if we make our own products better, then there is no import. The taxes still decrease degrees of freedom

[craked5]

Trump can put tariffs on goods exported by Mexico to USA.

To make everything in your country more expensive?
What's the point?

More money from import/export means less needed from income taxes.

But in both cases it's the citizen who pays it.
Where I agree is that it's an indirect taxation... But I'm not sure it's better than direct taxation :/

If we make our own products, there is no import. If government makes export tax too high, we simply don't export. If government wants any money at all, they have to balance the tax so that products can come and go. Government shrinks to the right size.

Eh, I might argue that if we make our own products better, then there is no import. The taxes still decrease degrees of freedom

But pay for school, roads, police, hospitals...
Oh right you're American, well they pay for bombs bullets, mortars...

[yugo23]

Will he really build a wall?
I read it can be done, it would cost about 8 Billion and could be done in 4 years, the same amount of time he would be in office.
I think he will.

Wall?

Mexican President says, No WAY JOSE:


http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/10/world/mexico-president-fareed-interview/

I got some news for you.  The Mexican president is not in charge of whether the US builds a wall or not.

Of course.  The article states that he won't pay for it.  

He's not in charge of whether Mexico pays for it or not.  All that the US has to do is place a small fee on "Remittances" from the US to Mexico.  That's the money all the illegal Mexicans here are sending back to their families.

So you see, this is really not very complicated.

Lol!
Not very complicated no...
You really think you'll be able to tax money illegal migrants are sending back home?
Don't you feel it's a bit insane to accept the employment of illegal migrants but taxing the money they earn?

[Spendulus]

Will he really build a wall?
I read it can be done, it would cost about 8 Billion and could be done in 4 years, the same amount of time he would be in office.
I think he will.

Wall?

Mexican President says, No WAY JOSE:


http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/10/world/mexico-president-fareed-interview/

I got some news for you.  The Mexican president is not in charge of whether the US builds a wall or not.

Of course.  The article states that he won't pay for it.  

He's not in charge of whether Mexico pays for it or not.  All that the US has to do is place a small fee on "Remittances" from the US to Mexico.  That's the money all the illegal Mexicans here are sending back to their families.

So you see, this is really not very complicated.

Lol!
Not very complicated no...
You really think you'll be able to tax money illegal migrants are sending back home?
Don't you feel it's a bit insane to accept the employment of illegal migrants but taxing the money they earn?

Actually, he can set up the fee on remittances with just one phone call.  There's no need to call it a tax.  Is it insane?

Everything is these days.

[DooMAD]

Will he really build a wall?
I read it can be done, it would cost about 8 Billion and could be done in 4 years, the same amount of time he would be in office.
I think he will.

You know for a damn fact mexico isnt going to fork up to pay a wall all across bottom line of texas.

The fact he said mexico would pay for it is just dumb, and if he thinks we all would want to pay for it thats even more dumb.

Then again that would question on spending in general since half the US is made up of immigrants who made US what it is today...

Mexico should build the wall themselves and every twenty feet or so, put a door in it that can only be opened from the Mexican side. 

Seriously, though, if America is crazy enough to elect Trump, then I'm pretty sure that controversy about a stupid wall is the least of your problems.

Then again, the UK isn't much better off with Theresa May(garet Thatcher, the second coming.  All she needs is an Argentinian ship to sink and then she ticks all the boxes):

Progressive policies have gained May support among moderates and modernizers, but many feel uncomfortable with her immigration policy. The Irish Times described various policy proposals she's put forward on immigration as "draconian enough to be overruled by cabinet colleagues."
May wants to reduce net migration to the UK from 330,000 to the tens of thousands and wants to bar British citizens from bringing in their foreign born spouses or children unless they meet certain financial requirements — regardless of how much the foreign spouse earns.
“When immigration is too high, when the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society,” she said in a 2015 speech.
She also voted in May to repeal the Human Rights Act. She reasoned that it limits the power of government, according to the Independent.

Seems everyone's gone mad for restrictions on immigration, despite the fact that figures prove immigration is a net contributor to the UK economy and, given recent aftershocks from a certain referendum, you'd think we'd naturally take all the help for our economy we can get right now.  Perhaps common sense is too much to ask in the current political climate.

[RoomBot]

BWAHAHAHHA....

This group  called the Other 98% says "We’re Building a Wall Around Trump. And Mexicans are helping to pay for It!"

Donald Trump is bringing his three-ring circus of hate into Cleveland next week for the Republican Convention. So we’re heading to Cleveland with a few thousand Americans of all stripes to build a wall around Trump. Literally. And we need your help.
We’re working with a bunch of bad-ass partners to create a 15,000 foot-long wall! Our wall will be made of fabric and stenciled and painted by artists (and kids!) to look like a real wall. Our wall won’t divide cultures and families; our wall brings us together and speaks truth to power.
Some sections of our wall will be held by courageous front-line activists to peacefully blockade Trump’s convention. Thousands of Americans will march through Cleveland with sections of our wall before attaching it to the 15,000 foot-long security fence that Cleveland is building to protect Trump from the voice of the people.
Check out our #WallOffTrump Indiegogo page and chip-in to make it happen.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/wall-off-trump#/

[Masha Sha]

Add Kevin Warsh as an economic advisor! Great guy, smart motivated to make America great again!!

[vokain]

Add Kevin Warsh as an economic advisor! Great guy, smart motivated to make America great again!!

TEAM AMERICA!!!

[criptix]

Add Kevin Warsh as an economic advisor! Great guy, smart motivated to make America great again!!

TEAM AMERICA!!!

propaganda from the msm i tell you boys.
this is the truth about Captain Trump:




Just waiting for the Civil War