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^^^^ What he (Ted Cruz) did in Wyoming, North Dakota, and Colorado was unethical, immoral, unscrupulous, and unprincipled. It probably cost him at least 10% of the vote in NY (he finished with 14.5% of the vote). He might have gained a few dozen delegates from the rigged primaries. But in the end, it is going to cost him a lot more delegates. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FCgfPrGmUUAQR5JI.jpg&t=665&c=Aujqqfo78Ws41w)
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Trump is just as free to gather delegates at conventions as Ted Cruz. Whining because you don't like the rules of the game isn't very presidential.
He does not win the nomination by getting votes in states.
He wins the Republican nomination at the national convention. He should focus on that. Like all of the other Republicans are.
Maybe if he had spent more time in the Republican Party instead of donating to Democrats he would understand how the process works.
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Trump is just as free to gather delegates at conventions as Ted Cruz. Whining because you don't like the rules of the game isn't very presidential.
He does not win the nomination by getting votes in states.
He wins the Republican nomination at the national convention. He should focus on that. Like all of the other Republicans are.
Maybe if he had spent more time in the Republican Party instead of donating to Democrats he would understand how the process works.
Maybe he does understand how the process works. "Trump cleverly used the Colorado “rules change” situation that denied him any delegates as a warning to the party for the convention. Trump’s Wall Street Journal article about Colorado was perfect because it primed voters to be touchy about any future shenanigans. The party has been warned. The Colorado situation is a perfect fit for Trump’s story. Trump is trying to break the system at the same time the system is acting rigged right in front of our eyes." http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143006237056/the-trump-chess-board
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Trump is just as free to gather delegates at conventions as Ted Cruz. Whining because you don't like the rules of the game isn't very presidential.
He does not win the nomination by getting votes in states.
He wins the Republican nomination at the national convention. He should focus on that. Like all of the other Republicans are.
Maybe if he had spent more time in the Republican Party instead of donating to Democrats he would understand how the process works.
Maybe he does understand how the process works. "Trump cleverly used the Colorado “rules change” situation that denied him any delegates as a warning to the party for the convention. Trump’s Wall Street Journal article about Colorado was perfect because it primed voters to be touchy about any future shenanigans. The party has been warned. The Colorado situation is a perfect fit for Trump’s story. Trump is trying to break the system at the same time the system is acting rigged right in front of our eyes." http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143006237056/the-trump-chess-boardThe party is all about shenanigans. They literally beat up Ron Paul supporters at the conventions among many other things to keep them out.
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April 20, 2016, 03:17:22 PM |
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Trump is just as free to gather delegates at conventions as Ted Cruz. Whining because you don't like the rules of the game isn't very presidential.
He does not win the nomination by getting votes in states.
He wins the Republican nomination at the national convention. He should focus on that. Like all of the other Republicans are.
Maybe if he had spent more time in the Republican Party instead of donating to Democrats he would understand how the process works.
Maybe he does understand how the process works. "Trump cleverly used the Colorado “rules change” situation that denied him any delegates as a warning to the party for the convention. Trump’s Wall Street Journal article about Colorado was perfect because it primed voters to be touchy about any future shenanigans. The party has been warned. The Colorado situation is a perfect fit for Trump’s story. Trump is trying to break the system at the same time the system is acting rigged right in front of our eyes." http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143006237056/the-trump-chess-boardThe party is all about shenanigans. They literally beat up Ron Paul supporters at the conventions among many other things to keep them out. This year or the last election cycle?
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April 20, 2016, 03:21:15 PM |
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Trump is just as free to gather delegates at conventions as Ted Cruz. Whining because you don't like the rules of the game isn't very presidential.
He does not win the nomination by getting votes in states.
He wins the Republican nomination at the national convention. He should focus on that. Like all of the other Republicans are.
Maybe if he had spent more time in the Republican Party instead of donating to Democrats he would understand how the process works.
Maybe he does understand how the process works. "Trump cleverly used the Colorado “rules change” situation that denied him any delegates as a warning to the party for the convention. Trump’s Wall Street Journal article about Colorado was perfect because it primed voters to be touchy about any future shenanigans. The party has been warned. The Colorado situation is a perfect fit for Trump’s story. Trump is trying to break the system at the same time the system is acting rigged right in front of our eyes." http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143006237056/the-trump-chess-boardThe party is all about shenanigans. They literally beat up Ron Paul supporters at the conventions among many other things to keep them out. This year or the last election cycle? 2012. Back room rule changes, shutting down the conference when they saw that Ron Paul was winning, changing the rules at the national convention so Ron Paul wouldn't be on the ballot, ignoring the clear voice downvote at the national convention (the teleprompter had the next line "the ayes have it" already typed out and the speaker read it word for word).
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Full results from New York, by congressional districts. Trump lost 2-3 delegates by very narrow margins (Check 12th and 20th congressional districts). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fespnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com%2F2016%2F04%2Fcd-list-ny-r5.png%3Fw%3D575&t=665&c=h5_lq9lIHLK5qQ)
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April 20, 2016, 03:30:16 PM |
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Perfect score for Cruz.
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hi guys what is with donald trump ?
im from the phillipines and i do not know any thing about that guys
he is like the main thing that i see on facebook every freaking DAY!
He was on a TV show called "You're Fired". Apparently that qualified him to run for the office of president of the United States as the male version of Hillary Clinton. He's also a big fan of Xenophobes who he easily manipulated by saying he would build a 200 foot wall all around the US. He is also unique in that he's a Democrat winning the Republican nomination. Trump seems to me like a genuine nationalist. A year or two ago I was dead set against nationalism due to the very ugly history of what it can create. OTOH, I always did have a soft spot for nationalists in most other countries who took an interest in trying to benefit their own people rather than wealthy forigners using the resources of their own country (esp, Chavez, Putin, etc.) Over the last few years I've come to consider the United States itself as being an underdog who is under effective attack from the globalists. Not the soft-globalists who want international cooperation but the hard-core globalists who want corporate owned technocratic one-world central governance. This, to me, the worst thing in history. I have continued concern about Trump's penchant for authoritarianism and limited interest in 'individual liberty', but feel that we (all societies) must stay wired for a multi-polar world with a diversity of visions or all will be lost with no realistic avenue for recovery of those things which Trump and his ilk might be weak on. I'll add one thing. As programers and systems analysts who strive for efficiency know, systems need to be 'normalized' in order to have things work smoothly. The gears need to mesh. This is exactly what the globalists are doing at the moment. Trade is one of the primary tools to make this happen and it is no accident that there are huge deficits and 'bad deals' for the United States. Trump hammers on this and in pubilic writes it off to 'stupidity' within our government, but certain things he says lead me to believe that he rather thinks that it is the easiest thing for Joe Public to understand and the most effective to win votes and that he knows with some precision what is actually going on. Hopefully also he would be inclined to fight back against some of the most powerful people the world has ever seen. I would also say that I fully recognize that the U.S. has 'got it good' compared to most other nations, and to some extent at their expense. This sucks for them, and it is not the reason I have an 'America first' posture. I would like it if the U.S. could and would 'be all that we can be' without exploiting and degrading others. Isolationism is the most likely way to achive this and I think that Trump is genuine in his stance toward this. I would not bet the farm on it, but he seems our best hope in this regard.
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Ironically, people called Ron Paul an isolationist as a dig against him (even though he wasn't).
Now a genuine isolationist is using it to win the Republican primary and they love it.
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Donald Trump, After Difficult Stretch, Shows a Softer SideIt has been a rough few weeks for Donald J. Trump and his team: a bruising loss in Wisconsin, a public campaign shake-up, and some high-profile missteps and gaffes, including his reference to the attacks on the World Trade Center as occurring “on 7-11.” In a lengthy interview in his office on the 26th floor of Trump Tower on Tuesday, shortly after casting a ballot for himself and hours before the polls closed, the usually boastful Mr. Trump seemed a bit more humbled as he reflected on his “evolving” campaign and looked to the challenges ahead. Alongside his oldest son, Donald J. Trump Jr., and his spokeswoman, Hope Hicks, Mr. Trump spoke freely, talking about whether to court delegates with lavish perks like visits to his mansions. Below are some condensed excerpts from the conversation. On what it was like to vote for himself in New York on Tuesday: I got over to the booth, a lot of people on the street. Obviously, they saw somebody was coming, and when I got out, it was all cheers. And then I went in and I got the voter slip, and I saw my name, and I said: “Oh, that’s very interesting. I’m voting for myself as president of the United States.” And it does sort of hit you, a little bit differently than when you’re thinking of it in a different context. You see your name, and it says “president of the United States” on a quite nicely printed form. And check the box. And it’s very big for not very many names. So it’s a great honor. Honestly, it’s a great honor. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/us/politics/donald-trump-interview.html
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Donald Trump, After Difficult Stretch, Shows a Softer SideIt has been a rough few weeks for Donald J. Trump and his team: a bruising loss in Wisconsin, a public campaign shake-up, and some high-profile missteps and gaffes, including his reference to the attacks on the World Trade Center as occurring “on 7-11.” In a lengthy interview in his office on the 26th floor of Trump Tower on Tuesday, shortly after casting a ballot for himself and hours before the polls closed, the usually boastful Mr. Trump seemed a bit more humbled as he reflected on his “evolving” campaign and looked to the challenges ahead. Alongside his oldest son, Donald J. Trump Jr., and his spokeswoman, Hope Hicks, Mr. Trump spoke freely, talking about whether to court delegates with lavish perks like visits to his mansions. Below are some condensed excerpts from the conversation. On what it was like to vote for himself in New York on Tuesday: I got over to the booth, a lot of people on the street. Obviously, they saw somebody was coming, and when I got out, it was all cheers. And then I went in and I got the voter slip, and I saw my name, and I said: “Oh, that’s very interesting. I’m voting for myself as president of the United States.” And it does sort of hit you, a little bit differently than when you’re thinking of it in a different context. You see your name, and it says “president of the United States” on a quite nicely printed form. And check the box. And it’s very big for not very many names. So it’s a great honor. Honestly, it’s a great honor. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/us/politics/donald-trump-interview.html ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.sli.mg%2FPASxaZ.jpg&t=665&c=nY4GXKOgTMHSeg) What a beautiful article to read now, after his NY's crushing, dominating victory... Thank you. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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