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December 06, 2015, 03:39:01 AM |
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Stop playing defense and move: B5 --> B4
That does not look like a good move to me. This game has gone far beyond me so i will just make a guess at a move and not make it a vote. My guess would pb4
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galdur
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December 06, 2015, 05:52:50 AM |
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I like that bishop a lot and think white gets too much play for the exchange sacrifice. So, b4.
Bxe4 : 3 votes (jjacob, shanerc563, XMRpromotions) b4: 3 votes (knightkon, boolberry, galdur)
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Hueristic
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December 06, 2015, 06:02:25 AM |
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Stop playing defense and move: B5 --> B4
That does not look like a good move to me. This game has gone far beyond me so i will just make a guess at a move and not make it a vote. My guess would pb4 LOL I misread this as being Bishop to B4. Doh
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hermesesus
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December 06, 2015, 10:48:01 AM |
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I cannot find any forced win for white if we play Bxe4. It appears to be more of a positional sacrifice. White will have a bishop, pawn and long term initiative for the rook. We would have a small material advantage but be on the defensive due to our weak pawn structure.
I like that bishop a lot and think white gets too much play for the exchange sacrifice. So, b4.
Bxe4 : 3 votes (jjacob, shanerc563, XMRpromotions) b4: 3 votes (knightkon, boolberry, galdur)
I follow you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) b4 b4: 4 votes (knightkon, boolberry, galdur, hermesesus) Bxe4 : 3 votes (jjacob, shanerc563, XMRpromotions)
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galdur
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December 06, 2015, 11:17:22 AM |
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Yeah, bishop, pawn and initiative vs. rook. Bxe4 is no blunder IMO, just not to my liking, think it makes things too comfortable for white.
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mammut
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December 06, 2015, 12:41:11 PM |
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wow, interesting game. dont know if i would have been able NOT to take the rook ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) after looking at it for a while i do think it is actually a really bad move ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) yet i dont quite understand his a4. is it a bait for us taking the rook? i like b4 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 06, 2015, 01:39:39 PM |
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I vote for b4
b4: 5 votes (knightkon, boolberry, galdur, hermesesus, marcus1986) Bxe4 : 3 votes (jjacob, shanerc563, XMRpromotions)
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December 06, 2015, 01:48:18 PM |
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I would not have come up with b4 but I like it, so:
b4: 6 votes (knightkon, boolberry, galdur, hermesesus, marcus1986, Morecoin Freeman) Bxe4 : 3 votes (jjacob, shanerc563, XMRpromotions)
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December 06, 2015, 03:24:09 PM Last edit: December 06, 2015, 04:19:19 PM by languagehasmeaning |
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b4: 7 votes (knightkon, boolberry, galdur, hermesesus, marcus1986, Morecoin Freeman, languagehasmeaning) Bxe4 : 3 votes (jjacob, shanerc563, XMRpromotions)
Defending our position after Bxe4 will be difficult. We would give white a great center and lose our ability to fight for the open e file. I prefer b4. If white plays 19.c4 we can play Nf6.
One interesting plan is 19.c4 Nf6 20.Re1 Rae8 21.Be3 c5 with the idea of Rxe3
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December 07, 2015, 03:00:59 AM |
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b4: 8 votes (knightkon, boolberry, galdur, hermesesus, marcus1986, Morecoin Freeman, languagehasmeaning, newb4now) Bxe4 : 3 votes (jjacob, shanerc563, XMRpromotions)
I wanted to play Bxe4 but changed my mind. I would have guessed that it would have been ahead in the voting.
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galdur
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December 07, 2015, 04:02:27 AM Last edit: December 07, 2015, 04:12:42 AM by galdur |
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b4: 7 votes (knightkon, boolberry, galdur, hermesesus, marcus1986, Morecoin Freeman, languagehasmeaning) Bxe4 : 3 votes (jjacob, shanerc563, XMRpromotions)
Defending our position after Bxe4 will be difficult. We would give white a great center and lose our ability to fight for the open e file. I prefer b4. If white plays 19.c4 we can play Nf6.
One interesting plan is 19.c4 Nf6 20.Re1 Rae8 21.Be3 c5 with the idea of Rxe3
Yes, absolutely get the e-file. And it´s good to have his rook buried there on a1. So, b4 avoids opening of the a-file.
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December 07, 2015, 10:41:54 AM |
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Your move bitcointalk. You have the black pieces The current position is updated below: Game 2 (letsplayagame vs bitcointalk): 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Re4 g5 16.Qf1 Qh5 17.f3 Bf5 18.a4 b4 19.c4 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2Fsypjj8.jpg&t=665&c=DA6XLxt842OLmw)
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mammut
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December 07, 2015, 12:42:18 PM |
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maybe too early but this feels good for us ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Nf6
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galdur
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December 07, 2015, 12:55:23 PM |
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Seems reasonable.
Nf6: 2 votes (mammut, galdur)
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December 07, 2015, 01:46:33 PM |
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Nf6: 3 votes (mammut, galdur, Morecoin Freeman)
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galdur
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December 07, 2015, 01:52:16 PM |
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Regarding taking the rook; did b4 and c4 change anything? Haven´t had time to check it and I´m kind of biased by love of that bishop pair.
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December 07, 2015, 02:08:56 PM |
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Regarding taking the rook; did b4 and c4 change anything? Haven´t had time to check it and I´m kind of biased by love of that bishop pair.
I think it's as bad as before or even worse, as we let the c-pawn slip through --> one more pawn for him, supported by the b3 bishop and a freed queen I think he will play Re1 afterwards, but overall I think we should take that e-line with our rooks and then maybe c5
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December 07, 2015, 02:12:44 PM |
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Nf6: 4 votes (mammut, galdur, Morecoin Freeman, hermesesus)
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galdur
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December 07, 2015, 02:23:02 PM Last edit: December 08, 2015, 02:19:16 AM by galdur |
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Regarding taking the rook; did b4 and c4 change anything? Haven´t had time to check it and I´m kind of biased by love of that bishop pair.
I think it's as bad as before or even worse, as we let the c-pawn slip through --> one more pawn for him, supported by the b3 bishop and a freed queen I think he will play Re1 afterwards, but overall I think we should take that e-line with our rooks and then maybe c5 Yes, this line that our partner LHM has above looks pretty good 20.Re1 Rae8 21.Be3 c5 with the idea of Rxe3 He can hardly play 21.d5 because then the knight gets to e5 via d7 which must be good for black.
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December 08, 2015, 02:04:34 AM |
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Nf6: 4 votes (mammut, galdur, Morecoin Freeman, hermesesus)
Nf6: 5 votes (mammut, galdur, Morecoin Freeman, hermesesus, boolberry)
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