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December 16, 2015, 01:56:30 PM |
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1 votes g4 (mammut) 4 votes Rd8 (XMRpromotions, galdur, languagehasmeaning, 8xmr) 3 votes Bg6 (LucyLovesCrypto, boolberry, ING Bank) 2 votes Bd6 (tifozi, funnyman21) 1 vote Bd4 (Rolf Uhlhorn)
changing my vote to Rd8 1 votes g4 (mammut) 5 votes Rd8 (XMRpromotions, galdur, languagehasmeaning, 8xmr, LucyLovesCrypto) 2 votes Bg6 (boolberry, ING Bank) 2 votes Bd6 (tifozi, funnyman21) 1 vote Bd4 (Rolf Uhlhorn)
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marcus1986
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December 16, 2015, 07:01:19 PM |
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1 votes g4 (mammut) 5 votes Rd8 (XMRpromotions, galdur, languagehasmeaning, 8xmr, LucyLovesCrypto) 3 votes Bg6 (boolberry, ING Bank, marcus1986) 2 votes Bd6 (tifozi, funnyman21) 1 vote Bd4 (Rolf Uhlhorn)
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languagehasmeaning
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December 16, 2015, 11:52:01 PM |
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Some of you might like the article quoted below. I also posted it in another thread in response to a question. Question for languagehasmeaning, if he is willing to answer. Or anyone who can offer an insight for me.
I am curious. How many moves ahead can you calculate all the possibilities? And is that even a useful computation in playing the game, or is the useful computation probabilistic? Apologies I am ignorant and I am curious about from someone of your caliber, what you can actually do mentally that enables you to win. I suppose I could learn this from books and I haven't researched it.
I know I already answered this question, but here is an answer from someone whose opinion will hold much more weight. World Champion Magnus Carlsen: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/16/sport/magnus-carlsen-chess-world-number-one/index.html #AskMagnus How many moves you see ahead of time and how often? overall and your record..? — Daniel Pittaluga (@DaniPittaluga) December 3, 2015 MC: "Most of the time the variations that are most relevant are four or five moves ahead, because for the next four or five moves you can calculate every reasonable possibility. But if it goes much further the possibilities are too diverse and it's just too time-consuming. And also the probability of mistakes are very high. But if the position is simple, then I can calculate as many moves as I want."
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letsplayagame (OP)
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December 17, 2015, 04:05:10 PM Last edit: December 18, 2015, 07:27:21 PM by letsplayagame |
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Your move bitcointalk. You have the black pieces The current position is updated below Game 2 (letsplayagame vs bitcointalk): 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Re4 g5 16.Qf1 Qh5 17.f3 Bf5 18.a4 b4 19.c4 Nf6 20.Re1 Rfe8 21.Be3 c5 22.Nd2 Rxe3 23.Rxe3 cxd4 24.Ree1 d3 25.c5 Bxc5+ 26.Kh1 Rd8 27.Re5 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F2yxlzk1.jpg&t=665&c=JztLfKs_vDLViA)
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December 17, 2015, 05:10:11 PM |
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Bh3: 1 vote (hermesesus)
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galdur
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December 17, 2015, 05:18:31 PM |
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Bh3: 1 vote (hermesesus)
Bh3: 2 votes (hermesesus, galdur)
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languagehasmeaning
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December 17, 2015, 06:59:21 PM |
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Bh3: 1 vote (hermesesus)
Bh3: 2 votes (hermesesus, galdur) Bh3: 3 votes (hermesesus, galdur, languagehasmeaning) This move should win 100% of all votes because there are no sane alternatives.
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boolberry
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December 18, 2015, 12:02:45 AM |
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Bh3: 4 votes (hermesesus, galdur, languagehasmeaning, ING Bank)
Bh3: 5 votes (hermesesus, galdur, languagehasmeaning, ING Bank, boolberry)
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Rolf Uhlhorn
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December 18, 2015, 12:12:37 AM |
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Bh3: 4 votes (hermesesus, galdur, languagehasmeaning, ING Bank)
Bh3: 5 votes (hermesesus, galdur, languagehasmeaning, ING Bank, boolberry) Bh3: 6 votes (hermesesus, galdur, languagehasmeaning, ING Bank, boolberry, Rolf Uhlhorn)
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letsplayagame (OP)
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December 18, 2015, 02:11:59 PM Last edit: December 18, 2015, 07:27:06 PM by letsplayagame |
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Your move bitcointalk. You have the black pieces The current position is updated below Game 2 (letsplayagame vs bitcointalk): 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Re4 g5 16.Qf1 Qh5 17.f3 Bf5 18.a4 b4 19.c4 Nf6 20.Re1 Rfe8 21.Be3 c5 22.Nd2 Rxe3 23.Rxe3 cxd4 24.Ree1 d3 25.c5 Bxc5+ 26.Kh1 Rd8 27.Re5 Bh3 28.Qe1 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F4qog12.jpg&t=665&c=CU7HSOt9OaTyeA)
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galdur
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December 18, 2015, 03:02:31 PM |
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Bd6
Bd6 2 votes (XMRpromotions, galdur)
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galdur
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December 18, 2015, 03:05:21 PM |
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OP, one slight rectification for the record
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Re4 g5 16.Qf1 Qh5 17.f3 Bf5 18.a4 b4 19.c4 Nf6 20.Re1 Rfe8 21.Be3 c5 22.Nd2 Rxe3 23.Rxe3 cxd4 24.Ree1 d3 25.c5 Bxc5+ 26.Kh1 Rd8 27.Re5 Bh3 28.Qe1
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letsplayagame (OP)
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December 18, 2015, 07:26:13 PM |
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OP, one slight rectification for the record
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Re4 g5 16.Qf1 Qh5 17.f3 Bf5 18.a4 b4 19.c4 Nf6 20.Re1 Rfe8 21.Be3 c5 22.Nd2 Rxe3 23.Rxe3 cxd4 24.Ree1 d3 25.c5 Bxc5+ 26.Kh1 Rd8 27.Re5 Bh3 28.Qe1
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Correcting now.
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Rolf Uhlhorn
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December 18, 2015, 11:39:44 PM |
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I don't know if I only have to give my move, or also suggestions. Because I am trying to figure out Bg4 and Bd4. Both have variations with Re8 (and Re2); with Bd4 we sacrifice our Queen. Both look promising, but I haven't found the complete picture yet.
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boolberry
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December 19, 2015, 12:05:26 AM |
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I don't know if I only have to give my move, or also suggestions. Because I am trying to figure out Bg4 and Bd4. Both have variations with Re8 (and Re2); with Bd4 we sacrifice our Queen. Both look promising, but I haven't found the complete picture yet.
Sharing your analysis is a good idea so everyone can help understand your ideas. I think I see your idea with Bg4 since fxg4 and Nxg4 looks good for us. The problem is I think white can play Rxc5 after Bg4 instead and after Bxf3+ Nxf3 Qxf3+ Kg1 I do not see a good follow up for us.
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Rolf Uhlhorn
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December 19, 2015, 12:17:18 AM |
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That is exactly the point: if the Knight takes Bf3, then Qxf3+ and Kg1, we do d2!, after which White has a problem.
I think white cannot take the Bishop with the Knight at f3. But that is exactly our problem, he won't play Nxf3, but Kg1. Then Re8 (I think) and after Re5 it looks like our attack ends (Rxe5 - Qxe5 and Ng4 - Qe8+ ....ouch).
Bd4 looks very promising, but I am trying to calculate the moves (of both Bg4 and Bd4).
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December 19, 2015, 12:29:03 AM |
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I think this move is the most important of the game but I may just be dense. My brain hurts with all the possibilities. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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Rolf Uhlhorn
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December 19, 2015, 02:18:44 AM |
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Bg4 won't work, i guess. Also after Ne4 in stead of Re8 in former variation, nothing works I think. But I hope you all look at it.
Here we go: 28. ... - Bd4! 29. Re7 - Bxb2 30. Bxf7+ - Qxf7 30. Rxf7 - Kxf7 (not Bxa8). I wished I had a chessboard to start thinking over from this situation.
31. Rb1 (Rd1 no good I think)- Bc3 32. Qf2 - Re8 33. Ne4 - Nxe4 34. fxe4+ - Kg6
Now, if 35. Qb6+ - Re6 follow with d2 for example
This is what I am thinking about. The 33. Ne4, i am not sure about, but white has not much to play here. I think, I am trying to see what the white Queen has for possibilities.
So, I tries to give my analyses. It's 3 am here, I decide during daytime. Thank you for your attention.
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Rolf Uhlhorn
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December 19, 2015, 02:31:32 AM |
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PS I forgot: not 31. ... - Re8 in stead of Bc3, because white probably just takes the Rook with his Queen, to get (the he...) out of this position ....
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