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December 01, 2012, 06:53:29 AM
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Nefario refused to return the 8 Bitcoin to me. Good luck everyone.

Any more infos? I mean he was in contact with you and didnt want to give you your user money or what are the 8BTC? Sounds like there is more to this story.

Probably the same as mine where I paid for an asset to be issued, and he refused to assist/answer questions and then the site was taken down like a day later. So in short he fleeced as many people as he could then cut and run.

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December 01, 2012, 02:32:30 PM
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I thought that fee was 20BTC. If he keeps it its clearly unfair because you paid for a service you never received.

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December 01, 2012, 02:39:36 PM
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I thought that fee was 20BTC. If he keeps it its clearly unfair because you paid for a service you never received.

It's not only unfair, it's theft.
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December 01, 2012, 02:52:22 PM
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I thought that fee was 20BTC. If he keeps it its clearly unfair because you paid for a service you never received.

I really dont even remember what I paid lol, I just remember him saying sucks to be you then the site went down. So I kissed those btc goodbye.

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December 03, 2012, 07:40:25 AM
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I thought that fee was 20BTC. If he keeps it its clearly unfair because you paid for a service you never received.

I really dont even remember what I paid lol, I just remember him saying sucks to be you then the site went down. So I kissed those btc goodbye.

Did you post about your pending asset here on bitcointalk?  I'd like to take a look at what your idea was.

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December 03, 2012, 03:35:49 PM
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I called him and he answered. However, when he knew it is about GLBSE, he hang off.

I personally have given up asking the asset info. Now I am thinking about sending him to the prison, but no more about clawing back my asset info and my 25BTC+ money. Nefario needs that to hire a lawyer for him, I guess.

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December 04, 2012, 05:33:23 PM
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Where is the list of who's gotten info so far.  I know gigavps has, what other issuers?  A few posts back said that 10 issuers had been notified.
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December 04, 2012, 05:35:39 PM
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Where is the list of who's gotten info so far.  I know gigavps has, what other issuers?  A few posts back said that 10 issuers had been notified.

http://blog.glbse.com/issers-who-have-been-given-lists-so-far
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December 04, 2012, 06:07:39 PM
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Now I am thinking about sending him to the prison

I approve this message. Until some scammers get retribution and become an example, the bitcoinsphere will be a scammers' playground.
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December 04, 2012, 06:09:58 PM
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Where is the list of who's gotten info so far.  I know gigavps has, what other issuers?  A few posts back said that 10 issuers had been notified.

http://blog.glbse.com/issers-who-have-been-given-lists-so-far

gigavps, Why do you think Nafario only gave G1GAVPS a partial list?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129091.0

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December 04, 2012, 06:22:02 PM
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gigavps, Why do you think Nafario only gave G1GAVPS a partial list?

I've seen three reasons there is only a partial list.

  • The asset holder did not make a claim on glbse.com after nefario put up the claims process.
  • The asset holder has received a double payment so nefario is holding that persons information hostage until the coins are returned.
  • The asset holder is not on the list for some explainable reason.

I have talked with at least 10 people who have fallen in to the third bullet point there. It's not good.
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December 04, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
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gigavps, Why do you think Nafario only gave G1GAVPS a partial list?

I've seen three reasons there is only a partial list.

  • The asset holder did not make a claim on glbse.com after nefario put up the claims process.
  • The asset holder has received a double payment so nefario is holding that persons information hostage until the coins are returned.
  • The asset holder is not on the list for some explainable reason.

I have talked with at least 10 people who have fallen in to the third bullet point there. It's not good.

Can you bring a message to G1GAVPS asking him to pay dividend faster? Nafario needs cash now, but he will not get the dividend when G1GAVPS pay, as he did not steal the shares. Nafario is a very honest man. You cannot verify whether Nafario is stealing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129091.0

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December 04, 2012, 07:28:16 PM
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I can't believe this is still going on.  Nefario, you have disappointed me.

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December 05, 2012, 06:33:00 AM
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gigavps, Why do you think Nafario only gave G1GAVPS a partial list?

I've seen three reasons there is only a partial list.

  • The asset holder did not make a claim on glbse.com after nefario put up the claims process.
  • The asset holder has received a double payment so nefario is holding that persons information hostage until the coins are returned.
  • The asset holder is not on the list for some explainable reason.

I have talked with at least 10 people who have fallen in to the third bullet point there. It's not good.

I can confirm this.  I have an asset with another asset issuer, I have not received any double payments and I have entered in my information.  I received the 2 bitcoins I had on GLBSE before it was shut down and received those bitcoins during the first round of coins being sent out.

Just as Nefario improperly sent out double payments, it is likely he can't code correctly to see who owes what.  Unless his database is still intact.  Since no one but him will verify the database it is impossible to say.

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December 05, 2012, 08:15:15 AM
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I do not approve. There has to be another way.

When it's all said and done, all your money will disappears and Nefario will be in jail.

Nefario can take away my 25+ bitcoins, but I still claim that he should give it back to me. He needs that for hiring a lawyer working several hours. Of course, if he refuse to give, I will use that as one of the evidences to send him to jail. I will appreciate his jail time.

You should know that Nefario has already taken revenge to some users who playing tough on this forum after the GLBSE shutting down. That user heavily invested in GIGAMING and no double payments dispute, but he is not included in the shareholder list.

If you are actually feared that, please send me any useful evidence and information to zsdmgcy at gmail dot com. I will use your material against him, and you can still try to be friend with Nefario, if you like.

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December 05, 2012, 08:25:48 AM
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gigavps, Why do you think Nafario only gave G1GAVPS a partial list?

I've seen three reasons there is only a partial list.

  • The asset holder did not make a claim on glbse.com after nefario put up the claims process.
  • The asset holder has received a double payment so nefario is holding that persons information hostage until the coins are returned.
  • The asset holder is not on the list for some explainable reason.

I have talked with at least 10 people who have fallen in to the third bullet point there. It's not good.

I can confirm this.  I have an asset with another asset issuer, I have not received any double payments and I have entered in my information.  I received the 2 bitcoins I had on GLBSE before it was shut down and received those bitcoins during the first round of coins being sent out.

Just as Nefario improperly sent out double payments, it is likely he can't code correctly to see who owes what.  Unless his database is still intact.  Since no one but him will verify the database it is impossible to say.

You're revenged. You're tough with him.  you're not the only one get revenged. That is my explanation.

I guess according to Nefario's moral standard,  it is absolutely right to keep your coins.

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December 06, 2012, 11:09:33 AM
Last edit: December 06, 2012, 11:29:45 AM by dishwara
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He returned only 90%, not 100% Bitcoins, in the asset holders account that too for only some holders, not to all.
Still 10% balance is there in asset holders account who got back the 90%, which has to be returned, without any answer when it will be returned.

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December 06, 2012, 11:25:01 AM
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He returned only 90%, not 100% Bitcoins, in the asset holders account.
Still 10% balance is there, which has to be returned, without any answer when it will be returned.

You sound as if 90% of all deposits were returned, but that's not the case. There are people with thousands of coins in there who haven't received a dime back.
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December 06, 2012, 03:45:12 PM
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You sound as if 90% of all deposits were returned, but that's not the case. There are people with thousands of coins in there who haven't received a dime back.
Maybe we are wrong and only several thousands BTC was returned so far.
But I never saw anyone declaring he was waiting for a hundred BTC or more. People are ranting here for a few BTC or less, not received by them.
Do you mean thousands of coins to be paid out by Nefario or just thousands of coins in form of GLBSE assets to be released by passing the data to the issuers?
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December 06, 2012, 04:09:06 PM
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I seriously wonder what's in his mind at the moment. Doesn't he realise that this behaviour achieves nothing but infuriating people? If you're going to run away with the money, do it properly.

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