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May 22, 2023, 08:42:01 PM
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Damn. Now, seeing that Juventus are losing 0-2, I decided to check how strong their positions are in the standings, I decided to look at it and almost broke my head  Grin - 10 points were deducted from them again and it was difficult for me to understand why I don’t see them in the usual second place  Grin
As I understand it, this is again not a final decision, and we will see the continuation of this clowning.
At the moment, we can only say that due to this penalty, everything is turned upside down and the only permutation in the top 4 is Juventus (and not Milan), which does not qualify for the Champions League and most likely even the Europa League.
I thought betting on Juventus was just throwing money away fast, but I avoided Juventus. Roll Eyes
from the first time Juventus' offense was lifted and getting second place in Serie A I felt skeptical and it was hard to believe Juventus because the performance of Juventus players was very bad and did not deserve to be ranked second in this Italian league and in the end it was proven that bad things happen after losing against Empoli with an embarrassing scoreline.
I will never believe that Juventus in the coming season will have a place in the Champions League with this very poor performance.
look at this score is very sad.


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May 22, 2023, 09:08:34 PM
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Damn. Now, seeing that Juventus are losing 0-2, I decided to check how strong their positions are in the standings, I decided to look at it and almost broke my head  Grin - 10 points were deducted from them again and it was difficult for me to understand why I don’t see them in the usual second place  Grin
As I understand it, this is again not a final decision, and we will see the continuation of this clowning.
At the moment, we can only say that due to this penalty, everything is turned upside down and the only permutation in the top 4 is Juventus (and not Milan), which does not qualify for the Champions League and most likely even the Europa League.
I thought betting on Juventus was just throwing money away fast, but I avoided Juventus. Roll Eyes
from the first time Juventus' offense was lifted and getting second place in Serie A I felt skeptical and it was hard to believe Juventus because the performance of Juventus players was very bad and did not deserve to be ranked second in this Italian league and in the end it was proven that bad things happen after losing against Empoli with an embarrassing scoreline.
I will never believe that Juventus in the coming season will have a place in the Champions League with this very poor performance.
look at this score is very sad.



Maybe Juventus is bad, but who is good and worthy? Inter with 12 (LOL) defeats?
If not for the fine, then Juventus would now be in 2nd place and this would be objective because everyone else is even worse. And by the way, in today's result there may be an influence of this returned penalty - the team must have been overwhelmed after being thrown so many places down.

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May 22, 2023, 09:14:06 PM
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This point deduction makes Milan's condition safe at least for now for the Champions League but on the other hand 2 matches remain now for each club and if Juventus lose today then their chances of moving in a better direction by shifting Atalanta and Roma are actually still possible.
I'm sure there will be an appeal about this, but indeed with the current conditions I don't really expect it because it's just a waste of time because even if their appeal for the first one is successful but I don't think it can be saved for Juventus compared to this 2nd one.

Juventus won't like to play in the conference league, not after all that has happened. They might just decide to drop and appeal the case again. It's very unfortunate that these things are happening. It's creating a lot of uncertainties, not only for Juventus but for other Serie A teams.
The point reduction, if it stands, favors Milan. As horrible as they've been lately, they have gotten a chance to qualify for the champions league. I don't think their position is threatened by either Roma or Atalanta. Although Inter still have to play Juventus, I believe they'll still hold on to that 4th position, they've been given a lifeline and I don't think they'll waste it. Besides, Atalanta still has to play Inter Milan, while Roma has Fiorentina, plus they're more focused on the Europa league.

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May 22, 2023, 09:15:10 PM
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Juventus have officially got a new punishment which is a 10-point reduction. In addition to that they got a horrible loss against Empoli today as well. Now they are even out of top six in the standings. From competing for the Champions League to this position... I guess this wouldn't also be the final decision about Juventus' point reduction. Maybe there would be still hope for them.

No matter what this season things haven't went their way clearly. They tried to do something in the Europa League but their performance was inadequate to even play a final game. I wonder if Allegri will get sacked for this or they will give one last chance.

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May 22, 2023, 09:15:27 PM
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lol . what happened in the serie A table this season. I can't believe the court gave such a bitter decision to Juventus that they had previously lifted the sentence. Indeed, bad luck again befalls Juventus and benefits other teams. I just checked the Serie A standings table and saw Juventus thrown into 7th place in the standings and they are 5 points adrift with AC Milan who are in 4th place.

I was more surprised after seeing the results of the Empoli vs Juventus match where Juventus failed again in this match and they even lost 4-1. Juventus are really in a dilemma after this decision and for ac milan they are getting fresh air again because they are back in the top 4.

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May 22, 2023, 09:15:49 PM
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I feel like Napoli is basically dominating the whole league as a joke now. Like they are already the title winners and still showing how good they are even after they guaranteed it, they didn't need to do that and yet they still did it, that's an amazing situation. I believe that it is definitely not a big deal, we all knew that they were the best anyway and that's how it moved on and that's what we are seeing right now but that doesn't mean that we are at a position where it can be considered acceptable for Inter though, they are at a rough place and needed to win.

All in all Inter focused on UCL finals anyway, they are going to play against one of the best teams in the world, one of the historically most dominant teams, and if Inter can win that, it is just a dream season anyway, no matter where they finish the season.

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May 22, 2023, 09:16:54 PM
Last edit: May 22, 2023, 10:45:44 PM by Texac
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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845

This is of course some real corruption.  I bet the judge has been paid to make a decision like this.  and why do they have to take away 10 points from Juventus? ? they could just find money and punish them that way. This is some bullshit going on ! !

I really do not think the players will actually want to stay in Juventus after what has happened this season. what is the point of staying in a team which is not going to play in the Champions League even after finishing in the second position?  But probably that's what those people who made this decision actually want.

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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845
The initial prediction was 12 points but it looks like it changed to 10 points for the final decision.
But indeed this doesn't change anything, especially when they lost quite embarrassingly in this match because the score 4-1 was completely unpredictable.
This seems to be the result of their sense of frustration at dropping points in a league decision which left Juventus distracted and indeed they did very badly today.

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May 22, 2023, 09:26:11 PM
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lol . what happened in the serie A table this season. I can't believe the court gave such a bitter decision to Juventus that they had previously lifted the sentence. Indeed, bad luck again befalls Juventus and benefits other teams. I just checked the Serie A standings table and saw Juventus thrown into 7th place in the standings and they are 5 points adrift with AC Milan who are in 4th place.

I was more surprised after seeing the results of the Empoli vs Juventus match where Juventus failed again in this match and they even lost 4-1.
Tbis is happening again, their performnace decreased very bady after the decision. Well, the court decided to give the punishment again, reducing points. It, of course, hurts Juventus players and make them not motivated again, likely, no chance again. I am also surprose when seeing both results, the point reduction and also the result of the game, losing 4-1 is bad, moreover 1 of them was from penalty kick

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May 22, 2023, 09:26:37 PM
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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845
Juventus was in 2nd place, they dropped to 7th place now. And they also got defeated by Empoli today, I suspected it was caused by this bad announcement, too. I don't know why this point deduction must be announced before the match started, it was not the right time to announce it.

By the way, I am still a bit confused about the penalty imposed on Juventus. Should Juventus get 10 point deduction? Is there no other penalty option besides this deducting points? TBH, I don't think the deduction points deserve to be imposed by Juventus. If there are other options for the penalty, why don't to consider the other penalties?


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I feel like Napoli is basically dominating the whole league as a joke now. Like they are already the title winners and still showing how good they are even after they guaranteed it, they didn't need to do that and yet they still did it, that's an amazing situation. I believe that it is definitely not a big deal, we all knew that they were the best anyway and that's how it moved on and that's what we are seeing right now but that doesn't mean that we are at a position where it can be considered acceptable for Inter though, they are at a rough place and needed to win.

All in all Inter focused on UCL finals anyway, they are going to play against one of the best teams in the world, one of the historically most dominant teams, and if Inter can win that, it is just a dream season anyway, no matter where they finish the season.
Inter weren't able to save themselves from the defeat and the hassle of risking their Champions League spot in Serie A. Their chances to win UCL itself this season are weak..
Juventus were the other team that almost missed playing in UCL next season and soon Europa League too... Roma missed points too and risk to miss Europa League if they will continue like that.

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lol . what happened in the serie A table this season. I can't believe the court gave such a bitter decision to Juventus that they had previously lifted the sentence. Indeed, bad luck again befalls Juventus and benefits other teams. I just checked the Serie A standings table and saw Juventus thrown into 7th place in the standings and they are 5 points adrift with AC Milan who are in 4th place.

I was more surprised after seeing the results of the Empoli vs Juventus match where Juventus failed again in this match and they even lost 4-1. Juventus are really in a dilemma after this decision and for ac milan they are getting fresh air again because they are back in the top 4.
I think this is the final decision and Juventus must accept the harsh reality of this decision. Even though there were only a few more matches for Juventus this season, the court's decision made them fail to close the season in the top 4, even though if this decision was not given this season, of course they would have secured 1 ticket to the Champions League. But yes all this is their fault and they deserve to be punished.

For other teams, of course, you will get an increase of 1 rank above, such as Inter milan rising to rank 3 and Ac milan rising to rank 4. So there is still more interesting competition next week because if ac milan fails in the match against juventus then atalanta and roma will reduce the distance from ac milan in the next week.

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May 22, 2023, 09:53:26 PM
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I feel like Napoli is basically dominating the whole league as a joke now. Like they are already the title winners and still showing how good they are even after they guaranteed it, they didn't need to do that and yet they still did it, that's an amazing situation. I believe that it is definitely not a big deal, we all knew that they were the best anyway and that's how it moved on and that's what we are seeing right now but that doesn't mean that we are at a position where it can be considered acceptable for Inter though, they are at a rough place and needed to win.

All in all Inter focused on UCL finals anyway, they are going to play against one of the best teams in the world, one of the historically most dominant teams, and if Inter can win that, it is just a dream season anyway, no matter where they finish the season.

Napoli is of course not facing any competition. They are already the winner of the league. They are currently having fun.

Inter is in the third position and I don't think it will matter too much to them, to be honest. They have to concentrate on the Champions League final. That is the main target of them right now. They have to forget about everything else and concentrate on the final because there know they have a very hard opponent to beat in the champions league final.



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May 22, 2023, 09:57:52 PM
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Juventus have officially got a new punishment which is a 10-point reduction. In addition to that they got a horrible loss against Empoli today as well. Now they are even out of top six in the standings. From competing for the Champions League to this position... I guess this wouldn't also be the final decision about Juventus' point reduction. Maybe there would be still hope for them.

No matter what this season things haven't went their way clearly. They tried to do something in the Europa League but their performance was inadequate to even play a final game. I wonder if Allegri will get sacked for this or they will give one last chance.

That's a piece of bad news for Juventus because they lost the chance to be in the champions league while they were in the top league and now Juventus is at a place of the table in which they have to fight for the Europa League ticket, however since Juventus lost the 10 points Ac Milan is now on the fourth place of the table and they going to be in the next champions league.

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May 22, 2023, 10:22:16 PM
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I think this is the final decision and Juventus must accept the harsh reality of this decision. Even though there were only a few more matches for Juventus this season, the court's decision made them fail to close the season in the top 4, even though if this decision was not given this season, of course they would have secured 1 ticket to the Champions League. But yes all this is their fault and they deserve to be punished.

For other teams, of course, you will get an increase of 1 rank above, such as Inter milan rising to rank 3 and Ac milan rising to rank 4. So there is still more interesting competition next week because if ac milan fails in the match against juventus then atalanta and roma will reduce the distance from ac milan in the next week.
I even see that there are other sanctions that will ensnare Juventus this season or next season because they outsmarted the spending of salaries during Covid 19 and this case is still under investigation. I think this decision will affect the mentality of the Juventus players for the rest of the season.  moreover, they have just been eliminated from the Europa League and the defeat of today's match is most likely the impact of the negative results from the previous match which had a bad impact on them this week.

Besides that Lazio has secured 1 ticket to the champions league next season. Meaning that there are still two more teams that will follow Lazio and Napoli in the champions league most likely the two places will be inter milan and ac milan because they have a good chance after juventus slipped to 7th place.

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May 22, 2023, 10:33:58 PM
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The end of the season is nigh and I started wondering how Lukaku's future will be from now on. As you have seen recently there has been a significant level of improvement in his performance. He has started to make a serious contribution to the team whenever he has the chance. Inzaghi must also be happy to see him bringing back his old times at Inter slowly.

But I feel like this is a little late improvement for him to maintain his presence at Inter. He had to struggle with some injuries on one hand which didn't result in well for him. From being one of the most important players he has become an average player for Inter. I haven't heard a single word from Inter side like they are keen on extending his loan or signing him permanently. I assume he will continue his career with Chelsea.

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May 22, 2023, 10:39:16 PM
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Juventus have officially got a new punishment which is a 10-point reduction. In addition to that they got a horrible loss against Empoli today as well. Now they are even out of top six in the standings. From competing for the Champions League to this position... I guess this wouldn't also be the final decision about Juventus' point reduction. Maybe there would be still hope for them.

No matter what this season things haven't went their way clearly. They tried to do something in the Europa League but their performance was inadequate to even play a final game. I wonder if Allegri will get sacked for this or they will give one last chance.

That's a piece of bad news for Juventus because they lost the chance to be in the champions league while they were in the top league and now Juventus is at a place of the table in which they have to fight for the Europa League ticket, however since Juventus lost the 10 points Ac Milan is now on the fourth place of the table and they going to be in the next champions league.
It was a risk because indeed from the start after their appeal was successful when they got 15 points back they also still realized that the point was still very hot.
Now 10 points away and they also fell out of the game this time around which makes this a bit more complicated in my opinion.
Even if they can win today's match, they will immediately be in a better position because at least they can still get the Europa League.

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May 22, 2023, 10:56:33 PM
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Monday 22/05 will be the day for a new penalization for Juventus.
According to predictions, it will be 12 points, after then they will probably do an appeal again.

Yes, the justice here is a joke.

Close it has been 10 points, and it is not over yet.

Remember they got punishment for a rule it dosen't exist for a legal operation, where they can't defend themself, only by REVENGE from UEFA. Barca will be the next.

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I thought betting on Juventus was just throwing money away fast, but I avoided Juventus. Roll Eyes
from the first time Juventus' offense was lifted and getting second place in Serie A I felt skeptical and it was hard to believe Juventus because the performance of Juventus players was very bad and did not deserve to be ranked second in this Italian league and in the end it was proven that bad things happen after losing against Empoli with an embarrassing scoreline.
I will never believe that Juventus in the coming season will have a place in the Champions League with this very poor performance.
look at this score is very sad.

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This match is indeed difficult to predict because in the last match, Juventus managed to win up to four times in a row, but in this match against Empoli, it seems difficult for Juventus to win because the defense from Empoli, which is strong enough, only gives Juventus the opportunity to score one goal.This match should be an important lesson to update the strategy used to strengthen the defense and the attacking players of Juventus.

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May 22, 2023, 11:04:57 PM
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Damn. Now, seeing that Juventus is losing 0-2, I decided to check how strong their positions are in the standings, I decided to look at it and almost broke my head  Grin - 10 points were deducted from them again and it was difficult for me to understand why I don’t see them in the usual second place  Grin
The most stupid league that i have ever seen and this league full with uncertainty and inconsistency. Another bad news was coming again for juventus. It's actually break all of spirit that owned by juventus player. it's caused by we are coming very close to the end of season but anothet deduction wast coming again for juventus. No chance for juventus in UCL and all of its hopes drained in a short time. Lose three points + 10 points deduction.
Juventus loses now. It doesn't need to play in the remaining match again.

As I understand it, this is again not a final decision, and we will see the continuation of this clowning.
At the moment, we can only say that due to this penalty, everything is turned upside down and the only permutation in the top 4 is Juventus (and not Milan), which does not qualify for the Champions League and most likely even the Europa League.
Pretty much the same like the first deduction that already lifted before. Point deduction was not only ruining juventus's spot in UCL but it's also ruining all player's hope to play in UCL.

The news for 10 points deduction was coming at the same time when juventus players are fighting against empoli. That gives mentality breakdown from all of players during the match.
That's why empoli was able winning it caused by all of players lose their hope

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