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July 08, 2023, 03:10:06 PM
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The thing is, we cannot judge something simply based on feelings. I actually like the fact that you said that probably your assessment might not be objective because you hate José Mourinho.
Anyway, I also don't like him that much because I don’t think he is a very good coach if he does not have a very good squad. It is true that he did a decent job with Roma, but it cost a lot of money. He also knows that. He is trying to build a squad that is actually going to be good enough for him. And that's why he is spending money. Because he knows without a good squad, he will not be able to improve. At least not at the level which people might expect from him.
I don't judge by feeling
I judge by the results
I pay a lot, I want a lot.. did I get what I paid in the case of Jose Mourinho? No
look at Roma's performances before and during Mourinho, they are exactly the same

Well, you are right. Roma actually started improving a little in the middle of the season. But towards the end, they were not able to continue performing well. The inconsistency is still there. I was having a discussion irl with one of my friends about this same topic and he was saying that Barcelona also spent a lot of money and they did not get as much in return as they probably should have.

But my point is that Xavi is a relatively new coach compared to Jose Mourinho. I think we can expect better from a coach like him who is very experienced. Probably if he is given enough time he will be able to bring better results.

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July 08, 2023, 03:17:08 PM
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Napoli are entering a new era with Rudi Garcia next season. After a wonderful season with Spalletti I wasn't expecting him to part ways with Napoli this quickly. But lucky Napoli that Rudi Garcia and Spalletti are using the same system mostly. Rudi Garcia also uses a 4-3-3 Attacking formation style and this was his system with Roma in the past when he managed them as well. Rudi Garcia has come here from Al-Nassr by the way. He stayed for only one season there and now after 7 years he is back in Italy.

I don't expect to see big changes happening for Napoli due to the reason I mentioned. They are even likely to keep their most important players in the squad for now as well. This should be enough to keep them in the title race in the Serie A again.

My research indicates that Osimhen is the team's most clever player when it comes to goal scoring, thus if Napoli hadn't sold him, they would have had a very good team for the upcoming season. There are many teammates that can help the squad score goals, but none of them are as smart as Osimhen. Additionally, changing coaches might benefit the club, but if the group is weak, nobody will be able to understand the coach's formation, and the game will appear strange.
The reason I'm saying this is because many teams are vying for Osimhen with large sums of money, which will force Napoli to sell Osimhen. If they sell him inadvertently, however, it will affect the team. Therefore, my advice is that Napoli should not sell Osimhen and whenever they do want to, they should acquire a good striker player first.

Interesting and it seems, Rudi Garcia is also accustomed or has experience in becoming a head coach at a club that plays in Serie A. Thus, then at least Rudi Garcia might be quick to build a good squad and of course, suitable to be applied in the Serie A style of play. But even so, i personally will not quickly have high hopes for Rudi Garcia at Napoli next season, because i think to build a strong and consistent team to be able to compete in the top four will certainly not be easy. But yes, if Napoli can keep Victor Osimhen maybe it can be a guarantee for Napoli to have a good performance. But because the transfer window is still long closed then who knows, maybe at the end of the transfer window there will be a club that will really bring Victor Osimhen, because everything is not certain.

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July 08, 2023, 03:18:41 PM
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Indeed Rudi Garcia will be the person most responsible for maintaining Napoli's consistency in the next season and I hope that if he doesn't give the same expectations as what the fans want, I hope everyone can understand that. Moreover, Rudi Garcia is not a perfect person and managing Napoli with the pride of all his fans is not easy.
although some people believe that Rudi Garcia is a coach who can bring new changes to Napoli, I'm not sure. we know that Spalletti has a lot of experience and to make a good contribution to Napoli takes a little time while Rudi Garcia doesn't have too much experience yet and hopes to be able to make a difference for Napoli? let's see what happens but a little skeptical of Rudi Garcia.

I thought that Napoli would be able to bring in a well known coach who has achieved great success in the past, but this change is not very special in my opinion. It is an ok change from Spalletti to Garcia. Napoli played such a great season that their ambitions will be high again, but is Garcia the right man for that?

What is Spalletti now doing and did his contract terminate or did he or the club decide to part ways? So far it seems that he didn't sign a new contract when I try to google for it.
I wouldn't want to sound disrespectful to Rudi Garcia but I don't think he's the best man for the managerial position at Napoli after the departure of Spalletti.
Napoli needs a manager who can perfectly maintain the kind of confidence that's been initiated by the outgone manager Spalletti which I don't think Rudi Garcia can do it. It is one thing to win the title but a whole different thing to retain and I don't think Rudi Garcia can help the club retain the title

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July 08, 2023, 03:41:21 PM
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Indeed Rudi Garcia will be the person most responsible for maintaining Napoli's consistency in the next season and I hope that if he doesn't give the same expectations as what the fans want, I hope everyone can understand that. Moreover, Rudi Garcia is not a perfect person and managing Napoli with the pride of all his fans is not easy.
although some people believe that Rudi Garcia is a coach who can bring new changes to Napoli, I'm not sure. we know that Spalletti has a lot of experience and to make a good contribution to Napoli takes a little time while Rudi Garcia doesn't have too much experience yet and hopes to be able to make a difference for Napoli? let's see what happens but a little skeptical of Rudi Garcia.
To be honest, I am not so sure about Rudi Garcia in managing Napoli and it is possible that what Napoli achieved last season they will not be able to maintain from next season. But sometimes a coach who doesn't have as much experience as Rudi Garcia can surprise and give positive results for Napoli, what about later when that is achieved and try to always maintain it. Apart from that, there is certainly no shortage of Napoli's main squad for next season and if a player leaves, it will certainly add to the burden that will be borne by Rudi Garcia.

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July 08, 2023, 04:24:40 PM
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Indeed Rudi Garcia will be the person most responsible for maintaining Napoli's consistency in the next season and I hope that if he doesn't give the same expectations as what the fans want, I hope everyone can understand that. Moreover, Rudi Garcia is not a perfect person and managing Napoli with the pride of all his fans is not easy.
although some people believe that Rudi Garcia is a coach who can bring new changes to Napoli, I'm not sure. we know that Spalletti has a lot of experience and to make a good contribution to Napoli takes a little time while Rudi Garcia doesn't have too much experience yet and hopes to be able to make a difference for Napoli? let's see what happens but a little skeptical of Rudi Garcia.
I thought that Napoli would be able to bring in a well known coach who has achieved great success in the past, but this change is not very special in my opinion. It is an ok change from Spalletti to Garcia. Napoli played such a great season that their ambitions will be high again, but is Garcia the right man for that?
What is Spalletti now doing and did his contract terminate or did he or the club decide to part ways? So far it seems that he didn't sign a new contract when I try to google for it.
I wouldn't want to sound disrespectful to Rudi Garcia but I don't think he's the best man for the managerial position at Napoli after the departure of Spalletti.
Napoli needs a manager who can perfectly maintain the kind of confidence that's been initiated by the outgone manager Spalletti which I don't think Rudi Garcia can do it. It is one thing to win the title but a whole different thing to retain and I don't think Rudi Garcia can help the club retain the title

I agree with you. We have seen great work from Spalletti last season. He was able to keep the players of the squad confident. This is why Napoli has been able to play consistently well and dominate Serie A. Spalletti was friendly with the players. He was able to spot the weaknesses within the squad easily. I don't think new coach Rudi Garcia can do that. Also, several key players in Napoli's squad have left the team. Overall I think we won't see the dominance of Napoli in Serie A next season.

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July 08, 2023, 04:59:52 PM
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This is getting weird that a player like Osimhen with his young age and good performance he had in Napoli didn't get any official offers and the only team close to hiring this player is Liverpool while Osimhen can even think about Real Madrid or Bayern Munich for the next season.
I think if somehow Osimhen doesn't accept any offer to join any team in the future Napoli can have the chance to use this player for the next season, otherwise finding a player at this level for a team like Napoli can't be easy at all.  

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Inter Milan comeback under their charismatic coach has been a magnificent sight that has won over supporters all around the world. They faced Juventus in the finals which was a fascinating ride that showed off their great teamwork and tenacity. Romelu Lukaku suspension being lifted added to the excitement around the second match. His comeback makes Inter Milan lineup which was already strong even more strong, which gives hope for their sustained success in the upcoming season. The decision to relieve Lukaku suspension by the president of the Italian Football Federation further establishes Inter Milan position and paves the way for an exciting future for the team.
Chelsea opened a chance for juventus to get lukaku. Intermilan is not even talking even further regarding lukaku's transfer with chelsea. I think that juventus is now having the biggest chance to get lukaku. Intermilan is still busy with onana's transfer.

Ceo of intermilan said the club has put lukaku as the main target but so far there's no realization to make him as permanent striker for intermilan. It will be so amazing if juventus will able to get him.

I really support lukaku to open his heart for the new club that wants him. Juventus has been showing its serious commitment to make him as permanent player instead of intermilan.

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July 08, 2023, 05:29:49 PM
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I wouldn't want to sound disrespectful to Rudi Garcia but I don't think he's the best man for the managerial position at Napoli after the departure of Spalletti.
Napoli needs a manager who can perfectly maintain the kind of confidence that's been initiated by the outgone manager Spalletti which I don't think Rudi Garcia can do it. It is one thing to win the title but a whole different thing to retain and I don't think Rudi Garcia can help the club retain the title

It's free to say about the fact. We can't deny what you said above was actually true. It's caused by rudi garcia being sacked by al nassr. I don't even think napoli was taking the right choice to sign him. In my understand if the old history of rudi with as roma could not be taken as a reliable evidence to sign him as a coach. Even if he has experienced in the italian league and it must be in the past and not for now. The decision to appoint Rudi, instead of a more seasoned coach like Antonio Conte, to manage Napoli is quite unusual.
I prefer to pick conte which has a better experience in serie a rather than him. Napoli has also ever nominated galtier as a new coach but glad to heard that osimhen was preventing the club to sign him as a new coach.

I see no reason for napoli picked him as a coach but napoli did it. It makes me feel curious how good he will be coaching the club. I can't be patience waiting for the pre match to come sooner.

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July 08, 2023, 05:48:31 PM
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I agree with you. We have seen great work from Spalletti last season. He was able to keep the players of the squad confident. This is why Napoli has been able to play consistently well and dominate Serie A. Spalletti was friendly with the players. He was able to spot the weaknesses within the squad easily. I don't think new coach Rudi Garcia can do that. Also, several key players in Napoli's squad have left the team. Overall I think we won't see the dominance of Napoli in Serie A next season.
I agree, most likely Napoli will not be able to repeat their success in Serie A. Spalletti was good in Napoli, but such an understanding between the coach and the players does not always arise, you remember the times when Spalletti was the coach of Roma. Then there were many conflicts between the coach and the players, and what is the conflict between Spalletti and Totti worth. In those days, Spalletti was perceived by me rather negatively. Sometimes it happens that all the components add up and an excellent result is obtained, which seems impossible to repeat again.

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July 08, 2023, 06:15:28 PM
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This is getting weird that a player like Osimhen with his young age and good performance he had in Napoli didn't get any official offers and the only team close to hiring this player is Liverpool while Osimhen can even think about Real Madrid or Bayern Munich for the next season.
I think if somehow Osimhen doesn't accept any offer to join any team in the future Napoli can have the chance to use this player for the next season, otherwise finding a player at this level for a team like Napoli can't be easy at all.  

Actually some teams are interested in bringing Victor Osimhen like Real Madrid and Manchester United but the problem is that Napoli does not want to release Osimhen if it's under €100 million while other clubs consider the price too expensive, until finally Napoli and Osimhen were close to the agreement for a new contract extension so this season 2023/2024 can be sure that Victor Osimhen will not move anywhere. I wonder why they think €100 million is too expensive although Napoli spent €75 million to bring Osimhen that's normal if Napoli benefit from its release.

I am curious about the performance of Osimhen the following season under the new coach Rudi Garcia, if he is able to get a top scorer for the second time then I'm sure the price of the release is definitely more than 150 million.

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July 08, 2023, 06:32:19 PM
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Actually some teams are interested in bringing Victor Osimhen like Real Madrid and Manchester United but the problem is that Napoli does not want to release Osimhen if it's under €100 million while other clubs consider the price too expensive, until finally Napoli and Osimhen were close to the agreement for a new contract extension so this season 2023/2024 can be sure that Victor Osimhen will not move anywhere. I wonder why they think €100 million is too expensive although Napoli spent €75 million to bring Osimhen that's normal if Napoli benefit from its release.

I am curious about the performance of Osimhen the following season under the new coach Rudi Garcia, if he is able to get a top scorer for the second time then I'm sure the price of the release is definitely more than 150 million.

Yes, with current market prices, 100 million for a young player (presumably a top striker) is the usual price. If Osimhen proves his qualification for the second season in a row, then his price will indeed be no less than the amount you named. And I think this development of events is the most likely - if you look at his statistics, he is making steady progress, it can hardly be called a "good season" or a one-time surge.

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July 08, 2023, 07:22:27 PM
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Actually some teams are interested in bringing Victor Osimhen like Real Madrid and Manchester United but the problem is that Napoli does not want to release Osimhen if it's under €100 million while other clubs consider the price too expensive, until finally Napoli and Osimhen were close to the agreement for a new contract extension so this season 2023/2024 can be sure that Victor Osimhen will not move anywhere. I wonder why they think €100 million is too expensive although Napoli spent €75 million to bring Osimhen that's normal if Napoli benefit from its release.

I am curious about the performance of Osimhen the following season under the new coach Rudi Garcia, if he is able to get a top scorer for the second time then I'm sure the price of the release is definitely more than 150 million.

Yes, with current market prices, 100 million for a young player (presumably a top striker) is the usual price. If Osimhen proves his qualification for the second season in a row, then his price will indeed be no less than the amount you named. And I think this development of events is the most likely - if you look at his statistics, he is making steady progress, it can hardly be called a "good season" or a one-time surge.

Maybe they still have doubts about Osimhen, doubts like the performance might not be as expected or something like it would be a disappointment if they spend that much money. In fact, if they believe Osimhen can provide good results and or performance for the team, then of course they will still be able to spend that much money to get Osimhen. But yes, it seems that one of the things that is a consideration and a concern too is, if in fact Osimhen really wanted to leave in this transfer market and it didn't materialize. So maybe this will also have an unfavorable impact on Osimhen's performance later, because he no longer has the comfort of the previous season.

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July 08, 2023, 07:26:15 PM
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This is getting weird that a player like Osimhen with his young age and good performance he had in Napoli didn't get any official offers and the only team close to hiring this player is Liverpool while Osimhen can even think about Real Madrid or Bayern Munich for the next season.
I think if somehow Osimhen doesn't accept any offer to join any team in the future Napoli can have the chance to use this player for the next season, otherwise finding a player at this level for a team like Napoli can't be easy at all.  

Actually some teams are interested in bringing Victor Osimhen like Real Madrid and Manchester United but the problem is that Napoli does not want to release Osimhen if it's under €100 million while other clubs consider the price too expensive, until finally Napoli and Osimhen were close to the agreement for a new contract extension so this season 2023/2024 can be sure that Victor Osimhen will not move anywhere. I wonder why they think €100 million is too expensive although Napoli spent €75 million to bring Osimhen that's normal if Napoli benefit from its release.

I am curious about the performance of Osimhen the following season under the new coach Rudi Garcia, if he is able to get a top scorer for the second time then I'm sure the price of the release is definitely more than 150 million.
If i was in Napoli management i wouldnt sell him below 100mil. He is in his prime now and dominating and probobly next to Haaland the best striker in the world. Real Madrid probobly wont waste that amount of money. Man Utd maybe but still i think he is really expensive at the moment and will probobly stay in Napoli for another season.
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July 08, 2023, 07:29:17 PM
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I don't expect to see big changes happening for Napoli due to the reason I mentioned. They are even likely to keep their most important players in the squad for now as well. This should be enough to keep them in the title race in the Serie A again.

They will only be in the title race but I doubt they (Napoli) can do as much as they did last season, especially their manager is not Spalletti anymore. There will be a lot of changes going on there later, I just hope they're not the same as Chelsea in the EPL who are a big team that has slumped. If that happens, of course people will be confused by the setback they are experiencing.

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July 08, 2023, 07:40:18 PM
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This is getting weird that a player like Osimhen with his young age and good performance he had in Napoli didn't get any official offers and the only team close to hiring this player is Liverpool while Osimhen can even think about Real Madrid or Bayern Munich for the next season.
I think if somehow Osimhen doesn't accept any offer to join any team in the future Napoli can have the chance to use this player for the next season, otherwise finding a player at this level for a team like Napoli can't be easy at all.  
Maybe too expensive Sir, because the rumors are Napoli can release Osimhen if there is an offer above £ 120 million, quite expensive but maybe that is Napoli strategy because after all they are not willing to lose Osimhen in this summer transfer window. Every season Osimhen performance has improved at Napoli, without that man Napoli certainly would not have won the Scudetto. So it makes sense that the price was increased and may will be retained for the new season, also Napoli will also find it difficult to get a new striker who can replace Osimhen position.

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July 08, 2023, 07:48:29 PM
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Indeed Rudi Garcia will be the person most responsible for maintaining Napoli's consistency in the next season and I hope that if he doesn't give the same expectations as what the fans want, I hope everyone can understand that. Moreover, Rudi Garcia is not a perfect person and managing Napoli with the pride of all his fans is not easy.
although some people believe that Rudi Garcia is a coach who can bring new changes to Napoli, I'm not sure. we know that Spalletti has a lot of experience and to make a good contribution to Napoli takes a little time while Rudi Garcia doesn't have too much experience yet and hopes to be able to make a difference for Napoli? let's see what happens but a little skeptical of Rudi Garcia.

I thought that Napoli would be able to bring in a well known coach who has achieved great success in the past, but this change is not very special in my opinion. It is an ok change from Spalletti to Garcia. Napoli played such a great season that their ambitions will be high again, but is Garcia the right man for that?

What is Spalletti now doing and did his contract terminate or did he or the club decide to part ways? So far it seems that he didn't sign a new contract when I try to google for it.
I wouldn't want to sound disrespectful to Rudi Garcia but I don't think he's the best man for the managerial position at Napoli after the departure of Spalletti.
Napoli needs a manager who can perfectly maintain the kind of confidence that's been initiated by the outgone manager Spalletti which I don't think Rudi Garcia can do it. It is one thing to win the title but a whole different thing to retain and I don't think Rudi Garcia can help the club retain the title

That is the problem I have with managers who are supposed to achieve something that the team itself has never achieved before and the manager has also never been there. I think in these constellations it becomes critical as soon as some weakness comes to the surface during the season, when the team starts to struggle without any good reason. That is the time for a coach to bring in all the experience from difficult situations that he has gone through. That is authentic and trustworthy. If a coach doesn't have that experience, it is much harder to convince a team of something to be possible that seems rather impossible. It's a difference if Guardiola or Mourinho or Klopp tell you that a game is not lost or someone like Garcia.

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July 08, 2023, 08:01:04 PM
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I agree with you. We have seen great work from Spalletti last season. He was able to keep the players of the squad confident. This is why Napoli has been able to play consistently well and dominate Serie A. Spalletti was friendly with the players. He was able to spot the weaknesses within the squad easily. I don't think new coach Rudi Garcia can do that. Also, several key players in Napoli's squad have left the team. Overall I think we won't see the dominance of Napoli in Serie A next season.
I agree, most likely Napoli will not be able to repeat their success in Serie A. Spalletti was good in Napoli, but such an understanding between the coach and the players does not always arise, you remember the times when Spalletti was the coach of Roma. Then there were many conflicts between the coach and the players, and what is the conflict between Spalletti and Totti worth. In those days, Spalletti was perceived by me rather negatively. Sometimes it happens that all the components add up and an excellent result is obtained, which seems impossible to repeat again.
Rudi Garcia may not be able to be like the old Napoli coach but I'm sure that Rudi Garcia will provide new experiences and give the best for Napoli even though one day there is a conflict that is a common problem in football.
But what is certain is that we have to try to give Rudi Garcia confidence that everything will be fine and hope that success can be achieved again like when he was with Spalleti.

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July 08, 2023, 08:04:54 PM
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Maybe too expensive Sir, because the rumors are Napoli can release Osimhen if there is an offer above £ 120 million, quite expensive but maybe that is Napoli strategy because after all they are not willing to lose Osimhen in this summer transfer window. Every season Osimhen performance has improved at Napoli, without that man Napoli certainly would not have won the Scudetto. So it makes sense that the price was increased and may will be retained for the new season, also Napoli will also find it difficult to get a new striker who can replace Osimhen position.

I have similar opinion; with a new coach in Napoli i do not think they are willing to lose any of their star players. Osimhen will remain in Napoli for atleast an extra season as Napoli tries to do win the Italian serie a back to back times. Also, i think 120M for Victor Osimhen is cheap
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July 08, 2023, 08:11:08 PM
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I have similar opinion; with a new coach in Napoli i do not think they are willing to lose any of their star players. Osimhen will remain in Napoli for atleast an extra season as Napoli tries to do win the Italian serie a back to back times. Also, i think 120M for Victor Osimhen is cheap
Napoli appoints former Al-Nasser coach, Rudi Garcia as their new head coach, he's a good replacement for Luciano Spalleti. Napoli performance next season would not decline, they will try to maintain their peak. The club is cooperated and they will even strive harder to achieve more titles. Their top striker, Victor Osimhen is a prominent striker in the club and his presence brings tough threats in the minds of his opponents. The Nigerian borne striker is valued over €120million, I do think he's overhyped because he's only consistent the previous season which his club won the scudetto after 33 years.

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July 08, 2023, 08:32:14 PM
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I have similar opinion; with a new coach in Napoli i do not think they are willing to lose any of their star players. Osimhen will remain in Napoli for atleast an extra season as Napoli tries to do win the Italian serie a back to back times. Also, i think 120M for Victor Osimhen is cheap
Napoli appoints former Al-Nasser coach, Rudi Garcia as their new head coach, he's a good replacement for Luciano Spalleti. Napoli performance next season would not decline, they will try to maintain their peak. The club is cooperated and they will even strive harder to achieve more titles. Their top striker, Victor Osimhen is a prominent striker in the club and his presence brings tough threats in the minds of his opponents. The Nigerian borne striker is valued over €120million, I do think he's overhyped because he's only consistent the previous season which his club won the scudetto after 33 years.

The change of Napoli's coach will be a big strength with the new strategy that will be used. We all know Napoli reigns over the top of the Serie A standings and leaves all the teams with the highest points tally. By having a TOP striker like Victor Osimhen Napoli are confident to continue to pose a threat to their opponents.
Victor Osimhen also seems to be a threat to other clubs such as Real Madrid who are planning to be given a salary of 100 million Euros, but Napoli gave a salary of 120 million Euros so he can sign a long contract for Napoli. Apart from Victor Osimhen, Napoli captain Giovanni Di Lorenzo is also one step away from signing a long-term contract with Napoli. this proves that Napoli will not give up its great players just like that. president Aurelio De Laurentiis doesn't want a complete overhaul, so is working on new contracts for a handful of players.

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