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December 02, 2022, 12:49:58 PM
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The very bad performance of Germany in World Cup can affect Bayern Munich too. Germany have many players from Bayern and look at their performances in World Cup, it is not good for Bayern when they meet PSG in Champions League.

Of course it will have an impact. First of all, Bayern can train with a full squad much earlier. Then no one will be injured either. But I would not say that the players are now playing worse at Bayern Munich. In the national team, it was not just the palyers from Bayern Munich. Hansi Flick did not manage to form a team from the individual players.

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December 02, 2022, 01:02:13 PM
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The very bad performance of Germany in World Cup can affect Bayern Munich too. Germany have many players from Bayern and look at their performances in World Cup, it is not good for Bayern when they meet PSG in Champions League.

Of course it will have an impact. First of all, Bayern can train with a full squad much earlier. Then no one will be injured either. But I would not say that the players are now playing worse at Bayern Munich. In the national team, it was not just the palyers from Bayern Munich. Hansi Flick did not manage to form a team from the individual players.
to say the least it will affect the mentality of their players but they have plenty of time before facing psg in the round of 16.  maybe I don't think Bayern will face big problems to form a squad to perform better when the league returns. indeed the elimination of Germany in this world cup was very surprising because Germany had high quality players in their team. but I think Julian Nagelsmann is a coach who is able to arouse extraordinary enthusiasm in his players, of course he can succeed in bringing Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga to become the most consistent team when the league resumed after the world cup and in the Champions League, Bayern Munich is a very superior team to win the game against psg.

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December 02, 2022, 01:41:05 PM
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The very bad performance of Germany in World Cup can affect Bayern Munich too. Germany have many players from Bayern and look at their performances in World Cup, it is not good for Bayern when they meet PSG in Champions League.

Of course it will have an impact. First of all, Bayern can train with a full squad much earlier. Then no one will be injured either. But I would not say that the players are now playing worse at Bayern Munich. In the national team, it was not just the palyers from Bayern Munich. Hansi Flick did not manage to form a team from the individual players.
You are right, indeed Bayern Munich is a team that sends a lot of players to Germany. But in terms of games, they were better when they played at Bayern Munich than when they played in Germany. Moreover, the strategic factor will also greatly affect the form of their game. I also see that Nagelsmann and Hansi Flick differ in terms of strategy. It will have an impact maybe, but it won't be significant in my opinion.

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December 02, 2022, 01:52:25 PM
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to say the least it will affect the mentality of their players but they have plenty of time before facing psg in the round of 16. 

Sure. That also comes into it. They will be sad and need a few days. But they are professionals and should then concentrate on their club again. Besides, the European Championships are in 2 years and they will have enough time to advertise themselves again. But now they have a month off until they go back to Qatar.

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December 02, 2022, 01:58:52 PM
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The very bad performance of Germany in World Cup can affect Bayern Munich too. Germany have many players from Bayern and look at their performances in World Cup, it is not good for Bayern when they meet PSG in Champions League.

Of course it will have an impact. First of all, Bayern can train with a full squad much earlier. Then no one will be injured either. But I would not say that the players are now playing worse at Bayern Munich. In the national team, it was not just the palyers from Bayern Munich. Hansi Flick did not manage to form a team from the individual players.
You are right, indeed Bayern Munich is a team that sends a lot of players to Germany. But in terms of games, they were better when they played at Bayern Munich than when they played in Germany. Moreover, the strategic factor will also greatly affect the form of their game. I also see that Nagelsmann and Hansi Flick differ in terms of strategy. It will have an impact maybe, but it won't be significant in my opinion.
You are right, Bayern Munich club has the most German players. Who have been giving good support to Bayern Munich for a long time. However, one of the best players in their team currently, Sadio Mane, is one of the best players in the Senegal national team, he will be able to give the club a lot.

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December 02, 2022, 02:06:51 PM
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The main homework of several teams such as Bayern Munich and Paris Saint Grmain is the Champions League, they don't need to be doubted in the domestic league because they have enough strength to defend their current title. But when moving to the Champions League it will be something different, this is inseparable from the competition in the Champions League is very tight. Once they make a mistake they will receive a penalty by being eliminated by the other team.
The two teams always give their best contribution to play well so as not to make even the slightest mistake because indeed when a small mistake occurs it will be taken advantage of by the opposing team who is ready to attack, Bayern Munich managed to maintain its best position to stay on top while for Paris Saint Germain still can't get successive wins like Bayern Munich did.
Despite the fact that PSG have all the best players in the world,they cannot convincingly win a big team like Bayern or Manchester city.They are very strong upfront,but when they play a composed team that has team spirit,they find it very difficult to win such team.
They are always been knocked out by teams that are more organised.The champions league is what they are really fighting for now to win but I still think it will be impossible for them to win it because they lack team work,and the fact that they are fighting for supremacy in the team.
Currently, I would say, PSG's attack is one of the best. Because one of their attacking players is Messi, Neymar Mbappe. Those three are three category players. Neymar is a very skilled player who can evade any defense and get the ball inside the d-box. It cannot be overstated that Messi is the single best playmaker in the world. And Mbappé is a very fast striker.

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The main homework of several teams such as Bayern Munich and Paris Saint Grmain is the Champions League, they don't need to be doubted in the domestic league because they have enough strength to defend their current title. But when moving to the Champions League it will be something different, this is inseparable from the competition in the Champions League is very tight. Once they make a mistake they will receive a penalty by being eliminated by the other team.
The two teams always give their best contribution to play well so as not to make even the slightest mistake because indeed when a small mistake occurs it will be taken advantage of by the opposing team who is ready to attack, Bayern Munich managed to maintain its best position to stay on top while for Paris Saint Germain still can't get successive wins like Bayern Munich did.
You'r right but that might be different case as it was on the champion league but munchen was doing so good during the season. Bayern has been aiming some players from another team in the bundesliga. that will make bayern can't be beaten as some clubs will be loosing their key players.
Bayern is serious to win the tittle for this season. Both PSG and bayern were always dominating the league in their own nations. It seems like that bayern has very big chance to win again.

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December 02, 2022, 02:08:32 PM
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It's true that Bayern had the most players from their club in germany squad but it's also true that Bayern have a really rough internal season and some of players simply don't have the passion and hunger for trophies anymore so I think is end of the road for some of Manschaft players.

Another important aspect that I've saw in this 3 games of Germany squad is that they have way too many players with big ego's that each of them wants to be the important one so I guess Sane , Gnabry and Havertz will have to find a solution between them or this generation won't bring any joy to German fans and football in general.

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December 02, 2022, 02:39:37 PM
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to say the least it will affect the mentality of their players but they have plenty of time before facing psg in the round of 16.

Sure. That also comes into it. They will be sad and need a few days. But they are professionals and should then concentrate on their club again. Besides, the European Championships are in 2 years and they will have enough time to advertise themselves again. But now they have a month off until they go back to Qatar.
Germany elimination from this year world cup quickly surprised us all, even though previously Germany was considered one of the favorite teams to win this year world cup but in fact they were eliminated in the group phase, so far Germany has been dominated by Bayern players but somehow as if there is not visible cohesiveness in the German national team like when the player played for Munich, I think the current German era is over and Germany must evaluating their players and it is better to focus on young talents in the European Championship later.

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December 02, 2022, 03:01:03 PM
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First of all, they lost Robert Lewandowski. Then after that, Choupo Moting seems to be playing quite decently. Even though he was not able to fill the void that was left by Robert Lewandowski, but he was at least trying to do what his team needed him to do. I do not know if Füllkrug will be able to produce what even Choupo Moting was producing. This has been a very sad situation for Bayern Munich. They wanted to improve their attacking capabilities by bringing in a competent player with the money that they got by selling Robert Lewandowski. But that plan absolutely failed.

With the money that Bavaria received from the sale of Lewandowski, it is impossible to buy anyone at all who would correspond to the level of Bavaria. But Bavaria has no shortage of money and can afford much more expensive purchases and I hope they accept this reality that the "cheap" options have run out. I think that Füllkrug is just a cheap option that doesn't fix anything. If you make a purchase, then it must have some meaning.
Bayern Munich is very careful in spending their money, they will not spend money on players of standard quality.
Bayern Munich is not a club that is in financial trouble, the sale of Lewandowski is not much with the cash they currently have. If they bring in players for short-term targets as a coating option for injured key players, they will choose free transfer players. Reportedly Bayern Munich are starting to be interested in signing Ronaldo after his status as a free transfer player, Bayern Munich does not need to spend money to sign Ronaldo as an option to replace the injured Mane.

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December 02, 2022, 03:05:48 PM
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The main homework of several teams such as Bayern Munich and Paris Saint Grmain is the Champions League, they don't need to be doubted in the domestic league because they have enough strength to defend their current title. But when moving to the Champions League it will be something different, this is inseparable from the competition in the Champions League is very tight. Once they make a mistake they will receive a penalty by being eliminated by the other team.
The two teams always give their best contribution to play well so as not to make even the slightest mistake because indeed when a small mistake occurs it will be taken advantage of by the opposing team who is ready to attack, Bayern Munich managed to maintain its best position to stay on top while for Paris Saint Germain still can't get successive wins like Bayern Munich did.
Despite the fact that PSG have all the best players in the world,they cannot convincingly win a big team like Bayern or Manchester city.They are very strong upfront,but when they play a composed team that has team spirit,they find it very difficult to win such team.
They are always been knocked out by teams that are more organised.The champions league is what they are really fighting for now to win but I still think it will be impossible for them to win it because they lack team work,and the fact that they are fighting for supremacy in the team.
Bayern Munich is always strong.  The opposing team can be Manchester City, Real Madrid or Psg, it doesn't matter.  Even in such matches, Bayern is a team that he does not want to see as an opponent against the teams I mentioned.  They did not start the league well, but this problem can be experienced in every team.  Now they are better and playing successful matches as a team.  They are one of the strongest teams in the champions league and I think they will work hard to win the league championship and these two cups together.

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December 02, 2022, 03:07:56 PM
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We have seen a lot of teams across the different leagues showing some surprising results at the start of the season. But as days pass by teams that are weaker start to perform worse and worse. Therefore, they end up near the middle of the table at the end of the season. I think that is what is going to happen with Union Berlin. They started the season well. But they are not being able to perform well when it matters which is basically throughout the whole season. I am honestly going to be surprised if they actually end up in the top four. Because I believe that there are other teams that are stronger compared to them. The points difference between the teams ahead of Union Berlin is not very big though. So, I think there will still be hope.

Actually, you are right, we see that teams that are not very strong in the first weeks of many leagues can score very well. The important thing is that this situation continues and that we can win the matches throughout the league. This is how Union Berlin started the league and was admired by many, but has lost points in recent weeks.

I think the team can regain their previous performance when the matches start again and fight to stay ahead of Dortmund, as I said before, it is not impossible to stay in the top 5. We can continue to watch them as one of the surprise teams of this year Smiley

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December 02, 2022, 03:18:12 PM
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The two teams always give their best contribution to play well so as not to make even the slightest mistake because indeed when a small mistake occurs it will be taken advantage of by the opposing team who is ready to attack, Bayern Munich managed to maintain its best position to stay on top while for Paris Saint Germain still can't get successive wins like Bayern Munich did.
Despite the fact that PSG have all the best players in the world,they cannot convincingly win a big team like Bayern or Manchester city.They are very strong upfront,but when they play a composed team that has team spirit,they find it very difficult to win such team.
They are always been knocked out by teams that are more organised.The champions league is what they are really fighting for now to win but I still think it will be impossible for them to win it because they lack team work,and the fact that they are fighting for supremacy in the team.
PSG is surely one of the best club with top quality players in the team but sadly due to internal issues and lack of consistency blocking them to have success in the Champions League but in this season we are having improvement which is helping them to having better results and players combination is also improved because things looking better but still no guarantee for win the title in the Champions League because here we have many tough clubs those are also having quality and performance which can create problems for them.

With in February they are going to face a team like Bayern Munich which is organized and having enough firepower to beat any team, it looks like this could be a final with winner could be in pole position for the title race.

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December 02, 2022, 03:30:32 PM
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The very bad performance of Germany in World Cup can affect Bayern Munich too. Germany have many players from Bayern and look at their performances in World Cup, it is not good for Bayern when they meet PSG in Champions League.

The bad ability to score goals in World Cup of Germany have contributions from Bayern players too. Their club will have to seriously filter good strikers in January transfer market and buy one to fill in a position left by Lewandowski, then Mane. Choupo-Moting is not a striker who is reliable enough in big matches. He did not get a position to play in PSG before moving to Bayern.
I would guess that being in the national team and being in the club is not the same thing. Being in the national team means that you play with the same players and still play differently with them, and that's what you do not expect, it makes it harder, even other players who you do not play with is better because you learn from scratch at least, but the ones you normally play and differently, end up being the hardest.

I guess that they are not really that much worried about this as a club, sure the players must be sad, and the fans are Germans so they are sad too, but the club will do fine no matter whatever has happened in the world cup.
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After Borussia Dortmund finished their Asia tour they have announced that they are currently planning a tour to the USA in the summer. Since American football (NFL) also wants to gain a footstep in Germany this step from Dortmund makes sense.
During their tour in Asia Dortmund surprisingly lost the last game against the Vietnam national team with 1-2.

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December 02, 2022, 04:28:23 PM
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to say the least it will affect the mentality of their players but they have plenty of time before facing psg in the round of 16.  maybe I don't think Bayern will face big problems to form a squad to perform better when the league returns. indeed the elimination of Germany in this world cup was very surprising because Germany had high quality players in their team. but I think Julian Nagelsmann is a coach who is able to arouse extraordinary enthusiasm in his players, of course he can succeed in bringing Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga to become the most consistent team when the league resumed after the world cup and in the Champions League, Bayern Munich is a very superior team to win the game against psg.
With the elimination of Germany most chances no club is going to have any negative impact or players could be also faced no problem because recently they are going down in quality which is creating problems for them as well now it's second time in a row they are having this embarrassment hopefully we will have better results and good changes in coming months for the future events.

Now, we have another challenge as Bayern Munich is going to face Paris Sant in coming months which is surely going to have another big challenge with most of the Bayern Munich players were in German squad, but hopefully things could be ok and they mentality will be also settled before this big match Julian Nagelsmann is doing good job after poor start of the season, and he will be gone with strong strategy which will help their team for having success.

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December 02, 2022, 04:33:55 PM
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Sure. That also comes into it. They will be sad and need a few days. But they are professionals and should then concentrate on their club again. Besides, the European Championships are in 2 years and they will have enough time to advertise themselves again. But now they have a month off until they go back to Qatar.
Germany elimination from this year world cup quickly surprised us all, even though previously Germany was considered one of the favorite teams to win this year world cup but in fact they were eliminated in the group phase, so far Germany has been dominated by Bayern players but somehow as if there is not visible cohesiveness in the German national team like when the player played for Munich, I think the current German era is over and Germany must evaluating their players and it is better to focus on young talents in the European Championship later.

IMO, the Bayern players who play for the German national team, played pretty well. however, the German national team did not have a pure striker who was ready for this championship. after all, the German national team is currently in the renewal of its players. although the German Squad is dominated by Bayern players, the coaches and strategies are not the same and you have to be able to tell the difference.

Apart from that, I don't understand the patterns and strategies implemented by the coach of the German national team, Flick, he has several names as a center forward. but in the last two matches, Flick has always played Muller as a center forward. if Flick is not confident about his young players like Kai Harvertz or Youssoufa Moukoko, he still has an attacker who is more ready to use, namely Niclas Fullkrug and he has proven capable of scoring two goals even though he is always on the bench.

On the other hand, with the elimination of Germany in the Qatar world cup. Bayern players can focus more on the league competition again.

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December 02, 2022, 04:49:23 PM
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Their club will have to seriously filter good strikers in January transfer market and buy one to fill in a position left by Lewandowski, then Mane.

Bayern Munich don't need to sign any player to fill Mane's place in the team. Yes, there is still a long time ahead until Mane's recovery from his injury. He is expected to return by mid February for now. They of course have many Bundesliga matches in the meantime - 5 matches. But I believe that Bayern Munich can still do just fine in the league in his absence. Because the usual team spirit is back and they have started to play much more effective as a team. Nagelsmann would find a solution to Mane's absence as a result.

It is just going to be very important for Mane to be able to play against PSG in the first leg. This will be a way more different match compared to the Bundesliga ones obviously. They need one of their critical players like Mane in the match to raise their chance to win.

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December 02, 2022, 04:50:30 PM
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For Bayern Munich i have no doubts that they will be not struggling after the break and the World Cup for sure.
PSG and Munich has so much national players from everywhere and both have enough players that can play after the break.
Schalke is not complicated , they are lost this season. And if you mention Hamburg you can also take Nürnberg into that list.

Even if Bayern lose points in the game with Leipzig, this will not affect their position in the standings in any way - they have a good advantage over second place. And if you think about games against PSG, then there will be enough time to prepare for them, plus PSG is in the same situation as Bayern (many players will play in the World Cup) so no one will have an advantage here.
Bayern winning the trophy is only a matter of time even if they lose some points the other contenders will lose more i think many of bayern players playing in the world cup can give a small advantage in the bundesliga to the other teams but it won't be enough.

In a few words, here the team that will have the most comfort for everything is Bayern and PSG (in the UCL). However, we do not know how much wear all the players make in the World Cup, they can be at 100% of all their potential but They can also arrive very tired and this is something that is a fact, for me things have to be done in a very appropriate way and carried out with the calm that they decide, you cannot demand that they give so much in the games and commitments that they have pending, I know that the leagues are something that is their job, but it can give them a break, I don't know if after the break the players can give their best if they don't need maybe 1 week to fully recover.


If Union Berlin are among the top 9 teams at the end of the season, then they can really be proud of themselves. With the international competition they have another big task. If certain players drop out, then they have difficulties filling that spot. Their squad is not yet so big that they are a candidate for the top 5. But if they keep going the way something big will come out of it.

They have lost a lot of points in the last weeks, which is not very good for them. But I think they can go back to their old performance when the matches start again. Even though they don't have a very good squad, they are playing very well and are in a pretty good place in the league.
When all the players in the team are able to take the field, I think they can be one of the best teams in the league again.
If they continue like this, they can finish the league in the top 5 teams Smiley
Their focus completely lost in the last few weeks before the international break which saw them return to their usual team.
But indeed I still hope they can continue to be a dark horse even though they cannot maintain their position in the top 3 but they can still be troublesome in the top 5 just like the previous season even though this is definitely very difficult with their current condition.

Regarding this, is there any information that is known as to why the performance has dropped so much here? I don't understand how Union Berling has lost so much in a short time, at one point I saw it as one of the strongest teams in the Bundesliga, and I had serious doubts if it could compete against Bayern or not, but obviously I don't know what happens internally, I know that the moods of the players lately have been affecting their performance in many players and this may be one of the factors why they can have these results, another reason is that they have problems at the management level, which are already many problems. more internal.

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to say the least it will affect the mentality of their players but they have plenty of time before facing psg in the round of 16.

Sure. That also comes into it. They will be sad and need a few days. But they are professionals and should then concentrate on their club again. Besides, the European Championships are in 2 years and they will have enough time to advertise themselves again. But now they have a month off until they go back to Qatar.
Germany elimination from this year world cup quickly surprised us all, even though previously Germany was considered one of the favorite teams to win this year world cup but in fact they were eliminated in the group phase, so far Germany has been dominated by Bayern players but somehow as if there is not visible cohesiveness in the German national team like when the player played for Munich, I think the current German era is over and Germany must evaluating their players and it is better to focus on young talents in the European Championship later.
On the other hand, I still haven't seen midfielders who can spoil the attack line for them, even though when they are at the same club, it's clear that it will make it easier to communicate, but Germany doesn't seem to have that. plus their match seemed to underestimate their opponent at the start of the group phase which actually should have been maximized properly because there was Spain who was quite strong there but they wasted it.

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