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December 08, 2022, 12:12:23 PM
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Bayern is a very wealthy club with a very sound financial policy. Basically, they can keep any players they want. They also don't let players go easily. Lewandowsky did leave last season, but that must also have had to do with his age. They handled that reasonably well with Mane.

bayern didn't want to let Lewandowsky leave, Lewandowsky wanted to leave because from what I could understand the team wanted to hire haland to replace Lewandowsky and he didn't like that attitude from bayern and started campaigning to leave bayern as soon as possible, it wasn't a good attitude how bayern treated Lewandowsky. as for money, bayern has money and has been able to manage the players well, they have something very good, which is not constantly selling players and being harmed by such a sale

Lewandowski had a contract with Bayern for a year and Bayern wanted to extend the contract for another year (quite logical given his age), but this was not enough for Lewandowski and he began to rant. As a result, Bayern sold him and I don’t think that they were in the red, but Lewandowski lost the Champions League playoffs for the first time in many years. I think he acted like an idiot.

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December 08, 2022, 01:11:38 PM
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Bayern is a very wealthy club with a very sound financial policy. Basically, they can keep any players they want. They also don't let players go easily. Lewandowsky did leave last season, but that must also have had to do with his age. They handled that reasonably well with Mane.

bayern didn't want to let Lewandowsky leave, Lewandowsky wanted to leave because from what I could understand the team wanted to hire haland to replace Lewandowsky and he didn't like that attitude from bayern and started campaigning to leave bayern as soon as possible, it wasn't a good attitude how bayern treated Lewandowsky. as for money, bayern has money and has been able to manage the players well, they have something very good, which is not constantly selling players and being harmed by such a sale

Lewandowski had a contract with Bayern for a year and Bayern wanted to extend the contract for another year (quite logical given his age), but this was not enough for Lewandowski and he began to rant. As a result, Bayern sold him and I don’t think that they were in the red, but Lewandowski lost the Champions League playoffs for the first time in many years. I think he acted like an idiot.
I don't think it's right to call a player an idiot even for reasons that I think are normal for players. Lewandowski left because he wanted to be part of Barcelona, moreover Barcelona were also interested in signing him. Bayern Munich on the other hand want to keep him, but with Lewandowski wanting to leave, they are trying to make a profit instead of having to keep a player who no longer feels comfortable in the team.

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December 08, 2022, 02:58:06 PM
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Lewandowski was at Bayern Munich for 8 seasons, so it will be difficult for Sadio Mane to reach the game that Lewandowski gave Bayern Munich.
Let's take a look at Lewandowski's first season with Bayern Munich on a free transfer from Borussia Dortmund. He played 31 times and scored 17 goals, now Sadio Mane has only played 14 matches and scored 6 goals, he still has a chance to match Lewandowski's goal or even exceed it in his first season.
This is a comparable game in my opinion than comparing Lewandowski's contribution in his last season to Sadio Mane's in his first.
It seems too fast and the fans' expectations are high for the performance of Sadio Mane because still in the first season and have 15 matches only. I think Sadio Mane's performance isn't too bad, it's just that the fans' expectations are too big and it doesn't give Mane time and space to prove his capacity as the best player at the moment. From 14 appearances with Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, Sadio Mane has managed to score 6 goals and 3 goals in the Champions League from 6 appearances.
I don't think bad performance with 9 goals scored at Bundesliga and Champion because comparison with Lewandowski still need adapted for the first season in Bayern Munich.
They Will have to suffer quite a lot because of selling Robert Lewandowski. They basically do not have any player in the team right now who can score goals at any given time in the match.
Yes, Bayern Munich said that they will bring good strikers into the team. And who did they bring in? Sadio Mané, who is the winger? This is going to cost them in the Champions League. And they still do not have any striker currently in the team who is actually reliable. I think they will have to be happy with just the Bundesliga title this season.

The first thing that comes to my mind is that Robert Lewandowski was a central striker, and Sadio Mané is a winger, and you can never replace a striker with a winger.

There is no doubt that Sadio Mané has scored quite a few goals, to be precise, he has scored 9 goals. However, matching the tally of Lewandowski is going to be really hard because a few seasons back that guy scored a whopping 41 goals in one season, which was the highest ever goal scored in the Bundesliga.

I really think that they should bring in a new striker in the next transfer window, otherwise, they will suffer quite a lot in the champions league if they don't do that.

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December 08, 2022, 03:08:02 PM
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On the paper Dortmund upcoming opponents is weaker than them and it shouldn't be any problem to collect points from those teams but Dortmund still cannot performing consistent this season even few months ago they were lose from Hertha Berlin which is categorized as weak team in Bundesliga so this indicate Dortmund can be slipped even from against weak team
And Dortmund current manager should be evaluated these records and indeed difference points between Dortmund with the team in the top 3 is not too far and very possible to chased but they should be improved more their performance however from all of Dortmund opponents i will be wary of Leverkusen because they were performing well lately with gets 3 winning streak and this indicated Leverkusen has able to bounce back
Dortmund should be able to collect points from any club aside from maybe Leipzig and obviously Bayern, because those two teams are at high level, Bayern is elite, Leipzig is rich and aside from that every other team should be easy to beat for Dortmund. It is not about if they could, but a bit more about will they?

Because, they haven't played at the high level that they could and that is why I am not really shocked about the current situation, these things do happen and we should be fine about it. It is something they are capable of doing and if they are capable of doing then they should be doing it, otherwise they are just underachievers, that’s it.

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December 08, 2022, 03:23:51 PM
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It takes a long time and it takes a lot of money if you really want something like this to happen, we know that Dortmund always have some talented players but it's not enough because there has to be someone who is really experienced there and when it's wanted the higher ups always let the player go with big sales money so I personally don't really feel that something like adopting a style will be done because they must be aware that the risk of loss is quite a lot if they intend to compete even though at this time they are often said to be rivals.
Dortmund often prints a lot of good players and has a lot of money, but if they want to buy new players again, it seems they will do it when the transfer market opens, so far they have not provided any information about their new players and there have been no rumors circulating. Dortmund have lost again in their last 2 matches and this is very sad because they should have stayed in the top three of the standings.
Their focus is still on looking for young stars in any case but for now it seems that looking for a Striker who has more instinct and experience is also not wrong for them.
Haller still needs time to recover and they are struggling in attack so there's no reason they shouldn't be looking for a striker in my opinion.
Their midfield also needs some slight adjustments so they don't always have to be bothered with lots of mistakes in passing.

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December 08, 2022, 04:09:19 PM
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On the paper Dortmund upcoming opponents is weaker than them and it shouldn't be any problem to collect points from those teams but Dortmund still cannot performing consistent this season even few months ago they were lose from Hertha Berlin which is categorized as weak team in Bundesliga so this indicate Dortmund can be slipped even from against weak team
And Dortmund current manager should be evaluated these records and indeed difference points between Dortmund with the team in the top 3 is not too far and very possible to chased but they should be improved more their performance however from all of Dortmund opponents i will be wary of Leverkusen because they were performing well lately with gets 3 winning streak and this indicated Leverkusen has able to bounce back
Dortmund should be able to collect points from any club aside from maybe Leipzig and obviously Bayern, because those two teams are at high level, Bayern is elite, Leipzig is rich and aside from that every other team should be easy to beat for Dortmund. It is not about if they could, but a bit more about will they?

Because, they haven't played at the high level that they could and that is why I am not really shocked about the current situation, these things do happen and we should be fine about it. It is something they are capable of doing and if they are capable of doing then they should be doing it, otherwise they are just underachievers, that’s it.
I'm not sure Borussia Dortmund will achieve in the near future, because they did the opposite of what they should have done to achieve this achievement. Moreover, this season they have seen a lot of decline. Indeed, this is only half of the season and there are still many opportunities for them to do even better, especially in the second round.
Indeed, they are not too far from second place, especially with only 5 points difference. But the loss of their 2 consecutive matches has made it difficult for them to return to that position. Especially now that RB Leipzig and Freiburg are also in good shape to defend their positions from the pursuit of Borussia Dortmund.

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December 08, 2022, 04:20:59 PM
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Bayern Munich will go after Harry Kane with all their might because they really need Harry Kane to strengthen the team they have, at least with Harry Kane's old age maybe he can follow the flow of the game and the instructions given can be done well so you can say Bayern Munich prefer players with pretty good emotional control and above average skills.
Is Mane not enough for Munich? I'm just worried that Kane will just be a backup. Indeed he wants to win in the league, because Tottenham have not given him that. But maybe if he intends to leave Tottenham will not let him go cheap and easy. I think Kane could choose Madrid, because maybe Anceloti will start looking for a replacement for Benzema.
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Lewandowski had a contract with Bayern for a year and Bayern wanted to extend the contract for another year (quite logical given his age), but this was not enough for Lewandowski and he began to rant. As a result, Bayern sold him and I don’t think that they were in the red, but Lewandowski lost the Champions League playoffs for the first time in many years. I think he acted like an idiot.
He knows what he was doing by leaving from bayern to the la liga. I thought that if he has a very big faith in barcelona but the fact that if barcelona might be leaving from champion league even earlier compared with intermilan which is still competing in the champion league. As you said that if he has made a very worst decision by leaving from bayern and gone to the barcelona as his new club but i were sure that if he has already considered as of pros and cons when he was moving to the barcelona and so his decision can't be blamed and it's not 100% wrong for him to leave from bayern as he was looking for a new challenge.

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December 08, 2022, 04:35:09 PM
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Bayern Munich will go after Harry Kane with all their might because they really need Harry Kane to strengthen the team they have, at least with Harry Kane's old age maybe he can follow the flow of the game and the instructions given can be done well so you can say Bayern Munich prefer players with pretty good emotional control and above average skills.
Is Mane not enough for Munich? I'm just worried that Kane will just be a backup. Indeed he wants to win in the league, because Tottenham have not given him that. But maybe if he intends to leave Tottenham will not let him go cheap and easy. I think Kane could choose Madrid, because maybe Anceloti will start looking for a replacement for Benzema.

Mane may not be enough for Bayern Munich considering his performance since leaving Liverpool to the German Champions Bayern Munich and considering his injury state I think just like Real Madrid who's going to get a supporting striker or a replacement for Benzema Bayern Munich needs to bring Harry Kane to the team to play along with Mane I believe they both can pair together with Kane up front and Mane play as a supporting striker. Kane May likely move to Bayern Munich as a free agent when his contract expires with Tottenham because the striker may not be allowed to leave to another club since his presence is still needed in the club regardless of their trophyless state since joining the club.

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December 08, 2022, 04:39:51 PM
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Bayern is a very wealthy club with a very sound financial policy. Basically, they can keep any players they want. They also don't let players go easily. Lewandowsky did leave last season, but that must also have had to do with his age. They handled that reasonably well with Mane.

bayern didn't want to let Lewandowsky leave, Lewandowsky wanted to leave because from what I could understand the team wanted to hire haland to replace Lewandowsky and he didn't like that attitude from bayern and started campaigning to leave bayern as soon as possible, it wasn't a good attitude how bayern treated Lewandowsky. as for money, bayern has money and has been able to manage the players well, they have something very good, which is not constantly selling players and being harmed by such a sale

It doesn't matter who they play with, the B team is also so good that they easily become champions.

despite bayern being a strong team, they cannot underestimate the opponents, in the bundesliga if bayern played with team B they would not have any chance of being champions of the bundesliga, they would be relegated in my opinion, i say that because all teams in the Bundesliga are strong, it's not a place where you should play with a B team and expect a good result.
Bayern Munich is a really strong team. When Sadio Mane joined their team they got more energy back into the team. They never underestimate the opponent team. All the players of the team play every match with responsibility, as a result of which their team is still in a very good stage.
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December 08, 2022, 04:41:25 PM
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Bayern Munich will go after Harry Kane with all their might because they really need Harry Kane to strengthen the team they have, at least with Harry Kane's old age maybe he can follow the flow of the game and the instructions given can be done well so you can say Bayern Munich prefer players with pretty good emotional control and above average skills.
Is Mane not enough for Munich? I'm just worried that Kane will just be a backup. Indeed he wants to win in the league, because Tottenham have not given him that. But maybe if he intends to leave Tottenham will not let him go cheap and easy. I think Kane could choose Madrid, because maybe Anceloti will start looking for a replacement for Benzema.
Even if Kane goes to Bayern Munich, the club will still  have another problem on how to play him with other forwarders. That was the problem Bayern Munich faced on how to play without Lewandowski and they have solved the problem and they can score so many goals in one match. If they bring Kane, there is no doubt that he will later adapt but there will be problem in the team.
So it will be fine that if Bayern wants to sign a striker, they should do so when the seasonhas ended so that there will be time for preseason.

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The first thing that comes to my mind is that Robert Lewandowski was a central striker, and Sadio Mané is a winger, and you can never replace a striker with a winger.

There is no doubt that Sadio Mané has scored quite a few goals, to be precise, he has scored 9 goals. However, matching the tally of Lewandowski is going to be really hard because a few seasons back that guy scored a whopping 41 goals in one season, which was the highest ever goal scored in the Bundesliga.

I really think that they should bring in a new striker in the next transfer window, otherwise, they will suffer quite a lot in the champions league if they don't do that.

In the case of Sadio Mane, Nagelsmann hopes Mane can fill the position left by Lowandowski. that doesn't mean that wingers can't be center forwards. it's just that, in the case of Sadio Mane, he doesn't fit the position. moreover, in the style of Ngalesmann's strategy of frequently tweaking the positions of his players. until in the end, Mane took his original position as a winger. and it seems, he is more comfortable.

Bayern still have a centre-forward option, although Choupo-Moting is not as sharp as Lewandowski. however, Bayern Munich is currently a very productive team. in 15 matches in the bundesliga, they have scored 49 goals. something extraordinary, even without Lewandowski. I believe Bayern Munich's management have planned to bring in newcomers this January or the next summer transfer window. at least, there are already several players who have always been linked with Bayern.

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December 08, 2022, 04:53:15 PM
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Is Mane not enough for Munich? I'm just worried that Kane will just be a backup. Indeed he wants to win in the league, because Tottenham have not given him that. But maybe if he intends to leave Tottenham will not let him go cheap and easy. I think Kane could choose Madrid, because maybe Anceloti will start looking for a replacement for Benzema.

Well Mane is a offensive winger and not a central striker and now that Robert Lewandowski is gone Bayern does not really have a world class central striker anymore. I know that Choupo-Moting is a great player and he is also showing great performances so far in this season but it is also a fact that he is already 33 years old already and only 1 central striker for a club like Bayern Munich is just not enough in my opinion. Harry Kane is also 29 years old already and i would guess that he would cost around 100 M€, because he still has one year of contract left after this season. So this would be a really expensive transfer for Bayern. We will see if they will pay that much money.
Real is going for Mbappe so i doubt they will go for Kane too, Real already has a lot of debts after all.
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Well Mane is a offensive winger and not a central striker and now that Robert Lewandowski is gone Bayern does not really have a world class central striker anymore. I know that Choupo-Moting is a great player and he is also showing great performances so far in this season but it is also a fact that he is already 33 years old already and only 1 central striker for a club like Bayern Munich is just not enough in my opinion. Harry Kane is also 29 years old already and i would guess that he would cost around 100 M€, because he still has one year of contract left after this season. So this would be a really expensive transfer for Bayern. We will see if they will pay that much money.
Real is going for Mbappe so i doubt they will go for Kane too, Real already has a lot of debts after all.
I also think that Real Madrid have there eyes and want Mbappe before they will try to get Harry Kane.
I really dont know if its a good thing that Bayern Munich want to get Harry Kane but just imagine Kane and Mane together can be a powerful offensive.
Honestly i guess that we will not see Kane in Munich , is so , maybe in 2 seasons .
For now he is to expensive.

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December 08, 2022, 05:50:05 PM
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For now it seems like Mane is enough for Bayern Munich. Because while Mane is performing impressively Choupo-Moting is also able to show the expected performance. Choupo-Moting is doing even better than the expected because he is very productive as for scoring these days. Maybe the reason why Bayern Munich don't want to sign another striker yet is this now.

As a result I think they won't sign a top striker in January and they will just wait for next summer. They have already started to score so many goals in a game just like in the old times.

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December 08, 2022, 07:18:35 PM
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Dortmund often prints a lot of good players and has a lot of money, but if they want to buy new players again, it seems they will do it when the transfer market opens, so far they have not provided any information about their new players and there have been no rumors circulating. Dortmund have lost again in their last 2 matches and this is very sad because they should have stayed in the top three of the standings.
Dortmund work to achieve it, they did not print or mint new players from the air and sell them at expensive prices.

In fact, Dortmund have good strategies to hunt for youth players and plans to use them, grow them up with very open chances in their team. The scout team of Dortmund is very productive and they discovered so many good youth players, then convinced the Sport director to buy these players at very cheap costs.

Moukoko is a very promising next rising star for Dortmund, after Jude Bellingham. However, if they want to win Bundesliga, they will have to keep their star players and buy some important star players to enhance their weaknesses. It is a risky strategy which can break Dortmund principle for their salary ceiling.

At this point, I don't even think that the Dortmund owners want to win the league. Because if they do so, they would not have to sell their premier player every season. From what I can remember they have sold Robert Lewandowski, Mats Hummels, Erling Haaland, and more.

If they had all those players their league outcome would be very different. And I'm pretty sure they will even sell Jude Bellingham if they get a lucrative offer. I am hearing rumors that Real Madrid are interested in signing him. If they offer a big amount for him, Dortmund will surely be willing to sell him to them. Although they are in quite a comfortable position in the league right now I hope that they will be able to give Bayern a good fight for the league title.

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December 08, 2022, 07:29:02 PM
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Bayern seems to be holding on to this young player because they are aware that the role of Musiala, who is currently Muller's successor, is obviously still quite important, but on the other hand, we also know that they are businessmen and it's not wrong to let go of young players to get a lot of money, especially when they do that was when Lewandowski left. I think there are still many possibilities that will happen to this player, although my hope is still there.

It seems that they will not hand down Jamal Musiala to another team yet, after all, Musiala is still young and he got a lot of years in him to fill the ceiling of improvements, and to take credit on their investment in him, I think they can not let a great potential just go by and Muller has now have an attacking partner that he can rely on whenever they attack the goal, for me Muller realize it that Musiala will be a perfect exchange for him, after all, Thomas Muller is not getting younger from his age of 33 and nearing to 40's will surely need an eye for who's next to fill his shoes,
It is possible that this could happen, depending on the offer made to Bayern when something fits the why not clause.
Apart from the club, they are clearly business people and the sale of their players is not cheap, just like when Lewandowski was sold and the money was bought for Mane, where Bayern still made a profit, it was not impossible for Musiala either.
Even though the price set by Bayern this time will certainly be a little troublesome for Musiala's interested clubs.

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December 08, 2022, 07:44:18 PM
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Bayern Munich wouldn't give up on Musiala already now. They are not the Dortmund type of a team. I mean that Dortmund would have been okay to selling him for a big amount of money to increase their profits in the season. Because their main goal is just to make the profit in their target by buying and selling skilled young players. They aren't fighting seriously for the Bundesliga title like Bayern Munich. However Musiala is a Bayern Munich player and we all must be knowing how much they care about keeping these skilled youngsters in the team.

I assume Kimmich would be a great example about this. They signed him while he was 20. Now he has a very important role in the starting eleven.

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December 08, 2022, 08:23:48 PM
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Bayern Munich wouldn't give up on Musiala already now. They are not the Dortmund type of a team. I mean that Dortmund would have been okay to selling him for a big amount of money to increase their profits in the season. Because their main goal is just to make the profit in their target by buying and selling skilled young players. They aren't fighting seriously for the Bundesliga title like Bayern Munich. However Musiala is a Bayern Munich player and we all must be knowing how much they care about keeping these skilled youngsters in the team.

I assume Kimmich would be a great example about this. They signed him while he was 20. Now he has a very important role in the starting eleven.

Musiala wont leave Bayern Munich anytime soon,i think that he will stay in the club for a very long time and he is their project. Bayern Munich always makes a team for a couple of years in advance. Musiala can only leave the club if he isnt attracted to play in the bundesliga.

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December 08, 2022, 11:55:59 PM
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Musiala wont leave Bayern Munich anytime soon,i think that he will stay in the club for a very long time and he is their project. Bayern Munich always makes a team for a couple of years in advance. Musiala can only leave the club if he isnt attracted to play in the bundesliga.
Jamal Musiala career at Bayern Munich is still quite good and has good achievements, whereas if someone offers him a high price I'm sure Bayern Munich will let him go to increase their finances, this is the same as when Bayern Munich released Robert Lewandowski to Barcelona.

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