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September 09, 2023, 03:02:21 AM
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I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.
  
Good players results in brilliant performance for the entire team. Edin Terzic knows what's valuable gone this summer all because the club more interested in generate significant good figures in the transfer window. However there's always a ground to settle for what's left with them by recruiting new backup players that would definitely be ready for the market in the forthcoming years. Jude Bellingham was a prominent player for Borrusia Dortmund, gaining enough experience and playing like a pro on the pitch for Die Borussen Die Schwarzgelben.

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September 09, 2023, 04:20:38 AM
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I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.
  
Good players results in brilliant performance for the entire team. Edin Terzic knows what's valuable gone this summer all because the club more interested in generate significant good figures in the transfer window. However there's always a ground to settle for what's left with them by recruiting new backup players that would definitely be ready for the market in the forthcoming years. Jude Bellingham was a prominent player for Borrusia Dortmund, gaining enough experience and playing like a pro on the pitch for Die Borussen Die Schwarzgelben.
Not only Belllingham but Dortmund has given birth to quite a number of talented players and they always sell it when there are teams who dare to offer high prices. Although able to replace with other players, but I think the concept that De Borrusen built was quite brilliant because in addition to pursuing achievements but they also always won business, they were also always able to be the main competitors in the Bundesliga.



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September 09, 2023, 04:56:00 AM
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I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.
  
Good players results in brilliant performance for the entire team. Edin Terzic knows what's valuable gone this summer all because the club more interested in generate significant good figures in the transfer window. However there's always a ground to settle for what's left with them by recruiting new backup players that would definitely be ready for the market in the forthcoming years. Jude Bellingham was a prominent player for Borrusia Dortmund, gaining enough experience and playing like a pro on the pitch for Die Borussen Die Schwarzgelben.
This young player has provided valuable things such as several goals and assists for Dortmund and he also made a lot of money when Real Madrid decided to buy him but on the other hand there is a profit from the sale of Jude Bellingham now Dortmund is having difficulty finding a replacement for a player like Jude. Bellingham because previously he has been one of the talented young players for Dortmund.

What amazing is that Jude Bellingham has only been with Real Madrid for a few months has been able to provide 5 goals and 1 assist at the start of the season in La Liga.
Maybe Dortmund and Edin Terzic also feel some disappointment over the decision to sell Jude Bellingham.

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September 09, 2023, 05:05:57 AM
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Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.
I don't think that Dortmund will be bad this season even though at the start of this season Dortmund was not yet at the top of the standings after playing three matches in the Bundesliga. But Dortmund still has a lot of matches to prove that they are still strong enough in the Bundesliga, even though Dortmund might not be that good in the UCL, but if it's just in the Bundesliga, I think Dortmund still has to be taken into account by its opponents.
Borussia Dortmund has always sold important players, so it didn't really matter with Bellingham's transfer to Real Madrid and Dortmund will still be the top team in the Bundeliga, but it must be admitted that this season they won't be as strong as last season and also of course the competition at the top the Bundesliga standings with Bayern will not be as competitive as last season, Dortmund will still be Bayern's shadow.
But you also have to watch out for there are several Bundesliga teams that have started to develop much better this season and that is a bit of a threat to Dortmund at the top of the standings to fight for a ticket to the UCL.
I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.

Dortmund's management is very experienced. And they often sell the best player in their squad. However, their performance remains fairly stable. But it is not the case that their performance will be stable every season. Bellingham was a very important player for Dortmund. And it was Bellingham's performances that kept Dortmund's midfield and attack stable last season. Dortmund's performance has deteriorated since Bellingham's departure this season. Another reason for Dortmund's poor performance is Dortmund's weak attack during the season. Sebastien Haller is not playing well. Dortmund have high expectations from Haller. But he could not score a single goal or assist in three matches. This is one of the reasons for the deterioration of Dortmund's performance.

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September 09, 2023, 05:36:51 AM
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Dortmund's management is very experienced. And they often sell the best player in their squad. However, their performance remains fairly stable. But it is not the case that their performance will be stable every season. Bellingham was a very important player for Dortmund. And it was Bellingham's performances that kept Dortmund's midfield and attack stable last season. Dortmund's performance has deteriorated since Bellingham's departure this season. Another reason for Dortmund's poor performance is Dortmund's weak attack during the season. Sebastien Haller is not playing well. Dortmund have high expectations from Haller. But he could not score a single goal or assist in three matches. This is one of the reasons for the deterioration of Dortmund's performance.
well, in the end this season Dortmund has appeared unstable and its performance has greatly decreased since selling reliable players like Bellingham Dortmund must try to build new talents again to be able to immediately improve stable performance this season because even if they do not have reliable players at least Dortmund should not have a decline performance that has been very clear in the last few periods of matches and currently Dortmund has to compete in the UCL preliminary round which is a pressure for Dortmund to improve performance otherwise this team will lose another chance.

and to be honest even so I'm still not sure whether Dortmund will be able to compete with other teams in group F while Dortmund will have to compete with PSG, Milan and Newcastle who are currently in a very strong state.

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September 09, 2023, 06:10:04 AM
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Not only Belllingham but Dortmund has given birth to quite a number of talented players and they always sell it when there are teams who dare to offer high prices. Although able to replace with other players, but I think the concept that De Borrusen built was quite brilliant because in addition to pursuing achievements but they also always won business, they were also always able to be the main competitors in the Bundesliga.
Actually Borussia Dortmund can't find replacing for position leaving by star player after selling with fantastic values, before Jude Bellingam sold to Real Madrid have Jadon Sancho sell to Manchester United. After leaving by Sancho, Dortmund can't find right or the save level with Jadon Sancho and they try for promoting many young player but they need time for adapting before have much expensive values in the future. Last sold is Jude Bellingham with fantastic transfer fees above 100 million euro, Dortmund have face with reality difficult in the winning trend last three matches in Bundesliga, have 2 loss of 3 games its bad performance from Dortmund are teams finished on 2nd standings position last season.

I don't know what happen with Dortmund management with believing fully young player without have experience playing regular in domestic league.

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September 09, 2023, 06:25:32 AM
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Dortmund's management is very experienced. And they often sell the best player in their squad. However, their performance remains fairly stable. But it is not the case that their performance will be stable every season. Bellingham was a very important player for Dortmund. And it was Bellingham's performances that kept Dortmund's midfield and attack stable last season. Dortmund's performance has deteriorated since Bellingham's departure this season. Another reason for Dortmund's poor performance is Dortmund's weak attack during the season. Sebastien Haller is not playing well. Dortmund have high expectations from Haller. But he could not score a single goal or assist in three matches. This is one of the reasons for the deterioration of Dortmund's performance.
well, in the end this season Dortmund has appeared unstable and its performance has greatly decreased since selling reliable players like Bellingham Dortmund must try to build new talents again to be able to immediately improve stable performance this season because even if they do not have reliable players at least Dortmund should not have a decline performance that has been very clear in the last few periods of matches and currently Dortmund has to compete in the UCL preliminary round which is a pressure for Dortmund to improve performance otherwise this team will lose another chance.

and to be honest even so I'm still not sure whether Dortmund will be able to compete with other teams in group F while Dortmund will have to compete with PSG, Milan and Newcastle who are currently in a very strong state.
Dortmund has been like that for a long time, they will never care about a decline in performance, and because no other Bundeliga team has risen so they remain safe at the top of the standings (below Bayern) because there is no significant competition from other teams, so I think this season it will remain like that.

And regarding the competition in the UCL, Dortmund will join the most difficult group with Newcastle, PSG and AC Milan. I think with Dortmund's current performance it seems like there is no chance for them to qualify from this group.

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September 09, 2023, 08:32:45 AM
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Union Berlin got a really big hit by Leipzig home the last time. If they didn't get that red card maybe things could have been better. Because Leipzig were comfortable to increase the goal gap with them after that red card. However I can still consider Union Berlin's start quite decent as they have collected 6 points.

They can be one of the teams being competitive for top 4 again if they keep consistent mostly. They are going to play in the Champions League at the same time so they will need to deal with their tight schedule well too. If they have a good balance I think we will watch decent performances from them in the Bundesliga.

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September 09, 2023, 08:35:15 AM
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Not only Belllingham but Dortmund has given birth to quite a number of talented players and they always sell it when there are teams who dare to offer high prices. Although able to replace with other players, but I think the concept that De Borrusen built was quite brilliant because in addition to pursuing achievements but they also always won business, they were also always able to be the main competitors in the Bundesliga.
I completely agree when you say they are brilliant in terms of business, but I disagree if it goes to the realm of achievement that you say. yes indeed they have always been the main competitor for Bayern Munich, but being a competitor is not enough because there must be gold ink they must record, whereas in more than a decade in the Bundesliga itself they were unable to stop the dominance held by Bayern Munich. With their ability like that (creating many talented young players) they should be able to utilize it more in terms of achievement and that they have not done until now.

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I heard this kind of speculation last season too, when they sold Haaland. Many said that they would not be as strong as the previous season because they sold one of their most important players. And they showed that it was wrong and they remained one of the clubs that had the second biggest chance after Bayern Munich, and even last season they almost won the title if only in the last match they could get full points at that time.
Undoubtedly its important players for Borussia Dortmund Bellingham and Haaland departures have had an effect on the team performance. Dortmund recruiting of young talent is their strength, but they might run into difficulties this year. I think They still have time to demonstrate their dominance in the Bundesliga despite a poor start. Their rivalry with Bayern Munich though might not be as intense. Dortmund chances of qualifying for the UCL are in jeopardy due to the improvement of other Bundesliga teams.

Dortmund is the best producer of players because this club has produced players like Erling Haaland, Jude Bellingham and sold them to other clubs in Europe for a huge price. Last season, Dortmund sold their star player Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid. The sale of Jude Bellingham took a toll on their team and they are trying to get rid of it. Bundesliga Dortmund is one of the best teams but the team has weakened a bit after the departure of key players this season. 
Considering Dortmund's current performance, they cannot compete with Bayern Munich. They definitely need more quality players in their squad to compete with Bayern Munich.

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September 09, 2023, 09:12:47 AM
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I don't think that Dortmund will be bad this season even though at the start of this season Dortmund was not yet at the top of the standings after playing three matches in the Bundesliga. But Dortmund still has a lot of matches to prove that they are still strong enough in the Bundesliga, even though Dortmund might not be that good in the UCL, but if it's just in the Bundesliga, I think Dortmund still has to be taken into account by its opponents.
Borussia Dortmund has always sold important players, so it didn't really matter with Bellingham's transfer to Real Madrid and Dortmund will still be the top team in the Bundeliga, but it must be admitted that this season they won't be as strong as last season and also of course the competition at the top the Bundesliga standings with Bayern will not be as competitive as last season, Dortmund will still be Bayern's shadow.
But you also have to watch out for there are several Bundesliga teams that have started to develop much better this season and that is a bit of a threat to Dortmund at the top of the standings to fight for a ticket to the UCL.
Even if what you say is true, but on the other hand, something like this affects the club because losing a star player is the same as making their performance decline.
In the end they remained in the top 4 but in terms of performance they were not better and striking as before. This remains a loss because with a slick performance in the previous season there is certainly hope that this season they put more pressure on Bayern in the Bundesliga competition.

But it can't be blamed either because this scheme is always done by Dortmund and this is their strategy to bring in profits by selling some of their players for the benefit of the club.

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September 09, 2023, 09:16:36 AM
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And regarding the competition in the UCL, Dortmund will join the most difficult group with Newcastle, PSG and AC Milan. I think with Dortmund's current performance it seems like there is no chance for them to qualify from this group.
If you look at their main squad, let alone PSG and AC Milan, even Newcastle is still much better than Dortmund, we can see how they play in the Bundesliga. There are no points they got in the last two matches, only a draw and that doesn't convince everyone that they They deserve to qualify for the UCL group because they haven't seen their attacking power that is good enough.

So far what I have noticed is that on the front line they seem to have quite weak and not good attacking power so there needs to be an evaluation to change another strategy so that Dortmund can be better. Before meeting Acmilan in the UCL, they will face Hoffenheim. I would be happy if Dortmund can win this match and improve their position in the current standings.

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September 09, 2023, 09:21:10 AM
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I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.
  
Good players results in brilliant performance for the entire team. Edin Terzic knows what's valuable gone this summer all because the club more interested in generate significant good figures in the transfer window. However there's always a ground to settle for what's left with them by recruiting new backup players that would definitely be ready for the market in the forthcoming years. Jude Bellingham was a prominent player for Borrusia Dortmund, gaining enough experience and playing like a pro on the pitch for Die Borussen Die Schwarzgelben.

You cant sure if there will be another bellingham to come again. Bellingham is bellingham. None will able to be the same like him. It likes you try to find someone who will be able to play as good as haaland and it will never exist.
Dortmund has been losing a lot of important figures in the club. I saw some names that were already recruited by the team but these names were not showing significant impact to the club. Real madrid who has bought bellingham for expensive price already got instant benefit from him.
Finding someone with a great talent in the football is not an easy task. Can we also expect to see barcelona find another messi?
Barcelona has also tried that since messi left from there but barca never got one. The same thing is just happening to the dortmund. Seeling its prominent players to the rivals are also making the team faced harder situation.
I expect this season is gonna be a tough competition for dortmund in bundesliga.

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September 09, 2023, 10:01:31 AM
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Union Berlin got a really big hit by Leipzig home the last time. If they didn't get that red card maybe things could have been better. Because Leipzig were comfortable to increase the goal gap with them after that red card. However I can still consider Union Berlin's start quite decent as they have collected 6 points.

They can be one of the teams being competitive for top 4 again if they keep consistent mostly. They are going to play in the Champions League at the same time so they will need to deal with their tight schedule well too. If they have a good balance I think we will watch decent performances from them in the Bundesliga.
Big matches can change direction, but it looks like Union Berlin is not a team that will immediately go down just because of one heavy defeat, because this defeat is quite acceptable because the red card means they have to choose to catch up or survive so as not to concede more goals, it's just a decision What the coach takes often does not work as expected because the opposing team will also change their strategy to make the situation an advantage that they can exploit.
In one week running 3 matches will really drain the players' energy, especially in the Champions League They will go to Real Madrid's home ground to challenge the Spanish club, their chances are not big and I'm sure Union Berlin's target may only be a draw, but they will still play with full strength in this match, and concentrate again on the Bundesliga to maintain the opportunity to get the same good results as last season.

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September 09, 2023, 10:50:05 AM
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I heard this kind of speculation last season too, when they sold Haaland. Many said that they would not be as strong as the previous season because they sold one of their most important players. And they showed that it was wrong and they remained one of the clubs that had the second biggest chance after Bayern Munich, and even last season they almost won the title if only in the last match they could get full points at that time.
Undoubtedly its important players for Borussia Dortmund Bellingham and Haaland departures have had an effect on the team performance. Dortmund recruiting of young talent is their strength, but they might run into difficulties this year. I think They still have time to demonstrate their dominance in the Bundesliga despite a poor start. Their rivalry with Bayern Munich though might not be as intense. Dortmund chances of qualifying for the UCL are in jeopardy due to the improvement of other Bundesliga teams.

If only they had reduced the number of sales of their quality players and kept more within the club to achieve, I'm sure they would have achieved something impressive by now and maybe they could have won the Champions League for the second time. But that's them, business is business, if there is a player who has the potential to bring in a lot of money they will not hesitate to let him go, even if that player is a very scary specter and has contributed a lot to them while in the squad.
And yes that's Drotmund with all its business. Lol

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September 09, 2023, 11:35:53 AM
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If only they had reduced the number of sales of their quality players and kept more within the club to achieve, I'm sure they would have achieved something impressive by now and maybe they could have won the Champions League for the second time. But that's them, business is business, if there is a player who has the potential to bring in a lot of money they will not hesitate to let him go, even if that player is a very scary specter and has contributed a lot to them while in the squad.
And yes that's Drotmund with all its business. Lol
That's why Bayern Munchen was able to dominate the Bundesliga for a decade, there are lots of big names they have orbited over the years. In the end, Dortmund management always let him go in the transfer market, and the consequences for the club were very real, namely a decline in performance.

This season Laverkusen is a team that really deserves to challenge for the championship, and has the potential to break Munchen dominance. Xabi Alonso squad could be a serious challenge for Tuchel, the first three matches show they are very promising this season.

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September 09, 2023, 12:28:31 PM
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I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.
  
Good players results in brilliant performance for the entire team. Edin Terzic knows what's valuable gone this summer all because the club more interested in generate significant good figures in the transfer window. However there's always a ground to settle for what's left with them by recruiting new backup players that would definitely be ready for the market in the forthcoming years. Jude Bellingham was a prominent player for Borrusia Dortmund, gaining enough experience and playing like a pro on the pitch for Die Borussen Die Schwarzgelben.
Not only Belllingham but Dortmund has given birth to quite a number of talented players and they always sell it when there are teams who dare to offer high prices. Although able to replace with other players, but I think the concept that De Borrusen built was quite brilliant because in addition to pursuing achievements but they also always won business, they were also always able to be the main competitors in the Bundesliga.
You have a good point and we all know how far such an approach has taken them and they are still always the voice to reckon with in the league. Borussia Dortmund has been good at that, they make money and still perform well, and I've not seen a club in Europe that made it as obvious as them and still replicate consistent success to the top runner-up even if they did not win the trophy. They've not yet delivered spectacularly this season but will still do as the hope is high, and no club has won them as well.

But they should have performed better against Bochum and Heidenheim instead of drawing such clubs. Playing with stronger clubs might be an issue if they continue like this.

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September 09, 2023, 01:13:07 PM
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If only they had reduced the number of sales of their quality players and kept more within the club to achieve, I'm sure they would have achieved something impressive by now and maybe they could have won the Champions League for the second time. But that's them, business is business, if there is a player who has the potential to bring in a lot of money they will not hesitate to let him go, even if that player is a very scary specter and has contributed a lot to them while in the squad.
And yes that's Drotmund with all its business. Lol
That's why Bayern Munchen was able to dominate the Bundesliga for a decade, there are lots of big names they have orbited over the years. In the end, Dortmund management always let him go in the transfer market, and the consequences for the club were very real, namely a decline in performance.

This season Laverkusen is a team that really deserves to challenge for the championship, and has the potential to break Munchen dominance. Xabi Alonso squad could be a serious challenge for Tuchel, the first three matches show they are very promising this season.
I don't want to say this, but the situation they always create forces me to say that the management is solely responsible for everything. Yes, although they are still doing well in terms of performance despite their habits, it is still a situation where it becomes more difficult for them to win the title from their rivals.
Maybe 3 or 5 seasons would be reasonable for me personally, but what happened was more than a decade of the Bundesliga being dominated by Bayern Munich. I would even dare to say who will be the champions next season if they don't change their ways.

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September 09, 2023, 02:50:31 PM
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I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.
  
Good players results in brilliant performance for the entire team. Edin Terzic knows what's valuable gone this summer all because the club more interested in generate significant good figures in the transfer window. However there's always a ground to settle for what's left with them by recruiting new backup players that would definitely be ready for the market in the forthcoming years. Jude Bellingham was a prominent player for Borrusia Dortmund, gaining enough experience and playing like a pro on the pitch for Die Borussen Die Schwarzgelben.
Not only Belllingham but Dortmund has given birth to quite a number of talented players and they always sell it when there are teams who dare to offer high prices. Although able to replace with other players, but I think the concept that De Borrusen built was quite brilliant because in addition to pursuing achievements but they also always won business, they were also always able to be the main competitors in the Bundesliga.

But besides that, players who managed to have a good performance in Dortmund, not all of them can also succeed at their new club. Perhaps a small example also happened to Jadon Sancho who left Dortmund, and then joined Manchester United. But what happened was like a failure and thus, there are still players who fail in their new teams. Although, we will always bring up players who succeeded in their new teams after leaving Dortmund like Lewandowski, Bellingham and many more. But the truth is, not everything goes well but indeed, basically Dortmund always has a way of continuing to produce great players in every transfer window.

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September 09, 2023, 03:08:37 PM
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That's why Bayern Munchen was able to dominate the Bundesliga for a decade, there are lots of big names they have orbited over the years. In the end, Dortmund management always let him go in the transfer market, and the consequences for the club were very real, namely a decline in performance.

Yes and indeed it is a very true statement according to the facts that occur, right with what you say with the habits that always occur in the Dortmund management that makes them lose many opportunities to win the Bundesliga or the Champion League which will all come back again for Bayern Munich. Honestly, maybe this is no longer a strange thing, and everyone may already know the fate of some potential players in Dortmund in the end they will immediately move to interested clubs in exchange for fantastic money. Yes, this will clearly interfere with the performance of Dortmund itself, it is not difficult for them to be able to perform well but what is difficult is to get good results consistently every season is clearly very difficult with business habits like that.

This season Laverkusen is a team that really deserves to challenge for the championship, and has the potential to break Munchen dominance. Xabi Alonso squad could be a serious challenge for Tuchel, the first three matches show they are very promising this season.

Well it's true, I see now that Xabi Alonso's squad is dominating the Bundesliga by successfully maintaining a position at the top of the standings and the point is now equal to Bayern Munich where Tuchel's squad is below them. Obviously it looks like the season now is no longer Dortmund who will disturb Bayern Munich but Leverkusen, they look very strong in the first three matches of the season now by always being able to win full points at the end of the match, honestly this should be Tuchel's full attention, because Leverkusen can be a big threat if Bayern Munich continues to let them. So I hope Tuchel can further improve the performance of his club by continuing to win full points in the next match so that they can win the top position in the Bundesliga.

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