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March 25, 2023, 06:32:21 PM
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Bayern Munich also wanted Tuchel a while ago, but then management stopped it. I don't know who exactly was responsible for that, but at least they have him now. Yet Tuchel has already had quite a few top clubs in a few years. Chelsea, PSG and now Bayern. It makes a difference that it is a German, that is very handy for communication, of course. I think it's a coach with little charisma. Bayern is just going to take the title. Dortmund will certainly drop points and maybe it's also a good wake up call for Bayern, maybe the reality is now sinking in that they really don't have to work for the title. They have of course become champions so often and especially so easily in the last 10 years that I can imagine that it is all underestimated and laziness.

The first match after they signed the contract with Tuchel will be a hard game for Tuchel and Bayern Munich because they have to face Dortmund as their main competitor in Bundesliga I think Tuchel should do his best in this game because Nagelsmann could get a 2-2 result against Dormound when he was coaching and people are surely comparing these two coaches.
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March 25, 2023, 06:38:58 PM
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most people also complaining why Bayern management suddently sacked Nagelsmann without any spesific reasons

The reason for Julian Nagelsmann's dismissal is very clear, if you look at various well-known sports media, the reason Bayern Munich sacked Nagelsmann was due to a significant decrease in performance, yes, even though Nagelsmann has so far managed to keep Bayern Munich in the UCL, that's just not enough for Bayern Munchen. FYI, they have won the Bundesliga title since the last 10 seasons, if they don't manage to get the Bundesliga title this season, it will be a big surprise for people.

The performance was so poor not in the champions league but league outings
He is a good coach but the club has taken the decision they feel is best for them
Thomas Tuchel was so quick to accept the deal he must have had big dreams managing Bayern Munich

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March 25, 2023, 06:46:51 PM
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Bayern Munich also wanted Tuchel a while ago, but then management stopped it. I don't know who exactly was responsible for that, but at least they have him now. Yet Tuchel has already had quite a few top clubs in a few years. Chelsea, PSG and now Bayern. It makes a difference that it is a German, that is very handy for communication, of course. I think it's a coach with little charisma. Bayern is just going to take the title. Dortmund will certainly drop points and maybe it's also a good wake up call for Bayern, maybe the reality is now sinking in that they really don't have to work for the title. They have of course become champions so often and especially so easily in the last 10 years that I can imagine that it is all underestimated and laziness.
Thomas Tuchel is a good coach with extensive experience in most European competitions; he won the Champions League for Chelsea before being sacked by Chelsea's new management after signing some players to strengthen his team, but he was sacked along the way, and the Chelsea team has yet to fully recover under the new Manager Graham Potter.

Tuchel will undoubtedly do a good job for Bayern Munich, and he may be fortunate to win another Champions League with the club, as Bayern Munich has enough teams capable of competing for the title.

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March 25, 2023, 06:51:09 PM
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There may be some reasons why naglesmann got sacked.

- Personal problem with management
- Bayern wanna try to play safe by hiring a coach that already won UCL

As far as i can see the performance from bayern under naglesmann is not so bad at all.

Bayern is still able to sit in second place under dortmund which has only 1 point gap. It seems like there was a personal problem between naglesmann with bayern. It will be a very bad thing if the performance of bayern under tuchel will be as bad as chelsea.

Bayern has different qualities compared with chelsea and i think that will not happen for bayern to have the same fate as chelsea. The next match against dortmund gonna be first test for tuchel.

Nagelsmann lost power/contact with the team. Plus, there were clashes with Neuer, in general there were many reasons, but all of them did not concern sports performance in my opinion - Bavaria has 8 wins in 8 games in the Champions League, while the rivals were PSG, Inter, Barcelona. These are good indicators and it is very strange to fire a coach about whom it was stated that "this is a long-term project, a contract for 5 years etc." Bayern's bosses know better, but if Bayern can't beat City, everyone will blame them.

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March 25, 2023, 06:54:01 PM
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The decision is strange, do they really hope that Tuchel will be able to repeat the trick he did when he came to Chelsea? On the one hand, I know that Negelsmann had frequent conflicts with Bayern players, but on the other hand, taking such a step at the Champions League quarter-final stage is very stupid and it is not clear what this can lead to. Moreover, I agree with you, the results of Bayern in the Champions League are good.
We are waiting for the appointment of Negelsman head coach at PSG? )
Before, I have said. that this decision was a rash step if the matter was only related to the existing rumors. I suspect that there was an internal conflict between Nagelsmann and Bayern Munich officials. because according to my analysis, up and down in a team is a natural thing. Previously, Bayern experienced a front-line crisis after Lewandowski left, which in the end had an impact on the team's performance. then, Nagelsmanns found the formula and Bayern bounced back. plus, having options even though Coupo-Moting isn't as sharp as Lewanswodski. while others, other players contribute to scoring goals.

Post-world cup, Bayern Munich experienced another decline. the most influential factor is the injury of some of their important players. plus, the lack of friendly match sessions so that it affects fitness which has an impact on the team's overall performance. but so far, everything can still be said to be fine even though the Bundesliga competition is tougher. even so, with the depth of players that Bayern have. I am optimistic, they will return to be top of the standings.

On the other hand, Nagelasmann's struggles with the team in the Champions League deserve a thumbs up. because, they were able to overthrow other big teams who were predicted as strong challengers in the Champions League competition. then, as we hear today. this dismissal was too shocking for us, even before there were no signs towards it. well in conclusion, it could be as you say. Bayern will experience a decrease in performance with the current situation. even though their new coach currently has a good track record, but all of that is not a guarantee. So, let's see what's next after the international break.

Bayern Munich has not been doing well, especially this season. Of course, the decision of getting rid of Robert Lewandowski was not the right one. I shouldn't say in getting rid of it because, after all, they sold Robert Lewandowski for 50 million. So the deal was not bad for Bayern Munich. The problem is they could not get a player who could potentially replace Robert Lewandowski.

Now of course it is hard to get a replacement for a player like Robert Lewandowski. But otherwise, I don't think the decisions that he had taken previously were that bad. It's just because this decision has cost Bayern Munich a lot.

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March 25, 2023, 07:07:03 PM
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Maybe this will also be the second chance for Tuchel to surprise, having previously been able to quickly improve Chelsea's quality by winning a title. So I think, with Bayern Munich it looks like Tuchel has a big chance to repeat that success and maybe, with Tuchel it looks like Bayern Munich will have the chance to win the Bundesliga title and also the Champions League.

Let's see what Tuchel can do for Bayern Munich. So far Bayern Munich is still on the treble path because apart from the UCL and Bundesliga, they are also still playing in the DFB Pokal. Hopefully Bayern Munich's decision to fire Nagelsmann is not a bad decision that will lead Bayern Munich to not get any titles this season. BTW, has there been no news about Nagelsmann's future so far? like which clubs are starting to be interested in bringing him in as a manager.

Yes indeed, it is also possible that other teams still have to make preparations to recruit a new coach, so that Nagelsmann will not quickly accept offers from other clubs. But I'm sure Nagelsmann will get a place to coach a top team in a top league too, because basically Nagelsmann still has great ability to build a club to become a great team.

But yes, regarding tuchel to be honest I am really looking forward to the results, because Tuchel's first match as coach of Bayern Munich is to play against Dortmund next weekend or early April. But I still hope Tuchel doesn't lose his magic here, because it would be great if Tuchel can build on such huge success in such a short time.
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March 25, 2023, 07:22:37 PM
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Next round is gonna be fire since we will have the game between the leader dortmund and bayern munich it will be in bayern stadium so they are obviously the favourite but their recent league results and performance suggest that its gonna be a tough one dortmund team is on fire recently so i wouldn't be surprised if they get points in this game.
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March 25, 2023, 08:03:11 PM
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It is a really unexpected and awkward decision at the same time. I mean why would you make a decision like this while you are still having a good season?

Tuchel has officially taken the job now. It is really difficult to understand because they are in a critical time period right now. They are in a title race not only in the Bundesliga but also in the Champions League. I don't know how quickly Tuchel can adapt to the team and develop the right strategies for their goals in this season. Of course he is very familiar with the Bundesliga but still he is managing this team for the first time. He is a solid manager so maybe it wouldn't take him a long time to do so.

It will be sure difficult for Tuchel to take a breather now if the whole club is eyeing him to make a progress this season, I think that is not a great time that the team is having now, and a bad time now that they are in the middle of the season, I really think that Bayern Munich should not let their emotions on Julian Nagelsmann, he is partially have started this season and I think he is formulating great tactics for the championship but surely it was not enough, I truly wish that Bayern Munich would not resort in such things but yeah it is their decision to do it,



This change should make an impact in the Bundesliga from now on. Dortmund's job about winning the league title is much more difficult now. They should just hope that Tuchel needs to take his time for a little while to adapt. But like I said it might not take him long anyway. Just as he managed Dortmund here he must be able to do the same with Bayern Munich as well.

The difference is that he is going to manage a much more disciplined and powerful team. Besides this team have much more different goals than Dortmund. Bayern Munich don't accept anything other than titles unlike Dortmund. Their vision is championships and I think Tuchel can do this job nicely as he isn't a loser.

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March 25, 2023, 08:20:51 PM
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Schalke vs Leverkusen. These two teams are in pretty good shape if we look at the 5 matches they have played. but I am more impressed with Schalke they are struggling to get out of the relegation zone as seen by their efforts in every game.  well, in the match against Leverkusen, if Schalke can secure full points, I think they can get out of the relegation zone for next week.

Although Schalke are in the relegation zone, they are in very good form right now. The performance of the team in the last few matches has impressed everyone. And the important thing is that they have managed to share points with teams like Dortmund as well. Leverkusen is a strong team. This team's past performance against Schalke is very good. However, it is not certain that Leverkusen will win this match. Because Schalke will try their best to draw the match. And the match is more likely to be a 1-1 draw.
Still they still have to work hard now but looking at the conditions and looking at the points now they can still get out of the zone it's just that if they want to be really safe then 3 points still has to be a real thing because this 1 point is a bit annoying although that's fine.
Looking at it in terms of the competition in the current bundesliga it is not only good for the top positions but it is also quite decent to see the competition at the bottom of the standings.
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March 25, 2023, 08:29:56 PM
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There may be some reasons why naglesmann got sacked.

- Personal problem with management
- Bayern wanna try to play safe by hiring a coach that already won UCL

As far as i can see the performance from bayern under naglesmann is not so bad at all.

Bayern is still able to sit in second place under dortmund which has only 1 point gap. It seems like there was a personal problem between naglesmann with bayern. It will be a very bad thing if the performance of bayern under tuchel will be as bad as chelsea.

Bayern has different qualities compared with chelsea and i think that will not happen for bayern to have the same fate as chelsea. The next match against dortmund gonna be first test for tuchel.

Nagelsmann lost power/contact with the team. Plus, there were clashes with Neuer, in general there were many reasons, but all of them did not concern sports performance in my opinion - Bavaria has 8 wins in 8 games in the Champions League, while the rivals were PSG, Inter, Barcelona. These are good indicators and it is very strange to fire a coach about whom it was stated that "this is a long-term project, a contract for 5 years etc." Bayern's bosses know better, but if Bayern can't beat City, everyone will blame them.

Regarding Nagelsmann, I think the moment when the started the story with Neuer and then the other players, as a coach he need to have a good relationship with players, and this will have a positive effect on the team. Otherwise, the coach will lose his power, and time after time the team's performance will decrease. I think it could be a better option to give Nagelsmann time until the end of the season because Tuchel can't be guaranteed yet.
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March 25, 2023, 08:52:07 PM
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I read how Oliver Kahn commented on this dismissal, he said that they hoped for a long collaboration with Negelsman, but the results after the break at the World Championships became unsatisfactory.

Perhaps this makes sense, because Bayern have a recession in the game and they decided not to wait for the moment when things get even worse. Tuchel is a good coach, I knew that he would not be left without a team for a long time, but I think that no one could have predicted such a development of events with the dismissal of Negelsmann, and that Tuchel would be the head coach of Bayern.

Even though i did not think that Bayern would fire Nagelsmann so early, because the have paid a very big transfer fee for him, i have to say that i can totally understand that the Bayern officials were very unhappy with the performance of the team in the last few months in the Bundesliga. In the Champions League team every players is motivated anyway so the matches in the Bundesliga are really ones that show if a coach is still able to motivate his team and to be honest it seems like Nagelsmann was not able to do that anymore. If a club is able to beat Paris Saint Germain two times, then the same team should definitely be able to also win against Köln, Gladbach and Frankfurt.
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March 25, 2023, 08:55:33 PM
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Next round is gonna be fire since we will have the game between the leader dortmund and bayern munich it will be in bayern stadium so they are obviously the favourite but their recent league results and performance suggest that its gonna be a tough one dortmund team is on fire recently so i wouldn't be surprised if they get points in this game.

Dortmund always losses this derbies but now they are first and they may cause a lot of presure for Bayern Munich plus a new coach i dont know what can happen. But it will be a lot of goals for sure. I think dortmund might surprise us in this match

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March 25, 2023, 08:58:36 PM
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Bayern Munich fans have forget about controversial decision after sacking Julian Nagelsmann and replace by Thomas Tuchel because have important thing for Bayern how back to the top standing position awhile after left 1 points behind Dortmund. Up coming next games after International break out, Bayern have important match against Dortmund and become moment for getting back to the top position or keep giving chance for Dortmund lead top standing.

Left 9 matches later for Thomas Thucel answer questionable about he was right choose replacing for Julian Nagelsmann or he can't give anything for Bayern Munich are close with Champion League and Bundesliga trophy in this season.

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March 25, 2023, 09:05:40 PM
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I understand that Tuchel is better than Nagelsmann, there is absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind about that and everyone is correct about it and I support that. However, he joined just recently, what is it a few days at most before the game starts, maybe a week? That's not really ideal situation to be in and Dortmund is leading right now.

This means that Tuchel and Bayern could definitely win this game, but I wouldn't really put it against them if they lose, it would be highly normal for them to lose if that happens and I wouldn't blame them at all, they will probably win, but losing is still risky. If that happens, the point difference will be an issue.

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March 25, 2023, 09:06:03 PM
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I read how Oliver Kahn commented on this dismissal, he said that they hoped for a long collaboration with Negelsman, but the results after the break at the World Championships became unsatisfactory.

Perhaps this makes sense, because Bayern have a recession in the game and they decided not to wait for the moment when things get even worse. Tuchel is a good coach, I knew that he would not be left without a team for a long time, but I think that no one could have predicted such a development of events with the dismissal of Negelsmann, and that Tuchel would be the head coach of Bayern.
Well, I hope they don't end up regretting like how Tottenham did after the sacked Mourinho or Chelsea did after the sacked Thomas Tuchel. Personally, I hate teams that don't give coaches enough chances or time, even when they have had past achievements with them. Julian Nagelsmann did not perform so poorly by many top European club standards.


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March 25, 2023, 10:35:33 PM
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It is not the first time that Bayern Munich fires a coach even though they were performing quite well.
The pandemic Covid-19 and financial recession or something closely to recession impact a lot of entities in society including sports and football clubs. Bayern Munich actually have issues with their finance, balance sheet in the past three years and I believe that they smell pressure to go as farthest as possible in Champions League as well as unable to lose Bundesliga title.

In Champions League, from quarter finals to semi finals, final and being champion can bring significant income for the club and perhaps Bayern Munich want to go to semi final or final at least. Then they decided to sack Nagelsman and try luck with Tuchel who have had two Champions League finals with PSG and Chelsea and lifted the cup one time.

Bayern Munich will have to give the new coach a little time to get settled with the team. Otherwise, it is not going to be any improvement. Bayern Munich is a very good team.
When they fire a coach in middle of season especially in this case when the season is going to final matches in Champions League and about 10 matches in Bundesliga, the club owner actually want to gain success in rest of season. Time no longer stands with a new coach in this situation and Tuchel did experienced it in Chelsea. I think he will feel quite a bit comfortable with given tasks by Bayern Munich when he accepted to sign a contract with them.

Ok then you should probably read the interesting info about how much it costs the club to let Nagelsmann go now. Besides the 25 - 30 million Euro they paid to get him from Leipzig, they also have to pay a significant amount now that they want to get rid of him while the contract is still valid. I read somewhere that even if they win the Champions League, they would not make as much from the UEFA prize pool as they paid for the whole fip-flopping with their coaches. They are financially healthy and they seem to have the money to pull off such maneuvers.
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March 25, 2023, 10:44:11 PM
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I understand that Tuchel is better than Nagelsmann, there is absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind about that and everyone is correct about it and I support that. However, he joined just recently, what is it a few days at most before the game starts, maybe a week? That's not really ideal situation to be in and Dortmund is leading right now.

This means that Tuchel and Bayern could definitely win this game, but I wouldn't really put it against them if they lose, it would be highly normal for them to lose if that happens and I wouldn't blame them at all, they will probably win, but losing is still risky. If that happens, the point difference will be an issue.
Thomas Tuchel still needs time to find out all the advantages of Bayern Munich's players and adapt to the strategy devised by Tuchel. At least Bayern Munich currently has a very thin point difference with Dortmund and must win the next match to take first place under the command of Thomas Tuchel.

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March 25, 2023, 10:49:35 PM
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Bayern Munich fans have forget about controversial decision after sacking Julian Nagelsmann and replace by Thomas Tuchel because have important thing for Bayern how back to the top standing position awhile after left 1 points behind Dortmund. Up coming next games after International break out, Bayern have important match against Dortmund and become moment for getting back to the top position or keep giving chance for Dortmund lead top standing.

Left 9 matches later for Thomas Thucel answer questionable about he was right choose replacing for Julian Nagelsmann or he can't give anything for Bayern Munich are close with Champion League and Bundesliga trophy in this season.
bayern munich will face dortmund in the upcoming match, most likely this will be bayern munich first game under Tuchel's tutelage. Indeed, the point difference is quite close for these two teams and if Bayern wins, it is likely that the fans will applaud Tuchel, in other words he is able to bring Bayern Munich back to the top of the standings with a 2-point advantage. but that won't fully come true yet considering that dortmund which is quite strong in the bundesliga will be able to provide strong competition in this match.

Besides that dortmund who was knocked out of the ucl will focus their strength only on the bundesliga and the match against bayern munich will be like a final match for them.
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March 25, 2023, 10:50:54 PM
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There is a really nice competition between Freiburg and Leipzig for the fourth position in the standings now. Freiburg are ahead by a slight gap for now but the balances can change all of a sudden.

It depends on which side to play much better. On next game week I think both of these teams will finish it with three points. I don't expect either Mainz or Hertha Berlin to make big difficulties for them. The final weeks can be really interesting about the Champions League fight as well. We are watching another similar scenario to the previous season. Let's see which one of these teams will make it this time. Freiburg lost this battle before.

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March 25, 2023, 11:38:36 PM
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It seems that Bayern Munich's decision to sacked Julian Nagelsmann seemed very hasty without technical considerations, he managed to achieve positive results in the Champions League with 8 wins from 8 matches and an extraordinary achievement for the Bayern Munich team, especially against big teams like Barcelona, ​​Inter and PSG at 16th round.

However, on the other hand, Bayern Munich's management was not very happy with Bayern's achievements in the Bundesliga after being 1 point left behind Dortmund on current standings. Maybe this was  strong reason for sacking of Julian Nagelsmann, which shocked the public because of his extraordinary achievements in the Champions League.

I agree with you, they should be able to wait until the end of the season to evaluate Julian Nagelsmann's performance because so far Bayern Munich are still on a good track to win the treble this season. And finally they officially announced the signing of Thomas Tuchel, I don't know what the directors of Bayern Munich are thinking at the moment. It could be, this decision will be a suicide bomb for them, we'll see what Tuchel can do for Bayern Munich in the remaining matches this season.
The absolute decision has now been taken and nothing will make Bayern reconsider especially now that Tuchel is now their coach for the remaining games they will play.
The condition is actually nothing urgent, it's just that the dissatisfaction of Bayern officials has forced Nagelsmann to be sacrificed now.
Now we just have to see if it will be good for them or the same as Chelsea in the EPL but by looking at the condition of the squad and the name of the coach I think it will also be very good for Bayern.

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