Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Doell]

Dortmundo, in 3 games only scored 4 goals, while their direct opponents such as: Bayern, Leverkusen, Leipzig, Union Berlin, all 4 teams I mentioned have 8 goals or more scored, this shows that Dortmundo's attacking power is very weak, although they have not lost in any of the 3 games they have played this season, I fear that when they play against medium and strong teams then they will lose in those games. for example, in the next game of dortmundo will be against freiburg, but in this game, probably, dortmundo will be forced to spare players because 4 days later they will have a game of the european champions league and it will be the game against PSG, dortmundo is more Interested in the money and moving on to another stage of the European Champions League is more important than the Bundesliga game against Freiburg. that's why I see dortmundo losing against freiburg

Interesting analysis and in fact I see that bookmakers estimate the probability of Dortmund winning as low (less than 50%):

3.45 - 3.55 - 2.12

I’m not sure that the bet on Freiburg is justified, since the odds are not so good - only 3.45, and the game could end in either a draw or a victory for Dortmund. Maybe it makes sense to bet on Freiburg Double chance with odds 1.70.

Odds @1.70 on double chance, yes seems like makes sense Sir and I'll consider betting on Freiburg double chance. Also considering that this match will live at Freiburg home, and there is a possibility that they will not lose in that match. As Slow death said, Dortmund want more money and they will do very well to qualify for the next round in the UCL events, so yes I agree Dortmund will probably not focus too much on Bundesliga against Freiburg.

[Mame89]

Dortmund has been like that for a long time, they will never care about a decline in performance, and because no other Bundeliga team has risen so they remain safe at the top of the standings (below Bayern) because there is no significant competition from other teams, so I think this season it will remain like that.

And regarding the competition in the UCL, Dortmund will join the most difficult group with Newcastle, PSG and AC Milan. I think with Dortmund's current performance it seems like there is no chance for them to qualify from this group.

The worst thing is done by Dortmund where they always sell their star players, such as releasing Bellingham to Real Madrid. That's why their performance will not always appear at its best in every season. In fact, I think they will not be able to compete at the top this season because other teams are stronger than them, such as Leverkusen and Leipzig. So, this season we have seen Dortmund having difficulty balancing their game because in the previous two matches they failed to get full points. Maybe Bellingham departure will have a big impact on their performance this season. Well, if we talk about the UCL, Dortmund certainly have quite tough opponents in the group phase and I'm sure big obstacles will make it difficult for them to provide competition to qualify for the next round.

Dude, Dortmund's finances are bad. You have to give them credit for trying to keep the club going without foreign funding, which is against DFL rules. Similar to using duct tape to prevent a boat from sinking. Not good.

Yes, totally agree. As a Dortmund fan it's painful to see but it's right and better than being broke and in the state he was in before. This was a good strategy from Dortmund as it kept them financially stable over the years but it is one of the reasons why they did not win the Bundesliga.

The problem here is the private financiers with whom they invest large sums into clubs like City, PSG, Newcastle, Man United or Real (which would have gone bankrupt long ago if it did not have such supporters in politics, banks or private entrepreneurs). There is no chance without private capital to win CL. Even Bayern gets a lot of money from its shareholder Adidas, Telecom. The competition in which a club can gain strength from within through their own hard work is extremely unequal. Money talks

So a little proud of Dortmund because basically Dortmund is an academy for most European clubs where the development of young players is a goal.

[Avirunes]

Interesting analysis and in fact I see that bookmakers estimate the probability of Dortmund winning as low (less than 50%):

3.45 - 3.55 - 2.12

I’m not sure that the bet on Freiburg is justified, since the odds are not so good - only 3.45, and the game could end in either a draw or a victory for Dortmund. Maybe it makes sense to bet on Freiburg Double chance with odds 1.70.

I think Freiburg has good chance to win this one. Dortmund are very poor in terms of goal scoring right now. I feel if Freiburg manages to score 2-3 goals then I don't think Dortmund have a chance to win or draw. I also agree that Freiburg and double chance seems to be a very good bet here. It's gonna be a good shot as Dortmund has really let down so far since the start.

[Silence Scream]

Hoffenheim have also had pretty good results so far and from their 3 matches they have only lost to Freiburg. The two wins they achieved against Heidenheim and Wolfburg gave them a total of 6 points at the moment. Actually, I don't have any more expectations for Hoffenheim because they are just a weak team at the end of the season and are often in the red zone. But it is often their mentality and motivation that can lead them to survive in the Bundesliga competition. I think they will be back for the rest of the season and the rest they will have to make the most of by winning when they face opponents that are equal or that they can beat easily.

good performance shown by Hoffenheim at the start of this season could be good start to history or it could be a good start with the end of season still being same as last season because the few wins that Hoffenheim managed to secure, they only competed against teams that were little far below their performance and I just want looking at its performance after facing team like Dortmund or Bayern munich or at least Union berlin will provide evidence of whether Hoffenheim can remain consistent and if hoffenheim can get past this big team at least the result will be a draw. I am sure that Hoffenheim will have big changes this season.

we must not be skeptical about small team, which sometimes experience changes in performance every season, such as when new players or new coaches arrive who bring good luck to small team.

Talking about Hoffenheim's new recruits that I know, they managed to get Wout Weghorst, who played for Manchester United last season. But if we talk about Hoffenheim's success so far it is not because of Wout Weghorst but rather the squad which last season is still holding up to this day. However, I still hope that at least Wout Weghorst will immediately contribute to Hofenheim at a critical time. Regarding stronger opponents for Hoffenheim, I think it is quite impossible for them to win but if they hold a draw it is still possible. But still, I can't ignore the defeat against the strong Bundesliga team.

They started the league with 2 wins in 3 matches, and I think this is a good statistic for Hoffenheim. They suffered a defeat in the first match against Freiburg, but they made up for it with 2 good wins in the next two matches. Weghorst is a football player that we Turkish fans know well from his time playing for Beşiktaş. I think he will adapt to Hoffenheim and the Bundesliga more quickly and be useful.

[Oneandpure]

Dortmund has face difficulties this year particularly after losing Bellingham and other important players. For their long-term success it is essential to develop new skills. Unquestionably the UCL preliminary round is under pressure but Dortmund has a reputation for perseverance. I think even if the group that includes PSG, Milan and Newcastle is challenging, unexpected things may happen in sports. Although they have benefited from the weak competition in the Bundesliga Dortmund supporters are hoping for a change

After Losing Jude Bellingham, Dortmund have bad started in Bundesliga in last three games have loss two matches and get once winning match, its seems difficult for Dortmund have to play on top performance actually after leaving by important players in midfielder. Not only in domestic league but also Dortmund will get difficulties in UEFA Champion League matches after drawing have been in difficult group filled by PSG, Milan and Newcastle United. I doubt with current Dortmund squad have capacity for fighting in UEFA Champion League group stage get qualify to next round actually with bad performance in domestic league. After International break out, SC Freiburg are opponent teams against Dortmund and next three days later have to fight with PSG on Champion League opening match.

[hahay]

It is so bad that Dortmund do not even care if selling their players will make the team to be in a bad form, they just keep on selling their players just to generate funds.  If Dortmund was never interested in selling their players Dortmund would have been a great team not just in Bundesliga but also in the Champions league.  Bellingham is a great player that would have been very helpful for Dortmund but they do not think about keeping players to make the performance of the team good

Dortmund has face difficulties this year particularly after losing Bellingham and other important players. For their long-term success it is essential to develop new skills. Unquestionably the UCL preliminary round is under pressure but Dortmund has a reputation for perseverance. I think even if the group that includes PSG, Milan and Newcastle is challenging, unexpected things may happen in sports. Although they have benefited from the weak competition in the Bundesliga Dortmund supporters are hoping for a change

But in reality, retaining great players also requires large costs, because when a player has greatly improved performance then of course the player will also ask for an increased salary. Therefore, it is not surprising that Dortmund will always sell the great players it has, because apart from business and big profits, at least Dortmund is also not ready to increase their salaries to keep them from leaving. Anyway, cases like this are nothing new and also, you don't need to worry about Dortmund performance because over time Dortmund will certainly recover.

[len01]

Hoffenheim have also had pretty good results so far and from their 3 matches they have only lost to Freiburg. The two wins they achieved against Heidenheim and Wolfburg gave them a total of 6 points at the moment. Actually, I don't have any more expectations for Hoffenheim because they are just a weak team at the end of the season and are often in the red zone. But it is often their mentality and motivation that can lead them to survive in the Bundesliga competition. I think they will be back for the rest of the season and the rest they will have to make the most of by winning when they face opponents that are equal or that they can beat easily.

good performance shown by Hoffenheim at the start of this season could be good start to history or it could be a good start with the end of season still being same as last season because the few wins that Hoffenheim managed to secure, they only competed against teams that were little far below their performance and I just want looking at its performance after facing team like Dortmund or Bayern munich or at least Union berlin will provide evidence of whether Hoffenheim can remain consistent and if hoffenheim can get past this big team at least the result will be a draw. I am sure that Hoffenheim will have big changes this season.

we must not be skeptical about small team, which sometimes experience changes in performance every season, such as when new players or new coaches arrive who bring good luck to small team.

Talking about Hoffenheim's new recruits that I know, they managed to get Wout Weghorst, who played for Manchester United last season. But if we talk about Hoffenheim's success so far it is not because of Wout Weghorst but rather the squad which last season is still holding up to this day. However, I still hope that at least Wout Weghorst will immediately contribute to Hofenheim at a critical time. Regarding stronger opponents for Hoffenheim, I think it is quite impossible for them to win but if they hold a draw it is still possible. But still, I can't ignore the defeat against the strong Bundesliga team.

for Wout Weghorst, even though his status is only on loan, there is a possibility that this player will be permanently at Hoffenheim if he makes a good contribution, that might come true because I see that Wout Weghorst performance is not too bad and will be a player that Pellegrino Matarazzo can rely on as a coach, I'm sure. he would pay close attention to this new player.

but I qm curious about the upcoming match when they play against Union Berlin which currently looks more stable and if Hoffenheim is able to win this match or if not survive with a final score of a draw I can confirm a good start to the season for Hoffenheim but if it gets to the middle Pellegrino Matarazzo season was unable to stabilize Hoffenheim performance I would be more confident if it would just be the same as last season.

[laurenB7742]

It is so bad that Dortmund do not even care if selling their players will make the team to be in a bad form, they just keep on selling their players just to generate funds.  If Dortmund was never interested in selling their players Dortmund would have been a great team not just in Bundesliga but also in the Champions league.  Bellingham is a great player that would have been very helpful for Dortmund but they do not think about keeping players to make the performance of the team good

Dortmund has face difficulties this year particularly after losing Bellingham and other important players. For their long-term success it is essential to develop new skills. Unquestionably the UCL preliminary round is under pressure but Dortmund has a reputation for perseverance. I think even if the group that includes PSG, Milan and Newcastle is challenging, unexpected things may happen in sports. Although they have benefited from the weak competition in the Bundesliga Dortmund supporters are hoping for a change

But in reality, retaining great players also requires large costs, because when a player has greatly improved performance then of course the player will also ask for an increased salary. Therefore, it is not surprising that Dortmund will always sell the great players it has, because apart from business and big profits, at least Dortmund is also not ready to increase their salaries to keep them from leaving. Anyway, cases like this are nothing new and also, you don't need to worry about Dortmund performance because over time Dortmund will certainly recover.

I have no doubt that Dortmund's performance will improve. Because we have been seeing the same thing for the last few seasons. They sell the best player in their squad every season. And then their performance is unstable for some time. But with time they are able to recover themselves. This season they sold their best player to Bellingham. And now their performance is somewhat erratic. In three matches, Dortmund won one and drew two. If Dortmund's star striker Haller is able to perform well, maybe the consistency of Dortmund's performance will return.

[execijutiere]

Dortmund transferred winger Hazard to Anderlecht for a 4 million euro transfer fee.Dortmund wanted to get rid of the players they didn't want in their squad anymore, so they had to make an adjustment in the team.They haven't won a title in the German league for a long time.They will be able to spend money very comfortably in the transfer season as they transferred Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a record transfer fee.Hazard, who played on loan at PSV last season, didn't perform as expected and they wanted to sell him.

[rahmad2nd]

I think Freiburg has good chance to win this one. Dortmund are very poor in terms of goal scoring right now. I feel if Freiburg manages to score 2-3 goals then I don't think Dortmund have a chance to win or draw. I also agree that Freiburg and double chance seems to be a very good bet here. It's gonna be a good shot as Dortmund has really let down so far since the start.

I haven't checked the odds for these two teams, but if I refer to Asian handicap betting, the match between Freiburg vs Dortmund, the away team is superior with handicap odds of 1/2:0. Freiburg has a good chance of winning the match, because they will play this match in front of their own public. However, that doesn't mean that Freiburg will win the match easily, especially since they previously lost in a landslide by Stuttgart with a landslide score of 5-0. IMO, it looks like their defense is a little problematic. Apart from that, there are several Freiburg defenders who are absent due to injury.

On the other hand, Dortmund experienced a campaign with unsatisfactory results in their 3 matches. In fact, they seem to be having difficulty scoring goals. The last two matches they played ended in a draw. but after the international break, maybe their performance will improve. However, I have a prediction that Dortmund will win the match against Freiburg. It is very likely that Edin Terzic will rotate some of his players. I suspect that Niclas Fullkrug will be the main starter in the next match. and possibly, he could be a solution to the problems that occur in the Borussia Dortmund squad. So, to find out more, let's just wait for these two teams to meet.

[Litzki1990]

Dortmund transferred winger Hazard to Anderlecht for a 4 million euro transfer fee.Dortmund wanted to get rid of the players they didn't want in their squad anymore, so they had to make an adjustment in the team.They haven't won a title in the German league for a long time.They will be able to spend money very comfortably in the transfer season as they transferred Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a record transfer fee.Hazard, who played on loan at PSV last season, didn't perform as expected and they wanted to sell him.

Dortmund have sold several players this season. A notable transfer for Dortmund this transfer window was the sale of Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid. Dortmund sold first Jude Bellingham and now Hazard in this transfer window. After selling Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a significant amount of money, I thought maybe they would sign a new player with the money they got from Jude Bellingham's transfer, but they have not signed any new players in the team so far and they sold another player. I don't understand what Dortmund are planning with their team. Maybe the club will re-sign a young talent and develop his talent in the future and sell him to another club for a significant amount of money.

[Leviathan.007]

It is so bad that Dortmund do not even care if selling their players will make the team to be in a bad form, they just keep on selling their players just to generate funds.  If Dortmund was never interested in selling their players Dortmund would have been a great team not just in Bundesliga but also in the Champions league.  Bellingham is a great player that would have been very helpful for Dortmund but they do not think about keeping players to make the performance of the team good

Dortmund has face difficulties this year particularly after losing Bellingham and other important players. For their long-term success it is essential to develop new skills. Unquestionably the UCL preliminary round is under pressure but Dortmund has a reputation for perseverance. I think even if the group that includes PSG, Milan and Newcastle is challenging, unexpected things may happen in sports. Although they have benefited from the weak competition in the Bundesliga Dortmund supporters are hoping for a change

But in reality, retaining great players also requires large costs, because when a player has greatly improved performance then of course the player will also ask for an increased salary. Therefore, it is not surprising that Dortmund will always sell the great players it has, because apart from business and big profits, at least Dortmund is also not ready to increase their salaries to keep them from leaving. Anyway, cases like this are nothing new and also, you don't need to worry about Dortmund performance because over time Dortmund will certainly recover.

I have no doubt that Dortmund's performance will improve. Because we have been seeing the same thing for the last few seasons. They sell the best player in their squad every season. And then their performance is unstable for some time. But with time they are able to recover themselves. This season they sold their best player to Bellingham. And now their performance is somewhat erratic. In three matches, Dortmund won one and drew two. If Dortmund's star striker Haller is able to perform well, maybe the consistency of Dortmund's performance will return.

Dortmund lost their palyer Jude Bellingham just a few weeks ago and we can't expect to see good results from them after selling an effective palyer like him. I think Dortouynd will get better over time when they know how to cover the empty place of Bellingham in this team. Dortmund was always the team racing this Byaern Munich for the Bundesliga title.

[Doell]

Dortmund have sold several players this season. A notable transfer for Dortmund this transfer window was the sale of Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid. Dortmund sold first Jude Bellingham and now Hazard in this transfer window. After selling Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a significant amount of money, I thought maybe they would sign a new player with the money they got from Jude Bellingham's transfer, but they have not signed any new players in the team so far and they sold another player. I don't understand what Dortmund are planning with their team. Maybe the club will re-sign a young talent and develop his talent in the future and sell him to another club for a significant amount of money.

So far, their project only that. They keep develop players then sell them at high prices, I think Dortmund should have a chance of getting the Bundesliga title if they don't sell their key players. Also, If Dortmund had higher dreams maybe this club could become a great club at Europa. I mean there is a possibility that their performance in the UCL could also be better, and surely they can make difficult other big clubs in that competition.

[asriloni]

Dortmund transferred winger Hazard to Anderlecht for a 4 million euro transfer fee.Dortmund wanted to get rid of the players they didn't want in their squad anymore, so they had to make an adjustment in the team.They haven't won a title in the German league for a long time.They will be able to spend money very comfortably in the transfer season as they transferred Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a record transfer fee.Hazard, who played on loan at PSV last season, didn't perform as expected and they wanted to sell him.

I dunno why terzic did U turn for him. Terzic has been putting him into the plan, but he is now removing him from his plan. Dortmund is really inconsistent under him. I would not be surprised that if the club was rarely winning trophies.
Sad to see how eden hazard's brother must be coming back to the country again. I thought that he can get a better place. Thorgan hazard is old enough at this moment. He was also rarely playing for dortmund.

Dortmund said the club could not buy the new player if there would be no player left from the club. I don't think it's a sense reason for dortmund to kick him to the anderlecht.
Thorgan deserves more regular time to play.

[rendravolt]

Dortmund transferred winger Hazard to Anderlecht for a 4 million euro transfer fee.Dortmund wanted to get rid of the players they didn't want in their squad anymore, so they had to make an adjustment in the team.They haven't won a title in the German league for a long time.They will be able to spend money very comfortably in the transfer season as they transferred Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a record transfer fee.Hazard, who played on loan at PSV last season, didn't perform as expected and they wanted to sell him.

If I'm not mistaken, he is the younger brother of Eden Hazard and it is a shame that his performance did not meet Dortmund's full expectations. Thorgan Hazard showed his prowess in the first season defending Dortmund but unfortunately he was unable to maintain his best performance until now which ultimately made him fail. I'm not surprised that things like this will often happen because those who have got the stage immediately will also lose it quickly if they are late with the existing adjustments. However, it was the right decision for Dortmund to sell him, especially since he is already 30 years old so his performance will definitely continue to decline.

[len01]

So far, their project only that. They keep develop players then sell them at high prices, I think Dortmund should have a chance of getting the Bundesliga title if they don't sell their key players. Also, If Dortmund had higher dreams maybe this club could become a great club at Europa. I mean there is a possibility that their performance in the UCL could also be better, and surely they can make difficult other big clubs in that competition.

If Dortmund really wants to get the Bundesliga title, it actually very easy, like what happened last season, its one step closer to the Bundesliga title, but its like Dortmund gave up not getting the title even though it very clear that if they win enough matches, Dortmund can get the title.

however, we have to accept this fact that Dortmund will not be too concerned with the title but more with producing new talents and if for several seasons Dortmund does not sell its reliable players, perhaps Bayern munich and Dortmund will always compete strongly for the Bundesliga title every season.

[QueenVera]

If Dortmund really wants to get the Bundesliga title, it actually very easy, like what happened last season, its one step closer to the Bundesliga title, but its like Dortmund gave up not getting the title even though it very clear that if they win enough matches, Dortmund can get the title.

however, we have to accept this fact that Dortmund will not be too concerned with the title but more with producing new talents and if for several seasons Dortmund does not sell its reliable players, perhaps Bayern munich and Dortmund will always compete strongly for the Bundesliga title every season.

It's not a new thing, they choose to make money from their youngsters instead of utilizing them to get trophies and they've been the strongest team in the Bundesliga and probably had got the title from Bayern Munich if they kept most of their players in the club over the years, all they do is scout young talented players get them for cheaper fee and develop them into future world class players then sell this players for a very huge fee top other top European clubs when they've Proven themselves.
 For instance imagine if they still had Sancho, Haaland, Jude Bellingham and several other top players they sold, i think the team would had been very tough for Bayern Munich to handle and such team would perform well in a Champions League competition but no Dortmund choose the Financial benefits from player sales over trophies.

[legendbtc]

If Dortmund really wants to get the Bundesliga title, it actually very easy, like what happened last season, its one step closer to the Bundesliga title, but its like Dortmund gave up not getting the title even though it very clear that if they win enough matches, Dortmund can get the title.

however, we have to accept this fact that Dortmund will not be too concerned with the title but more with producing new talents and if for several seasons Dortmund does not sell its reliable players, perhaps Bayern munich and Dortmund will always compete strongly for the Bundesliga title every season.

It's not a new thing, they choose to make money from their youngsters instead of utilizing them to get trophies and they've been the strongest team in the Bundesliga and probably had got the title from Bayern Munich if they kept most of their players in the club over the years, all they do is scout young talented players get them for cheaper fee and develop them into future world class players then sell this players for a very huge fee top other top European clubs when they've Proven themselves.
 For instance imagine if they still had Sancho, Haaland, Jude Bellingham and several other top players they sold, i think the team would had been very tough for Bayern Munich to handle and such team would perform well in a Champions League competition but no Dortmund choose the Financial benefits from player sales over trophies.

We cannot blame them. Perhaps Dortmund needs financial help. They are a training ground that produces many stars. Suppose Dortmund has big financial sponsors. I believe they don't sell their stars easily. They have sold a lot of young talent but are still a severe opponent of champion Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. In the Champions League, big clubs also have to worry when facing them.

How strong will Dortmund be when it has a lot of money to recruit players?

[Unknown Op]

Talking about Hoffenheim's new recruits that I know, they managed to get Wout Weghorst, who played for Manchester United last season. But if we talk about Hoffenheim's success so far it is not because of Wout Weghorst but rather the squad which last season is still holding up to this day. However, I still hope that at least Wout Weghorst will immediately contribute to Hofenheim at a critical time. Regarding stronger opponents for Hoffenheim, I think it is quite impossible for them to win but if they hold a draw it is still possible. But still, I can't ignore the defeat against the strong Bundesliga team.

The early season success of Hoffenheim is encouraging, and their recent victories have shown their potential. Although they have had difficulties in the past, their resiliency and motivation may be the secret to surviving in the cutthroat Bundesliga. The real test though will come when they take on tough competition like Dortmund, Bayern Munich or even Union Berlin. These games will demonstrate whether or not their promising start is lasting. It is crucial to remember that little teams like Hoffenheim have the potential to adapt and compete at a higher level, and that they occasionally surprise us with unexpected improvements, frequently brought on by new players or coaches. Therefore, Hoffenheim position in the league is still up in the air but has a lot of room for improvement.

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We cannot blame them. Perhaps Dortmund needs financial help. They are a training ground that produces many stars. Suppose Dortmund has big financial sponsors. I believe they don't sell their stars easily. They have sold a lot of young talent but are still a severe opponent of champion Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. In the Champions League, big clubs also have to worry when facing them.

How strong will Dortmund be when it has a lot of money to recruit players?

No one will blame them because the biggest financial turnaround business they get is only in the transfer window so Dortmund will continue to do that job every season. I think Dortmund also gets big sponsors but they won't be able to resist big advances from other teams regarding their interest in Dortmund players so fantastic offers always make Dortmund release their star players in every transfer window.

Dortmund, with all its best abilities, is always able to produce many stars every season, such as Bellingham and Haaland, so they are only satisfied with having money in their hands in every transfer window. But when it comes to winning the trophy, it will be difficult for Dortmund to achieve it every season because they are always unable to compete with Bayern Munich.