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September 11, 2023, 06:32:41 AM
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If Dortmund really wants to get the Bundesliga title, it actually very easy, like what happened last season, its one step closer to the Bundesliga title, but its like Dortmund gave up not getting the title even though it very clear that if they win enough matches, Dortmund can get the title.

however, we have to accept this fact that Dortmund will not be too concerned with the title but more with producing new talents and if for several seasons Dortmund does not sell its reliable players, perhaps Bayern munich and Dortmund will always compete strongly for the Bundesliga title every season.
It's not a new thing, they choose to make money from their youngsters instead of utilizing them to get trophies and they've been the strongest team in the Bundesliga and probably had got the title from Bayern Munich if they kept most of their players in the club over the years, all they do is scout young talented players get them for cheaper fee and develop them into future world class players then sell this players for a very huge fee top other top European clubs when they've Proven themselves.
 For instance imagine if they still had Sancho, Haaland, Jude Bellingham and several other top players they sold, i think the team would had been very tough for Bayern Munich to handle and such team would perform well in a Champions League competition but no Dortmund choose the Financial benefits from player sales over trophies.
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September 11, 2023, 07:28:28 AM
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If Dortmund really wants to get the Bundesliga title, it actually very easy, like what happened last season, its one step closer to the Bundesliga title, but its like Dortmund gave up not getting the title even though it very clear that if they win enough matches, Dortmund can get the title.

however, we have to accept this fact that Dortmund will not be too concerned with the title but more with producing new talents and if for several seasons Dortmund does not sell its reliable players, perhaps Bayern munich and Dortmund will always compete strongly for the Bundesliga title every season.
It's not a new thing, they choose to make money from their youngsters instead of utilizing them to get trophies and they've been the strongest team in the Bundesliga and probably had got the title from Bayern Munich if they kept most of their players in the club over the years, all they do is scout young talented players get them for cheaper fee and develop them into future world class players then sell this players for a very huge fee top other top European clubs when they've Proven themselves.
 For instance imagine if they still had Sancho, Haaland, Jude Bellingham and several other top players they sold, i think the team would had been very tough for Bayern Munich to handle and such team would perform well in a Champions League competition but no Dortmund choose the Financial benefits from player sales over trophies.

We cannot blame them. Perhaps Dortmund needs financial help. They are a training ground that produces many stars. Suppose Dortmund has big financial sponsors. I believe they don't sell their stars easily. They have sold a lot of young talent but are still a severe opponent of champion Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. In the Champions League, big clubs also have to worry when facing them.

How strong will Dortmund be when it has a lot of money to recruit players?

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September 11, 2023, 07:36:16 AM
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Talking about Hoffenheim's new recruits that I know, they managed to get Wout Weghorst, who played for Manchester United last season. But if we talk about Hoffenheim's success so far it is not because of Wout Weghorst but rather the squad which last season is still holding up to this day. However, I still hope that at least Wout Weghorst will immediately contribute to Hofenheim at a critical time. Regarding stronger opponents for Hoffenheim, I think it is quite impossible for them to win but if they hold a draw it is still possible. But still, I can't ignore the defeat against the strong Bundesliga team.
The early season success of Hoffenheim is encouraging, and their recent victories have shown their potential. Although they have had difficulties in the past, their resiliency and motivation may be the secret to surviving in the cutthroat Bundesliga. The real test though will come when they take on tough competition like Dortmund, Bayern Munich or even Union Berlin. These games will demonstrate whether or not their promising start is lasting. It is crucial to remember that little teams like Hoffenheim have the potential to adapt and compete at a higher level, and that they occasionally surprise us with unexpected improvements, frequently brought on by new players or coaches. Therefore, Hoffenheim position in the league is still up in the air but has a lot of room for improvement.

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September 11, 2023, 07:57:42 AM
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We cannot blame them. Perhaps Dortmund needs financial help. They are a training ground that produces many stars. Suppose Dortmund has big financial sponsors. I believe they don't sell their stars easily. They have sold a lot of young talent but are still a severe opponent of champion Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. In the Champions League, big clubs also have to worry when facing them.

How strong will Dortmund be when it has a lot of money to recruit players?
No one will blame them because the biggest financial turnaround business they get is only in the transfer window so Dortmund will continue to do that job every season. I think Dortmund also gets big sponsors but they won't be able to resist big advances from other teams regarding their interest in Dortmund players so fantastic offers always make Dortmund release their star players in every transfer window.

Dortmund, with all its best abilities, is always able to produce many stars every season, such as Bellingham and Haaland, so they are only satisfied with having money in their hands in every transfer window. But when it comes to winning the trophy, it will be difficult for Dortmund to achieve it every season because they are always unable to compete with Bayern Munich.

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September 11, 2023, 08:08:36 AM
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Talking about Hoffenheim's new recruits that I know, they managed to get Wout Weghorst, who played for Manchester United last season. But if we talk about Hoffenheim's success so far it is not because of Wout Weghorst but rather the squad which last season is still holding up to this day. However, I still hope that at least Wout Weghorst will immediately contribute to Hofenheim at a critical time. Regarding stronger opponents for Hoffenheim, I think it is quite impossible for them to win but if they hold a draw it is still possible. But still, I can't ignore the defeat against the strong Bundesliga team.
The early season success of Hoffenheim is encouraging, and their recent victories have shown their potential. Although they have had difficulties in the past, their resiliency and motivation may be the secret to surviving in the cutthroat Bundesliga. The real test though will come when they take on tough competition like Dortmund, Bayern Munich or even Union Berlin. These games will demonstrate whether or not their promising start is lasting. It is crucial to remember that little teams like Hoffenheim have the potential to adapt and compete at a higher level, and that they occasionally surprise us with unexpected improvements, frequently brought on by new players or coaches. Therefore, Hoffenheim position in the league is still up in the air but has a lot of room for improvement.

The Hoffenheim team is not too weak. However, we have not seen good performances from this team in the last few seasons . And we tend to forget that one of the most renowned teams in the Bundesliga is hoffenheim.  In 2016-17 they were fourth in the points table and third in the 2017-18 table. They have started this season very well. Despite losing the first match, they won the next two matches against Wolfsburg and Heidenheim. But I am interested to see Hoffenheim's performance in the next three matches. Hoffenheim will face strong opponents like Koln, Union Berlin and Dortmund. And if Hoffenheim can perform well in these three matches, I think they can finish in the top 6 of the table this season.

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September 11, 2023, 08:23:59 AM
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Dortmund lost their palyer Jude Bellingham just a few weeks ago and we can't expect to see good results from them after selling an effective palyer like him. I think Dortouynd will get better over time when they know how to cover the empty place of Bellingham in this team. Dortmund was always the team racing this Byaern Munich for the Bundesliga title.

It would be very funny if this only relies on Jude alone because even though Jude is one of the good players there, the poor performance of Dortmund is not only limited to losing Jude because of the fact that they always sell their stars and last season they also lost Haaland but his performance was very good and could even compete until the end of the season.

Losing Jude is indeed disturbing but on the other hand there is something more disturbing where they always seem to lose momentum in matches at the beginning of this season which makes them always not separated from the series.
But on the other hand, looking at last season's performance, Dortmund is actually the same and indeed their development is gradual until they become a strong candidate for the championship last season, hopefully this season will be the same.

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September 11, 2023, 08:42:40 AM
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Victor Boniface transfer has turned out to be a really good one for Leverkusen already now. Because he has scored 4 goals in 3 games already. He didn't have very impressive scoring statistics before though. But Leverkusen must have signed him thinking like he is a promising player.

He is only 22 years old now and there is a long time ahead of him improve his skills much more. If he maintains this solid effort throughout the season he would increase his market value very much. In the long term Leverkusen can make a big profit in his probable transfer to a bigger team.

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The Hoffenheim team is not too weak. However, we have not seen good performances from this team in the last few seasons . And we tend to forget that one of the most renowned teams in the Bundesliga is hoffenheim.  In 2016-17 they were fourth in the points table and third in the 2017-18 table. They have started this season very well. Despite losing the first match, they won the next two matches against Wolfsburg and Heidenheim. But I am interested to see Hoffenheim's performance in the next three matches. Hoffenheim will face strong opponents like Koln, Union Berlin and Dortmund. And if Hoffenheim can perform well in these three matches, I think they can finish in the top 6 of the table this season.

Hoffenheim started the season well, but it’s difficult to evaluate them now, because the group of teams from third to eighth place scored 6 points each, it’s difficult to single out any team from this group after three rounds. So far, Bayern and Bayer stand out for their good form, but it’s hard to say about the rest. I also don’t like how Dortmund started this season, losing points at the very beginning with Heidenheim and Bochum is not very good.

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Dortmund transferred winger Hazard to Anderlecht for a 4 million euro transfer fee.Dortmund wanted to get rid of the players they didn't want in their squad anymore, so they had to make an adjustment in the team.They haven't won a title in the German league for a long time.They will be able to spend money very comfortably in the transfer season as they transferred Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a record transfer fee.Hazard, who played on loan at PSV last season, didn't perform as expected and they wanted to sell him.
They will remain the same as before and will continue to sell players to make a profit, this is what makes Dortmund unattractive and if they continue to do this it will be quite difficult for them to achieve success in the Bundesliga or other competitions. So far there are many young talents that they have released to other clubs and there they have achieved great success in general. Last season they failed to win the Bundesliga title and that happened at home in the last match and what I saw was that they didn't have a winning mentality and lost opportunities so quickly even though the title was in sight.

One win and two draws in three matches, this indicates that the squad they have is not very competent to compete with Bayern Munich or other strong teamsbecause they had to accept a draw with a team that is far from their quality. Dortmund must give up their habit of selling several quality players if they want to compete in the Bundesliga or Champions League. If this is not done, don't expect them to be able to compete with other teams.
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September 11, 2023, 11:03:01 AM
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Dortmund have sold several players this season. A notable transfer for Dortmund this transfer window was the sale of Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid. Dortmund sold first Jude Bellingham and now Hazard in this transfer window. After selling Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a significant amount of money, I thought maybe they would sign a new player with the money they got from Jude Bellingham's transfer, but they have not signed any new players in the team so far and they sold another player. I don't understand what Dortmund are planning with their team. Maybe the club will re-sign a young talent and develop his talent in the future and sell him to another club for a significant amount of money.
So far, their project only that. They keep develop players then sell them at high prices, I think Dortmund should have a chance of getting the Bundesliga title if they don't sell their key players. Also, If Dortmund had higher dreams maybe this club could become a great club at Europa. I mean there is a possibility that their performance in the UCL could also be better, and surely they can make difficult other big clubs in that competition.

I think Dortmund got what they wanted to get, Dortmound wanted to grow the younger players and help these talents to get in a better form. That's what they did so far with players like Jude Bellingham in the last season and Haaland in the past, I'm sure they are earning a good amount of money from these players like that and there is even the chance for them to do the same thing in the next season and sell more players because that's their first goal.
 

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September 11, 2023, 11:14:26 AM
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Interesting analysis and in fact I see that bookmakers estimate the probability of Dortmund winning as low (less than 50%):

3.45 - 3.55 - 2.12

I’m not sure that the bet on Freiburg is justified, since the odds are not so good - only 3.45, and the game could end in either a draw or a victory for Dortmund. Maybe it makes sense to bet on Freiburg Double chance with odds 1.70.

I think Freiburg has good chance to win this one. Dortmund are very poor in terms of goal scoring right now. I feel if Freiburg manages to score 2-3 goals then I don't think Dortmund have a chance to win or draw. I also agree that Freiburg and double chance seems to be a very good bet here. It's gonna be a good shot as Dortmund has really let down so far since the start.

Even Bayern will have a hard time winning if they concede 2-3 goals first  Grin although they often concede 3 goals after leading 5-0 or something like that. In fact, this will be another random match from Dortmund and I don’t know what bet to make is more correct, maybe it’s even worth making a live bet or just passing by this game.

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September 11, 2023, 12:44:11 PM
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If Dortmund really wants to get the Bundesliga title, it actually very easy, like what happened last season, its one step closer to the Bundesliga title, but its like Dortmund gave up not getting the title even though it very clear that if they win enough matches, Dortmund can get the title.

however, we have to accept this fact that Dortmund will not be too concerned with the title but more with producing new talents and if for several seasons Dortmund does not sell its reliable players, perhaps Bayern munich and Dortmund will always compete strongly for the Bundesliga title every season.
Yes last season was very close, it was a tense and interesting rivalry. Indeed Dortmund have that opportunity actually because they are smart in selecting and developing players, unfortunately maybe their goal is only money, not achievements. Even though if they can keep the key player, the gates are really wide open for them and their fans also will probably be very happy, because their chances of getting achievements are bigger.

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Dortmund have sold several players this season. A notable transfer for Dortmund this transfer window was the sale of Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid. Dortmund sold first Jude Bellingham and now Hazard in this transfer window. After selling Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a significant amount of money, I thought maybe they would sign a new player with the money they got from Jude Bellingham's transfer, but they have not signed any new players in the team so far and they sold another player. I don't understand what Dortmund are planning with their team. Maybe the club will re-sign a young talent and develop his talent in the future and sell him to another club for a significant amount of money.

I don't really know maybe Dortmund is just only after building and selling of players with the way the club is  just selling out talented players very season, with is actions I don't their after trophies to put smiles in the face of their fans, other big team are trying to be rebuilding their squad in orders to get opportunity to win trophy but Dortmund own is to keeping selling their players that they  need to keep in the squad to achieve many desire trophy.i can't really say but if Dortmund can continue like this it will be weaking the team squad and that can also lead the club losing their fans.

If Dortmund have not sell players like Haaland and Jude Bellingham and currently this two players are still in the squad Dortmund chances of win different trophies this season should have been increase especially champions league and Bundesliga and from there their recognition in clubs rank should have been batter than this. Infact this season I don't think that Dortmund is going anywhere especially in champion league with the way I see their performances.

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September 11, 2023, 01:47:34 PM
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Dortmund transferred winger Hazard to Anderlecht for a 4 million euro transfer fee.Dortmund wanted to get rid of the players they didn't want in their squad anymore, so they had to make an adjustment in the team.They haven't won a title in the German league for a long time.They will be able to spend money very comfortably in the transfer season as they transferred Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a record transfer fee.Hazard, who played on loan at PSV last season, didn't perform as expected and they wanted to sell him.

Hazard was once one of the most valuable players, now it's surprising to see his price drop so much. While older players were starting to make money in Arab countries, Hazard still seems to have chosen to play in Europe.
So I respected him, I think he can still play well in a good team Smiley

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September 11, 2023, 02:01:18 PM
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The only victory achieved by Werder Bremen so far was by beating Mainz with a landslide score of 4-0 without reply. However, when facing strong teams like Freiburg and Bayern Munich, it was clear they couldn't do anything other than suffer defeat. I think if you look at the track record so far for Werder Bremen it is not too bad or vice versa because basically this team is only at the bottom of the table every season.

In the past few seasons, the 18/19 season was one of their best achievements in 5 years by finishing in 8th position. After that Werder Bremen were still unable to compete in the top flight and only experienced the relegation process repeatedly before finally last season they return to the bundesliga. I think Werder Bremen must try harder so as not to experience a similar incident this season. Next, Werder Bremen will face Heidenheim and this should be a fairly easy match for them and even though it is an away game, Werder Bremen must take advantage of this situation very well so as not to lose points in the match against a strong team later.

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September 11, 2023, 02:05:25 PM
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The Hoffenheim team is not too weak. However, we have not seen good performances from this team in the last few seasons . And we tend to forget that one of the most renowned teams in the Bundesliga is hoffenheim.  In 2016-17 they were fourth in the points table and third in the 2017-18 table. They have started this season very well. Despite losing the first match, they won the next two matches against Wolfsburg and Heidenheim. But I am interested to see Hoffenheim's performance in the next three matches. Hoffenheim will face strong opponents like Koln, Union Berlin and Dortmund. And if Hoffenheim can perform well in these three matches, I think they can finish in the top 6 of the table this season.

Hoffenheim started the season well, but it’s difficult to evaluate them now, because the group of teams from third to eighth place scored 6 points each, it’s difficult to single out any team from this group after three rounds. So far, Bayern and Bayer stand out for their good form, but it’s hard to say about the rest. I also don’t like how Dortmund started this season, losing points at the very beginning with Heidenheim and Bochum is not very good.
We still need time to select and speculate on who will eventually be in at least the top 5 in the table, given that the clbs that occupy that rank are now practically the same and it must be painful for us to predict. Moreover, it is only Week 4 and it is still too early to conclude anything with regards to the stndings. They are still looking for their best form of play, and in that process surely one by one will experience a decline while others will experience an increase. And it's not impossible that clubs outside the top 10 will be different when entering week 10 for example and that can happen in footbal.

And we can't rule out something that happens very often in football, yes it relates to the decline in club performance due to the departure of many major players due to a storm of injuries. That's something to be feared, and another thing is that the depth of the squad is not very balanced so it's difficult to cover the gaps in certain areas.

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September 11, 2023, 02:14:11 PM
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Dortmund transferred winger Hazard to Anderlecht for a 4 million euro transfer fee.Dortmund wanted to get rid of the players they didn't want in their squad anymore, so they had to make an adjustment in the team.They haven't won a title in the German league for a long time.They will be able to spend money very comfortably in the transfer season as they transferred Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid for a record transfer fee.Hazard, who played on loan at PSV last season, didn't perform as expected and they wanted to sell him.

Hazard was once one of the most valuable players, now it's surprising to see his price drop so much. While older players were starting to make money in Arab countries, Hazard still seems to have chosen to play in Europe.
So I respected him, I think he can still play well in a good team Smiley

He meant Thorgan Hazard and not Eden Hazard but indeed, both players are 30 and 32 years old and they are not young anymore. Moreover, at this moment Eden Hazard is not under contract with any club or his current status is without a club. About Thorgan Hazard, it seems that this player does not have a big popularity so yes, it seems natural that at this time his performance has also decreased and is playing at Anderlecht. Thus, his move will certainly not have a big impact on Dortmund's performance this season.

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September 11, 2023, 02:20:22 PM
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Talking about Hoffenheim's new recruits that I know, they managed to get Wout Weghorst, who played for Manchester United last season. But if we talk about Hoffenheim's success so far it is not because of Wout Weghorst but rather the squad which last season is still holding up to this day. However, I still hope that at least Wout Weghorst will immediately contribute to Hofenheim at a critical time. Regarding stronger opponents for Hoffenheim, I think it is quite impossible for them to win but if they hold a draw it is still possible. But still, I can't ignore the defeat against the strong Bundesliga team.
The early season success of Hoffenheim is encouraging, and their recent victories have shown their potential. Although they have had difficulties in the past, their resiliency and motivation may be the secret to surviving in the cutthroat Bundesliga. The real test though will come when they take on tough competition like Dortmund, Bayern Munich or even Union Berlin. These games will demonstrate whether or not their promising start is lasting. It is crucial to remember that little teams like Hoffenheim have the potential to adapt and compete at a higher level, and that they occasionally surprise us with unexpected improvements, frequently brought on by new players or coaches. Therefore, Hoffenheim position in the league is still up in the air but has a lot of room for improvement.

The Hoffenheim team is not too weak. However, we have not seen good performances from this team in the last few seasons . And we tend to forget that one of the most renowned teams in the Bundesliga is hoffenheim.  In 2016-17 they were fourth in the points table and third in the 2017-18 table. They have started this season very well. Despite losing the first match, they won the next two matches against Wolfsburg and Heidenheim. But I am interested to see Hoffenheim's performance in the next three matches. Hoffenheim will face strong opponents like Koln, Union Berlin and Dortmund. And if Hoffenheim can perform well in these three matches, I think they can finish in the top 6 of the table this season.
Actually it too quick to say that Hoffenheim has stable performance at the moment, which make sense because in reality this club is capable winning every match and it even seems as if Hoffenheim has good strength to compete against other big club I will be scheduled for this weekend and a little it is difficult for me to determine will win between Hoffenheim and Union berlin because these two club currently very good stability and are almost difficult to predict.
I will agree with you Hoffenheim is able to consistently maintain it strategy and able to compete strongly with big club, it seems like hoffenheim has big chance of regaining its glory and getting new record to get best place in the bundesliga standings.

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September 11, 2023, 03:19:16 PM
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It's still early in the season and I think Hoffenheim will be the same as last time, they will only compete in the middle of the Bundesliga standings, actually this team has quite good performance and team play but like last season they can't maintain consistency and often make inappropriate mistakes. important so as not to maximize points earned.
Likewise this season, I think it won't be much different as it's still early in the season so we can't draw any conclusions yet.
It could be that this season Hoffenheim will give a slightly different appearance because they also want to make a slight difference to last season in this season. It is true that it is still early in the season so it is not very accurate to judge the performance of any team, but each team will definitely make a difference this season in order to be better than last season. Now Hoffenheim is ranked in the top six of the standings and I am sure that Hoffenheim will continue to try to be in the top ten of the standings until the end of the season, although I am also not sure that Hoffenheim will be in the UCL zone this season.

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September 11, 2023, 03:40:16 PM
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The Hoffenheim team is not too weak. However, we have not seen good performances from this team in the last few seasons . And we tend to forget that one of the most renowned teams in the Bundesliga is hoffenheim.  In 2016-17 they were fourth in the points table and third in the 2017-18 table. They have started this season very well. Despite losing the first match, they won the next two matches against Wolfsburg and Heidenheim. But I am interested to see Hoffenheim's performance in the next three matches. Hoffenheim will face strong opponents like Koln, Union Berlin and Dortmund. And if Hoffenheim can perform well in these three matches, I think they can finish in the top 6 of the table this season.

Hoffenheim started the season well, but it’s difficult to evaluate them now, because the group of teams from third to eighth place scored 6 points each, it’s difficult to single out any team from this group after three rounds. So far, Bayern and Bayer stand out for their good form, but it’s hard to say about the rest. I also don’t like how Dortmund started this season, losing points at the very beginning with Heidenheim and Bochum is not very good.
We still need time to select and speculate on who will eventually be in at least the top 5 in the table, given that the clbs that occupy that rank are now practically the same and it must be painful for us to predict. Moreover, it is only Week 4 and it is still too early to conclude anything with regards to the stndings. They are still looking for their best form of play, and in that process surely one by one will experience a decline while others will experience an increase. And it's not impossible that clubs outside the top 10 will be different when entering week 10 for example and that can happen in footbal.

And we can't rule out something that happens very often in football, yes it relates to the decline in club performance due to the departure of many major players due to a storm of injuries. That's something to be feared, and another thing is that the depth of the squad is not very balanced so it's difficult to cover the gaps in certain areas.

They have been inconsistent in the last season. And in the season they started with a loss. But now they have two back-to-back wins as well. The thing is they have only played three matches so far. So it is hard to evaluate any team based on only the starting three matches. We will have to see how they perform throughout the whole season. At least we have to see 10/15 matches from them. Probably after that, we can make an assumption about how they will end the season. Right now, it is hard to predict. But I am hoping that they will finish in a better position compared to what they did in the last season.

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