Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Sexylizzy2813]

We haven't seen much of the Leverkusen side in the club friendly games and we already know all they did last season and is like they're resting to prepare for the upcoming season which we know is not going to be an easy one this time around. With Xabi Alonso still with the team who he led to a wonderful finish last season, can we still expect same result or should I say something much bigger and better than last season knowing quite well that Bayern Munich are not backing down with the new manager Kompany, can Alonso's men defend their title and make life unbearable for the other Bundesliga teams ones again? To me I'm not sure about Leverkusen next season, how they'll play but I'll tell you for sure that they are everyone's target next campaign.

Like you rightly pointed out, haven't engaged in many preseason games like their counterparts from the other European leagues. The only preseason friendly game they've played so far is the one they did play against Essen on Friday but before the next season officially kicks off, Bayer Leverkusen have already lined up three friendly games. They play against French club Lens next Saturday before they'll play against Arsenal and then round up their preseason against Spanish side Real Betis. I think playing four games as preseason games as a German Bundesliga club isn't a bad idea considering the fact that the league is less  demanding than other European leagues that consists of 20 clubs

To me I feel these guys need to play less with what they have done but that doesn't mean they should forget what's ahead because when you think of what they (Bayer Leverkusen) did last season you'll be so happy to even say they don't need to play any friendly, just go and rest but in football you need to always be at your best and if you look closely you noticed that Bayern Munich are trying to get back that trophy next season. Not playing much games doesn't show that they (Leverkusen) won't do well, to me this friendly games is just to bring out those young ones, for them to showcase what they have to offer should incase they are given the opportunity to join the senior team and nothing more so I think the Leverkusen side should continue with the lite friendly game. And going against Arsenal is a game I believe they're going to try not to lose while Arsenal on the other hand have been brilliant in the friendly games they have played and the Gunners would like to keep a good record before the start of next season.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

I consider pre-season or friendly matches very important. At least for the big teams, these matches are important. Because only in the midst of these matches can you understand the capabilities of the team. And if the coach is experienced, he sees the performance of the players in these matches and identifies the team's weaknesses, and takes necessary steps to fix the weaknesses. Even in these matches, the coach conducts various experiments with his squad.

Leverkusen will face Lens and Arsenal in the next two friendlies. And these two teams are strong enough. Xabi will get an idea of ​​what his squad is capable of in the match against Lens. And I'm looking forward to Arsenal vs Leverkusen. In this match we will get an idea about the strength of both the teams.

Pre-season or friendly matches are an opportunity to see the quality of the players before joining official competitions and usually the coach will try to give opportunities to young players. The goal is to get the level of weaknesses that can be improved and find young talents to be included in the main squad. With the presence of pre-season or friendly matches, the coach can test several strategies so that he can decide to use them. Pre-season matches are considered important as an evaluation step and the coach has a view regarding the position that must be maximized and evaluated.

Leverkusen will face a much more interesting match because facing Arsenal will provide a real picture of the strength of Xabi Alonso's team next season. Likewise with Arsenal where Areta can make team adjustments before facing the official competition.

[CryptoBuds]

We haven't seen much of the Leverkusen side in the club friendly games and we already know all they did last season and is like they're resting to prepare for the upcoming season which we know is not going to be an easy one this time around. With Xabi Alonso still with the team who he led to a wonderful finish last season, can we still expect same result or should I say something much bigger and better than last season knowing quite well that Bayern Munich are not backing down with the new manager Kompany, can Alonso's men defend their title and make life unbearable for the other Bundesliga teams ones again? To me I'm not sure about Leverkusen next season, how they'll play but I'll tell you for sure that they are everyone's target next campaign.

Like you rightly pointed out, haven't engaged in many preseason games like their counterparts from the other European leagues. The only preseason friendly game they've played so far is the one they did play against Essen on Friday but before the next season officially kicks off, Bayer Leverkusen have already lined up three friendly games. They play against French club Lens next Saturday before they'll play against Arsenal and then round up their preseason against Spanish side Real Betis. I think playing four games as preseason games as a German Bundesliga club isn't a bad idea considering the fact that the league is less  demanding than other European leagues that consists of 20 clubs

To me I feel these guys need to play less with what they have done but that doesn't mean they should forget what's ahead because when you think of what they (Bayer Leverkusen) did last season you'll be so happy to even say they don't need to play any friendly, just go and rest but in football you need to always be at your best and if you look closely you noticed that Bayern Munich are trying to get back that trophy next season. Not playing much games doesn't show that they (Leverkusen) won't do well, to me this friendly games is just to bring out those young ones, for them to showcase what they have to offer should incase they are given the opportunity to join the senior team and nothing more so I think the Leverkusen side should continue with the lite friendly game. And going against Arsenal is a game I believe they're going to try not to lose while Arsenal on the other hand have been brilliant in the friendly games they have played and the Gunners would like to keep a good record before the start of next season.

Every season teams add several new players to their squads. And in these pre-season matches, the new and young players of the team try to adapt themselves to the other players in the squad, and match tactics. Also the coach can know about the overall condition of his squad. These are the reasons why pre-season matches are important.

There's no doubt that Leverkusen performed well last season. After a long time, the Bayern Munich team lost their dominance in the Bundesliga. However, I don't think Leverkusen will dominate the Bundesliga this season as they played well last season. Serie A side Napoli were champions in the 22-23 season, but performed very poorly in the 23-24 season. So I would say Xabi Alonso has to be very careful this season.

[BALIK]

I consider pre-season or friendly matches very important. At least for the big teams, these matches are important. Because only in the midst of these matches can you understand the capabilities of the team. And if the coach is experienced, he sees the performance of the players in these matches and identifies the team's weaknesses, and takes necessary steps to fix the weaknesses. Even in these matches, the coach conducts various experiments with his squad.

Leverkusen will face Lens and Arsenal in the next two friendlies. And these two teams are strong enough. Xabi will get an idea of ​​what his squad is capable of in the match against Lens. And I'm looking forward to Arsenal vs Leverkusen. In this match we will get an idea about the strength of both the teams.

Pre-season or friendly matches are an opportunity to see the quality of the players before joining official competitions and usually the coach will try to give opportunities to young players. The goal is to get the level of weaknesses that can be improved and find young talents to be included in the main squad. With the presence of pre-season or friendly matches, the coach can test several strategies so that he can decide to use them. Pre-season matches are considered important as an evaluation step and the coach has a view regarding the position that must be maximized and evaluated.

Leverkusen will face a much more interesting match because facing Arsenal will provide a real picture of the strength of Xabi Alonso's team next season. Likewise with Arsenal where Areta can make team adjustments before facing the official competition.

I agree with you. The quality of new players in the squad can be tested during the pre-season matches. New players who are added to the squad can be checked if they are fit for the squad. Also, coaches can experiment with different match strategies in pre-season matches. If the coach can successfully experiment and identify the weaknesses of the team, then it is possible to maintain the stability of the performance from the beginning of the season. But if the internal problems or weaknesses in the squad are not identified, the team's performance at the start of the season will be slow and erratic.

Leverkusen were last season's champions. The Bundesliga title will definitely be their target next season. And since Bayern Munich will be doing their best to regain their old dominance next season, it will be much more difficult for Leverkusen to become Bundesliga champions. So Xabi Alonso will try to stabilize the team before the start of the season.

[klidex]

In last night's match I didn't expect Bayern Munich to only draw with FC Duren even though in the previous match against FC Rottach they were able to score so many goals with a score of 14-1.
And what's worse is that Bayern Munich conceded first in the first half, this is a bad result for a club like Bayern Munich at least they can win the match even with a narrow score, this must be a revision material for Vincent Kompany so that his players play better in the future.

Source : https://www.sofascore.com/id/football/match/1-fc-duren-fc-bayern-munchen/xdbsFtrc

[Fuso.hp]

We haven't seen much of the Leverkusen side in the club friendly games and we already know all they did last season and is like they're resting to prepare for the upcoming season which we know is not going to be an easy one this time around. With Xabi Alonso still with the team who he led to a wonderful finish last season, can we still expect same result or should I say something much bigger and better than last season knowing quite well that Bayern Munich are not backing down with the new manager Kompany, can Alonso's men defend their title and make life unbearable for the other Bundesliga teams ones again? To me I'm not sure about Leverkusen next season, how they'll play but I'll tell you for sure that they are everyone's target next campaign.

At present the matches that different teams are playing these matches are only friendly matches so the teams are not giving much importance to this match but when the season starts but the main competition will be seen with each team. Leverkusen may not perform as well as last season in the friendly matches, but they will surely perform well when the main season starts. It will be very difficult for Leverkusen to do well this season as their biggest obstacle this season will be Bayern Munich. Bayan Munich did not plan against Leverkusen in the last season, but in the next season they will plan hard against Leverkusen, in that case, Bayan Munich may not want to lose points in any match. Leverkusen won last season so I would definitely want Bayern Munich to win next season and lose the Bundesliga title.

[Farma]

In last night's match I didn't expect Bayern Munich to only draw with FC Duren even though in the previous match against FC Rottach they were able to score so many goals with a score of 14-1.
And what's worse is that Bayern Munich conceded first in the first half, this is a bad result for a club like Bayern Munich at least they can win the match even with a narrow score, this must be a revision material for Vincent Kompany so that his players play better in the future.

Source : https://www.sofascore.com/id/football/match/1-fc-duren-fc-bayern-munchen/xdbsFtrc

I am not sure this match will end in a draw because Munich itself brought some of its mainstay players, and indeed this match is very difficult to win by Kompany's team, but if you look at the overall statistics Munich did dominate the match completely but they could not break through the opponent's goal to score the winning score, and the equalizer was only created in the second half, I see Kompany is not a good coach for a big team but what Munich gave him did not produce results I think he should leave the field. Munich is a historic club in Germany but they trust Kompany in all of this, I can't believe they failed to win against a lower caste club, I don't know how he will develop this team, a team whose players are all star players and he can't run it, from the beginning I myself have been full of doubts about Kompany who was appointed as Munich's head coach because he has not proven himself worthy of being there, but after the draw against Duren I hope he will immediately evaluate with his team so he can find his game to make Munich historic again in his hands.

[tygeade]

Defense is indeed something that Dortmund needs to fix before they start the new season, I see Dortmund's pre-season matches are not too good they always concede goals from weaker clubs, it's useless if they have a good attack line but their defense is weak then their opponents will know their weaknesses and create strategies to defeat Dortmund.
However, I realize that if the coach does not bring out the best players in this pre-season match I think Dortmund still has a good defense let these matches be evaluation material for the coach to solve the problems that occur in his club.

Despite pre-season matches not fully determining the form of a team, the truth is that many teams that perform well in pre-season often do well in the main season. If a team uses its full squad during pre-season and their performance is poor, it's unlikely that they will perform better when the season starts. I haven't been watching Dortmund's pre-season matches, but based on some comments I've seen, it seems they have issues with their defense. If that's the case, the head coach needs to take quick action and find a solution, perhaps by signing great defenders. Sometimes, it's through pre-season that one can start predicting some teams performance.

I disagree about that all together. I think friendlies means nothing and teams do not deal with anything serious and do not play that well at all. Players don't care, they are just playing like it's a practice game and they are just jogging, the mindset of "I must win this game" is not there at all, and this is why we do not see good teams end up getting great results against lower teams at friendlies all the time. What teams are trying to do in these games is to just test players and their fitness, that's it, if a player is fit that's good enough, and they try to see any new transfers and how they are doing too.

So, if you do not play any friendly at all, and suddenly put the players in a real match, they are going to be out of breath within 15 minutes, no matter how professional these players are, and no matter how great their body might be, if you do not give them some friendlies before the season starts, they will not be in shape, even an intra-squad friendly won't help you, you need to play against some other team. We will see teams turn it around when games start to mean something, I can guarantee you that. We are going to end up with Bayern, Dortmund and many others, end up getting their wins as usual.

[entertheabyss]

Defense is indeed something that Dortmund needs to fix before they start the new season, I see Dortmund's pre-season matches are not too good they always concede goals from weaker clubs, it's useless if they have a good attack line but their defense is weak then their opponents will know their weaknesses and create strategies to defeat Dortmund.
However, I realize that if the coach does not bring out the best players in this pre-season match I think Dortmund still has a good defense let these matches be evaluation material for the coach to solve the problems that occur in his club.

There are several measurable stats to consider as the board appoints Nuri Şahin as replacement coach. However he is good coach and will always knows the prospects to deliver. He's one of the youngest coach we have around in Germany, 35years old and watching him taking over from Edin Terzic, I give him some accolades depending on his stats for the club. Borrusia Dortmund have main issues and weaknesses that needs urgent fixing. The defendlines is probably a problem for them.

[reagansimms]

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Pre-season or friendly matches are an opportunity to see the quality of the players before joining official competitions and usually the coach will try to give opportunities to young players. The goal is to get the level of weaknesses that can be improved and find young talents to be included in the main squad. With the presence of pre-season or friendly matches, the coach can test several strategies so that he can decide to use them. Pre-season matches are considered important as an evaluation step and the coach has a view regarding the position that must be maximized and evaluated.

Leverkusen will face a much more interesting match because facing Arsenal will provide a real picture of the strength of Xabi Alonso's team next season. Likewise with Arsenal where Areta can make team adjustments before facing the official competition.

Coaches experiment more when their teams play in pre-season or friendly matches, young players get more playing opportunities so that coaches can assess their abilities. Coaches also often tinker with formations while the match is still in progress, the aim being to test the players' abilities when placed in different positions. The result of the match is not the main goal of the coach when his team plays in pre-season matches, he prefers to review the depth of his squad and also find new talents from young players.

Facing Arsenal is a challenge in itself for Leverkusen, but the coach will still not take this match seriously. The line up will still be dominated by young players and supplemented by several senior players, the coach does not want to take risks in friendly matches, maintaining the fitness of the players is much more important than forcing them to play, if an injury occurs it will be very detrimental to the club.

[bering]

In last night's match I didn't expect Bayern Munich to only draw with FC Duren even though in the previous match against FC Rottach they were able to score so many goals with a score of 14-1.
And what's worse is that Bayern Munich conceded first in the first half, this is a bad result for a club like Bayern Munich at least they can win the match even with a narrow score, this must be a revision material for Vincent Kompany so that his players play better in the future.

Source : https://www.sofascore.com/id/football/match/1-fc-duren-fc-bayern-munchen/xdbsFtrc

I am not sure this match will end in a draw because Munich itself brought some of its mainstay players, and indeed this match is very difficult to win by Kompany's team, but if you look at the overall statistics Munich did dominate the match completely but they could not break through the opponent's goal to score the winning score, and the equalizer was only created in the second half, I see Kompany is not a good coach for a big team but what Munich gave him did not produce results I think he should leave the field. Munich is a historic club in Germany but they trust Kompany in all of this, I can't believe they failed to win against a lower caste club, I don't know how he will develop this team, a team whose players are all star players and he can't run it, from the beginning I myself have been full of doubts about Kompany who was appointed as Munich's head coach because he has not proven himself worthy of being there, but after the draw against Duren I hope he will immediately evaluate with his team so he can find his game to make Munich historic again in his hands.

I can see it based on Bayern Munich squad from this match and some of their key players still unable to played because i didn't see the names such as Manuel Neuer, Harry Kane,Thomas Muller and Jamal Musiala besides that Bayern Munich new players such as Michael Olise and João Palhinha still hasn't make their debut with Bayern Munich so in this match Bayern Munich mostly playing with some of their young players and reserved players but this is no excuse for Bayern Munich's failure to get the win from FC Duren because this team is from 4th division of Germany league so although Bayern Munich playing with not their full squad but i think they should be able to win easily or win with big scores

This result indeed unacceptable but some of fans is still considers Bayern Munich under Kompany still required more time to adapt and next match Bayern Munich will fight against Tottenham and if we see from the strength obviously Tottenham is much stronger than FC Duren but i expect they can gets positive results from this match however the match against FC Duren is a nightmare for Bayern Munich new player Hiroki Ito because yesterday he was got injured after playing only 21 minutes and the bad news is Hiroki Ito has been got serious injured and he have to rested at least for next 2 or 3 month

[Sexylizzy2813]

We haven't seen much of the Leverkusen side in the club friendly games and we already know all they did last season and is like they're resting to prepare for the upcoming season which we know is not going to be an easy one this time around. With Xabi Alonso still with the team who he led to a wonderful finish last season, can we still expect same result or should I say something much bigger and better than last season knowing quite well that Bayern Munich are not backing down with the new manager Kompany, can Alonso's men defend their title and make life unbearable for the other Bundesliga teams ones again? To me I'm not sure about Leverkusen next season, how they'll play but I'll tell you for sure that they are everyone's target next campaign.

Like you rightly pointed out, haven't engaged in many preseason games like their counterparts from the other European leagues. The only preseason friendly game they've played so far is the one they did play against Essen on Friday but before the next season officially kicks off, Bayer Leverkusen have already lined up three friendly games. They play against French club Lens next Saturday before they'll play against Arsenal and then round up their preseason against Spanish side Real Betis. I think playing four games as preseason games as a German Bundesliga club isn't a bad idea considering the fact that the league is less  demanding than other European leagues that consists of 20 clubs

To me I feel these guys need to play less with what they have done but that doesn't mean they should forget what's ahead because when you think of what they (Bayer Leverkusen) did last season you'll be so happy to even say they don't need to play any friendly, just go and rest but in football you need to always be at your best and if you look closely you noticed that Bayern Munich are trying to get back that trophy next season. Not playing much games doesn't show that they (Leverkusen) won't do well, to me this friendly games is just to bring out those young ones, for them to showcase what they have to offer should incase they are given the opportunity to join the senior team and nothing more so I think the Leverkusen side should continue with the lite friendly game. And going against Arsenal is a game I believe they're going to try not to lose while Arsenal on the other hand have been brilliant in the friendly games they have played and the Gunners would like to keep a good record before the start of next season.

There's no doubt that Leverkusen performed well last season. After a long time, the Bayern Munich team lost their dominance in the Bundesliga. However, I don't think Leverkusen will dominate the Bundesliga this season as they played well last season. Serie A side Napoli were champions in the 22-23 season, but performed very poorly in the 23-24 season. So I would say Xabi Alonso has to be very careful this season.

Bayer Leverkusen can't be that bad next season but I believe they can never be seen as the Bayer Leverkusen of 3-4 seasons back, what I mean is that they are one of the big boys in the German league and their games will attract attention more because of how they carry the game and how they performed by dominating one of the strongest of all time Bayern Munich.
Imagine Alonso repeating the same thing by making it difficult for Bayern Munich, I think that would be the end because it only shows that Munich have lost that strength of getting back that glory and Leverkusen is a worthy champions but I can't say it will because even Dortmund are also getting ready to over shine Bayern Munich and the current Champions Bayer Leverkusen.
In Serie A I think is something that always happens when a team win the title they become useless the next season with a very poor performance and you'd be tempted to ask if this was the team that won the league or is there something wrong somewhere? I think is only when Juventus was in their prime that they won their league title severally without doing bad the next season but for Bundesliga I think it will be a different show, Bayer Leverkusen can still retain the title, even if they don't I believe they won't play very bad like Napoli did in the Serie A.

[ginsan]

In last night's match I didn't expect Bayern Munich to only draw with FC Duren even though in the previous match against FC Rottach they were able to score so many goals with a score of 14-1.
And what's worse is that Bayern Munich conceded first in the first half, this is a bad result for a club like Bayern Munich at least they can win the match even with a narrow score, this must be a revision material for Vincent Kompany so that his players play better in the future.

Source : https://www.sofascore.com/id/football/match/1-fc-duren-fc-bayern-munchen/xdbsFtrc

Bayern Munich didn't play well at all in this match because in terms of strength they were superior but they conceded early. A draw was the closing result in this match and if I pay attention, Bayern Munich were not serious in this match because not many main players played in this match. You are right, of course Vincent Kompany must be able to revise to improve young players so that they are able to show the best quality so they can join the first team.

Dortmund also lost in a friendly, so the friendly match is not important for the final result but is a match that is an opportunity for coaches to look for talented young players. Dortmund and Bayern Munich, these two teams must be able to improve their strength as best as possible for this season because if they fail to do so, Leverkusen will become champions again this season.

[Weawant]

In last night's match I didn't expect Bayern Munich to only draw with FC Duren even though in the previous match against FC Rottach they were able to score so many goals with a score of 14-1.
And what's worse is that Bayern Munich conceded first in the first half, this is a bad result for a club like Bayern Munich at least they can win the match even with a narrow score, this must be a revision material for Vincent Kompany so that his players play better in the future.

Source : https://www.sofascore.com/id/football/match/1-fc-duren-fc-bayern-munchen/xdbsFtrc

Honestly I expected Bayern to put up another land slide victory even if I know FC Duren is much better if compared to the other team Bayern played against earlier. They will be glad it's pre season games, so kompany will get a better insight from here on what to do and where to best make adjustments so as to fit in the kind of results he's aiming at. It's even a perfect scenario he got a draw immediately after a win so he se quickly how it can look like and what are the things he needs to quickly address as the season is few weeks ahead.

[mammusu]

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Pre-season or friendly matches are an opportunity to see the quality of the players before joining official competitions and usually the coach will try to give opportunities to young players. The goal is to get the level of weaknesses that can be improved and find young talents to be included in the main squad. With the presence of pre-season or friendly matches, the coach can test several strategies so that he can decide to use them. Pre-season matches are considered important as an evaluation step and the coach has a view regarding the position that must be maximized and evaluated.

Leverkusen will face a much more interesting match because facing Arsenal will provide a real picture of the strength of Xabi Alonso's team next season. Likewise with Arsenal where Areta can make team adjustments before facing the official competition.

Coaches experiment more when their teams play in pre-season or friendly matches, young players get more playing opportunities so that coaches can assess their abilities. Coaches also often tinker with formations while the match is still in progress, the aim being to test the players' abilities when placed in different positions. The result of the match is not the main goal of the coach when his team plays in pre-season matches, he prefers to review the depth of his squad and also find new talents from young players.

Facing Arsenal is a challenge in itself for Leverkusen, but the coach will still not take this match seriously. The line up will still be dominated by young players and supplemented by several senior players, the coach does not want to take risks in friendly matches, maintaining the fitness of the players is much more important than forcing them to play, if an injury occurs it will be very detrimental to the club.

Leverkusen is currently retaining almost all of their players from last season, so it is not difficult for Alonso to be able to maintain his team  performance next season, Currently all European teams are busy with pre-season matches to see how the strength and fitness of the players are ahead of the official matches being played later, even though we can say that Leverkusen can still maintain the majority of their old squad, but it seems like Alonso is still trying to continue experimenting in order to further strengthen his squad to face the Bundesliga and Champions League next season.

The match against Arsenal will be an interesting match, even though it is only a friendly match, but still both teams will field their best squad in that match, becuase I think facing a team of equal strength in a friendly match will be an opportunity to test the mentality and also the readiness of the main squad ahead the league starts for both teams later.

[Sexylizzy2813]

We haven't seen much of the Leverkusen side in the club friendly games and we already know all they did last season and is like they're resting to prepare for the upcoming season which we know is not going to be an easy one this time around. With Xabi Alonso still with the team who he led to a wonderful finish last season, can we still expect same result or should I say something much bigger and better than last season knowing quite well that Bayern Munich are not backing down with the new manager Kompany, can Alonso's men defend their title and make life unbearable for the other Bundesliga teams ones again? To me I'm not sure about Leverkusen next season, how they'll play but I'll tell you for sure that they are everyone's target next campaign.

At present the matches that different teams are playing these matches are only friendly matches so the teams are not giving much importance to this match but when the season starts but the main competition will be seen with each team. Leverkusen may not perform as well as last season in the friendly matches, but they will surely perform well when the main season starts. It will be very difficult for Leverkusen to do well this season as their biggest obstacle this season will be Bayern Munich. Bayan Munich did not plan against Leverkusen in the last season, but in the next season they will plan hard against Leverkusen, in that case, Bayan Munich may not want to lose points in any match. Leverkusen won last season so I would definitely want Bayern Munich to win next season and lose the Bundesliga title.

Lemme stop you there brother, Bayern Munich wasn't good not that they never saw the threat coming from Bayer Leverkusen, they felt relaxed like it was business as usual and when you see a team that wants to get what the other team have you'd know so Bayern Munich wasn't good enough to stop Leverkusen. And I believe Leverkusen next season, they will continue making Bayern Munich struggle to even get 3 point from them.
The friendly games isn't an event to say which team is going to be better when the main event begins, is like a trial and I don't think Bayer Leverkusen are thinking much about their friendly games but the league title they need to defend because like I said before, is not only Bayern Munich they need to worry about but Dortmund need to be included to their worries and is going to be a tough season, can't wait.

[Velvet78]

One of the things I'm curious about is what Stuttgart will do in the Champions League. The last time they joined this tournament was the 2009/2010 season. Their biggest success has been to reach last 16 phase.

While losing some important players (Guirassy coming first in the list), they have signed nice players this summer. They are starting directly with the league phase which is a good advantage. But I don't think they will be able to finish it in top 8. Instead I think they would try their luck with the playoff phase by finishing between the positions of 9 and 24. It depends on maintaining their game this season too of course.

Besides it has been a really long time since they last played in the Champions League so it isn't easy to be confident about them for anything. 

[SmartCharpa]

It was embarrassing for Dortmund to concede four goals against a smaller club, this is the first time I've seen a club with that name. I was shocked that Dortmund failed to score a single goal against BG Pathum United, and some of their key players were available. I believe their performance has weakened since their Champions League final defeat, and they have yet to return to their best form. Although some people believe that it is just a pre-season game, it does not mean that they would become weak in the league games, that was poor. 4:0 is a huge number of goals for a big club like Dortmund.

However, I believe the pre-season games are important for winning because they seem to determine the way they will perform in league games. Today, Dortmund will face another unknown team, Cerezo Osaka, if Dortmund loses today, I think the new manager must deal with the issue before the start of the Bundesliga games because if they continue in this way, they will be eliminated even in the Champions League competition.

This is just an ordinary friendly game and not to be taken seriously because some players plays pre season matches with carefulness so that they don't sustain injuries that may rule them out from playing their league games in the early start of the season so we shouldn't take friendly games serious at all however, any team can lose a match regardless of who they play because some of this mediocre teams are also doing well in their respective leagues just that those leagues are not too recognized like the traditional European teams that are always the center of attraction from fans all over the world.

Pre season matches doesn't determine how well a team will perform when the league starts, after all Manchester City lost to Celtics in their friendly game but that doesn't imply they are weak or Celtics is better than them because if it was to be a competitive match Celtics can't even score against Manchester City but since it just a friendly match there's nothing to take seriously there so same thing with Borussia Dortmund match against BG Pathum United, a team from Thailand. For Cerezo Osaka Borussia Dortmund has already won them by 2:3 so that's how pre season matches are, the outcome of pre season matches should not be taken to heart.

It's just a pre-season game, but it looks embarrassing to me if any of the big teams lose. In pre-season games, second-tier players are given enough time to show how well they can perform on the field, this is their chance to put their strength and compete for a spot among the first starting players. However, if the important players are on the field but the club fails to win its pre-season game, it will decide how well they perform throughout the season.

Manchester City, on the other hand, lost to Celtic and AC Milan, both teams play in the top leagues. Even if it is a match that is competitive I believe they will have a chance to score against Guardiola since no team should be underestimated at this moment. If Manchester City fails in pre-season games, I won't expect them to perform poorly next season because they have the best manager, Guardiola understands how to manage his club, he has been there for many years and won many trophies. Dortmund has hired a new manager, and I believe the pre-season games are critical for them to win.

[Weawant]

Leverkusen is currently retaining almost all of their players from last season, so it is not difficult for Alonso to be able to maintain his team  performance next season, Currently all European teams are busy with pre-season matches to see how the strength and fitness of the players are ahead of the official matches being played later, even though we can say that Leverkusen can still maintain the majority of their old squad, but it seems like Alonso is still trying to continue experimenting in order to further strengthen his squad to face the Bundesliga and Champions League next season.

Alonso will have it easier working with his squad since they are almost the exact same set of persons he did worked with last season, I believe that all he will have to do is just readjusting certain tactics and strategies to better their performance as they may face more challenges from their opponents this season than they did last season. Alonso appears not to give chances to anything even if he's confined in the strength of his squad, he's still trying to make sure he's able to keep his team prepared such that they aren't taken unaware at any point.

[Cryptmuster]

Honestly I expected Bayern to put up another land slide victory even if I know FC Duren is much better if compared to the other team Bayern played against earlier. They will be glad it's pre season games, so kompany will get a better insight from here on what to do and where to best make adjustments so as to fit in the kind of results he's aiming at. It's even a perfect scenario he got a draw immediately after a win so he se quickly how it can look like and what are the things he needs to quickly address as the season is few weeks ahead.

Neither the first convincing win in a friendly nor the second draw means anything, because I didn't see any first team players in the squad (except for a few), so it's just an opportunity for some young players to show themselves to the Kompany and get a chance to play again in official matches, nothing more. Maybe some players (especially those who played at the Euro) are still on vacation and their preparation will only begin, so before judging Bayern's results in friendly matches, it's worth waiting for the official matches, in two weeks they will play a cup match, it will be a clearer picture.