Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Zaguru12]

I bet that if you were the Bayern Munich coach, they still would have won 3-2 against Wolfsburg and 2-0 against Freiburg at home. It is the quality of the players in those games, not the coach. The coach comes into play when the team plays brutally dominant and you can literally see that the coach is transforming them into a monster. As I said before, Guardiola did that when Bayern couldn't be beaten in the Bundesliga and Heynckes did that. It was insane how the team played back then.

Take Liverpool as an example. Klopp needed a few years, but then the team was turned from a Volkswagen into a Ferrari. Same guys, but trained by Klopp. Bayern has achieved nothing. They won at home against Freiburg and you are talking as if they have just hammered Real Madrid, lol.

So it simply meant that any coach who was in the dugout today would have won the Match? I disagree with this assessment, last season Tuchel was on the touch line and Bayern Munich weren’t even playing a this football you. Called Shitty, they were apparently losing matches against clubs that they should have win Now Kompany took over from a disorganized and unstable team and now they have started to win even if it’s scrappy wins and also shown improvement in the playing style and you still can’t give him credit. Mind you he took over not from pep or even Hansi flick to say he took a winning club. His story is just similar to that of Klopp you mentioned at Liverpool and Klopp also didn’t get his team perfect until his Third season yet he was acknowledged before then. So Kompany deserves his flowers now even if it is too early we can withdraw it back if they don’t get better

[mv1986]

I bet that if you were the Bayern Munich coach, they still would have won 3-2 against Wolfsburg and 2-0 against Freiburg at home. It is the quality of the players in those games, not the coach. The coach comes into play when the team plays brutally dominant and you can literally see that the coach is transforming them into a monster. As I said before, Guardiola did that when Bayern couldn't be beaten in the Bundesliga and Heynckes did that. It was insane how the team played back then.

Take Liverpool as an example. Klopp needed a few years, but then the team was turned from a Volkswagen into a Ferrari. Same guys, but trained by Klopp. Bayern has achieved nothing. They won at home against Freiburg and you are talking as if they have just hammered Real Madrid, lol.

So it simply meant that any coach who was in the dugout today would have won the Match? I disagree with this assessment, last season Tuchel was on the touch line and Bayern Munich weren’t even playing a this football you. Called Shitty, they were apparently losing matches against clubs that they should have win Now Kompany took over from a disorganized and unstable team and now they have started to win even if it’s scrappy wins and also shown improvement in the playing style and you still can’t give him credit. Mind you he took over not from pep or even Hansi flick to say he took a winning club. His story is just similar to that of Klopp you mentioned at Liverpool and Klopp also didn’t get his team perfect until his Third season yet he was acknowledged before then. So Kompany deserves his flowers now even if it is too early we can withdraw it back if they don’t get better

And are you saying that the Champions League winning coach Tuchel is only to blame?

My point mostly is that after two games against Wolfsburg and Freiburg you already figured out that Bayern Munich was widely underestimated? I mean what do you think people expected when they said that Company is a risky experiment? That they are going to lose the first two games in the Bundesliga? Of course not. But when you play for Bayern Munich or when you are the Bayern Munich coach, winning has priority of course, but the "how" is definitely important too. Let me remind you that they have had two years now with big trouble using their ball possession and chances to score goals. It was a huge issue. They dominated the game, but they couldn't seal the deal. I don't see them as an improved team yet and I have no idea after two games whether Kompany is the right man or not. But I can tell you that there is yet no difference, which is ok after two games. For you Bayern was so overwhelmingly dominating the games that you sat there nodding "oh man Bayern was underestimated".

[Publictalk792]

And are you saying that the Champions League winning coach Tuchel is only to blame?

My point mostly is that after two games against Wolfsburg and Freiburg you already figured out that Bayern Munich was widely underestimated? I mean what do you think people expected when they said that Company is a risky experiment? That they are going to lose the first two games in the Bundesliga? Of course not. But when you play for Bayern Munich or when you are the Bayern Munich coach, winning has priority of course, but the "how" is definitely important too. Let me remind you that they have had two years now with big trouble using their ball possession and chances to score goals. It was a huge issue. They dominated the game, but they couldn't seal the deal. I don't see them as an improved team yet and I have no idea after two games whether Kompany is the right man or not. But I can tell you that there is yet no difference, which is ok after two games. For you Bayern was so overwhelmingly dominating the games that you sat there nodding "oh man Bayern was underestimated".

I do not think Thomas Tuchel is only one to blame for Bayern Munich poor start. It is too early to judge team after just two games. People were worried about Bayern new approach with Kompany because they were not sure if it would work not because they thought they would lose first two games. Tuchel tactics have been questioned but it is not fair to give up on him so quickly. Team has been struggling with possession and scoring for two years so it is too soon to say if Kompany is right person for job. Just because Bayern is dominating games does not mean they will be successful. I think it is too early to make judgments about how well they will do this season.

[bitgolden]

To be fair they did lose a game to Atalanta quite recently, so it is not their most recent loss, it's just Bundesliga one, which is of course still insane. They went a whole season without a single loss, that is amazing whenever it happens, in any league that happens.

Even Bayern when they dominated didn't do it if I remember right, PSG doesn't, City doesn't, to be fair nobody goes 50+ unbeaten games in a row, that just doesn't happen and they did it. In this season I didn't expected them to do the same, it would have been quite difficult and because of that I did expected them to have this issue, and that still doesn't mean that they are going to end up losing anything, they can still win the title even wit ha few losses here and there.

[Inwestour]

I think is better they (Bayer Leverkusen) lose the game at least one game and for those who are waiting and hoping for them to lose to have a rest of mind. To say the truth they need to be ready for something different and let that winning streak end ones and for all so that they (Leverkusen) can focus on something important like the league games and also the champions league games. If they still have that winning streak going on they won't concentrate on the game at hand but maintaining that unbeaten streak in the Bundesliga and it will affect their style of play.
Kompany can only go ahead of Leverkusen only if Xabi allows that to happen, I don't want a situation where we have to see Leverkusen struggling for steam because from the games both Bayern and Leverkusen have played I can only see Bayern Munich still struggling to meet up and I won't want to see the champions having say issue.

Leipzig is not a team that will give up so easily and even losing 2-0 they did not stop and were able to score three goals and snatch the victory. Bayer's dominance was very significant, but Leipzig chose a counter-attack strategy and it worked for them, although they managed to score goals from difficult positions that day, but Opend's skill brought results. Maybe for Bayer it will also be a relief when they no longer pay attention to another unbeaten streak, let it all remain in the past, and now they need to think about the new season. I think they will beat Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg, and then they will have a match with Bayern, it will be an important confrontation.

[hyudien]

To be fair they did lose a game to Atalanta quite recently, so it is not their most recent loss, it's just Bundesliga one, which is of course still insane. They went a whole season without a single loss, that is amazing whenever it happens, in any league that happens.

Even Bayern when they dominated didn't do it if I remember right, PSG doesn't, City doesn't, to be fair nobody goes 50+ unbeaten games in a row, that just doesn't happen and they did it. In this season I didn't expected them to do the same, it would have been quite difficult and because of that I did expected them to have this issue, and that still doesn't mean that they are going to end up losing anything, they can still win the title even wit ha few losses here and there.

It will not be easy to go through a season without defeat and from several strong leagues, only one team can at least record an undefeated record and that happened once and of course it became a new record recorded throughout the league. Now I think talking about that is like talking about something a little impossible, even though in the end we see a team that managed to do it very well. But that doesn't mean it will be possible again, even though the team is very strong, because there will be many factors that can make them succeed in recording a record like that. I have no choice but to say that one of the factors is luck, although this has also been controversial for us.

[W Jr.]

I think is better they (Bayer Leverkusen) lose the game at least one game and for those who are waiting and hoping for them to lose to have a rest of mind. To say the truth they need to be ready for something different and let that winning streak end ones and for all so that they (Leverkusen) can focus on something important like the league games and also the champions league games. If they still have that winning streak going on they won't concentrate on the game at hand but maintaining that unbeaten streak in the Bundesliga and it will affect their style of play.
Kompany can only go ahead of Leverkusen only if Xabi allows that to happen, I don't want a situation where we have to see Leverkusen struggling for steam because from the games both Bayern and Leverkusen have played I can only see Bayern Munich still struggling to meet up and I won't want to see the champions having say issue.

Leipzig is not a team that will give up so easily and even losing 2-0 they did not stop and were able to score three goals and snatch the victory. Bayer's dominance was very significant, but Leipzig chose a counter-attack strategy and it worked for them, although they managed to score goals from difficult positions that day, but Opend's skill brought results. Maybe for Bayer it will also be a relief when they no longer pay attention to another unbeaten streak, let it all remain in the past, and now they need to think about the new season. I think they will beat Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg, and then they will have a match with Bayern, it will be an important confrontation.

I think Bayern Munich won a very important 3 points by beating Freiburg. Because Bayer Leverkusen lost this week and lost 3 points. Leipzig, who hit them with counter attacks, gave Bayern Munich 3 points as a gift. If Bayern wins the match they will play against Leverkusen, Leverkusen's chances will be very weak this year. It was a very good start for Kompany this year. I hope they continue like this

[tusandii]

I am quite surprised to see the progress of Heidenheim because since promote i have to says Heidenheim performance is very fantastic and last season they are not only successfully to survive in Bundesliga 1 because Heidenheim also can finish at 9th place and playing at qualification stage of Conference league and in this competition Heidenheim can able to advances to the league phase which if i am not mistaken this is the first time for them to playing on that competition

In Bundesliga too Heidenheim performance is really impressive because from 2 latest matches Heidenheim can beat their opponents and today they can win with big scores from Augsburg and so far Heidenheim has scores 6 goals without conceded and they also can occupy first place of league table

Heidenheim's performance was impressive but for me it was very reasonable because the club that was opposed was only a club that had a performance under Heidenheim.
Like St. Pauli and Augsburg are only clubs that are easy to defeat but I still give praise to Heidenheim for success without conceding in these 2 matches.
I was actually quite surprised to see Heidenheim's appearance beating Augsburg with a large score while I previously thought that this match would end in a thin victory or draw.
After this, the big challenges will be experienced by Heidenheim who have to fight top clubs such as Dortmund and Heidenheim will compete away in the upcoming matches.
Do you think Heidenheim is able to appear consistent when fighting Dortmund?

[Weawant]

It will not be easy to go through a season without defeat and from several strong leagues, only one team can at least record an undefeated record and that happened once and of course it became a new record recorded throughout the league. Now I think talking about that is like talking about something a little impossible, even though in the end we see a team that managed to do it very well. But that doesn't mean it will be possible again, even though the team is very strong, because there will be many factors that can make them succeed in recording a record like that. I have no choice but to say that one of the factors is luck, although this has also been controversial for us.

Luck is a slight factor that affects a teams success in situations as this actually it's not key but if need be, the key factor is mainly the teams abilities and strength especially when expectations and pressures on them are minimal, but if the reverse is the case, then the team may not be able to maintain such records and Bayer Leverkusen is a typical example as seen, they literally had almost no pressure also season, so very likely this occurs once in awhile and not often and it's difficult for a team to maintain it for more than once in a row, I have not seen that really happen in a long time.

[Justbillywitt]

I think is better they (Bayer Leverkusen) lose the game at least one game and for those who are waiting and hoping for them to lose to have a rest of mind. To say the truth they need to be ready for something different and let that winning streak end ones and for all so that they (Leverkusen) can focus on something important like the league games and also the champions league games. If they still have that winning streak going on they won't concentrate on the game at hand but maintaining that unbeaten streak in the Bundesliga and it will affect their style of play.
Kompany can only go ahead of Leverkusen only if Xabi allows that to happen, I don't want a situation where we have to see Leverkusen struggling for steam because from the games both Bayern and Leverkusen have played I can only see Bayern Munich still struggling to meet up and I won't want to see the champions having say issue.

Leipzig is not a team that will give up so easily and even losing 2-0 they did not stop and were able to score three goals and snatch the victory. Bayer's dominance was very significant, but Leipzig chose a counter-attack strategy and it worked for them, although they managed to score goals from difficult positions that day, but Opend's skill brought results. Maybe for Bayer it will also be a relief when they no longer pay attention to another unbeaten streak, let it all remain in the past, and now they need to think about the new season. I think they will beat Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg, and then they will have a match with Bayern, it will be an important confrontation.

Bayern Leverkusen knew very well that at one point or the other that they were going to taste defeat in the league. For me I think it was very important that the defeat came very early, so that they will have enough time to organize themselves and shape their season. Yeah it's important that the burden of unbeaten has left them, so that they won't keep facing the media about the possibility of playing another unbeaten this season. Because every win that they would have recorded would have kept making people think that they are targeting another unbeaten run. Although I must say the truth, I never saw the Bayern Leverkusen loss coming, especially when they were leading by 2 goals and the time was almost running out. Bayern Leverkusen were the ones that always kept their winning very late last season, but this time around they drank from same cup to feel how painful it usually is, when you lose a match you thought you already got 3 points.

[mammusu]

It will not be easy to go through a season without defeat and from several strong leagues, only one team can at least record an undefeated record and that happened once and of course it became a new record recorded throughout the league. Now I think talking about that is like talking about something a little impossible, even though in the end we see a team that managed to do it very well. But that doesn't mean it will be possible again, even though the team is very strong, because there will be many factors that can make them succeed in recording a record like that. I have no choice but to say that one of the factors is luck, although this has also been controversial for us.

Luck is a slight factor that affects a teams success in situations as this actually it's not key but if need be, the key factor is mainly the teams abilities and strength especially when expectations and pressures on them are minimal, but if the reverse is the case, then the team may not be able to maintain such records and Bayer Leverkusen is a typical example as seen, they literally had almost no pressure also season, so very likely this occurs once in awhile and not often and it's difficult for a team to maintain it for more than once in a row, I have not seen that really happen in a long time.

In the past we have seen how big teams such as Arsenal, Munich and Juventus which contain great players were able to create a  unbeaten record in their golden era, but what Leverkusen did last season is actually impossible for other teams to do today, Leverkusen managed mantain their unbeaten record with only makeshift players without any star players in their squad and it is clear It is an extraordinary achievement from a team that is considered a mid-table team in the Bundesliga, the achievement achieved by Leverkusen is nothing but the result of hard work and also the unyielding attitude that Alonso has continued to emphasize to his players so far, besides that the poor performance of Bayern Munich and Dortmund in the league is also undeniably the reason why they easily maintained the record last season, So I think there is a luck factor, but it is not the main factor that made Leverkusen able to be an unbeaten team last season as you said.

[Silence Scream]

It will not be easy to go through a season without defeat and from several strong leagues, only one team can at least record an undefeated record and that happened once and of course it became a new record recorded throughout the league. Now I think talking about that is like talking about something a little impossible, even though in the end we see a team that managed to do it very well. But that doesn't mean it will be possible again, even though the team is very strong, because there will be many factors that can make them succeed in recording a record like that. I have no choice but to say that one of the factors is luck, although this has also been controversial for us.

Luck is a slight factor that affects a teams success in situations as this actually it's not key but if need be, the key factor is mainly the teams abilities and strength especially when expectations and pressures on them are minimal, but if the reverse is the case, then the team may not be able to maintain such records and Bayer Leverkusen is a typical example as seen, they literally had almost no pressure also season, so very likely this occurs once in awhile and not often and it's difficult for a team to maintain it for more than once in a row, I have not seen that really happen in a long time.

Even if Bayer Leverkusen doesn't win the championship this year, I don't think their fans will be angry with them. Because they played so well last year and finished the season that the fans are in love with the team right now. I think they will finish the season as second even if they don't win the championship. However, the season has just started and they still have a chance to win the championship. Yes, they lost a game, but that's not the end of anything.

[Nanga Parbat]

I am quite surprised to see the progress of Heidenheim because since promote i have to says Heidenheim performance is very fantastic and last season they are not only successfully to survive in Bundesliga 1 because Heidenheim also can finish at 9th place and playing at qualification stage of Conference league and in this competition Heidenheim can able to advances to the league phase which if i am not mistaken this is the first time for them to playing on that competition

In Bundesliga too Heidenheim performance is really impressive because from 2 latest matches Heidenheim can beat their opponents and today they can win with big scores from Augsburg and so far Heidenheim has scores 6 goals without conceded and they also can occupy first place of league table

Heidenheim performance in this match can be seen very well as his players have perform brilliantly and well, score 4 goals and not allowing a single goal to the opposition team.  This proves that this team is very strong and has good perform and speed.  And I was very impress with their match and I didn't predict this match.  But the way they were play it was clear that this match would be won.  If they perform like this in every match, every team will lose the match.  Because these teams play faster than their perform.  Congratulations to him for this win.  And on the other hand, their players have also work hard but not in such a way that they can win matches against them.  If they had won these matches, their glory would have been greater and higher than them.  But if it was due to luck and hard work they have also got victory and success.

[Docnaster]

Bayern Munich, Heidenheim and RB Leipzig are the three German Bundesliga clubs that managed to win all first two games of the season and if you ask me, I think it's a sign that Vincent Kompany's team are geared up to make up for the club's poor outing of last season. Defending champions of the league Bayer Leverkusen did lose over the weekend which was their first loss in 35 games and are now three points behind Bayern Munich so do you think they can still catch up with Bayern Munich? Or do you think Bayern Munich's impress start to the season won't last for a long time?

[Farma]

Bayern Munich, Heidenheim and RB Leipzig are the three German Bundesliga clubs that managed to win all first two games of the season and if you ask me, I think it's a sign that Vincent Kompany's team are geared up to make up for the club's poor outing of last season. Defending champions of the league Bayer Leverkusen did lose over the weekend which was their first loss in 35 games and are now three points behind Bayern Munich so do you think they can still catch up with Bayern Munich? Or do you think Bayern Munich's impress start to the season won't last for a long time?

I think it's too early to say that and from the two matches that have passed we can't conclude anything about the real strength of a team.
Likewise for Bayern Munich's performance at the beginning of this season, I think we don't need to be too excessive about what they get because Bayern Munich's strength is indeed better than the opponents they face, but the extent to which their new coach is able to maintain the consistency of this team is something worth waiting for.

And regarding Leverkusen's defeat, I don't think it's that surprising because RB Leipzig is a strong Bundesliga team and even this season RB Leipzig has been able to perform much better than last season.
And also if we look at a little bit of what happened at the beginning of this season, it seems that this season's Bundesliga is much fiercer in the competition for the title compared to last season, I think that will be a good thing for the Bundesliga and all Bundesliga teams.

[Dickiy]

Bayern Munich, Heidenheim and RB Leipzig are the three German Bundesliga clubs that managed to win all first two games of the season and if you ask me, I think it's a sign that Vincent Kompany's team are geared up to make up for the club's poor outing of last season. Defending champions of the league Bayer Leverkusen did lose over the weekend which was their first loss in 35 games and are now three points behind Bayern Munich so do you think they can still catch up with Bayern Munich? Or do you think Bayern Munich's impress start to the season won't last for a long time?

This is still the beginning of Leverkusen's journey, there are still many matches to be played to catch up on points from Munich, the chances are still very big, defeat in the match against Leipzig will not affect Leverkusen as a strong candidate for the champion this season. on the other hand Munich can be said to have a good journey in two matches, but to prove that Kompany is able to show his consistency we have to see a more interesting match to look forward to later when the two champion candidates meet on the field, seeing the schedule they will meet in the 5th week of the Bundesliga and I look forward to this exciting match.

[Republikcoin.com]

I think it's too early to say that and from the two matches that have passed we can't conclude anything about the real strength of a team.
Likewise for Bayern Munich's performance at the beginning of this season, I think we don't need to be too excessive about what they get because Bayern Munich's strength is indeed better than the opponents they face, but the extent to which their new coach is able to maintain the consistency of this team is something worth waiting for.

I am also waiting for that this season, namely about the consistency of a team like Bayern Munich under a new coach because the results of the two matches cannot be taken as a full assessment for this season, especially if in the middle of the season there is a team that is able to rise and beat Bayern Munich. Of course the assessment will also be different so it is true as you said that for now we don't need to make any assessment of a team even though we also have to monitor the condition of the team's strength this season.

[Blitzboy]

I think is better they (Bayer Leverkusen) lose the game at least one game and for those who are waiting and hoping for them to lose to have a rest of mind. To say the truth they need to be ready for something different and let that winning streak end ones and for all so that they (Leverkusen) can focus on something important like the league games and also the champions league games. If they still have that winning streak going on they won't concentrate on the game at hand but maintaining that unbeaten streak in the Bundesliga and it will affect their style of play.
Kompany can only go ahead of Leverkusen only if Xabi allows that to happen, I don't want a situation where we have to see Leverkusen struggling for steam because from the games both Bayern and Leverkusen have played I can only see Bayern Munich still struggling to meet up and I won't want to see the champions having say issue.

Leipzig is not a team that will give up so easily and even losing 2-0 they did not stop and were able to score three goals and snatch the victory. Bayer's dominance was very significant, but Leipzig chose a counter-attack strategy and it worked for them, although they managed to score goals from difficult positions that day, but Opend's skill brought results. Maybe for Bayer it will also be a relief when they no longer pay attention to another unbeaten streak, let it all remain in the past, and now they need to think about the new season. I think they will beat Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg, and then they will have a match with Bayern, it will be an important confrontation.

That Leipzig game was awesome. Two goals down was no problem for them. They flipped the script on Bayer. You gotta hand it to them, using counter-attacks against a possession-heavy team like Bayer? Thats smart football.

And of course, Bayern's sitting pretty now. Leverkusen dropping points gives them a nice cushion, and that mental edge is huge. But let's not count Leverkusen out just yet. Sometimes losing that "unbeaten" pressure can light a fire under a team. Their next few games will tell us a lot. If they can bounce back strong, that Bayern matchup could be a real showdown.

This is why we love the beautiful game. Its unpredictable, its exciting, and it keeps us on the edge of our seats. Leipzig just proved that anything can happen, and thats what makes it so great.

[TelolettOm]

Heidenheim's performance was impressive but for me it was very reasonable because the club that was opposed was only a club that had a performance under Heidenheim.
Like St. Pauli and Augsburg are only clubs that are easy to defeat but I still give praise to Heidenheim for success without conceding in these 2 matches.

Augsburg is a middle team in the Bundesliga. Last season, they were in 11th position. Actually, that's not a bad position. Even from several H2H matches between the two, Augsburg was the one who dominated. So, when at the beginning of this season Heidenheim was able to slaughter Augsburg with a score of 4-0, it made Heidenheim very satisfied and proved that their performance at the beginning of this season was indeed much better than last season.


Source: Heidenheim vs Augsburg
Augsburg h2h

Do you think Heidenheim is able to appear consistent when fighting Dortmund?

It's still hard to predict. If Dortmund play less optimally than the last match when they only drew against Werder, then Heidenheim might have a chance. But for sure, this might be a pretty tight match. However, I still believe that Dortmund will be leading, I don't think that they will make any more mistakes this time.

[Lafu]

Leipzig is not a team that will give up so easily and even losing 2-0 they did not stop and were able to score three goals and snatch the victory.

Maybe Leverkusen was too sure that they would win this game with the 2 goals of leading at that stage.
Leipzig is never to be underestimated even when they are 1 or 2 goals back and they played very well the second halftime of the game.

Maybe for Bayer it will also be a relief when they no longer pay attention to another unbeaten streak, let it all remain in the past, and now they need to think about the new season.
I think they will beat Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg, and then they will have a match with Bayern, it will be an important confrontation.

Yeb sometimes a lose can activate some energy and ideas also specially when you havnt lost a game for so long as Leverkusen.
All the coming games are important in the race of the title again.