Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Leviathan.007]

I don't feel like you. Dominating the Bundesliga is more difficult for Bayern Munich this season. Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Dortmund are in good form. On the other hand, Vincent Kompany is yet to stabilize his squad. Although Bayern Munich won the match against Wolfsburg, Munich conceded two goals in this match. I look forward to seeing Munich's performance against the big teams.

Totally agree with what you said and I will also see how Bayern Munich plays when hosting Freiburg at the Allianz Arena because the Freiburg team has also been able to win in their first match this season and is also ranked first in the Bundesliga. So I think the next match for Bayern Munich will definitely be quite fierce because Freiburg is also not a weak team in the Bundesliga although I don't think Freiburg can win easily at the Allianz Arena later. Because Bayern Munich will definitely try hard to win at their home ground.

I was not expecting to see this but it seems the situation is getting better for Bayern Munich since they started working with Kompney and they are were performing well enough so far during the game we saw from this team. Bayern Munich's performance against Freiburg was very well and this made me hope to see even better results from this team in the next games however playing against a team like Freiburg won't be the same as playing against stronger teams in the Champions League at all.
 

[kawetsriyanto]

But, by the way, how can a team like Heidenheim be the top team in the current Bundesliga standings? Indeed, the Bundesliga has just played two matches but Heidenheim managed to make two wins with clean sheets and also won with big score in the previous match with a score of 0-2 and 4-0. With results like that, Heidenheim has a better number of goals compared to Bayern Munich, even though their points are the same but Heidenheim managed to be at the top.

But indeed, even so, of course I am also sure that Heidenheim will quickly fall because after all, in the next match Heidenheim will play away against Dortmund. With a match like this, of course it is a real challenge for Heidenheim whether they will still be able to get points or not.

Heidenheim was in the top 8, I'm not really surprised if they could win in 2 early matches. Moreover, they just played against weak teams (FC St. Pauli and Augsburg). I'm sure every big team in Bundesliga will easily get points as well if they play against these teams. So, I think Heidenheim is just lucky in this early season. Heidenheim still doesn't face real challenges yet.

Yep. They will play against Dortmund away. Considering the quality of the players and where the match to be held, I'm very sure Dortmund will win the match. Dortmund is always the candidate of the champion in each season. They must try all out winning the match, especially for a home match. 3 points got from the match against Heidenheim will keep their confident for the title race. So, no doubt Dortmund will play optimally winning the match.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

I was not expecting to see this but it seems the situation is getting better for Bayern Munich since they started working with Kompney and they are were performing well enough so far during the game we saw from this team. Bayern Munich's performance against Freiburg was very well and this made me hope to see even better results from this team in the next games however playing against a team like Freiburg won't be the same as playing against stronger teams in the Champions League at all.

So far Kompany has been successful in handling Bayern Munich and he has been able to deliver wins in every game, but this is not really a big test because we haven't seen them face a strong team. I want to see Bayern Munich face a much more balanced team so that we can get an idea of his quality as a coach. Handling a big team like Bayern Munich is not easy because he is required to achieve good results and if he fails, the consequence is that he will be fired early.

Bayern Munich will face Dinamo Zagreb in the Champions League after playing the third game in the Bundesliga and this will be the start for Kompany so he has to deliver a win. The real test will be felt when he faces a much more balanced team because it takes strategy to be able to deliver a win.

[tusandii]

I don't feel like you. Dominating the Bundesliga is more difficult for Bayern Munich this season. Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Dortmund are in good form. On the other hand, Vincent Kompany is yet to stabilize his squad. Although Bayern Munich won the match against Wolfsburg, Munich conceded two goals in this match. I look forward to seeing Munich's performance against the big teams.

Totally agree with what you said and I will also see how Bayern Munich plays when hosting Freiburg at the Allianz Arena because the Freiburg team has also been able to win in their first match this season and is also ranked first in the Bundesliga. So I think the next match for Bayern Munich will definitely be quite fierce because Freiburg is also not a weak team in the Bundesliga although I don't think Freiburg can win easily at the Allianz Arena later. Because Bayern Munich will definitely try hard to win at their home ground.

I didn't expect that when Vincent Kompeny did a good job at the beginning of his debut, people still thought that Bayern Munich had not performed well and questioned Bayern conceding 2 goals from their 2 matches, even though I think this is not a problem because the most important thing is that Bayern Munich won at the end and got full points. In the next match I think Bayern Munich will win the match again because Bayern Munich has a bigger advantage, I'm sure Freiburg will not be able to make it difficult for Bayern Munich, in their last match they were defeated by Stuttgart with a landslide score at their home ground.

[reagansimms]

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I was not expecting to see this but it seems the situation is getting better for Bayern Munich since they started working with Kompney and they are were performing well enough so far during the game we saw from this team. Bayern Munich's performance against Freiburg was very well and this made me hope to see even better results from this team in the next games however playing against a team like Freiburg won't be the same as playing against stronger teams in the Champions League at all.

Well, this is what is worrying because Kompany has no experience leading a team in a big competition like the Champions League. Starting the season well will increase the motivation of the players to maintain their performance and forget about last season's failure. Now Bayern Munich has started a new chapter with Kompany and the results achieved in the last match were quite satisfactory. Kompany must continue to work hard to give his best for Bayern Munich, the positive results that have just been achieved are just the beginning, he needs to fix every deficiency in his team to achieve maximum results, especially since there are still many matches waiting for them in the future.

[JeffBrad12]

Bayern Munich will face Dinamo Zagreb in the Champions League after playing the third game in the Bundesliga and this will be the start for Kompany so he has to deliver a win. The real test will be felt when he faces a much more balanced team because it takes strategy to be able to deliver a win.

The picture below the odds movement for Munich vs Zagreb. It's looking stable.



The huge gap in odds from either of club tells Bayern Munich most likely to win the game easily. I think it makes sense. They're unbeaten in their last five home games. They're facing a weak team, Zagreb.

And i see Zagreb has no chance to win against Bayern Munich. Their record is 3 wins, 1 loss, and 1 draw. It's not bad. But, those stats don't convince me they can beat Bayern away.

But i think the odds's not worthy enough (too small). And over 2.5 seems pretty good enough to bet in this game.  

[len01]

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The huge gap in odds from either of club tells Bayern Munich most likely to win the game easily. I think it makes sense. They're unbeaten in their last five home games. They're facing a weak team, Zagreb.

And i see Zagreb has no chance to win against Bayern Munich. Their record is 3 wins, 1 loss, and 1 draw. It's not bad. But, those stats don't convince me they can beat Bayern away.

But i think the odds's not worthy enough (too small). And over 2.5 seems pretty good enough to bet in this game.  

To predict the result of Munich match in the UCL is not too difficult because the guarantee of victory looks more certain. On the one hand, Zagreb is not an equal opponent for Munich and will not put any pressure on Kompany.
But the problem is that Bayern Munich before appearing in the UCL must face Holstein Kiel who once defeated Munich in the DFB competition. Well, this is the pressure for Kompany who must manage the players properly so as not to experience defeat in 2 competitions at once. And if in the domestic match Munich will appear with second string players, Holstein Kiel will most likely still be able to hold a draw against Munich.

Betting on over 2.5 in the UCL match might be the right choice, but to bet on the match against Holstein Kiel, we must be careful and prefer to see the formation used by Kompany in the match this weekend.

[mammusu]

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I was not expecting to see this but it seems the situation is getting better for Bayern Munich since they started working with Kompney and they are were performing well enough so far during the game we saw from this team. Bayern Munich's performance against Freiburg was very well and this made me hope to see even better results from this team in the next games however playing against a team like Freiburg won't be the same as playing against stronger teams in the Champions League at all.

Well, this is what is worrying because Kompany has no experience leading a team in a big competition like the Champions League. Starting the season well will increase the motivation of the players to maintain their performance and forget about last season's failure. Now Bayern Munich has started a new chapter with Kompany and the results achieved in the last match were quite satisfactory. Kompany must continue to work hard to give his best for Bayern Munich, the positive results that have just been achieved are just the beginning, he needs to fix every deficiency in his team to achieve maximum results, especially since there are still many matches waiting for them in the future.

Bayern Munich has currently managed to achieve two consecutive wins over their opponents, so this is actually starting to give fans confidence in Kompany current performance in coaching, but isn't winning in two matches still too early for us to judge if Kompany has been successful in coaching Bayern?
So far, apart from Dortmund, Leipzig and Leverkusen, I don't think there is any other strong team that might be an obstacle for Munich at the moment, Freiburg in the last few seasons has not been in good condition so beating Freiburg cannot be a reference if Bayern Munich is very strong tt the moment.

The victory over Freiburg can at least raise the motivation of the Bayern Munich players, but the Champions League still has its own challenges which often destroy the careers of experienced coaches because of their failures, so for now Bayern Munich fans should not have too much hope to see their team be able to winning the Champions League, indeed Munich has a capable squad at the moment, but we know for to be winning the Champions League of course a qualified squad is not enough if it is not supported by consistency, mentality, experience and good game strategy.

[Farma]

Bayern Munich has currently managed to achieve two consecutive wins over their opponents, so this is actually starting to give fans confidence in Kompany current performance in coaching, but isn't winning in two matches still too early for us to judge if Kompany has been successful in coaching Bayern?
So far, apart from Dortmund, Leipzig and Leverkusen, I don't think there is any other strong team that might be an obstacle for Munich at the moment, Freiburg in the last few seasons has not been in good condition so beating Freiburg cannot be a reference if Bayern Munich is very strong tt the moment.

The victory over Freiburg can at least raise the motivation of the Bayern Munich players, but the Champions League still has its own challenges which often destroy the careers of experienced coaches because of their failures, so for now Bayern Munich fans should not have too much hope to see their team be able to winning the Champions League, indeed Munich has a capable squad at the moment, but we know for to be winning the Champions League of course a qualified squad is not enough if it is not supported by consistency, mentality, experience and good game strategy.

It is still too early to measure strength and say that Bayern is stronger this season if only seen from two matches, but the impact of the two wins at the beginning of the season that they have achieved is very large, especially for their new coach Kompany who was initially doubted, this could be a point of confidence for Kompany and all the players in the Bayern squad to be able to improve their performance again.

In the Champions League, the Bayern Munich team is always taken into account, but this season we see it realistically that Bayern Munich is a team that is improving to be able to rise again with its new coach who has no experience and even Bayern Munich's main target is to win the Bundesliga title again this season, but for a team as big as Bayern Munich, they also shifted their focus to the CL competition, so I think it's not a big surprise if they can compete fiercely in the CL this season.

[Alpha Marine]

Some people’s saying a word out of a sentence if not how will them make an early prediction against the Leverkusen just because they see that Dortmund have make small movement which their able to manage the 4the position in the table, I think this is just the beginning of the season for those that are making early statements should hold on first; and allow the season to go far so that we knows who are more better pass. But stated that Dortmund are more better than Bayern leverkusen how never believe with, because everyone knows how their performances be even last with they way they remain unbeaten in that last season and even this season they will still be strong sure.

Dortmund is one team I can never take seriously again no matter what they do. Even if they top the league with 10 points I do not care. Their inconsistency is on a different level and I can't trust them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt the season before last season when all they needed to win the league was to win Mainz on the final day of the season and they couldn't. They couldn't even get a draw. Mind you this was a team that had about 5 points more than Bayern Munich.

Saying Dortmund if better than Leverkusen after just 2 matches is funny. One would think Dortmund won both their matches but they actually drew one and won one, While Leverkusen won one and lost one. There is no much difference at this point because it's just a 2 points difference and knowing Dortmund, they'll definitely drop more points.

[Fuso.hp]

This season Dortmund is still a team that every opponent must be wary of even though their orientation in business such as selling good players has not stopped at this time. However, considering that Dortmund can always produce other new players to be better, it can at least still give them good hope this season so it would be very reasonable if we put Dortmund in the league title race this season even though teams like Leverkusen must also be an important consideration for Bayern Munich and Dortmund this season.

I don't think Dortmund will be a fierce competitor in the Bundesliga title race this season, they have undergone a lot of changes and on the other hand Bundesliga teams like Leverkusen, Leipzig and also Bayern have improved much stronger, it is the opposite of Dortmund so I doubt a little that Dortmund will compete fiercely in the title race especially this season they have a new coach of course every new coach needs to adapt in building a team as well as for Dortmund's new coach this season.

All in all, it's going to be a tough competition in the Bundesliga this season. In other seasons we see two teams leading the fight for the title but this season bayan munich is doing well and they will be consistent whereas dotmund has started the season fresh and the other two teams you have mentioned the season will be full of competition. When local league tournaments are full of competition, it will be easier for other teams from that league to participate in major European tournaments to do well in major tournaments. Banyan Munich lost the title to Leverkusen last season and they will definitely want to win the title this season while Dortmund have not been doing well in the last few seasons and they are also likely to come back this season.

[junder]

Some people’s saying a word out of a sentence if not how will them make an early prediction against the Leverkusen just because they see that Dortmund have make small movement which their able to manage the 4the position in the table, I think this is just the beginning of the season for those that are making early statements should hold on first; and allow the season to go far so that we knows who are more better pass. But stated that Dortmund are more better than Bayern leverkusen how never believe with, because everyone knows how their performances be even last with they way they remain unbeaten in that last season and even this season they will still be strong sure.

Dortmund is one team I can never take seriously again no matter what they do. Even if they top the league with 10 points I do not care. Their inconsistency is on a different level and I can't trust them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt the season before last season when all they needed to win the league was to win Mainz on the final day of the season and they couldn't. They couldn't even get a draw. Mind you this was a team that had about 5 points more than Bayern Munich.

Before Xabi Alonso took over Leverkusen and surprised everyone last season, Dortmund was a strong candidate for the title and could match Munich's strength, but unfortunately Dortmund's management did not focus too much on the trophy, they only sought profit from the sale of their players. and it was proven that they were only a shadow of Munich for the past few seasons without being able to lift the trophy. This season the results will be the same, Dortmund is only a complement above Dortmund now there are Leverkusen and Munich who have been proven. This season's era belongs to Leverkusen and Munich.

[Lida93]

Borrusia Dortmund is mainly for winners, although the team's management have made major mistakes that have made them experienced setbacks in league games, talking about selling players, not just any players but the rare gems that have top talents to drive the team to specific heightened station. This is still early stage to start predicting the club's to win the Bundesliga title because every elite clubs are having some up and down moments. This is Germany and the main clubs are preparing to having consistent performance this season.

It's been a good start, but it's only been two games in the Bundesliga, yes although it could be argued that it's better than Bayer Leverkusen as they've only lost once so far against Leipzig, and I didn't expect Bayer Leverkusen to be beaten either but it was a close game for both with a 3-2 scoreline.
Dortmund won't have any major changes because they are still with the previous coach's colleagues, unless Nuri Sahim can be much more creative than Edin Terzic.

I remember that Dortmund always sold potential players and that's why they couldn't reach the top. lol

To be honest, it is too early to say that Borussia Dortmund is much better than Bayer Leverkusen, only one defeat with Leipzig and Dortmund got a draw with the Bremen team I see it as less than ideal, yes if you assume from looking at the numbers on the standings you can conclude Dortmund is much better than Bayer Leverkusen.

Some people’s saying a word out of a sentence if not how will them make an early prediction against the Leverkusen just because they see that Dortmund have make small movement which their able to manage the 4the position in the table, I think this is just the beginning of the season for those that are making early statements should hold on first; and allow the season to go far so that we knows who are more better pass. But stated that Dortmund are more better than Bayern leverkusen how never believe with, because everyone knows how their performances be even last with they way they remain unbeaten in that last season and even this season they will still be strong sure.

But if anyone is saying that Brussia Dortmund is better than Bayer Leverkusen such a person is absolutely not making a wrong claims. The only arguments you guys are making here in favour of Bayer Leverkusen is their last season's unbeaten campaign which culminated to their winning the Bundlesliga title  whereas Brussia Dortmund has consistently been in a top outstanding form in all seasons for the past one decade both in the Bundlesliga and champions league competition's.  

For this current season we don't know for sure how far Bayer Leverkusen will go in maintaining their performance especially in the champions league and even in the Bundesliga but am quite sure that Brussia Dortmund as usual will make it far than Xabi Alonso and his boys this time in all competition's.

[Palakka]

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Dortmund is one team I can never take seriously again no matter what they do. Even if they top the league with 10 points I do not care. Their inconsistency is on a different level and I can't trust them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt the season before last season when all they needed to win the league was to win Mainz on the final day of the season and they couldn't. They couldn't even get a draw. Mind you this was a team that had about 5 points more than Bayern Munich.

Before Xabi Alonso took over Leverkusen and surprised everyone last season, Dortmund was a strong candidate for the title and could match Munich's strength, but unfortunately Dortmund's management did not focus too much on the trophy, they only sought profit from the sale of their players. and it was proven that they were only a shadow of Munich for the past few seasons without being able to lift the trophy. This season the results will be the same, Dortmund is only a complement above Dortmund now there are Leverkusen and Munich who have been proven. This season's era belongs to Leverkusen and Munich.

So far, we have always hoped that Dortmund can break Bayern Munich dominance in the Bundesliga, and in fact in the 2023 season, they were closer to getting the trophy but inconsistency disturbed them at the end of the season and finally had to give up again due to losing on goal difference from Munich, when hope began to emerge to see Dortmund win last season because Munich experienced poor performance, but it was Leverkusen who we never expected at all to be able to do what Dortmund could not do in the last 10 seasons, Dortmund performance has often experienced inconsistencies during This and often selling star players may be one of the reasons why Dortmund has not been able to compete with Munich all this time, so I think that to be able to challenge for the title in the Bundesliga, of course it is time for Dortmund to stop making Munich stronger by continuing to sell their main players to munich.

[hyudien]

I will say you’re right on this. We only use to know of Dortmund and Bayern Munich and when there’s a match between this two teams, it’s always full of excitement and intriguing moments. Dortmund have really lose their stance in the league and they’ll just have to be more careful not to get worse in the coming years. I see that their performance is kind of averagely good, so I think they can contend for the league title this season if they want to. Selling of good players for business is always their priority, but I think they can only hope for a better season ahead for themselves if they want to and not focus on the business oriented part of the club that’s trying to still their core moments in football.

This season Dortmund is still a team that every opponent must be wary of even though their orientation in business such as selling good players has not stopped at this time. However, considering that Dortmund can always produce other new players to be better, it can at least still give them good hope this season so it would be very reasonable if we put Dortmund in the league title race this season even though teams like Leverkusen must also be an important consideration for Bayern Munich and Dortmund this season.

No one can underestimate Borussia Dortmund, because as you said even though they prioritize business, they can still play well and can show that they will always be able to compete at the top even though they failed to become champions. There are always new young players coming who can make their game like usual even though they have sold some potential young players for money. I have to appreciate that they are one of the teams that are successful in creating or finding very potential young players. Although they are not the ones who enjoy the results, it cannot be denied that they are the ones who can carefully find the potential of a player. This is thanks to the astuteness of the talent scout team they have. I am actually looking forward to the new names that they will find next.

[Swordsoffreedom]

No one can underestimate Borussia Dortmund, because as you said even though they prioritize business, they can still play well and can show that they will always be able to compete at the top even though they failed to become champions. There are always new young players coming who can make their game like usual even though they have sold some potential young players for money. I have to appreciate that they are one of the teams that are successful in creating or finding very potential young players. Although they are not the ones who enjoy the results, it cannot be denied that they are the ones who can carefully find the potential of a player. This is thanks to the astuteness of the talent scout team they have. I am actually looking forward to the new names that they will find next.

There is no way to underestimate this Dortmund team. Renowned in the Bundesliga is Dortmund. This team may not contend for the title. Still they have a strong squad. And often Dortmund's players surprise us by performing well against the big teams.

Dortmund management's main goal is to find talented players and sell them at high prices. And they make money almost every season by selling players. And that's why Dortmund don't compete for the title. They make money by selling their squad's best players.

Dortmund would not have sold the best player in their squad if their goal was to win the title. If players like Haaland, Bellingham and Lewandowski were playing together in the Dortmund jersey, this squad could challenge any big team.

[MAAManda]

The picture below the odds movement for Munich vs Zagreb. It's looking stable.



The huge gap in odds from either of club tells Bayern Munich most likely to win the game easily. I think it makes sense. They're unbeaten in their last five home games. They're facing a weak team, Zagreb.

And i see Zagreb has no chance to win against Bayern Munich. Their record is 3 wins, 1 loss, and 1 draw. It's not bad. But, those stats don't convince me they can beat Bayern away.

But i think the odds's not worthy enough (too small). And over 2.5 seems pretty good enough to bet in this game.

This is not the right topic to discuss matches, odds for the UCL, we have a separate topic for the UCL, it would be better to stop this discussion and shift focus to just discussing the Bundesliga. BTW, can you provide a reference link for that odds movement? I'm interested in that, would be good for an additional analysis tool.

[Frankolala]

This season Borussia Dortmund has not performed badly. They have won one game and drew one in two games. They are even better than Bayer Leverkusen which has just three points in two games. They have a new coach, Nuri Sahin, who is not new to the Bundesliga, having worked as an assistant coach in Dortmund before he was appointed head coach. Four points from two games is not that bad, and hopefully, they will improve after the international break.

Borrusia Dortmund is mainly for winners, although the team's management have made major mistakes that have made them experienced setbacks in league games, talking about selling players, not just any players but the rare gems that have top talents to drive the team to specific heightened station. This is still early stage to start predicting the club's to win the Bundesliga title because every elite clubs are having some up and down moments. This is Germany and the main clubs are preparing to having consistent performance this season.

Borussia Dortmund is one of the strongest teams in Germany. They are one of the strong candidates for the championship again this year. I think they are using the players in the best way to be a better team. It is too early to comment on this season because we are still at the beginning of the league but I am sure they will be one of the candidates for the championship again.

For Dortmund to reach the finals last season in UCL, it was a great achievement for ghem and this also shows that they are a very stong team in Bundesliga even though they find it difficult go win the league. I am not surprised at their current performance and it shows that they might do better in Bundesliga this season than last season.

The coach is a good one and he has tried to keep the club's consistency which is a good start for them this season because some clubs are having challenges this new season to be in form.

[Velvet78]

Dortmund prioritizes making as much profit as possible from their signings. That's true. However this doesn't mean that they just don't care about Bundesliga title at the same time. They are trying their best with the squad they have. You know how Edin Terzic missed the chance to win the Bundesliga title two seasons ago. Literally in the last game of the season...  



Now we will see what Nuri Şahin will do about it. It isn't an easy task against teams like Bayern Munich and Leverkusen. But not an impossible one at the same time. If Nuri Şahin builds a good chemistry with the players then why not?  

[Ndabagi01]

I was not expecting to see this but it seems the situation is getting better for Bayern Munich since they started working with Kompney and they are were performing well enough so far during the game we saw from this team. Bayern Munich's performance against Freiburg was very well and this made me hope to see even better results from this team in the next games however playing against a team like Freiburg won't be the same as playing against stronger teams in the Champions League at all.
 

Expectations on Vincent Kompany that he may not do well as the new coach of Bayern Munich is already turning to false and already proven a lot of people wrong to have thought of that even when they haven’t seen him managed the team yet. So far so good since the beginning of the season for Bayern Munich and I am very optimistic that they’ll do better in the coming days when they resume the league matches. The champions league competition that is yet to start is another league that a lot of people are waiting to see start and see how Bayern Munich will perform there. I hope they can prove themselves worthy as they’ve done in the Bundesliga in the champions league too when it resumes.