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December 02, 2016, 08:14:19 AM |
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Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.
The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .
Sure, it would break the chain. The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes. Apart from this, it has been proven that legalization and regulation lowers the level of drug addiction. For example, in Portugal, the number of drug users declined after the government legalized all sort of drugs in 2001. You can also have the dutch system, making it legal to sell drugs but illegal to produce. Fantastic system, every country should try....
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December 02, 2016, 08:17:21 AM |
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Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.
The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .
Sure, it would break the chain. The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes. Apart from this, it has been proven that legalization and regulation lowers the level of drug addiction. For example, in Portugal, the number of drug users declined after the government legalized all sort of drugs in 2001. You can also have the dutch system, making it legal to sell drugs but illegal to produce. Fantastic system, every country should try.... But here in my country the new government fight to kill drugs in our country because he do not like drugs, and i think that is not good to make drugs legal in one place because drugs can not bring us good if we used it our life will wreck because it is addictive thing.
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December 02, 2016, 11:07:59 AM |
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For me this is impossible to used by buying bitcoin because most of the addict in drugs or users are wanting to buy drugs personally they do not want to send their money first to the people did not know to buy drugs.
Hm it seems like you do not know anything about illegal activities which relate to Bitcoin. There are many drug sellers use bitcoin in order to hide their identity. On deepweb and darknet, you can easily find a site which sell drug and they only choose Bitcoin for payment method. Yes, it is the fact that some users from darknet are using bitcoin for their illegal activities and that’s the matter of worry for us. We should find some solution for this issue because ultimately it is damaging the image and goodwill of bitcoin. Governments will have concrete reason to impose ban of the whole bitcoin in their territories so we shouldn’t stay refrain from such activities and must find some practical solution for such issues. They are doing it because they can and bitcoin is a great currency for that as it's anonymous, we can't control them but they help us anyway. and if this happen for over and over a time, then i think the government will not give their permission to allowing people to use bitcoin because the government will be thinking that if they give their permission to approving for using bitcoin then it means they give legality for buying and selling drugs in deepweb and darknet and it is really important to us to think this and solve this because it is related with bitcoin itself in the future. Governments always seek for control and be supreme authority so as far as the things are in their control, they will stay standby but once they find that bitcoin or alternate crypto currencies are being used for illegal purpose then they will have a strong reason to support their decision to ban bitcoin (and altcoins) so I think we should not let governments to take any action against us.
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December 02, 2016, 09:00:33 PM |
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Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.
The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .
Sure, it would break the chain. The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes. Apart from this, it has been proven that legalization and regulation lowers the level of drug addiction. For example, in Portugal, the number of drug users declined after the government legalized all sort of drugs in 2001. I do believe if all countries does follow Portugal, legalizing drugs, will have the same result, and maybe can prevent the abuse of those. I dont believe people will use bitcoin just for the purpose to buy drugs, in the general even with all the beneficts around bitcoin, i would say its a waste of money using for those purpose. Its only advantage to those which does sell the drugs and people addicted to them.
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December 02, 2016, 09:14:04 PM |
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Who said anonymousity is not there in the bitcoin medium, IF you buy or sell also no one can identify the person. They can find server ip but not the person's one. But even I do not think people are selling and buying drugs with bitcoins
Don't be so sure about it. The TOR browser works by relaying the transmission from one node to another. If the starting node is compromised, then the law enforcement agencies will be able to obtain your real IP. Some say that this is how Ross Ulbricht was caught. I read somewhere that his email that got compromised lead to him being busted and arrested, but it could be a wrongly instructed article writer. Either way, people fully relying on the privacy that the tor nodes are offering them, are simply dumb, or they just take the risk while knowing that when things go wrong, they go wrong horribly. Literally nothing can be trusted as even something as the tor network that is being seen as a safe platform to do whatever they want on it, can land you in the hands of the FBI.
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December 02, 2016, 09:33:46 PM |
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Mr. druggy you are at wrong place because here we don't use drugs never buy with bitcoin or fiat, it seems you are drunk while making this post ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Haha seems everyone is going to say "no we don't buy drugs with bitcoin and never did". What a liers! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 02, 2016, 10:35:32 PM |
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Who said anonymousity is not there in the bitcoin medium, IF you buy or sell also no one can identify the person. They can find server ip but not the person's one. But even I do not think people are selling and buying drugs with bitcoins
Don't be so sure about it. The TOR browser works by relaying the transmission from one node to another. If the starting node is compromised, then the law enforcement agencies will be able to obtain your real IP. Some say that this is how Ross Ulbricht was caught. I read somewhere that his email that got compromised lead to him being busted and arrested, but it could be a wrongly instructed article writer. Either way, people fully relying on the privacy that the tor nodes are offering them, are simply dumb, or they just take the risk while knowing that when things go wrong, they go wrong horribly. Literally nothing can be trusted as even something as the tor network that is being seen as a safe platform to do whatever they want on it, can land you in the hands of the FBI. There was a number of things that lead to his capture. One was that he needed help with his site's code and carelessly posted it outside of the dark web, which allowed the authorities to track him down. @xIIImaL, You need to read some news from time to time. People are not only using Bitcoin to buy drugs but also weapons, financing terrorism and even hiring hitmen.
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December 02, 2016, 10:53:36 PM |
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Who said anonymousity is not there in the bitcoin medium, IF you buy or sell also no one can identify the person. They can find server ip but not the person's one. But even I do not think people are selling and buying drugs with bitcoins
Don't be so sure about it. The TOR browser works by relaying the transmission from one node to another. If the starting node is compromised, then the law enforcement agencies will be able to obtain your real IP. Some say that this is how Ross Ulbricht was caught. I read somewhere that his email that got compromised lead to him being busted and arrested, but it could be a wrongly instructed article writer. Either way, people fully relying on the privacy that the tor nodes are offering them, are simply dumb, or they just take the risk while knowing that when things go wrong, they go wrong horribly. Literally nothing can be trusted as even something as the tor network that is being seen as a safe platform to do whatever they want on it, can land you in the hands of the FBI. There was a number of things that lead to his capture. One was that he needed help with his site's code and carelessly posted it outside of the dark web, which allowed the authorities to track him down. @xIIImaL, You need to read some news from time to time. People are not only using Bitcoin to buy drugs but also weapons, financing terrorism and even hiring hitmen. In dark web or market places not all are using bitcoin to give payment or transaction there are many online payment processor online that also keep anonymous or you can fake your identity. They are just using bitcoin because it is not so hassle to use and you can just use the bitcoin mixer to be more anonymous.. FBI is always in tor network and i think they are always study how to get caught those illegal activities inside the darkweb.
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December 02, 2016, 11:01:08 PM |
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Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.
The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .
Sure, it would break the chain. The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes. Yeah but you are missing the point. The governments don't want to stop drugs. They don't want to stop people from doing drugs. The "war on drugs" is big business. Police get to buy cars, guns, bullet-proof vests. Judges and lawyers get paid to take the cases to court. Private companies get paid to build the jails, house the prisoners and give kickbacks to the state. The "war" will never end. Just like the "war on terror".
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December 03, 2016, 03:16:09 AM |
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Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.
The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .
Sure, it would break the chain. The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes. Yeah but you are missing the point. The governments don't want to stop drugs. They don't want to stop people from doing drugs. The "war on drugs" is big business. Police get to buy cars, guns, bullet-proof vests. Judges and lawyers get paid to take the cases to court. Private companies get paid to build the jails, house the prisoners and give kickbacks to the state. The "war" will never end. Just like the "war on terror". It depends on your government. There are some that don't care about drug abusers and just let them do whatever they want. It's almost as if saying, "It's their body and they're the one responsible if anything bad happens to them." There's also some that banned drugs and then pretend that they're doing something about it but they only raid the ones that have big business in selling/buying drugs. There are also some that are really active that raids even small time drug sellers. Nonetheless, I really think the control in drugs depends on the society and not on the government. If people would report the drug users they know, then the police would surely do action. Some people even when they know drug users, they don't report it because they're friends with them or they're family. Let's not put all the blame to the government while you're just sitting there in front of your computer doing nothing about the said problem.
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December 03, 2016, 03:31:14 AM |
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You can simply buy drugs these days with these online markets, the deep web is really full of it so that is an easy task in my eyes.
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December 03, 2016, 03:37:22 AM |
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Its done a lot and I think that its bad, you should not do it online and the fact is that there are a lot of feds on this websites so I think that is pretty sick, you should really not try it.
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December 03, 2016, 03:44:18 AM |
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Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.
The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .
Sure, it would break the chain. The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes. Yeah but you are missing the point. The governments don't want to stop drugs. They don't want to stop people from doing drugs. The "war on drugs" is big business. Police get to buy cars, guns, bullet-proof vests. Judges and lawyers get paid to take the cases to court. Private companies get paid to build the jails, house the prisoners and give kickbacks to the state. The "war" will never end. Just like the "war on terror". It depends on your government. There are some that don't care about drug abusers and just let them do whatever they want. It's almost as if saying, "It's their body and they're the one responsible if anything bad happens to them." There's also some that banned drugs and then pretend that they're doing something about it but they only raid the ones that have big business in selling/buying drugs. There are also some that are really active that raids even small time drug sellers. Nonetheless, I really think the control in drugs depends on the society and not on the government. If people would report the drug users they know, then the police would surely do action. Some people even when they know drug users, they don't report it because they're friends with them or they're family. Let's not put all the blame to the government while you're just sitting there in front of your computer doing nothing about the said problem. There are also countries with great health insurance that would never let harmful drugs in because in the end it would just cost them more to fix you once you're all screwed up and dying from an OD on some crazy drug!
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December 03, 2016, 04:03:34 AM |
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It is possible to buy drugs with bitcoin. Most people do that in deepweb. They use bitcoin to buy some illegal drugs. And sellers also accepts it as payment because of its anonymous transactions. Not just drugs but other things also like guns or hiring some killer to kill someone.
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December 03, 2016, 05:06:52 AM |
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You can simply buy drugs these days with these online markets, the deep web is really full of it so that is an easy task in my eyes.
I know and the government is already aware of that, you can buy drugs but the danger is always with you, when you get caught your life is over because you are going to spend your life in jail, unless the law in your country is not that strict but if it's very strict you will regret that for the rest of your life.
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December 03, 2016, 05:22:12 AM |
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Its done a lot and I think that its bad, you should not do it online and the fact is that there are a lot of feds on this websites so I think that is pretty sick, you should really not try it.
Higher risk means more money earned. That is a thing with forbidding and banning something, people who sell I wish more money for their product cause they risk a lot. In drug war just innocent people get hurt, and little people who like to use drugs. On one side police that arrests and beat you, and on other cartel that sell expensive drugs. Everything should be legal and natural.
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December 03, 2016, 06:51:44 AM |
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Its done a lot and I think that its bad, you should not do it online and the fact is that there are a lot of feds on this websites so I think that is pretty sick, you should really not try it.
Higher risk means more money earned. That is a thing with forbidding and banning something, people who sell I wish more money for their product cause they risk a lot. In drug war just innocent people get hurt, and little people who like to use drugs. On one side police that arrests and beat you, and on other cartel that sell expensive drugs. Everything should be legal and natural. True, and bitcoin is a higher risk investment and we are investment hoping for a great return. But when it comes to buying drugs, I cannot take bigger risk because the consequences will be hard if caught doing illegal activities.
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December 03, 2016, 03:19:51 PM |
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No, I never bought drugs with bitcoin and I will never do such thing like that. Buying drugs with bitcoin is not just worth it. Drug would just cause harmful effects on your body and it will just ruin your life if you get yourself addicted to it. Rather than buying drugs, I would just use my bitcoin on buying some stuffs that I need in my life or maybe foods.
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December 03, 2016, 03:21:35 PM |
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Buying mushrooms regulary on SR ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 03, 2016, 04:18:23 PM |
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Anyone bought drugs with bitcoin and what are you thought on the subject ?
i know i have used bitcoin to buy psilocybe cubensis thank you bitcoin i cold have not done this without you now i can trip watching corry & eastenders in the evening its such a sight.
requirement buying is have a money , bitcoin is money so i think can ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) but i do not try it
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