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December 31, 2016, 09:12:34 AM
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I guess some people who never sought information about bitcoin, will have heard or read it. Well, I've visited darkweb for being so curious, and there are so many markets that sell drugs by using BTC. Well, I think it is normal when using bitcoin, because then they will never be found.

If you take the right precautions, then it's peanuts to keep yourself hidden from the public. But the thing is that some dealers and other people take the anonymity aspect of Bitcoin too serious. They make the mistake to directly use these "dirty coins" to send them to the exchange they are verified at with all their personal information. That's where things go wrong. It sounds stupid and dumb, I know, but these things happen as people just assume Bitcoin will help keep their identity hidden for the outside world. Something simple as running their coins through a mixer doesn't come up in their minds....
Even though they directly deposit their dirty coins on exchanges its still hardly to trace on where those coins came from and if you tend to investigate you will really hardly detect and trace it because we all know that there are thousands of transactions do happen on darknet and you will hardly to locate on where those coins came from.

That is incorrect. If someone would truly investigate a person's transaction they would relatively find out who that person is in the end. Anonymity is truly a difficult matter to discuss, whether it is true or not. Remember Ross Ulbricht? He's transactions were all traced by the FBI. So everybody can be found out. Especially when people try to cash out their coins.

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December 31, 2016, 09:15:15 AM
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I guess some people who never sought information about bitcoin, will have heard or read it. Well, I've visited darkweb for being so curious, and there are so many markets that sell drugs by using BTC. Well, I think it is normal when using bitcoin, because then they will never be found.

If you take the right precautions, then it's peanuts to keep yourself hidden from the public. But the thing is that some dealers and other people take the anonymity aspect of Bitcoin too serious. They make the mistake to directly use these "dirty coins" to send them to the exchange they are verified at with all their personal information. That's where things go wrong. It sounds stupid and dumb, I know, but these things happen as people just assume Bitcoin will help keep their identity hidden for the outside world. Something simple as running their coins through a mixer doesn't come up in their minds....
Even though they directly deposit their dirty coins on exchanges its still hardly to trace on where those coins came from and if you tend to investigate you will really hardly detect and trace it because we all know that there are thousands of transactions do happen on darknet and you will hardly to locate on where those coins came from.

That is incorrect. If someone would truly investigate a person's transaction they would relatively find out who that person is in the end. Anonymity is truly a difficult matter to discuss, whether it is true or not. Remember Ross Ulbricht? He's transactions were all traced by the FBI. So everybody can be found out. Especially when people try to cash out their coins.

The hardest part of being a rich criminal is to ultimately launder the dirty funds they have earned. Most of the time criminals get caught not at the act of committing the crime but after they have gotten the money and tried to cash it out. What's funny is that, what do you do with riches beyond your imagination when you can't even spend it?

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December 31, 2016, 09:25:26 AM
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I guess some people who never sought information about bitcoin, will have heard or read it. Well, I've visited darkweb for being so curious, and there are so many markets that sell drugs by using BTC. Well, I think it is normal when using bitcoin, because then they will never be found.

If you take the right precautions, then it's peanuts to keep yourself hidden from the public. But the thing is that some dealers and other people take the anonymity aspect of Bitcoin too serious. They make the mistake to directly use these "dirty coins" to send them to the exchange they are verified at with all their personal information. That's where things go wrong. It sounds stupid and dumb, I know, but these things happen as people just assume Bitcoin will help keep their identity hidden for the outside world. Something simple as running their coins through a mixer doesn't come up in their minds....
Even though they directly deposit their dirty coins on exchanges its still hardly to trace on where those coins came from and if you tend to investigate you will really hardly detect and trace it because we all know that there are thousands of transactions do happen on darknet and you will hardly to locate on where those coins came from.

That is incorrect. If someone would truly investigate a person's transaction they would relatively find out who that person is in the end. Anonymity is truly a difficult matter to discuss, whether it is true or not. Remember Ross Ulbricht? He's transactions were all traced by the FBI. So everybody can be found out. Especially when people try to cash out their coins.

The hardest part of being a rich criminal is to ultimately launder the dirty funds they have earned. Most of the time criminals get caught not at the act of committing the crime but after they have gotten the money and tried to cash it out. What's funny is that, what do you do with riches beyond your imagination when you can't even spend it?
In direct speaking they are soo much dumb why they didn't use coin mixers from the very first time since they know that those money came from illegal and you do have a point on tracing them out when someone would really be serious on following its transactions.Thats why those coin mixers are created for.

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December 31, 2016, 09:37:56 AM
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I think this is an action that is not useful. when we can use bitcoin for more positive purposes.
I assume that buying drugs with bitcoin is a very stupid thing. because bitcoin is created for something much more useful.



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December 31, 2016, 09:43:49 AM
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Of course this is a crime, if we know we must reporter to police, I sure this is make the government to banned bitcoin.
Lol I think it would be very difficult to keep track of transactions related to illegal things such as drugs, because there are millions of transactions are made and there is no description for each transaction, I think everyone is free to do anything with bitcoin

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December 31, 2016, 09:52:26 AM
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Why specifically with Bitcoin when you can buy with any valuable.I never bought any drug but the title gave me other impression.There all already so many negative news about usage of bitcoin for.We need to promote it as exemplary to encourage the people with positive news than drugs.
Why use bitcoin to buy drugs instead of real money?
The answer is simple because using bitcoin is totally anonymous so when you pay for something it does not require you to enter any personal data or id card so even a 10 year od kid can use bitcoin and buy drugs without getting caught.

Its still more anonymous buying with cash in hand vs any other method.  Crypto + tor just makes tiny more risk but you are opened to a world market vs street dealer. 






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December 31, 2016, 09:54:19 AM
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We need to protect bitcoin from any drugs
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December 31, 2016, 10:08:41 AM
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I guess some people who never sought information about bitcoin, will have heard or read it. Well, I've visited darkweb for being so curious, and there are so many markets that sell drugs by using BTC. Well, I think it is normal when using bitcoin, because then they will never be found.

If you take the right precautions, then it's peanuts to keep yourself hidden from the public. But the thing is that some dealers and other people take the anonymity aspect of Bitcoin too serious. They make the mistake to directly use these "dirty coins" to send them to the exchange they are verified at with all their personal information. That's where things go wrong. It sounds stupid and dumb, I know, but these things happen as people just assume Bitcoin will help keep their identity hidden for the outside world. Something simple as running their coins through a mixer doesn't come up in their minds....
Even though they directly deposit their dirty coins on exchanges its still hardly to trace on where those coins came from and if you tend to investigate you will really hardly detect and trace it because we all know that there are thousands of transactions do happen on darknet and you will hardly to locate on where those coins came from.

That is incorrect. If someone would truly investigate a person's transaction they would relatively find out who that person is in the end. Anonymity is truly a difficult matter to discuss, whether it is true or not. Remember Ross Ulbricht? He's transactions were all traced by the FBI. So everybody can be found out. Especially when people try to cash out their coins.

The hardest part of being a rich criminal is to ultimately launder the dirty funds they have earned. Most of the time criminals get caught not at the act of committing the crime but after they have gotten the money and tried to cash it out. What's funny is that, what do you do with riches beyond your imagination when you can't even spend it?
In direct speaking they are soo much dumb why they didn't use coin mixers from the very first time since they know that those money came from illegal and you do have a point on tracing them out when someone would really be serious on following its transactions.Thats why those coin mixers are created for.

What makes you think that coin mixers are a fool proof way to clean your coins? Think about it. For example you have around 10,000 Bitcoins in your dirty addresses (from selling drugs and shit), then you mix it at a coin mixer then release it to a clean new bitcoin address. How the hell would you still use that 10,000 bitcoins in the real world? Do you think the government would just ignore that you just suddenly had $10,000,000 to spend on luxurious stuff? No. They will investigate the crap out of you.

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December 31, 2016, 10:30:08 AM
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Why specifically with Bitcoin when you can buy with any valuable.I never bought any drug but the title gave me other impression.There all already so many negative news about usage of bitcoin for.We need to promote it as exemplary to encourage the people with positive news than drugs.
Why use bitcoin to buy drugs instead of real money?
The answer is simple because using bitcoin is totally anonymous so when you pay for something it does not require you to enter any personal data or id card so even a 10 year od kid can use bitcoin and buy drugs without getting caught.

Its still more anonymous buying with cash in hand vs any other method.  Crypto + tor just makes tiny more risk but you are opened to a world market vs street dealer. 

Yeah, but it has the highest risk due the high anonymous transaction and tracking of the dealer with whom we were in connection to make a trading. Possibly this is highly insecure, very few trusted traders were found in the darknet market. Drugs were available for bitcoin from the early days of bitcoin's use for several needs.

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December 31, 2016, 03:55:45 PM
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Drugs are bought with Bitcoins just like any other currency. But what makes a huge difference is, Bitcoins are used largely for buying drugs. Its the main criticism against bitcoins. I dont know how buying drugs using bitcoins can be controlled.
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December 31, 2016, 09:23:14 PM
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I think this is an action that is not useful. when we can use bitcoin for more positive purposes.
I assume that buying drugs with bitcoin is a very stupid thing. because bitcoin is created for something much more useful.
actually bitcoin is like a fiat currency which can be used by both good and bad people at the same time and there is no blame to bitcoin, but still we can expect that bitcoin will be used for good activities only, and it will be more helpful for those who like online trading and business.
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Drugs are bought with Bitcoins just like any other currency. But what makes a huge difference is, Bitcoins are used largely for buying drugs. Its the main criticism against bitcoins. I dont know how buying drugs using bitcoins can be controlled.
No one can prevent people to buy drug using bitcoin, becouse bitcoin is in individual control. But buy drugs is such as useless thing. There is no profit from kill our self using drugs, we better to do trade.


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January 01, 2017, 01:58:17 AM
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Drugs are bought with Bitcoins just like any other currency. But what makes a huge difference is, Bitcoins are used largely for buying drugs. Its the main criticism against bitcoins. I dont know how buying drugs using bitcoins can be controlled.
No one can prevent people to buy drug using bitcoin, becouse bitcoin is in individual control. But buy drugs is such as useless thing. There is no profit from kill our self using drugs, we better to do trade.

You are so wrong in so many levels. The drugs trade in the dark markets is the most prosperous marketplace that Bitcoin has ever since. If you say it is useless, try saying that to the drug vendors and all the buyers who like to sell and purchase drugs the safe way and away from going to the bad neighborhoods. Trading brings no organic growth to Bitcoin. All it brings is speculative value.

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January 01, 2017, 02:05:58 AM
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Anyone bought drugs with bitcoin and what are you thought on the subject ?
If you couldn't buy drugs with bitcoin, what value it would have? Because everything that have value can be exchanged for drugs, easier or harder doesn't matter.
Bitcoin is store of value first, then money so you can do whatever u want with it, even buy drugs or tooth brush.

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January 01, 2017, 03:17:38 AM
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Anyone bought drugs with bitcoin and what are you thought on the subject ?
If you couldn't buy drugs with bitcoin, what value it would have? Because everything that have value can be exchanged for drugs, easier or harder doesn't matter.
Bitcoin is store of value first, then money so you can do whatever u want with it, even buy drugs or tooth brush.
What value? I'd say it's up to the seller to set his price first.

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January 01, 2017, 05:00:31 AM
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I think this is an action that is not useful. when we can use bitcoin for more positive purposes.
I assume that buying drugs with bitcoin is a very stupid thing. because bitcoin is created for something much more useful.
it was a special thing of bitcoin anonymous. people do not look so well as the purpose of their bitcoin transactions, whatever is said by outsiders, they just make the image bitcoin be ugly.



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January 01, 2017, 07:58:14 AM
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Drugs are bought with Bitcoins just like any other currency. But what makes a huge difference is, Bitcoins are used largely for buying drugs. Its the main criticism against bitcoins. I dont know how buying drugs using bitcoins can be controlled.
No one can prevent people to buy drug using bitcoin, becouse bitcoin is in individual control. But buy drugs is such as useless thing. There is no profit from kill our self using drugs, we better to do trade.
there is no benefit from the transaction of drugs by using bitcoin. it will only end in failure. but, we can not rule out, that bitcoin is always used as a tool to deal drugs. Well, there are many people who say it is better to trade, but I think people are addicted to drugs would not say that.

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January 01, 2017, 10:09:25 AM
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Drugs are bought with Bitcoins just like any other currency. But what makes a huge difference is, Bitcoins are used largely for buying drugs. Its the main criticism against bitcoins. I dont know how buying drugs using bitcoins can be controlled.
And I heard that people in darknet are now starting to use Monero as an alternate to pay things there other than bitcoin which as people said Monero have the advantages on its anonymity which is not pseudo-anonymous unlike bitcoin and can't be traced address to address when making a payment. So far that's what I've learnt recently. Probably in the future bitcoin will not be used in darknet anymore who knows?

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January 01, 2017, 10:39:46 AM
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Anyone bought drugs with bitcoin and what are you thought on the subject ?
If you couldn't buy drugs with bitcoin, what value it would have? Because everything that have value can be exchanged for drugs, easier or harder doesn't matter.
Bitcoin is store of value first, then money so you can do whatever u want with it, even buy drugs or tooth brush.
Yes,Absolutely correct.Bitcoin is digital cryptocurrency which based on internet also give us a opportunity to buy anything on online remains easy.You can buy whatever you want on the Internet using this one and i thing it's a lot safer.There are many online markets where you can buy drugs through digital currency bitcoin.
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January 01, 2017, 10:58:43 AM
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Drugs are bought with Bitcoins just like any other currency. But what makes a huge difference is, Bitcoins are used largely for buying drugs. Its the main criticism against bitcoins. I dont know how buying drugs using bitcoins can be controlled.

This is quite irritating. Do you have any proof for your wild claim? IMO, less than 0.01% of the bitcoins are used to buy drugs. Many of the dark-markets are no longer active and those which are operational right now have reported declining revenues.

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