Avalon 6 Vs Antminer S7, which one you will choose?

[Amph]

The S7 is not selling well because Bitmain priced it high enough to make RoI on it VERY VERY IFFY even at low electric cost (5c and under / kwh).

 If the spec that have been "published" so far on a new Avalon unit are correct, it needs to beat price/TH vs the S7 to have a prayer of selling significantly, at it's even LESS efficient (though close) and will have even less probability of achieving RoI than the S7 if it's price isn't less/TH.

BTC mining is Fast moving from the West to the East just because of energy pricing

 There are places in "the West" that can match Chinese energy pricing - there are quite a few other factors involved in the strength of Bitcoin mining in China.

i think the s7 is more meant to be used for a short time and sold, again few week month later, so you can cut the long roi, more than the other miners

while taking advantage of its efficiency, if you can selle later, there is no need to worry about the initial price invested

[notlist3d]

The S7 is not selling well because Bitmain priced it high enough to make RoI on it VERY VERY IFFY even at low electric cost (5c and under / kwh).

 If the spec that have been "published" so far on a new Avalon unit are correct, it needs to beat price/TH vs the S7 to have a prayer of selling significantly, at it's even LESS efficient (though close) and will have even less probability of achieving RoI than the S7 if it's price isn't less/TH.

BTC mining is Fast moving from the West to the East just because of energy pricing

 There are places in "the West" that can match Chinese energy pricing - there are quite a few other factors involved in the strength of Bitcoin mining in China.

i think the s7 is more meant to be used for a short time and sold, again few week month later, so you can cut the long roi, more than the other miners

while taking advantage of its efficiency, if you can selle later, there is no need to worry about the initial price invested

I think most miners at this point are to be sold at later date.  I figure each miner has about 3 homes on modern miners.

1st sale goes to the one with high electricity and early adopter
2nd sale goes to someone with mid electricity, they normally buy used gear.
3rd sale goes to someone with "free" electricity it is obsolete for most others at this point.

I could be nuts but that is how I see miners lifes at this point I dont see it being one owner besides big data center which will be one owner equipment.

[philipma1957]

The S7 is not selling well because Bitmain priced it high enough to make RoI on it VERY VERY IFFY even at low electric cost (5c and under / kwh).

 If the spec that have been "published" so far on a new Avalon unit are correct, it needs to beat price/TH vs the S7 to have a prayer of selling significantly, at it's even LESS efficient (though close) and will have even less probability of achieving RoI than the S7 if it's price isn't less/TH.

BTC mining is Fast moving from the West to the East just because of energy pricing

 There are places in "the West" that can match Chinese energy pricing - there are quite a few other factors involved in the strength of Bitcoin mining in China.

i think the s7 is more meant to be used for a short time and sold, again few week month later, so you can cut the long roi, more than the other miners

while taking advantage of its efficiency, if you can selle later, there is no need to worry about the initial price invested

I think most miners at this point are to be sold at later date.  I figure each miner has about 3 homes on modern miners.

1st sale goes to the one with high electricity and early adopter
2nd sale goes to someone with mid electricity, they normally buy used gear.
3rd sale goes to someone with "free" electricity it is obsolete for most others at this point.

I could be nuts but that is how I see miners lifes at this point I dont see it being one owner besides big data center which will be one owner equipment.

this pattern has emerged.

If I buy to mine in my house it has to be the most efficient possible.  My power costs are high.
I have two places with very low power costs.
One is 2 cents and the other is 7.8 cents.

one spot can do 1500 watts must be quiet.
second spot can do 6000 watts must be quiet.

my house can do 6000 watts and in the garage so it can be loud.

I will buy and review the avalon 6  even if it is 25% to 50% more then the s-7  as it should be quiet.

It will end up in the 2 cent spot. So it can mine for a real long time and still make money.

[carlosmnk]

Hi, i've found this links:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6
This one talks about the testing of the Avalon 6...

http://build.canaan-creative.com:8080/~mikeqin/avalon6/
This one is from canaan-creative.com, and talk about the upgrade testing of the Avalon 6, so it seem it will arrive soon... 

[notlist3d]

Hi, i've found this links:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6
This one talks about the testing of the Avalon 6...

http://build.canaan-creative.com:8080/~mikeqin/avalon6/
This one is from canaan-creative.com, and talk about the upgrade testing of the Avalon 6, so it seem it will arrive soon... 

Hmmm so does it require a pi2 instead of a regular Pi B or are they just adding support for the Pi2 as well?

They cost almost the same so it might work on both and they go Pi2 as you get more bang for your buck.  But I have a Pi B runnning a set of 3 Avalon 4.1's with no issues.

So I hope they go Pi 2 just as it's maybe 5 dollar difference for like 4x speed.  So makes a lot of sense.

[itop_james]

Finally , Avalon get the Avalon6 spec in public officially .



Avalon6 Specification
Hash rate：   　3.65T±10%
Power at wall   1100W（power efficiency 90%）。
Quantity of chip   80
Power connector   4x 6PIN，you need to connect all 4 connectors when running
Cooling fan   12038, current min: 1.6A ,Max:2.8A
Max speed: 3800RPM
Temperature   Max Temperature of intake :38℃
Controller   Raspberry PI（version 1，B，B+），。
Each Raspberry PI can control 60 units
AUC   max 6 units can be connected in series with each AUC
Protection   The machine will not start when the fan is damaged 。
Dimension   136×150×334mm
Weight   4.8kg
INGRESS PROTECTION   IP20
Power supply   1200W 80 plus gold power supply recommended
Voltage:  min:11.7V   max: 12.2V

[YuginKadoya]

Finally , Avalon get the Avalon6 spec in public officially .



Avalon6 Specification
Hash rate：   　3.65T±10%
Power at wall   1100W（power efficiency 90%）。
Quantity of chip   80
Power connector   4x 6PIN，you need to connect all 4 connectors when running
Cooling fan   12038, current min: 1.6A ,Max:2.8A
Max speed: 3800RPM or above
Temperature   Max Temperature of intake :38℃
Controller   Raspberry PI（version 1，B，B+），。
Each Raspberry PI can control 60 units
AUC   max 6 units can be connected in series with each AUC
Protection   The machine will not start when the fan is damaged 。
Dimension   136×150×334mm
Weight   4.8kg
INGRESS PROTECTION   IP20
Power supply   1200W golden power supply recommended
Voltage:  min:11.7V   max: 12.2V

WOW! it's finally here, the long wait is finally over, would love to try this out, I think it's gonna be great, thanks for sharing, hope it really is power efficient.

[carlosmnk]

It is less eficient than spected, "only" 0.30j/ghs, but, it can be underclocked to be more eficient?

[QuintLeo]

Lower efficiency than the Antminer S7 or the announced 3TH Lketc/BW unit, though close.
Fan appears to be the same unit or a very close to the same unit as on the S5/S7, so NOT quiet (makes sense though at the given power level and form factor).

 This thing had better be priced lower than either the S7 or the eventual pricing on the Lketc/BW unit if Avalon expects to sell a significant number of them.


 I am NOT fond of the "auto speed" stuff, that's one of my bigger complaints with the Spondoolies SP20 - can't fine tune the thing yourself, you have to tolerate THEIR assumptions on how you want the thing tuned.

 38C max intake temperature - if that's for full hashrate, it's tolerable, but still kinda low. Seems like this unit could use better heat dissipation design work.


 what is a "golden power supply"? Is that supposed to mean a "Gold Efficiency Rated" power supply?

[carlosmnk]

what is a "golden power supply"? Is that supposed to mean a "Gold Efficiency Rated" power supply?

it seems a bad translation from chineese, i think. I read "80 + Gold power supply" 

[notlist3d]

Finally , Avalon get the Avalon6 spec in public officially .

Thanks for sharing.   I'm excited to see a new miner on the market.

Did they release the price?   I really am curious on it.

[adaseb]

It will probably cost as much as an S7 due to the fact that they make low numbers of these miners and don't expect to sell many of them.

[itop_james]

what is a "golden power supply"? Is that supposed to mean a "Gold Efficiency Rated" power supply?

it seems a bad translation from chineese, i think. I read "80 + Gold power supply"  

yes , you are right , that means 80 plus gold certificate power supply, it is corrected now.

[wlefever]

Finally , Avalon get the Avalon6 spec in public officially .



Avalon6 Specification
Hash rate：   　3.65T±10%
Power at wall   1100W（power efficiency 90%）。
Quantity of chip   80
Power connector   4x 6PIN，you need to connect all 4 connectors when running
Cooling fan   12038, current min: 1.6A ,Max:2.8A
Max speed: 3800RPM
Temperature   Max Temperature of intake :38℃
Controller   Raspberry PI（version 1，B，B+），。
Each Raspberry PI can control 60 units
AUC   max 6 units can be connected in series with each AUC
Protection   The machine will not start when the fan is damaged 。
Dimension   136×150×334mm
Weight   4.8kg
INGRESS PROTECTION   IP20
Power supply   1200W 80 plus gold power supply recommended
Voltage:  min:11.7V   max: 12.2V

YES!! Can't wait to get one of these on order.  Fingers crossed for a decent price point with the anticipation of them being sold at least a slight premium.

Edit: Would be great if you could run these off the same controller as the 4.1 as I have 2 already running.

[philipma1957]

It says it can use 11.7 volts.

So if you have a mean well rsp-1500-12 psu and drop volts to 11.7 it will be more effiencent .

I have one concern it uses four pcie cables so under clocking will be very important.

The sp20 did not do well past 250 watts a cable

Most of us ran the gear at 1300 gh to help cables stay cool.

I think this machine is going to run better at 3000 gh using 11.7 volts and hopefully 800 watts.

It also looks louder then the 4.1

[wlefever]

It also looks louder then the 4.1

It looks like they just removed the exterior cover for the fan on the 4.1 to this one to try and reduce weight possibly?  Maybe better air flow to achieve quiter sound?

[Blockhunter]

Finally , Avalon get the Avalon6 spec in public officially .



Avalon6 Specification
Hash rate：   　3.65T±10%
Power at wall   1100W（power efficiency 90%）。
Quantity of chip   80
Power connector   4x 6PIN，you need to connect all 4 connectors when running
Cooling fan   12038, current min: 1.6A ,Max:2.8A
Max speed: 3800RPM
Temperature   Max Temperature of intake :38℃
Controller   Raspberry PI（version 1，B，B+），。
Each Raspberry PI can control 60 units
AUC   max 6 units can be connected in series with each AUC
Protection   The machine will not start when the fan is damaged 。
Dimension   136×150×334mm
Weight   4.8kg
INGRESS PROTECTION   IP20
Power supply   1200W 80 plus gold power supply recommended
Voltage:  min:11.7V   max: 12.2V

YES!! Can't wait to get one of these on order.  Fingers crossed for a decent price point with the anticipation of them being sold at least a slight premium.

Edit: Would be great if you could run these off the same controller as the 4.1 as I have 2 already running.

Super excited on this! Can't wait to see the price, I may have to drop some coin on this one!
I will for sure be getting some of these to play with. Super excited !! 

[valkir]

Finally , Avalon get the Avalon6 spec in public officially .



Avalon6 Specification
Hash rate：   　3.65T±10%
Power at wall   1100W（power efficiency 90%）。
Quantity of chip   80
Power connector   4x 6PIN，you need to connect all 4 connectors when running
Cooling fan   12038, current min: 1.6A ,Max:2.8A
Max speed: 3800RPM
Temperature   Max Temperature of intake :38℃
Controller   Raspberry PI（version 1，B，B+），。
Each Raspberry PI can control 60 units
AUC   max 6 units can be connected in series with each AUC
Protection   The machine will not start when the fan is damaged 。
Dimension   136×150×334mm
Weight   4.8kg
INGRESS PROTECTION   IP20
Power supply   1200W 80 plus gold power supply recommended
Voltage:  min:11.7V   max: 12.2V

Where did you get these ?

Edit: I want one now! 

[notlist3d]

Finally , Avalon get the Avalon6 spec in public officially .



Avalon6 Specification
Hash rate：   　3.65T±10%
Power at wall   1100W（power efficiency 90%）。
Quantity of chip   80
Power connector   4x 6PIN，you need to connect all 4 connectors when running
Cooling fan   12038, current min: 1.6A ,Max:2.8A
Max speed: 3800RPM
Temperature   Max Temperature of intake :38℃
Controller   Raspberry PI（version 1，B，B+），。
Each Raspberry PI can control 60 units
AUC   max 6 units can be connected in series with each AUC
Protection   The machine will not start when the fan is damaged 。
Dimension   136×150×334mm
Weight   4.8kg
INGRESS PROTECTION   IP20
Power supply   1200W 80 plus gold power supply recommended
Voltage:  min:11.7V   max: 12.2V

Where did you get these ?

Edit: I want one now! 

Eventually should be on https://ehash.com/ eventually.  I have to admit Itop has gotten the scoop early a few times at this point, exciting to see a release like this.

I really want to see a price.   I would love to add one ... or more to collection.   The 4.1 I fell for I bought 1.... did a review and loved it and bought 2 more to get the set.   I'm hoping for same feeling on this miner.   I was impressed with the 4.1 running in my bedroom only miner I did this with ever.

But now I have a mining area so noise not an issue.   I hope more info soon.

[VirosaGITS]

Finally , Avalon get the Avalon6 spec in public officially .



Avalon6 Specification
Hash rate：   　3.65T±10%
Power at wall   1100W（power efficiency 90%）。
Quantity of chip   80
Power connector   4x 6PIN，you need to connect all 4 connectors when running
Cooling fan   12038, current min: 1.6A ,Max:2.8A
Max speed: 3800RPM
Temperature   Max Temperature of intake :38℃
Controller   Raspberry PI（version 1，B，B+），。
Each Raspberry PI can control 60 units
AUC   max 6 units can be connected in series with each AUC
Protection   The machine will not start when the fan is damaged 。
Dimension   136×150×334mm
Weight   4.8kg
INGRESS PROTECTION   IP20
Power supply   1200W 80 plus gold power supply recommended
Voltage:  min:11.7V   max: 12.2V

YES!! Can't wait to get one of these on order.  Fingers crossed for a decent price point with the anticipation of them being sold at least a slight premium.

Edit: Would be great if you could run these off the same controller as the 4.1 as I have 2 already running.

Ohhh, these look nice. Better designed than the Bitmains one since all the connectors seem to be in the back, though i don't see an Ethernet port, so i'm guessing they use a external controller?

Still look easy to stack, properly enclosed.

I wonder what the back hex grill is for, however?