IOTA

[zanzibar]

I understand my posts comes off as trollish, but I was expecting a little better communication. I don't get why we need to test Iota in the first place if it's not even really meant for GUI or "humans"  Shouldn't the machine to machine Iota network been tested months ago and deployed?  I just don't really get what were doing at this point?  Also, I know you didn't promise GUI, but how the hell are we supposed to buy, sell, send, Iota if we don't even have a simple GUI available?  At the core, Iota is very light, simple, fast, so I thought a launch around Azure announcement was reasonable, especially since GUI was supposed to be ready before the announcement. It seems like you are putting a lot on the "community" but it's impossible to create a real community pre-launch.

Alright let me clarify once again:

First and foremost, better communication? We got a dedicated forum, dedicated chat, dedicated twitter, dedicated newsletter, dedicated contact email and we still respond to almost all the IOTA threads on BTT and elsewhere. What more communication do you need?
We have also already stated over a month ago that we're officially moving over to http://chat.iotatoken.com and http://forum.iotatoken.com because we don't have time, nor do we want to be on BTT.


IOTA is indeed *primarily* engineered for IoT (though of course it can and is being used for other projects that require a scalable distributed ledger), but that doesn't mean we don't require testing. We're not living in the year 2030+ where programmers have been replaced by super AI's who can produce and debug software on its own yet. This means that humans still have to test the software, we still need engineers to make the IoT devices and create/implement software on said devices. So of course we need testing. IOTA has been tested since January, but the way software is engineered is such that you test simple features first, optimize them and then work your way up, which is what the previous months have gone to. Now we're already at 0.9.4 and close to launch, we're testing full features and have made some huge optimizations in the last month.
As for GUI, why would you need the Graphical part to test? Presumably you are an IoT/Ledger developer (since you bought IoT/Ledger software), so you shouldn't even need a UI, but you do have a barebones UI, just without the G. The G is only relevant for first impression and ease of use, but not important at all beyond launch party and for speculators.

When we announced IOTA ( 1 month prior to announcing sale ) we let everyone know that IOTA was not a speculative asset, it's not an investment, it is and always will be Internet-of-Things software. It may increase/decrease in value due to its nature of being inherently a limited supply software if the demand for its usage increase, but that's not what the IOTA project is about. In fact I have been VERY vocal and clear on this from day one exactly to avoid having to deal with these issues. Value comes from adoption of the tech, adoption comes from the real world. IOTA is not a p&d.

So repeat after me: you bought IoT software, therefore I assume you need it for some IoT project, or at least a distributed ledger project. I assume this of every IOTA holder, and when it's clear a holder does not have any intention of using IOTA for anything other than piggybacking on other people's blood, sweat and tears for quick profit, well then I tell them to fuck off, because we were 100% open and crystal clear on this from day 1.

Lastly I want to say that OF COURSE I understand that a significant portion of IOTA holders got no tech skills, no tech plans for IOTA and may not even care about IOTA beyond pure profit. I'm a realist and a pragmatic person, but I don't OWE you anything, so when people start using terms like 'blackmail' when we ask people to do (testing) what has always been obvious would be needed, I will respond with "Fuck off". If you JUST want to profit from IOTA, fine, it's a choice you've made, I can't and won't stop you, but you could AT LEAST do the sane (even from a purely egoist speculator POV) thing and not just sit around complaining, but at least contribute something to the COMMUNITY. The Azure news was an announcement, but it's only the beginning. We got big plans for Azure and beyond, we're actively in touch with Microsoft and big news will come out that is way more exciting than just the initial announcement, so stop polluting with negativity and instead do SOMETHING, ANYTHING productive.

Fair enough, but as the present face of Iota, I would avoid using the words "fuck off" to anyone. No one deserves that, even myself, I'm trying to find answers and ask tough questions, be prepared for much worse when Iota is out in the wild.  Thick skin and "thank you for your input" is enough when it comes to most trolls.  I've been testing, so I'm not being completely unproductive.

[farl4web]

I agree, but that's just how he is. You can recognize him without knowing his username. He just can't stay calm and that is not good for a spokesperson for such project. Hope he will get relaxed and professional. 

[Cyrax89721]

This is by far one of the angriest devs I've ever come across.

[lordoliver]

This is by far one of the angriest dev's I've ever come across.

Maybe but its understandable. The community here consists more and more only of peope with only those 3 things in mind:
profit, profit and profit.
I have to wait? Omg, so annoying...
I have to do something for it? Naahh...
You are still not ready? Fuck!! Why not? I want to dump!
So ridiculous...

And it gets even more ridiculous, if you think about the fact, that the whole cryptospace was more or less invented to go against those kind of people...

[farl4web]

Why do certain folks always bring out their sockpuppets to ask questions, make statements, etc. that don't fit the brown-nosing criteria?  

It's rhetorical...   no need to reply...  

I reply because I can and because I have been watching these discussions for a while and I want to clearify the problem and hopefully get David so far that he keeps relaxed and professional, because I know he can be very professional. I am certainly not a sockpuppet or weren't you talking to me?    

This is by far one of the angriest devs I've ever come across.

He is not the dev, come-from-beyond is. And he's chill, he just had his vacation. 

[iotatoken]

I reply because I can and because I have been watching these discussions for a while and I want to clarify the problem and hopefully get David so far that he keeps relaxed and professional, because I know he can be very professional. I am certainly not a sockpuppet or weren't you talking to me?    

I am professional in professional settings, I don't consider random complaints by primarily speculator trolls on BTT to be 'professional' and so telling THOSE people to "fuck off" after having explicitly explained since day 1 that we're not catering to speculator trolls is not me being angry, it's just genuinely me saying "fuck off" to remove any doubt that it is indeed what I want from those people.

My vision for IOTA is for IoT, not for BTT pump and dump schemes, so the more I can drive those people away, the better. I have never had any professional issue whatsoever precisely because that's what I prioritize. But I'm not the type of person to put on a fake act and self-censor myself on a forum.

[iotatoken]

Fair enough, but as the present face of Iota, I would avoid using the words "fuck off" to anyone. No one deserves that, even myself, I'm trying to find answers and ask tough questions, be prepared for much worse when Iota is out in the wild.  Thick skin and "thank you for your input" is enough when it comes to most trolls.  I've been testing, so I'm not being completely unproductive.

This is just ridiculous beyond reason.

No one deserves to be told to 'fuck off'? Then you live in a different realm of reality than me, when people complain and pollute threads with questions that has been answered ad nauseam since October, not to mention make false accusations about 'blackmail', that indeed warrants that kind of statement.

Please don't try to paint your whiney posts as 'tough questions', there was zero 'tough' questions, they were barely even questions, they were thinly veiled rants about "WHY AM I NOT RICH YET!?"

If you had truly been testing you wouldn't even ask the question, as you'd have your answer, so fuck off with your lies too.

[iotatoken]

Your vision is very strong, your ideas are very strong, I understand you want to do a different product, revolutionary.

It would be impolite of me to not thank you for your kind words, and I share ALL of that with my co-founders and collaborators.

But focus too much on the support of the community is wrong

I'm not sure how to further elucidate it, but I'll try: what I am primarily responding to is not the community itself. The vast majority of the IOTA community is great and active people who believe in the vision and technology that fuels it. What I am responding to here is people that complain about 'blackmail' when we simply ask and INFORM people that testing is necessary before launch. That's it. Nothing deters us, we work 24/7 on IOTA behind the scenes, but the truth is we NEED testing and testing is an issue of manpower, not vision or anything else. Take ANY company in the world, whether it be one of Google's projects or a game studio like Blizzard, they all desperately ask for beta-testers because without them they can't build their services. It's the law of nature.

Here it is full of investors who do not have the time (and ability) to make technical tests, investors are not enemies or mere speculators: they are people who gave you trust and proved it by giving you money with no guarantee of return . I understand that this topic is full of trolls, but do not confuse things, investors should be treated like benefactors , not as employees or enemies. I hope you think about that and I'm sorry for my bad English.

We got no investors. That's the thing. IOTA was NEVER marketed nor sold as an investment, we made this explicitly clear REPEATEDLY to ensure that those who bought for investment alone would not have any right whatsoever to complain, and those are the ones I am addressing, not the community at large. And like I said in that post: if you happen to just be one of those who bought IOTA in hopes of it appreciating in value monetarily, well that was your choice and it's 100% your responsibility, we don't owe you anything other than the software, but even in that scenario you should still do the sane thing of helping out, not complaining about something you gave away your rights to complain about when you purchased iota software.

[vgo]

When in Goxloniex?? 

[Come-from-Beyond]

Some routine cleaning has been done.

[SteveoMB]

I find it hard to understand IOTA's purpose even though I read the BTT-announcement. Can someone lead me to an incisive source/text. I would like to learn the essence and field of action beside other crypto's out there.

Thanks in advance!

[Tobo]

If you have some time, come to the #numbercrunching channel to help to do some computation. It still will take 3 days to complete the computation with the current participants. Urgent! - http://chat.iotatoken.com/channel/numbercrunching

[iotatoken]

I find it hard to understand IOTA's purpose even though I read the BTT-announcement. Can someone lead me to an incisive source/text. I would like to learn the essence and field of action beside other crypto's out there.

Thanks in advance!

Sure, here is an article I wrote back in late 2015: http://medium.com/@DavidSonstebo/iota-97592581f985 it's very high level and doesn't lay out the full vision entirely, but it's a good intro.

[lordoliver]

I am certainly not a sockpuppet or weren't you talking to me?    

Obviously, you're not a sockpuppet, so no.

[tolstoy]

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The IBM Quantum Experience
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IBM Is Now Letting Anyone Play With Its Quantum Computer
http://www.wired.com/2016/05/ibm-letting-anyone-play-quantum-computer/

How IBM’s new five-qubit universal quantum computer works
http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/05/how-ibms-new-five-qubit-universal-quantum-computer-works/

[raganius.com]

good evening,
can someone help me in this issue, please? I am not being able to create an iota address. I guess I might be doing something wrong.
thanx

[twistelaar]

Hehe nice to see the fire of IOTATOKEN his respond to the trolls 

Here a nice short interview just posted on twitter

https://invesd.org/interview-4-iota/

[yassin54]

Hehe nice to see the fire of IOTATOKEN his respond to the trolls 

Here a nice short interview just posted on twitter

https://invesd.org/interview-4-iota/

tweeted!! https://twitter.com/MagicNxt/status/728130355077648386

and this article (French) https://twitter.com/MagicNxt/status/728127897660051456   (IOTA and ElectriCChain)

[tyz]

It is probably because IOTA is a complete new approach than all crypto / blockchain projects before. The focus of IOTA is to build a platform which allow scalable realtime-based micro transactions. IOTA could be a backbone and ecosystem for the internet of things. Main focus is based on allowing incentive base transactions for distributed computing, distributed data, distributed storage, distributed bandwith and distributed energy.

I find it hard to understand IOTA's purpose even though I read the BTT-announcement. Can someone lead me to an incisive source/text. I would like to learn the essence and field of action beside other crypto's out there.

Thanks in advance!

[x13]

There was a youtube video about IOTA. I wanted to show it to a friend in order to convince him about IOTA. Now, it seems the video was removed by the uploader. Could someone upload it again?

This was the video url: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b35zN2RzQE