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November 27, 2023, 12:34:44 AM
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Shout out to my knicks.  I almost turned the game off but figured it was an inseason tourny game watch to the end.  Down 21 in the third and 17 in the 4th they locked down Jimmy buckets all 4th quarter.  Held Miami to 11 or 12 points all quarter and rampages theor way back to a win at the garden.  Best win of the year so far for them.  Team looks tight.

That was a close game the other night. Nice to see Randle making a few shots after starting off the season with one of the lowest field goal shooting percentages in modern basketball history. They showed they can play with good teams when they have it together. I wouldn’t doubt them making the playoffs this year.

Knicks are definitely making the playoffs if they stay relatively injury free.  There just isn't enough good teams on the bottom half of the eastern conference to keep them out.  Randle eventually has to know this is brunson's team he needs to play second fiddle.  Tonight is a big game against the Suns.  Durant is a game time decisions on if he plays.  Will obviously make a huge difference whether he is on the court or not.
No Durant and the Suns are still winning the game currently. Gordon and Booker seem to be holding it down so far. Knicks better get someone besides Brunson going or they're not gonna have a chance in this game.

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November 27, 2023, 02:55:52 AM
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No Durant and the Suns are still winning the game currently. Gordon and Booker seem to be holding it down so far. Knicks better get someone besides Brunson going or they're not gonna have a chance in this game.

The Knicks couldn't take advantage in this game despite the Suns being undermanned, missing two of their superstars, and the Knicks playing at home. Suns with Booker (+ -) Durant really playing good basketball here, so even if bookies would sometimes make them as underdog, we can be confident that they have a good chance of winning, I'm wondering what the ML odds for this game?

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November 27, 2023, 03:31:38 AM
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No Durant and the Suns are still winning the game currently. Gordon and Booker seem to be holding it down so far. Knicks better get someone besides Brunson going or they're not gonna have a chance in this game.

The Knicks couldn't take advantage in this game despite the Suns being undermanned, missing two of their superstars, and the Knicks playing at home. Suns with Booker (+ -) Durant really playing good basketball here, so even if bookies would sometimes make them as underdog, we can be confident that they have a good chance of winning, I'm wondering what the ML odds for this game?

Two straight home games without a win— that's disappointing. I initially thought they would only struggle with inconsistency during the playoffs, but it seems to be an issue even in the regular season. Meanwhile, the Suns have surged to the number 3 spot with their 7-game win streak. This team is proving to live on people's expectation. I wouldn't be surprised if they claim the number 1 spot once all three key players consistently play together.

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November 27, 2023, 03:34:47 AM
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No Durant and the Suns are still winning the game currently. Gordon and Booker seem to be holding it down so far. Knicks better get someone besides Brunson going or they're not gonna have a chance in this game.

The Knicks couldn't take advantage in this game despite the Suns being undermanned, missing two of their superstars, and the Knicks playing at home. Suns with Booker (+ -) Durant really playing good basketball here, so even if bookies would sometimes make them as underdog, we can be confident that they have a good chance of winning, I'm wondering what the ML odds for this game?
Phoenix odds on Moneyline were +180 before the game started. If I were to bet the Suns without Durant I probably would have taken the 6 points to be safer. Missing 2 of your good players is a serious disadvantage and Booker has too many off games to rely on him for big points.

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November 27, 2023, 04:08:23 AM
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No Durant and the Suns are still winning the game currently. Gordon and Booker seem to be holding it down so far. Knicks better get someone besides Brunson going or they're not gonna have a chance in this game.

The Knicks couldn't take advantage in this game despite the Suns being undermanned, missing two of their superstars, and the Knicks playing at home. Suns with Booker (+ -) Durant really playing good basketball here, so even if bookies would sometimes make them as underdog, we can be confident that they have a good chance of winning, I'm wondering what the ML odds for this game?
Phoenix odds on Moneyline were +180 before the game started. If I were to bet the Suns without Durant I probably would have taken the 6 points to be safer. Missing 2 of your good players is a serious disadvantage and Booker has too many off games to rely on him for big points.

Before that game, Booker scored 40 points in their win against Memphis. Considering Memphis is considered a weaker team, bettors might have hesitated to take the Money Line against the Knicks, who had lost their previous game. So, +6 seemed to be the right bet, and indeed, it turned out to be a close game. If Knicks hadn't struggled in the first quarter, the Knicks could have won, but the Suns still managed to cover as +6 was too many points to give.

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November 27, 2023, 07:09:15 AM
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Sixers won against the OKC, and Joel just bully himself against the young Chet in the paint in the very first possession of the game and it shows that they are going to capitalized on it and that's what they did. But the kid can't be deny, he is really playing very good basketball and so him and Wemby are going to fight it hard for the ROY award.
Currently I consider Chet Holmgren as the Rookie of the Year. The hype around Wemby is just that hype. Chet is consistently performing well and significantly contributing to the Thunder. When comparing the performance of their respective teams the Thunder with Chet Holmgrem is outperforming Wembenyama's team. The stats speak for themselves; at this moment Chet Holmgren is far different to Wembenyama.

Like you, I also consider him my Rookie of the Year, and I've already put a bet on him winning this year.
I guess the teammates around both of them have a huge impact on the voting.

Currently, the Thunder has better players compared to the Spurs. They already have an all-star in SGA, and good role players like Giddy, Dort, 2 Williams, and more. As for the Spurs, have young players, but not as good as the Thunder. Maybe some will consider it as well, but if you will just base it on the stats of both players, Chet is better on some stats, but his efficiency is way better than that of Wembanyama. Currently, he's averaging at least 50% from FG, 40% from the three-point area, and 90% from the free throw line. He's on his way to get his first 50-40-90 record. The one that I remember who got this type of achievement at the end of the regular season is Steph Curry. Of course, it's too early, and this might change as well, but his efficiency might lead him to win the title.

I just don't like what Coach Pop is doing right now. He's experimenting currently and putting Jeremy Sochan as their point guard where in fact, he hasn't played in that position ever since. I mean they have better PGs like Tre Jones, but I don't know why Coach Pop is doing this. Maybe for the future of the team?

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November 27, 2023, 07:46:54 AM
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Sixers won against the OKC, and Joel just bully himself against the young Chet in the paint in the very first possession of the game and it shows that they are going to capitalized on it and that's what they did. But the kid can't be deny, he is really playing very good basketball and so him and Wemby are going to fight it hard for the ROY award.
Currently I consider Chet Holmgren as the Rookie of the Year. The hype around Wemby is just that hype. Chet is consistently performing well and significantly contributing to the Thunder. When comparing the performance of their respective teams the Thunder with Chet Holmgrem is outperforming Wembenyama's team. The stats speak for themselves; at this moment Chet Holmgren is far different to Wembenyama.

I don't know why they put Chet Holmgren as a rookie this year because he is part of the 2022-2023 draft pick with Paolo Banchero and he won that award last year. Maybe they are giving him a chance because he didn't play last year at all.

Yes, that is the rule mate, he is still eligible for the rookie of the year because he wasn't able to play in the 2022-2023 season because of a season ending injuries he got, a freak accident during exhibitions matches. And so with that, Paolo has no competition last year and it really benefited and he won a landslide vote for the Rookie of the year.

He is now on the 2nd spot of the rookie of the year candidates and I think he might really steal this one from Wemby if he keeps on piling up more stats. Wemby on the other hand might feel the unfair decision if ever Chet wins this one. He is the rookie and Chet is supposed to be a sophomore this year.
Anyway, I guess Wemby just needs to play harder if he wants that award so badly for himself.
Their stats are not that far but Wemby seems to be higher in rebounds. If one could make consistent scoring then he might win this race.
The odds are -190 for Wemby and +150 for Chet.

Yes, initially it was Wemby who is the huge favorite for the Rookie of the year award. However, his numbers is not to be expected from him, we wanted to see more and his teams is struggling. While Chet is relax this season, and playing really good. In the beginning, even OKC fans says that he is overrated. Now they see the true potential of Chet and he is embrace by the OKC fans. But we will have to see how Wemby is going to play the whole season, maybe he just needed good games to put himself in front again for the Rookie of the Year.

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Yes, initially it was Wemby who is the huge favorite for the Rookie of the year award. However, his numbers is not to be expected from him, we wanted to see more and his teams is struggling. While Chet is relax this season, and playing really good. In the beginning, even OKC fans says that he is overrated. Now they see the true potential of Chet and he is embrace by the OKC fans. But we will have to see how Wemby is going to play the whole season, maybe he just needed good games to put himself in front again for the Rookie of the Year.

I'm not sure if the odds that were reported are still available, but I doubt we would get those odds considering how Wemby and Chet have played recently. It seems like the expectations have flipped because Chet has been doing well with his consistent contribution to the team. Everyone was probably thinking that Wemby would easily win the ROY, but his numbers don't align with our expectations. So, again, most bettors might lose their bets if they placed them before the season started.

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November 27, 2023, 09:59:54 AM
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Yes, initially it was Wemby who is the huge favorite for the Rookie of the year award. However, his numbers is not to be expected from him, we wanted to see more and his teams is struggling. While Chet is relax this season, and playing really good. In the beginning, even OKC fans says that he is overrated. Now they see the true potential of Chet and he is embrace by the OKC fans. But we will have to see how Wemby is going to play the whole season, maybe he just needed good games to put himself in front again for the Rookie of the Year.

I'm not sure if the odds that were reported are still available, but I doubt we would get those odds considering how Wemby and Chet have played recently. It seems like the expectations have flipped because Chet has been doing well with his consistent contribution to the team. Everyone was probably thinking that Wemby would easily win the ROY, but his numbers don't align with our expectations. So, again, most bettors might lose their bets if they placed them before the season started.

I just check the outright odds on sportsbet.io and it seems that Wemby is still the favorite to win, the ROTY award,

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Holmgren, Chet - 2.02

But I guess the odds is much closer now as we have seen the Chet have played very good basketball in the last couple of games for OKC, even had that 3 point shot against the Warriors to force the game into OT, and then won the game. So for sure this might fixated for some that will be going to vote for the ROTY for this season and uses that as an argument for Chet to become the winner.

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I just check the outright odds on sportsbet.io and it seems that Wemby is still the favorite to win, the ROTY award,

Wembanyama, Victor  - 1.60
Holmgren, Chet - 2.02

But I guess the odds is much closer now as we have seen the Chet have played very good basketball in the last couple of games for OKC, even had that 3 point shot against the Warriors to force the game into OT, and then won the game. So for sure this might fixated for some that will be going to vote for the ROTY for this season and uses that as an argument for Chet to become the winner.

I think there are no changes yet, Wemby still at the top, 2nd is Chet and a little far from these 2 is Ausar Thompson who's also playing great so far. It's still early this season so that might be the reason we have not seen changes like the odds are getting closer between Wemby and Chet. Wemby might still improve his numbers, but if Chet continues to play like what he have showed us from the last couple of games, undoubtedly he will overtake Wemby at the top spot in the middle of the season.
I'd rather look at their team contribution and impact when they're on the floor to help the team win, so right now I have Chet winning the ROTY. The Spurs are still tanking even after the Wemby acquisition.

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November 27, 2023, 10:24:47 AM
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Yes, initially it was Wemby who is the huge favorite for the Rookie of the year award. However, his numbers is not to be expected from him, we wanted to see more and his teams is struggling. While Chet is relax this season, and playing really good. In the beginning, even OKC fans says that he is overrated. Now they see the true potential of Chet and he is embrace by the OKC fans. But we will have to see how Wemby is going to play the whole season, maybe he just needed good games to put himself in front again for the Rookie of the Year.

I'm not sure if the odds that were reported are still available, but I doubt we would get those odds considering how Wemby and Chet have played recently. It seems like the expectations have flipped because Chet has been doing well with his consistent contribution to the team. Everyone was probably thinking that Wemby would easily win the ROY, but his numbers don't align with our expectations. So, again, most bettors might lose their bets if they placed them before the season started.

I just check the outright odds on sportsbet.io and it seems that Wemby is still the favorite to win, the ROTY award,

Wembanyama, Victor  - 1.60
Holmgren, Chet - 2.02

But I guess the odds is much closer now as we have seen the Chet have played very good basketball in the last couple of games for OKC, even had that 3 point shot against the Warriors to force the game into OT, and then won the game. So for sure this might fixated for some that will be going to vote for the ROTY for this season and uses that as an argument for Chet to become the winner.

So, there's been a slight movement of action on Wemby's odds. If we flip -190 to decimals, it's like 1.53, which means the odds bumped up a bit, hinting at a lower chance of winning. Seems folks still believe in Wemby winning that ROY title, even if he screw up in recent games. I guess for the bettors putting their money on Chet at 2.02, that's a pretty sweet steal, huh?

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November 27, 2023, 10:31:43 AM
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Milwaukee Bucks is unrecognizable now. On the other hand Portland is playing better than expected. The margin is over 20 points at the start of the second half. If the Bucks can come back from this, they'll have done a great job. It's interesting to watch Lillard play against Portland. Bucks need a good momentum before it's too late.
It was a quite great a comeback and it was unexpected. As you have pointed out, they were unrecognizable and they managed to have a great comeback. Bucks not only managed to comeback and equalize, but also had a very solid clutch performance. But, Giannis's touch and score saved them. If Portland were a little bit better at the clutch, they could also win. It was indeed interesting to watch Dame against his old team, and he played great. I like the concept of franchise players but his move to the Bucks maybe needed a lot by everyone, it was a right choice and we watched a good game with him on the other team against his old team. Expecting great things from them in the playoffs.
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The Spurs experienced another defeat, previously they also lost to the Warriors but now to stronger team, namely the Nuggets with difference of 12 points.
But in today match against the Nuggets they performed quite well and indeed the Spurs are not balanced opponent when faced with the Nuggets.
Currently, Spurs are at the bottom of the western region and whether they will be better or not in the future is uncertain.

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November 27, 2023, 11:47:42 AM
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They didn't perform well because they didn't win; it was a high-scoring game, and that's what they like. However, if they face a team that is good defensively, like the Clippers, they really struggle and can't compete well. If I recall correctly, they are on a 12-game losing streak now. This is not the journey we'd like to witness for a hyped rookie player who is expected to win the Rookie of the Year this season. There were even discussions before that Wemby also has a chance to win the MVP at the same time, but with the looks of it now, it's far from happening.

The Spurs experienced another defeat, previously they also lost to the Warriors but now to stronger team, namely the Nuggets with difference of 12 points.
But in today match against the Nuggets they performed quite well and indeed the Spurs are not balanced opponent when faced with the Nuggets.
Currently, Spurs are at the bottom of the western region and whether they will be better or not in the future is uncertain.


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They didn't perform well because they didn't win; it was a high-scoring game, and that's what they like. However, if they face a team that is good defensively, like the Clippers, they really struggle and can't compete well. If I recall correctly, they are on a 12-game losing streak now. This is not the journey we'd like to witness for a hyped rookie player who is expected to win the Rookie of the Year this season. There were even discussions before that Wemby also has a chance to win the MVP at the same time, but with the looks of it now, it's far from happening.

The Spurs experienced another defeat, previously they also lost to the Warriors but now to stronger team, namely the Nuggets with difference of 12 points.
But in today match against the Nuggets they performed quite well and indeed the Spurs are not balanced opponent when faced with the Nuggets.
Currently, Spurs are at the bottom of the western region and whether they will be better or not in the future is uncertain.


Its unfortunate start of conference for Wemby to experience such heavy lose. But also it can make him stronger especially for experiencing those defeat since if he practice more and became more better player next year provably he can help out Spurs to get more wins next season. I know its early to tell about the future but it seems like they need a huge improvement for their roster so that they can help Wemby to maximize his potential. Although they perform so well on their match up with Nuggets and that is really fine to see. There's a huge lesson to be learn from Jokic on their match up so hopefully he get a lot from that and became more better on their next opponent.

To many fans got disappointed on Spurs this season due to their lost streaks. But let see if they can end that up and get their wins since they really need that.

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November 27, 2023, 11:58:22 AM
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Yes, initially it was Wemby who is the huge favorite for the Rookie of the year award. However, his numbers is not to be expected from him, we wanted to see more and his teams is struggling. While Chet is relax this season, and playing really good. In the beginning, even OKC fans says that he is overrated. Now they see the true potential of Chet and he is embrace by the OKC fans. But we will have to see how Wemby is going to play the whole season, maybe he just needed good games to put himself in front again for the Rookie of the Year.

I'm not sure if the odds that were reported are still available, but I doubt we would get those odds considering how Wemby and Chet have played recently. It seems like the expectations have flipped because Chet has been doing well with his consistent contribution to the team. Everyone was probably thinking that Wemby would easily win the ROY, but his numbers don't align with our expectations. So, again, most bettors might lose their bets if they placed them before the season started.

I just check the outright odds on sportsbet.io and it seems that Wemby is still the favorite to win, the ROTY award,

Wembanyama, Victor  - 1.60
Holmgren, Chet - 2.02

But I guess the odds is much closer now as we have seen the Chet have played very good basketball in the last couple of games for OKC, even had that 3 point shot against the Warriors to force the game into OT, and then won the game. So for sure this might fixated for some that will be going to vote for the ROTY for this season and uses that as an argument for Chet to become the winner.

So, there's been a slight movement of action on Wemby's odds. If we flip -190 to decimals, it's like 1.53, which means the odds bumped up a bit, hinting at a lower chance of winning. Seems folks still believe in Wemby winning that ROY title, even if he screw up in recent games. I guess for the bettors putting their money on Chet at 2.02, that's a pretty sweet steal, huh?

Taking a risk might be good for such an amount, the chance of winning is not by far if we analyze both performances, as Chet continues to showcase
his talents and making his way to gain the interest of national media.

With that good number of minutes playing and being also an important part of the team, I also agree that it can be used as an argument for voting.

Winning the ROY will surely be close between him and Wemby unless Spurs make a good comeback and start winning games.
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November 27, 2023, 12:42:13 PM
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The Spurs experienced another defeat, previously they also lost to the Warriors but now to stronger team, namely the Nuggets with difference of 12 points.
But in today match against the Nuggets they performed quite well and indeed the Spurs are not balanced opponent when faced with the Nuggets.
Currently, Spurs are at the bottom of the western region and whether they will be better or not in the future is uncertain.

The Denver Nuggets are just too much for them. Wemby is there and Jokic still managed to get 39 points which is not the normal number of Jokic offensively. Wemby can play better than that, especially on the defensive end but I guess being young is like this. He needs a lot of experience first unlike Jokic who had been playing the middle for a long time.

Spurs is filled with young players, I am not really expecting too much from them this season and I think Coach Pop feels the same. He just wants them to play as hard as they can and learn more and then maybe next year it will be a different Spurs while they are growing this season.
Keep them healthy and try to avoid injuries as much as possible, play hard but not overdoing it. As I watch Wemby every game I can see there are so many things that should be upgraded and I bet he knows that too. Shooting, boxing out, his blocking skills are great though, he keeps on swatting the ball from every opponent going to the paint but he should learn how to make it a stop instead of out of bounds.

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November 27, 2023, 01:03:58 PM
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Yes, initially it was Wemby who is the huge favorite for the Rookie of the year award. However, his numbers is not to be expected from him, we wanted to see more and his teams is struggling. While Chet is relax this season, and playing really good. In the beginning, even OKC fans says that he is overrated. Now they see the true potential of Chet and he is embrace by the OKC fans. But we will have to see how Wemby is going to play the whole season, maybe he just needed good games to put himself in front again for the Rookie of the Year.

I'm not sure if the odds that were reported are still available, but I doubt we would get those odds considering how Wemby and Chet have played recently. It seems like the expectations have flipped because Chet has been doing well with his consistent contribution to the team. Everyone was probably thinking that Wemby would easily win the ROY, but his numbers don't align with our expectations. So, again, most bettors might lose their bets if they placed them before the season started.

I just check the outright odds on sportsbet.io and it seems that Wemby is still the favorite to win, the ROTY award,

Wembanyama, Victor  - 1.60
Holmgren, Chet - 2.02

But I guess the odds is much closer now as we have seen the Chet have played very good basketball in the last couple of games for OKC, even had that 3 point shot against the Warriors to force the game into OT, and then won the game. So for sure this might fixated for some that will be going to vote for the ROTY for this season and uses that as an argument for Chet to become the winner.

So, there's been a slight movement of action on Wemby's odds. If we flip -190 to decimals, it's like 1.53, which means the odds bumped up a bit, hinting at a lower chance of winning. Seems folks still believe in Wemby winning that ROY title, even if he screw up in recent games. I guess for the bettors putting their money on Chet at 2.02, that's a pretty sweet steal, huh?

Taking a risk might be good for such an amount, the chance of winning is not by far if we analyze both performances, as Chet continues to showcase
his talents and making his way to gain the interest of national media.

With that good number of minutes playing and being also an important part of the team, I also agree that it can be used as an argument for voting.

Winning the ROY will surely be close between him and Wemby unless Spurs make a good comeback and start winning games.
Chet and OKC is really doing fine this season that's why he take all the advantage regarding on the ROTY race that's why I'm convince that he have more bigger advantage to win that compare to Wemby. Spurs struggling so much this season and its like they can't get a perfect fit that can help Wemby to dominate in the floor as well their other players to step up. If they struggle more and will not get more wins for a possible came back then a chance for Wemby to win this trophy maybe impossible to happen.

Chet easily adopt to his teammates that's why we see some good performance each game coming with him.

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November 27, 2023, 01:41:07 PM
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The Spurs experienced another defeat, previously they also lost to the Warriors but now to stronger team, namely the Nuggets with difference of 12 points.
But in today match against the Nuggets they performed quite well and indeed the Spurs are not balanced opponent when faced with the Nuggets.
Currently, Spurs are at the bottom of the western region and whether they will be better or not in the future is uncertain.


The Denver Nuggets are the hardest opponent they need to beat in the west at home and every game against them should be well-calculated and observed because it will be useful when they meet in the NBA playoffs this season. Looks like it will gonna be an easy back-to-back championship for the Nuggets this season if they keep winning easily at home without some hard challenges from their opponents. I don't have expectations from Spurs anymore maybe we should just stop joining the hype and focus more on the improved players this season.

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November 27, 2023, 05:51:20 PM
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I would say Chet "could" be the rookie of the year, but I never liked giving the rookie of the year award to non-rookie players just because they were missing games. I think it was Ben Simmons who got it like on year three, that was really not good, maybe it was Embiid, not sure. All in all, Chet had more time with an NBA team, even when injured he was taken care of by an NBA team doctors, and trainers, and that is much better than some kid from France could ever get, dude was getting basically just "the best we got" situation there and he was still lacking.

All in all, Wemby still has time to turn this around, he is doing fine, he is not too far away, and if he could go on a rampage for a few games, he could do great. We have already seen him get close to 40 points before, so it is not really impossible for him to do that. Plus, getting rookie of the year has great benefits for your next contract, and that could be very profitable for him, so he would be more inclined to get it.

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