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July 03, 2019, 02:14:43 PM
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Their offensive power is still the same and with Cauley Stein, their defensive is better right now.

So this is the latest news with Warriors.. I was not able to follow as I have gone on a trip today.
For me, this is a good news for the Warriors, been Cauley Stein him play with the Kings and he did really help to end with a good record although they fail to enter in the playoffs. I think he is better than Looney, so I think if he can catch up with the chemistry, he will be a starter soon.

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July 03, 2019, 02:30:47 PM
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Without Kevin Durant, GSW still has the same core -- Curry, Thompson, Green. And now they have DLO Russell and Looney. Even without KD, they are still a superteam and very strong contender for next season.

People do easily get discouraged if they do saw that a certain player do transfer into other team without

even thinking or seeing wayback that Warriors do able to steal out championships with their  original roster.
They already lose Durant but doesn't mean that they aren't already a strong contender.
Losing KD might need new system to work out with them, because even they still have a good line up the plays and chemistry still needs to workout again, we all knew how good this team with or without KD, they proved it before and now they will also do the same, it's all bout loving the game and loving the competitions for them.

Russell, Curry and Thompson with Looney and Green this guys still competitive if blending will work right away, another test for coach Kerr and his staff.
They would just simply focus into their previous teamwork before KD joined up the team.They prove their worth already and seeing it

once again would really be interesting but I doubt that it wont really be an easy path on next season yet superteams is already being formed along the
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July 03, 2019, 02:40:05 PM
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Without Kevin Durant, GSW still has the same core -- Curry, Thompson, Green. And now they have DLO Russell and Looney. Even without KD, they are still a superteam and very strong contender for next season.

i don't know what is D'Angelo Russel role in this Warrior team. PG? there's Curry. SG? Klay is onfire. so i think Russel will have a new role here.
and the other hand Nets have KD, kyrie and DA Jordan ! i guess KD will build a new dinasty in this team!
In my opinion, Curry plays better of the ball than being the point guard. So, DLO Russell can play point while Curry is the clutch shooter. Anyway, GSW is known to be a positionless team so anything can happen on their play.

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They would just simply focus into their previous teamwork before KD joined up the team.They prove their worth already and seeing it
once again would really be interesting but I doubt that it wont really be an easy path on next season yet superteams is already being formed along the
way.
We already saw a glimpse of their past plays during the finals against Toronto. Their rotation is still very impressive just like the time they had 73-9 record. I think we will see more of that rotation next season.
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July 03, 2019, 04:23:14 PM
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I guess if we are going to talk about specific contract deals, if he could have signed with Denver he could have saved a lot more as well.

I think it was Denver but I am not sure where one state has such a low state tax that you could literally save tons from just being based there. Almost all digital companies were starting out there "digitally" because they were actually based somewhere else but wanted to pay less taxes.

11 million dollars is a lot of money for all of us and that includes Kawhi too because money is money and Scottie Pippen who was second man to Jordan actually went broke, same with Iverson, so 11 million dollars is always a decent amount of money. However, it is over the course of 4 years and he could make a ton of money in any other way to close the gap if he wants to. I still hope he goes to Lakers but I doubt the reason will be extra 11 million dollars.
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July 03, 2019, 04:43:42 PM
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I guess if we are going to talk about specific contract deals, if he could have signed with Denver he could have saved a lot more as well.

I think it was Denver but I am not sure where one state has such a low state tax that you could literally save tons from just being based there. Almost all digital companies were starting out there "digitally" because they were actually based somewhere else but wanted to pay less taxes.

11 million dollars is a lot of money for all of us and that includes Kawhi too because money is money and Scottie Pippen who was second man to Jordan actually went broke, same with Iverson, so 11 million dollars is always a decent amount of money. However, it is over the course of 4 years and he could make a ton of money in any other way to close the gap if he wants to. I still hope he goes to Lakers but I doubt the reason will be extra 11 million dollars.


Pippen and Iverson are far from broke.  They are known as "rich people broke" meaning they still have millions in assets.  Believe me, they are richer than 99.9% of people still.

Once your at that level of wealth 11 million extra dollars won't convince you because at that point more money is just diminishing returns, you start looking for other things like a good playing environment and a chance to win more rings.
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July 03, 2019, 05:04:57 PM
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In my opinion, Curry plays better of the ball than being the point guard. So, DLO Russell can play point while Curry is the clutch shooter. Anyway, GSW is known to be a positionless team so anything can happen on their play.


True. Even Green positions himself as point and we saw it at the Finals when he was taking the ball down and getting some good buckets because he is being left open.
GSW plays is moving without the ball and we saw it was still working well.
They lost a lot of players in their playoffs games but yet they still made it to the Finals. It is not about them being a super team anymore but more of preserving their main players, Green, Curry and Thompson. They will just be adding another young player for their future.

Thanks to Leonard having a bad decision making or should I say late decisions.
Now, the Lakers will have a problem taking more free agents since they are all being grabbed by other teams. If they cannot make that deal with Leonard then they will be left by small paid players who will just fill up their roster.
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July 03, 2019, 06:03:17 PM
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It was Curry, Thompson, and Green who started the success of the Warriors, so as long as they play together, this test would not be hard for coach Kerr.
Do not forget about Andre Iguodala. He was instrumental and really the game changer in their first NBA finals match with Lebron's CAVS team. Since he was also traded, this current Warriors line up may still be dangerous but they no longer have that "invincible" aura. I doubt other teams will fear them now.
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July 03, 2019, 09:27:56 PM
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It was Curry, Thompson, and Green who started the success of the Warriors, so as long as they play together, this test would not be hard for coach Kerr.
Do not forget about Andre Iguodala. He was instrumental and really the game changer in their first NBA finals match with Lebron's CAVS team. Since he was also traded, this current Warriors line up may still be dangerous but they no longer have that "invincible" aura. I doubt other teams will fear them now.
Feeling bad that Iguodala has been discredited for the success of Golden State Warriors. Each player that has contributed during their run should be credited and Iguodala is one of it. Though those three players that has been mentioned are still good remaining on the team but don't underrate our boy Iguodala.

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July 03, 2019, 09:38:18 PM
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It was Curry, Thompson, and Green who started the success of the Warriors, so as long as they play together, this test would not be hard for coach Kerr.
Do not forget about Andre Iguodala. He was instrumental and really the game changer in their first NBA finals match with Lebron's CAVS team. Since he was also traded, this current Warriors line up may still be dangerous but they no longer have that "invincible" aura. I doubt other teams will fear them now.
Feeling bad that Iguodala has been discredited for the success of Golden State Warriors. Each player that has contributed during their run should be credited and Iguodala is one of it. Though those three players that has been mentioned are still good remaining on the team but don't underrate our boy Iguodala.

That is not really it.
They need a new face of their franchise. I mean they need to build it now and not later. Just like what they did with Steph before.
And because they lack the space they will need to let go of Iguodala.

But that doesnt mean they are discrediting the success of GSW by letting him go.
This is just like the Tony Parker thing.
Before he retires, he will still make money out of whatever team he will be and he gets to play too.
He is 35 and got a lot of injuries by now.
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July 03, 2019, 10:12:16 PM
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It was Curry, Thompson, and Green who started the success of the Warriors, so as long as they play together, this test would not be hard for coach Kerr.
Do not forget about Andre Iguodala. He was instrumental and really the game changer in their first NBA finals match with Lebron's CAVS team. Since he was also traded, this current Warriors line up may still be dangerous but they no longer have that "invincible" aura. I doubt other teams will fear them now.
Feeling bad that Iguodala has been discredited for the success of Golden State Warriors. Each player that has contributed during their run should be credited and Iguodala is one of it. Though those three players that has been mentioned are still good remaining on the team but don't underrate our boy Iguodala.

That is not really it.
They need a new face of their franchise. I mean they need to build it now and not later. Just like what they did with Steph before.
And because they lack the space they will need to let go of Iguodala.

But that doesnt mean they are discrediting the success of GSW by letting him go.
This is just like the Tony Parker thing.
Before he retires, he will still make money out of whatever team he will be and he gets to play too.
He is 35 and got a lot of injuries by now.

In NBA this is all business, though Iggy have contributed in the past to make the Warriors a champion but he got paid for that and he is therefore expected to deliver, and you are right, his lots of injury could be a problem for the Warriors so they'll to adjust.

If the last time they won the championship and we still see some changes, so that's kind of a normal thing.

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July 03, 2019, 10:19:34 PM
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It was Curry, Thompson, and Green who started the success of the Warriors, so as long as they play together, this test would not be hard for coach Kerr.
Do not forget about Andre Iguodala. He was instrumental and really the game changer in their first NBA finals match with Lebron's CAVS team. Since he was also traded, this current Warriors line up may still be dangerous but they no longer have that "invincible" aura. I doubt other teams will fear them now.
Feeling bad that Iguodala has been discredited for the success of Golden State Warriors. Each player that has contributed during their run should be credited and Iguodala is one of it. Though those three players that has been mentioned are still good remaining on the team but don't underrate our boy Iguodala.

That is not really it.
They need a new face of their franchise. I mean they need to build it now and not later. Just like what they did with Steph before.
And because they lack the space they will need to let go of Iguodala.

But that doesnt mean they are discrediting the success of GSW by letting him go.
This is just like the Tony Parker thing.
Before he retires, he will still make money out of whatever team he will be and he gets to play too.
He is 35 and got a lot of injuries by now.
I understand that it's all about business, franchise and other reasons to make their team better. But some fans aren't giving the credit that our boy Iguodala needs for contributing and giving his best to the team.
That's all that I'm trying to say.

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July 03, 2019, 10:26:07 PM
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Lost of premature reports today about Kawhi. That's why even it's not intentional on the part of Kawhi, people take it again as he is starting to create a drama again lol. People should relax a bit and just wait patiently for progress.



i don't know what is D'Angelo Russel role in this Warrior team. PG? there's Curry. SG? Klay is onfire. so i think Russel will have a new role here.

No worries, Steve Kerr is used to that.

D'Angelo Russell will fill Klay Thompson's position on the start of the season until I think before the All-Star break. Thompson will follow the normal period of recovery to his injury which is 5 to 7 months. In that timeframe, that's enough for Kerr to analyze what will be the best role that he can give to D'lo or if he will make some adjustments.



Feeling bad that Iguodala has been discredited for the success of Golden State Warriors. Each player that has contributed during their run should be credited and Iguodala is one of it. Though those three players that has been mentioned are still good remaining on the team but don't underrate our boy Iguodala.

Discredit for what? Do we have an official source stating that Iggy has been discredited by the Warriors itself or some post by people in the social media or it's just a self-opinion?

No, it's not what you think. As I said in my previous post, Iggy is the only valuable player that Warriors can trade. No way they will just do nothing while other teams are busy strengthening their respective cores. No discrediting part and I feel good for Iggy because he can still expect a good deal to another team at his age.

I'm sure he will not be on Memphis for long even if a buyout will not happen. But regardless if he will stay here or not, no doubt he can surely bring a big contribution to the Memphis squad.

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But some fans aren't giving the credit that our boy Iguodala needs for contributing and giving his best to the team.
That's all that I'm trying to say.

Don't see anything like that. Even on the most toxic page about NBA, I didn't saw any post or comments regarding Iguodala being discredited. He is a humble player to the point that I can't see the involvement of his name every time fans are arguing between Warriors and other teams. Maybe you just saw few so it's not a big deal after all and just ignored it.

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July 03, 2019, 10:48:30 PM
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It was Curry, Thompson, and Green who started the success of the Warriors, so as long as they play together, this test would not be hard for coach Kerr.
Do not forget about Andre Iguodala. He was instrumental and really the game changer in their first NBA finals match with Lebron's CAVS team. Since he was also traded, this current Warriors line up may still be dangerous but they no longer have that "invincible" aura. I doubt other teams will fear them now.
Feeling bad that Iguodala has been discredited for the success of Golden State Warriors. Each player that has contributed during their run should be credited and Iguodala is one of it. Though those three players that has been mentioned are still good remaining on the team but don't underrate our boy Iguodala.
I don't think he was discredit or something by the Golden State Warriors management. It's all business, he was paid, delivered even won an MVP. And besides, only a few team in NBA has kept their main core intact, its the nature of the business and I'm sure Iggy being a veteran, understand this.









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July 03, 2019, 11:18:51 PM
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It was Curry, Thompson, and Green who started the success of the Warriors, so as long as they play together, this test would not be hard for coach Kerr.
Do not forget about Andre Iguodala. He was instrumental and really the game changer in their first NBA finals match with Lebron's CAVS team. Since he was also traded, this current Warriors line up may still be dangerous but they no longer have that "invincible" aura. I doubt other teams will fear them now.
Feeling bad that Iguodala has been discredited for the success of Golden State Warriors. Each player that has contributed during their run should be credited and Iguodala is one of it. Though those three players that has been mentioned are still good remaining on the team but don't underrate our boy Iguodala.
I don't think he was discredit or something by the Golden State Warriors management. It's all business, he was paid, delivered even won an MVP. And besides, only a few team in NBA has kept their main core intact, its the nature of the business and I'm sure Iggy being a veteran, understand this.
I certainly agree with that, the basis is not solely based on the contribution of Iggy, it was based on his performance in the past season, and this season I think Iggy is less productive.

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July 04, 2019, 12:31:58 AM
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I certainly agree with that, the basis is not solely based on the contribution of Iggy, it was based on his performance in the past season, and this season I think Iggy is less productive.

I don't think that unexpected decision by the GSW to cut/trade him has anything to do with his production on the court. The official reason behind it is that in order for GSW to complete the sign and trade with Nets for DLo, they had to remove a contract from their roster. The unofficial - 5 days prior to him being traded to the Grizzlies he was a guest to "The Breakfast Club" (online radio show), where he put some strong accusations against their medical staff, he also talked about GSW ownership, Mark Jackson and why he hasn't had a new job since...interesting stuff.

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July 04, 2019, 01:16:12 AM
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Teams aren't loyal so it is no surprise that they got ride of Andre Iguodola.  People think the Lakers were loyal to Kobe by letting him retire a Laker but the only reason they did that is because he was still filling up the seats in Staples Center.  People don't pay to come watch Iggy play and he is an aging player.
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Their offensive power is still the same and with Cauley Stein, their defensive is better right now.

So this is the latest news with Warriors.. I was not able to follow as I have gone on a trip today.
For me, this is a good news for the Warriors, been Cauley Stein him play with the Kings and he did really help to end with a good record although they fail to enter in the playoffs. I think he is better than Looney, so I think if he can catch up with the chemistry, he will be a starter soon.
For the start of the season, I think they will rely on Looney first as their starting center but if they see that Cauley Stein is a better fit for the Warriors for the center then he will be the starting and he is better compare to Looney in my opinion.

I'm still waiting for the ending of the "Where will Kawhi go? Part 2" Cheesy. Lakers have a higher chance than the Raptors but lets see. If he goes to the Lakers, be ready Western Conference teams Cheesy.

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July 04, 2019, 03:13:55 AM
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Teams aren't loyal so it is no surprise that they got ride of Andre Iguodola.  People think the Lakers were loyal to Kobe by letting him retire a Laker but the only reason they did that is because he was still filling up the seats in Staples Center.  People don't pay to come watch Iggy play and he is an aging player.
Sad truth that even the players did there best and give everything to show love on this sport, franchise will still take care of the business, letting go of the players is no longer important right now as they need to make sure that fans will be at the teams back.

Iggy was there when warriors starting the journey to the finals, he's been named as finals MVP back then, but again it will just ends up as business, warriors needs to adjust.
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Teams aren't loyal so it is no surprise that they got ride of Andre Iguodola.  People think the Lakers were loyal to Kobe by letting him retire a Laker but the only reason they did that is because he was still filling up the seats in Staples Center.  People don't pay to come watch Iggy play and he is an aging player.
Sad truth that even the players did there best and give everything to show love on this sport, franchise will still take care of the business, letting go of the players is no longer important right now as they need to make sure that fans will be at the teams back.

Iggy was there when warriors starting the journey to the finals, he's been named as finals MVP back then, but again it will just ends up as business, warriors needs to adjust.
I'm also sad when I heard and read about that but then like what others said, it's a business. For sure if Iggy will retire and request into Warriors, pretty sure they will give him a one day contract. He is part of GSW era and made a good contribution for the team but Warriors move is surprising. No one knows it was coming.

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July 04, 2019, 04:43:37 AM
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Teams aren't loyal so it is no surprise that they got ride of Andre Iguodola.  People think the Lakers were loyal to Kobe by letting him retire a Laker but the only reason they did that is because he was still filling up the seats in Staples Center.  People don't pay to come watch Iggy play and he is an aging player.
Sad truth that even the players did there best and give everything to show love on this sport, franchise will still take care of the business, letting go of the players is no longer important right now as they need to make sure that fans will be at the teams back.

Iggy was there when warriors starting the journey to the finals, he's been named as finals MVP back then, but again it will just ends up as business, warriors needs to adjust.
I'm also sad when I heard and read about that but then like what others said, it's a business. For sure if Iggy will retire and request into Warriors, pretty sure they will give him a one day contract. He is part of GSW era and made a good contribution for the team but Warriors move is surprising. No one knows it was coming.

He has most of his wonderful experience with the Warriors, and he won a Finals MVP guarding Lebron in the NBA finals, that's a big achievement to him.
But things has to change and we should also accept this, players are aging and not playing as aggressive as they used, so Warriors needs to find a solution for this.

If he was able to stop Leonard last NBA finals, maybe we will not see this news now.

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