2025 NBA Season

[batang_bitcoin]

A bit off topic I guess.
With the upcoming retirement of Luol Deng. Who's feeling a bit sad here that our childhood superstars are retiring? I won't mention the other superstars that have already retired but many of them are part of our childhood. Sorry for bringing nostalgia to this thread.

I watched him play but he is not really a superstar so it did not mark a lot to me.
Maybe if Lebron will retire than I would feel sad because we know he is the king in the NBA and he has a lot of fans although he also has a lot of haters.

How old are you? maybe you missed those good old days when he's still playing at his peak?

Luol Deng was one of the best piece in the Chicago Bulls, who competed with Lebron in Miami. He became a superstar twice and was included in NBA all defensive 2nd team. He didnt get too much attention and was underrated because of D Rose's presence in Chicago.
He's like the Lamar Odom of Chicago, remember how Odom became a perfect complement for Kobe?

Exactly, oh my you've mentioned those retired great players. Oh well.. I'm continuing with my nostalgic moment.

[Oasisman]

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How old are you? maybe you missed those good old days when he's still playing at his peak?

Probably he have watched Luol Deng play, since It was in the 2010's when he's in the best days of his career.
But, didnt recognize how much effort and contribution Deng made in Chicago.

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Exactly, oh my you've mentioned those retired great players. Oh well.. I'm continuing with my nostalgic moment.

Well, Im a fan of superstars as well as those underrated players. Let me guess, Kobe fan?   or prime D.Rose?

[bestcoins1]

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This is actually one weakness that I've thought about this kid. His knees won't be able to hold up with that body weight and those high jumps. He should be fine for a couple of years of highly competitive games but his career will probably last less than 10 years if he is not going to change his playing style as he grows older.

I disagree with you, the problem he has is his weight. he doesn't need to change the way he plays or his playing style. Well, one solution for Zion in order to have a long career is to lose weight so as not to hurt his legs again. Weighing now at 285 pounds, one of the toughest players in the NBA.

He will have to change his playing style once he loses his explosiveness or quickness to still become an effective player. Or do you still expect him to rely heavily on those aspects of his game after five years?

In my opinion, Zion is not a good shooter. he can play with his style as it is now only with a lighter weight. because the current style with a hard dunk is very entertaining.
I realize that his playing style does not suit his current body, it can make him injured. and in my opinion, the solution is he should reducing his weight.

[batang_bitcoin]

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How old are you? maybe you missed those good old days when he's still playing at his peak?

Probably he have watched Luol Deng play, since It was in the 2010's when he's in the best days of his career.
But, didnt recognize how much effort and contribution Deng made in Chicago.

Those glory days, oh boy oh boy. He has been with the nicest era IMHO.

Well, Im a fan of superstars as well as those underrated players. Let me guess, Kobe fan?  or prime D.Rose?

Both but more of Kobe fan especially when they were always on the finals. And his legacy will forever be attached to the Lakers, I hope this time that the team can comeback as before because of their strong roster.

[Bttzed03]

In my opinion, Zion is not a good shooter. he can play with his style as it is now only with a lighter weight. because the current style with a hard dunk is very entertaining. I realize that his playing style does not suit his current body, it can make him injured. and in my opinion, the solution is he should reducing his weight.

Mate, that is why I said this in the first place

He should be fine for a couple of years of highly competitive games but his career will probably last less than 10 years if he is not going to change his playing style as he grows older.

Even if he loses his weight, his athleticism will never be the same once he gets older. He will need to add more into his game to last longer in the NBA. Otherwise, no team would want some old player who only knows how to dunk.

[boyptc]

Chicago was kind enough to let him retire peacefully. I hope he got smart with the money he got from playing and not end up broke with life after NBA.

Well, that's another case, I wish that he won't be the same as Allen Iverson after the retirement.

I guess that he has enough knowledge on how to deal with the next chapter of his life after his NBA career.

Best thing to do after retirement is putting up business to sustain the lifestyle they currently have. These NBA veterans probably has a financial advisor (if they choose to, and that's the wisest thing to do.)
I guess its easy for them to put up a basketball clinic and training camps for all ages, since they have played the best basketball league in the world. That idea will most likely to sell a lot.

Good idea.

Just like Yao Ming when he retired, he became an ambassador and that fits probably his now point of view. There will still be some opportunity for this retired veterans as long as they will allow their doors open.

[Chainsmokers]

In my opinion, Zion is not a good shooter. he can play with his style as it is now only with a lighter weight. because the current style with a hard dunk is very entertaining. I realize that his playing style does not suit his current body, it can make him injured. and in my opinion, the solution is he should reducing his weight.

Mate, that is why I said this in the first place

He should be fine for a couple of years of highly competitive games but his career will probably last less than 10 years if he is not going to change his playing style as he grows older.

Even if he loses his weight, his athleticism will never be the same once he gets older. He will need to add more into his game to last longer in the NBA. Otherwise, no team would want some old player who only knows how to dunk.

in my opinion Zion is too overated. with the spotlight and the news that only focus on him as a rookie and draft pick number 1, surely he has a heavy burden. I prefer Ja Morantcurrent style of play, he has good speed and effectiveness and is a good shooter.

[Ranly123]

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This is actually one weakness that I've thought about this kid. His knees won't be able to hold up with that body weight and those high jumps. He should be fine for a couple of years of highly competitive games but his career will probably last less than 10 years if he is not going to change his playing style as he grows older.

I disagree with you, the problem he has is his weight. he doesn't need to change the way he plays or his playing style. Well, one solution for Zion in order to have a long career is to lose weight so as not to hurt his legs again. Weighing now at 285 pounds, one of the toughest players in the NBA.

He will have to change his playing style once he loses his explosiveness or quickness to still become an effective player. Or do you still expect him to rely heavily on those aspects of his game after five years?

In my opinion, Zion is not a good shooter. he can play with his style as it is now only with a lighter weight. because the current style with a hard dunk is very entertaining.
I realize that his playing style does not suit his current body, it can make him injured. and in my opinion, the solution is he should reducing his weight.

The team management should be working on reducing his weight just like what you thought he should do. I believe that Zion Williamson has something in him that the Pelicans choose him as first overall and they should work on what lacking in him.

[freedomgo]

The team management should be working on reducing his weight just like what you thought he should do. I believe that Zion Williamson has something in him that the Pelicans choose him as first overall and they should work on what lacking in him.

Don't be so worried about that weight, Zion was known as zion for what he is and with that weight of his, he has a very good preseason stats.
It will not be easy to change everything, there's a lot of things to consider that only the trainer or his conditioning coach would know.

He will be back soon and we will see him play in the regular season.
With that said, I believe that Pelicans is a team that we should watch, they might not be in the playoffs but for sure they will try to compete.

[justdimin]

Zion is not "overrated", people who think media is excited about a number one overall pick gonna be beast thinks they mean pelicans drafted a Lebron or an MJ.

It is not like that, check out the last 10 years, there have been very few players who came out of number one overall pick that was as physically as talented as Zion, dude is a beast physically, he is not tall but definitely heavy and still can rebound and dunk very well. Sure, he can still get better by losing a bit weight and playing with a bit different styles instead of just explosiveness but that doesn't mean that he is not good, he is one of the best draft picks of the last 10 years and would totally be in top 20 pick in 5 to 10 years if he stays healthy.

Nobody thinks he is going to be hall of famer right away, or maybe ever, but considering there have been people picked at 13th spot playing better than 1st pick in some of those years, its a good feeling that pelicans picked the clear best of that draft, not "maybe" the best (Ayton going over Luka is a joke for example) but 100% the best in this draft.

[mich]

Breaking News! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/18/sports/basketball/zion-williamson-knee-injury.html
It looks like we have to postpone seeing Zion play at the start of the Regular Season week because he reportedly suffered a knee injury suffered during the preseason and is expected not playing for several weeks.

Horrible horrible news for New Orleans Pelicans and anyone who has Zion in their Fantasy League
Still think his kicks are nice looking 

[rosezionjohn]

I remember Zion getting injured before entering the NBA draft and this recent injury is not a good sign for NO. It's good that he is still young, his recovery will be much faster. The Pelicians medical team will be busy with him during the entire season as I see Zion getting more injuries during the regular season.

Talking about pre-season, I see not so popular names doing well. It's exciting to watch undrafted players showing what they can do.

Still think his kicks are nice looking

I like the kicks!

 

[spadormie]

Wow what a nice thread! I've been a fan of the golden state warriors since day one and for me the gameplay of the gsw becomes more aggressive and their defense become more tough than their previous games with other teams. I recently see Kevin Durant playing more better after he went on his serious physical injury. I believe that the golden state warriors will get again the finals and the trophy of the NBA season 20.

Probably you're a die-hard GS fan I'm sorry but, their chances are got low since Thompson got injured. Yes, you can see them play even harder but that's very usual since they lost two superstars and they need to change their plan of action inside the court. 

I remember Zion getting injured before entering the NBA draft and this recent injury is not a good sign for NO. It's good that he is still young, his recovery will be much faster. The Pelicians medical team will be busy with him during the entire season as I see Zion getting more injuries during the regular season. 

It's making sense now that some people are actually telling Zion as Greg Oden-like player. I hope he might not end up as him. He has more potential in him.

[rdbase]

In the other news, Zion Williamson will sit out last preseason game  against NY Knicks due sore knee.He is only 19 yo, i hope that Pelicans won't push him too hard in his first season, you gotta be careful with these kind of players.

Whether he adjust his playing style or he loses weight. His knee will not be able to withstand the pressure of the regular season if he keeps playing the way he does with his current weight. I do not want to see him turn into a top pick bust just because of injury. I want to see his full potential and what he can bring to NBA.

Check this video on why Zion has a high risk of injury. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGRnMIRCtDU

Nice explanation but his style of play is what makes him popular and became the number 1 in the latest draft pick.
I am pretty sure the Pelicans already understands that and if he will not play its full potential the pelicans would not get the full service from him.
All the teams who get the number 1 pick has a high hope that it will take the team to the playoffs and will remain to be a contender, so limiting him might not help the purpose.

Right, all they should do is on how to strengthen that knee to avoid brutal injury. 82 games in the regular season is not a joke for an NBA players. They should consider prioritizing their health if they want to have a long career. Just like LeBron, Zion Williamson should have a routine for himself to be always on top shape Everytime they play and avoid injury.

They really did push this kid to the limit in the preseason with 16.5 avg points per game and now they see he sustained a knee injury. Well this was a test to see how far he can play and how many minutes they can put him on the court until he reached his limit.
They now should know he isnt a fully mature player like lebron is who can be in each and every single game with topped out minutes played.

[spadormie]

They really did push this kid to the limit in the preseason with 16.5 avg points per game and now they see he sustained a knee injury. Well this was a test to see how far he can play and how many minutes they can put him on the court until he reached his limit.
They now should know he isnt a fully mature player like lebron is who can be in each and every single game with topped out minutes played.

Wait? During this whole time in preaseason, he's holding of an injury? Quite impressive on his part enduring an injury and still playing it hard for the fans. Why did the Pelicans forced him to play on that condition. I understand that they need to create a hype but, this is way too far.

[Rikafip]

In my opinion, Zion is not a good shooter. he can play with his style as it is now only with a lighter weight. because the current style with a hard dunk is very entertaining. I realize that his playing style does not suit his current body, it can make him injured. and in my opinion, the solution is he should reducing his weight.

Mate, that is why I said this in the first place

He should be fine for a couple of years of highly competitive games but his career will probably last less than 10 years if he is not going to change his playing style as he grows older.

Even if he loses his weight, his athleticism will never be the same once he gets older. He will need to add more into his game to last longer in the NBA. Otherwise, no team would want some old player who only knows how to dunk.

in my opinion Zion is too overated. with the spotlight and the news that only focus on him as a rookie and draft pick number 1, surely he has a heavy burden. I prefer Ja Morantcurrent style of play, he has good speed and effectiveness and is a good shooter.

Of course Zion Williamson  has the spotlight.He dominated college basketball, now he dominated preseason like  no rookie before, with 23.3 ppg while shooting 71.7% from the field so it's no wonder all this hype around him.
All he has to do now is to stay healthy, as he is obviously immensely talented.

[Golftech]

They really did push this kid to the limit in the preseason with 16.5 avg points per game and now they see he sustained a knee injury. Well this was a test to see how far he can play and how many minutes they can put him on the court until he reached his limit.
They now should know he isnt a fully mature player like lebron is who can be in each and every single game with topped out minutes played.

Wait? During this whole time in preaseason, he's holding of an injury? Quite impressive on his part enduring an injury and still playing it hard for the fans. Why did the Pelicans forced him to play on that condition. I understand that they need to create a hype but, this is way too far.

The kid wants to play and to send messages for his presence inside the  league. The injury needs to be well taken care of, the management have to give him long term treatment in order to maximize his stay. Advance medicine can take care of this injury they just need to rest him and make sure that he'll be able to stay healthy for the rest of his career and avoid major injuries that will keep him away from this industry.

[LogitechMouse]

Breaking News! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/18/sports/basketball/zion-williamson-knee-injury.html
It looks like we have to postpone seeing Zion play at the start of the Regular Season week because he reportedly suffered a knee injury suffered during the preseason and is expected not playing for several weeks.

His athleticism is very superb that his knees cannot hold his weight that is why Paul Pierce gave him an advice to lessen his weight as this is what he did too to maintain his body fit and not prone to injuries when he is playing with the Celtics.

I wish that he will recover soon because he played very well in the pre-season. Now he will miss few of their starting games so maybe the Pelicans' start will not that good or it will depend.

[Oasisman]

Well, Im a fan of superstars as well as those underrated players. Let me guess, Kobe fan?  or prime D.Rose?

Both but more of Kobe fan especially when they were always on the finals. And his legacy will forever be attached to the Lakers, I hope this time that the team can comeback as before because of their strong roster.

Though Im not the biggest fan of Kobe, but I cheered and bet on the Lakers way back when they had won the 3peat. I was so young back in the days when I remembered in a local sportsbar with my Dad looking for handicap bet. Then I was starting to admire Lebron in 2003 when the Cavs drafted him. Up until now Im a big Lebron fan lol.

[stadus]

Well, Im a fan of superstars as well as those underrated players. Let me guess, Kobe fan?  or prime D.Rose?

Both but more of Kobe fan especially when they were always on the finals. And his legacy will forever be attached to the Lakers, I hope this time that the team can comeback as before because of their strong roster.

Though Im not the biggest fan of Kobe, but I cheered and bet on the Lakers way back when they had won the 3peat. I was so young back in the days when I remembered in a local sportsbar with my Dad looking for handicap bet. Then I was starting to admire Lebron in 2003 when the Cavs drafted him. Up until now Im a big Lebron fan lol.

Lebon is no doubt the best player in the NBA in terms of consistency but I don't admire him when it comes in the playoffs or in the NBA finals as he cannot solely take his team to win a championship, of the times he became a champion, he was playing along with NBA stars, unlike Kobe that only needed Gasol and Odom to win an NBA championship.

I know we have different basis, and we have different teams that we really like, for me I like Kobe and there's non in the NBA now that could surpass him.