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November 17, 2020, 11:15:10 PM
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Let's see how Steve Nash will work for it. I just hope their good role players who played at their best when their superstars are not there will also be utilized too.

Dinwiddie will be the key factor.
Let the freaking 2 injury stars take their rest and just play 20 minutes per game and stay with the roleplayers chemistry.
Nash should not lean with KD and Kyrie.
Stretch on using roleplayers because they are really good.
 Allen, LeVert, Harris. Those names are now known with their hard work and efforts in playoffs.

It's not a tough competition in the East, so Durant and Kyrie can play with limited minutes without worrying on the team's standing. They just have their best player back in the game, that's a confidence booster for the team even though he is playing with limited minutes only.

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November 17, 2020, 11:21:38 PM
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It looks like the Suns will be going to use Booker only in the shooting guard position for the next season.

It should be. Booker is way better as a Shooting Guard rather than making plays.

Others might see Chris Paul isn't a good addition to their team but I see another way around. CP3 will surely a big help for setting up Booker in his favorite area, the three-point line. Not just that, CP3 might also be the key for making good plays at the paint with DeAndre Ayton.

Remember the last time Phoenix was in the spotlight? They have a good point guard, a center, and a bunch of perimeter shooters. Not that good as before (due to bench players) but has a chance to make it happen again.
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November 18, 2020, 04:13:08 AM
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It looks like the Suns will be going to use Booker only in the shooting guard position for the next season.

It should be. Booker is way better as a Shooting Guard rather than making plays.

Others might see Chris Paul isn't a good addition to their team but I see another way around. CP3 will surely a big help for setting up Booker in his favorite area, the three-point line. Not just that, CP3 might also be the key for making good plays at the paint with DeAndre Ayton.

Remember the last time Phoenix was in the spotlight? They have a good point guard, a center, and a bunch of perimeter shooters. Not that good as before (due to bench players) but has a chance to make it happen again.

I agree.  This would be the best team for cp3 to be on.  He is an insanely good lob point guard, ayton would turn into a nightly 25 point guy and the kick outs to booker wide open would only see his percentage go up.  Based on the last 8 games in the bubble add in cp3 and you have the suns which i can easily see as a top 4 team in the west.  Would represent in a nuggets type fashion.  Not flashy or as big as the LA teams but they'd win a TON of games.

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November 18, 2020, 07:05:34 AM
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It looks like the Suns will be going to use Booker only in the shooting guard position for the next season.

It should be. Booker is way better as a Shooting Guard rather than making plays.

Others might see Chris Paul isn't a good addition to their team but I see another way around. CP3 will surely a big help for setting up Booker in his favorite area, the three-point line. Not just that, CP3 might also be the key for making good plays at the paint with DeAndre Ayton.

Remember the last time Phoenix was in the spotlight? They have a good point guard, a center, and a bunch of perimeter shooters. Not that good as before (due to bench players) but has a chance to make it happen again.

I agree.  This would be the best team for cp3 to be on.  He is an insanely good lob point guard, ayton would turn into a nightly 25 point guy and the kick outs to booker wide open would only see his percentage go up.  Based on the last 8 games in the bubble add in cp3 and you have the suns which i can easily see as a top 4 team in the west.  Would represent in a nuggets type fashion.  Not flashy or as big as the LA teams but they'd win a TON of games.

Yeah, we totally forget how CP3 started the lob city when he was still playing at Clippers with DeAndre and Griffin as receiver and even at Houston with Clint Capella. And now with Phoenix, DeAndre Ayton will be the beneficiary of this many lobs coming from CP3 and I'm sure Phoenix will love to see this every game.

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November 18, 2020, 07:09:10 AM
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^^ Maybe they can co-exist like the Blazers, like Lillard and McCollum. Or Paul with handle the ball all the  time as their point guard and Booker as more on the scoring side and it will also take a lot from his shoulder the distribution load. So we might see Booker scoring advantage for next season increase by some margins. As compare to Harden and Westbrook who are pure scorer so it's really hard to put them on the same team.

Paul knows how to adjust we know that, wayback from the old clippers where he played alongside with Griffin. He knows how to adjust with his roles. Like how you compared with Blazers this two stars can co-exist as the 1-2 punch have a good advantage in terms of making points. Bookers shows great season from the last bubble.

With CP3 the load of playmaking will be remove from him, allowing him to focused from where he really good at. Booker will keep doing he's job with a good mentor veteran like CP3, it will be depends from how both players will adjust and try to meet both expectations  the results will favor the team.
Yes, that's what I'm saying, with Clippers though, he established himself as a point guard and with Phoenix he will be taking over that position from Booker but not in the bad position. It could better be like an upgrade, no offense to Booker but I think Paul is a better fit for the role as Phoenix point guard. So it's more on Booker adjusting his game and not the other way around for the benefit of the team.
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November 18, 2020, 07:34:38 AM
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I see that noone mentions Milwaukee Bucks and big moves they did on Monday/Tuesday

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30333660/sources-milwaukee-bucks-agree-deals-new-orleans-pelicans-jrue-holiday-sacramento-kings-bogdan-bogdanovic

First they sent George Hill, Eric Bledsoe and three first round picks to exchange for Jrue Holiday. After that they decided to go for another shooting guard (even tho Jrue is more of a PG) and acquired Bogdan Bogdanovic from Kings in exchange for Ersan Ilyasova, Donte DiVincenzo and D.J. Wilson. Jrue and Bogdanovic could compliment Giannis well, as having a pretty decent shooter as Bogdanovic will make more room for Giannis and his drives, while he will spread the court for them. On top of that, Jrue is an elite defender, and when you are aiming as high as Bucks, that is a must have.

They way I see it, since Giannis becomes unrestricted free agent next year and due Bucks fear of loosing him as it becomes more and more popular to sacrifice some money in exchange for title shot, they decided to go all in and will push for the this season's title.  I just hope this works,  Bucks reach the final so Giannis signs supermax contract next year. It would be shame to see once again "Anthony Davis" type of scenario, as it makes NBA less interesting when top talents are concentrated in few teams.



Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?

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November 18, 2020, 09:43:35 AM
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Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?

There is no reason not to be. This year they will appear as a very strong team. Bogdan Bogdanovic is one of the best players in NBA and Jrue Holiday also shows a very successful performance.
They played a good team game last season. If they can find a good team spirit this year, they can be a strong candidate for the championship Smiley Of course it all depends on Giannis Cheesy seem to have a chance with this newly created team, Giannis will be happy too

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November 18, 2020, 10:04:04 AM
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Harden indeed wants to chase a ring. Turning down a $50m/year contract means too obvious that he desperately needs to win a championship, and the focus was also obvious how serious and desperate he was on joining the Brooklyn Nets.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.

Imagine having Lakers - Nets finals in 2021. On one side LeBron-Davis-Kawhi and on the other side Harden-Durant-Irving.
I don't like teams getting 3 superstars but that's the usual basketball after 2010's. If we have to see big teams face each other then this is the clash I'd like to see in NBA.
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November 18, 2020, 10:47:39 AM
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Harden indeed wants to chase a ring. Turning down a $50m/year contract means too obvious that he desperately needs to win a championship, and the focus was also obvious how serious and desperate he was on joining the Brooklyn Nets.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.

Imagine having Lakers - Nets finals in 2021. On one side LeBron-Davis-Kawhi and on the other side Harden-Durant-Irving.
I don't like teams getting 3 superstars but that's the usual basketball after 2010's. If we have to see big teams face each other then this is the clash I'd like to see in NBA.

The question there is team chemistry since we cannot really say that it's a sure win for them or it's a sure final appearance if they take more superstar in their team, harden and durant are ball hogs so provably there's a big adjustment for them before we can see that game will happen in the finals.

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November 18, 2020, 11:08:50 AM
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Harden indeed wants to chase a ring. Turning down a $50m/year contract means too obvious that he desperately needs to win a championship, and the focus was also obvious how serious and desperate he was on joining the Brooklyn Nets.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.

Imagine having Lakers - Nets finals in 2021. On one side LeBron-Davis-Kawhi and on the other side Harden-Durant-Irving.
I don't like teams getting 3 superstars but that's the usual basketball after 2010's. If we have to see big teams face each other then this is the clash I'd like to see in NBA.

The question there is team chemistry since we cannot really say that it's a sure win for them or it's a sure final appearance if they take more superstar in their team, harden and durant are ball hogs so provably there's a big adjustment for them before we can see that game will happen in the finals.

Durant is not, he plays with what is the team's play, I don't know about Harden, but one thing I can say is that Durant is a good teammate as he won 2 championship with the GSW and he was the finals MVP that time if I'm not mistaken.

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November 18, 2020, 11:26:59 AM
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Harden indeed wants to chase a ring. Turning down a $50m/year contract means too obvious that he desperately needs to win a championship, and the focus was also obvious how serious and desperate he was on joining the Brooklyn Nets.
Well, If this happens, nobody can't deny they'll be an automatic NBA finals bound "IF" they stay healthy all throughout the regular and post season.

Imagine having Lakers - Nets finals in 2021. On one side LeBron-Davis-Kawhi and on the other side Harden-Durant-Irving.
I don't like teams getting 3 superstars but that's the usual basketball after 2010's. If we have to see big teams face each other then this is the clash I'd like to see in NBA.

The question there is team chemistry since we cannot really say that it's a sure win for them or it's a sure final appearance if they take more superstar in their team, harden and durant are ball hogs so provably there's a big adjustment for them before we can see that game will happen in the finals.

Durant is not, he plays with what is the team's play, I don't know about Harden, but one thing I can say is that Durant is a good teammate as he won 2 championship with the GSW and he was the finals MVP that time if I'm not mistaken.

It's because Steph Curry let Durant to lead the team, why Harden, we don't know if he can play second fiddle to Durant or even Irving. And we all know that Harden, as much as he is a good player and scorer, most of the time he doesn't work with other superstar in the team, i.e. CP3 or Westbrook.

And I'm sure that Durant will be the main point man for the Nets once he got back playing, so the adjustment is more on Harden. Will he developed to a different player when and if he goes to the Nets and let Durant take over?

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November 18, 2020, 12:05:34 PM
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Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?

There is no reason not to be. This year they will appear as a very strong team. Bogdan Bogdanovic is one of the best players in NBA and Jrue Holiday also shows a very successful performance.
They played a good team game last season. If they can find a good team spirit this year, they can be a strong candidate for the championship Smiley Of course it all depends on Giannis Cheesy seem to have a chance with this newly created team, Giannis will be happy too

This is a new combination of players for the bucks and looks like Giannis needs to make some adjustment to this new team. Overall, these guys are great. the trade season is still ongoing every approval and rejection feels exciting. I can see right now that most of the teams are carefully choosing their next rosters, they don't just approve some random trades. I wonder who will gonna go to the Lakers next?
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Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?

There is no reason not to be. This year they will appear as a very strong team. Bogdan Bogdanovic is one of the best players in NBA and Jrue Holiday also shows a very successful performance.
They played a good team game last season. If they can find a good team spirit this year, they can be a strong candidate for the championship Smiley Of course it all depends on Giannis Cheesy seem to have a chance with this newly created team, Giannis will be happy too

This is a new combination of players for the bucks and looks like Giannis needs to make some adjustment to this new team. Overall, these guys are great. the trade season is still ongoing every approval and rejection feels exciting. I can see right now that most of the teams are carefully choosing their next rosters, they don't just approve some random trades.
Bucks are looking for improvement, they can't be contented with just being the team with the best record in the regular season as the real battle is in the playoffs. One thing is sure, Giannis will stay but we don't know who are the players bucks would acquired in either signing them or through trade with bucks players.

I wonder who will gonna go to the Lakers next?


Will see, for sure more big news will be coming in the next few days.

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Harden at Nets would be weird honestly, none of the stars there are team players, they are not like warriors share the ball kind of people, they are really just bunch of ISO players that takes million dribbles and then shoot.
That's still a far speculation but it's pretty hilarious to think it that way I just hope that they do got the chemistry and it's not really just about the player's individuality but there are other factors to consider like coaching. Just what a turndown for the man that will get a historical $50M for a single season. Was Harden move a selfish one? But yeah it's just like Miami Heat with the big three superstars as well but this is more upgraded AFAIK on the Nets lineup.
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I see that noone mentions Milwaukee Bucks and big moves they did on Monday/Tuesday

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30333660/sources-milwaukee-bucks-agree-deals-new-orleans-pelicans-jrue-holiday-sacramento-kings-bogdan-bogdanovic

First they sent George Hill, Eric Bledsoe and three first round picks to exchange for Jrue Holiday. After that they decided to go for another shooting guard (even tho Jrue is more of a PG) and acquired Bogdan Bogdanovic from Kings in exchange for Ersan Ilyasova, Donte DiVincenzo and D.J. Wilson. Jrue and Bogdanovic could compliment Giannis well, as having a pretty decent shooter as Bogdanovic will make more room for Giannis and his drives, while he will spread the court for them. On top of that, Jrue is an elite defender, and when you are aiming as high as Bucks, that is a must have.

They way I see it, since Giannis becomes unrestricted free agent next year and due Bucks fear of loosing him as it becomes more and more popular to sacrifice some money in exchange for title shot, they decided to go all in and will push for the this season's title.  I just hope this works,  Bucks reach the final so Giannis signs supermax contract next year. It would be shame to see once again "Anthony Davis" type of scenario, as it makes NBA less interesting when top talents are concentrated in few teams.



Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?

I think that is a bit much.  If giannis bounces, those first round picks might be all lottery picks.  All for jrue holiday.  That is crazy.  I do get it though, its tough for Milwaukee to get free agents to come in to a lower market.  Most want to go to the larger markets like LA.  I just think they got fleeced on that one.

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I see that noone mentions Milwaukee Bucks and big moves they did on Monday/Tuesday

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30333660/sources-milwaukee-bucks-agree-deals-new-orleans-pelicans-jrue-holiday-sacramento-kings-bogdan-bogdanovic

First they sent George Hill, Eric Bledsoe and three first round picks to exchange for Jrue Holiday. After that they decided to go for another shooting guard (even tho Jrue is more of a PG) and acquired Bogdan Bogdanovic from Kings in exchange for Ersan Ilyasova, Donte DiVincenzo and D.J. Wilson. Jrue and Bogdanovic could compliment Giannis well, as having a pretty decent shooter as Bogdanovic will make more room for Giannis and his drives, while he will spread the court for them. On top of that, Jrue is an elite defender, and when you are aiming as high as Bucks, that is a must have.

They way I see it, since Giannis becomes unrestricted free agent next year and due Bucks fear of loosing him as it becomes more and more popular to sacrifice some money in exchange for title shot, they decided to go all in and will push for the this season's title.  I just hope this works,  Bucks reach the final so Giannis signs supermax contract next year. It would be shame to see once again "Anthony Davis" type of scenario, as it makes NBA less interesting when top talents are concentrated in few teams.



Thoughts? Do Bucks have what it takes this year to go for the title?
Great find Rikafip.
This is good news for the Bucks fans.

Jrue Holiday and Bogdan Bogdanovic.
Well, now Giannis will be forced to sign the max deal.  Grin It's like telling the monster they will feed him more with good meat.
I have no doubt about the two trades. Now, what they need is chemistry to make it work.
I hope they kept George Hill. Great defender.
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Today we got another rumor about Harden's trade.
 


Maybe the Celtics want to offload salary cap, and now they are trying to get rid of Walker and Hayward because both have a contract with a salary of ~$32 mln. for the 20/21 season.

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Bogdan Bogdanovic is one of the best players in NBA ...
Don't you think that you are exaggerating just a "little" bit? I mean, Bogdan is a decent player, but still far away from one of the players in NBA. In a contender team he could be 3rd or 4th string, not a first option that will carry a team, like all those those franchise players. Unless you mistaken Bogdan Bogdabovic with Bojan Bogdanovic which is a superior player and underrated too, but even though I am his fan I still wouldn't name him one of the best in the league.


I think that is a bit much.  If giannis bounces, those first round picks might be all lottery picks.  All for jrue holiday.  That is crazy.  I do get it though, its tough for Milwaukee to get free agents to come in to a lower market.  Most want to go to the larger markets like LA.  I just think they got fleeced on that one.
They did give a lot, but I think that was one of the requirement in order for Giannis to sign the new contract. Their hands are tied really, they are small market team and if they loose him they won't be able to attract another free agent of his caliber easily. Since they brought new players, I am pretty sure that Giannis signs supermax next year. Unless they get kicked out of playoff early or some other disaster, but chances for that happening are slim to none.


I hope they kept George Hill. Great defender.
Yeah he  is a good team player and would be a good backup for Jrue, but latter  is superior in every way. Jrue was in All-defensive first team in 2018 and all defensive 2nd team in 2019 so he knows thing or two about quality defense. Anyway, I hope this gamble works out for them.

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Don't you think that you are exaggerating just a "little" bit? I mean, Bogdan is a decent player, but still far away from one of the players in NBA. In a contender team he could be 3rd or 4th string, not a first option that will carry a team, like all those those franchise players. Unless you mistaken Bogdan Bogdabovic with Bojan Bogdanovic which is a superior player and underrated too, but even though I am his fan I still wouldn't name him one of the best in the league.

You are right, he is not in best players now. Not easy to play in NBA, we saw how Bogdanovic played in Europe. He had great victories in Euroleague matches along with team play.
NBA performance is not as high as I expected yet, but I am sure that his star will shine with a good team. You will see this year, when there are 2 players playing well next to him, he will do very well for the team Smiley


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I have totally missed the Lakers and OKC trade, Lakers got dennis schroder and they gave danny green and a first round pick this year. I do not know why they felt like Rondo was gone but they say that this trade was made thinking Rondo will decline the minimum offer on the table and will find a bigger deal with another team however I feel like they could have found a better deal for Danny green and a first then dennis schroder, obviously they are not going to get trae young type player but they could have done better or at least gotten someone younger at least so they could improve.

Hopefully with avery bradley back, and dennis schroder if they could keep rondo they could have a mean guard position rotation but it will always be weakest link in their roster when you consider lebron and AD at other parts.

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