2024 NBA Season

[erikoy]

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Why CP3? There are other playera too tha are good and can play roles like the rookie of Miami heat players did. I say they should train hard their players instead of spending or trading to something that is valuable player but expensive. In my own point of view if I can handle a team I'd rather let the staff and players work in the training and pay them with incentives rather than spending too much in a trade. They can motivate everyone because success never comes easy and that will take if either they work hard in training and also train them to play smartly.

[stadus]

This helps the warriors I guess because they are looking for a great shooters and Kelly Oubre has been an underrated offensive and defensive player.

Warriors Trade Rumors: Kelly Oubre Believed to Interest GS Ahead of NBA Draft

Phoenix Suns small forward Kelly Oubre is a potential trade target for the Golden State Warriors, according to ESPN's Nick Friedell.

"The name that keeps popping up when you talk to people is Kelly Oubre," Friedell said Wednesday on The Jump. "Can they get him in? What would they have to give up? They have the trade exception for Andre Iguodala as well that expires here in a little bit."

[Oasisman]

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If they are trading derozen then you can expect them to trade Aldridge too and completely rebuild trading for draft picks.  Sending derozen out for another player doesn't make sense, derozen is fine in the spurs scheme.

With respect to you, I don't see that, Spurs were much a better before Derozan, I was thinking the trade was good but we have already seen the result, his lack of winning mentality makes the Spurs suffer and he did that during the playoffs time, his average is a proof or evidence.

Derozan is just another Paul George. The kind of players who can't find a way to create an impact during off nights.
One thing I noticed that resembles both of them is the consistent piling of brick after brick shots, which makes their team suffer. Now, I'm starting to think that these players are overrated, or shall I say they aren't a good leader to lead a team.

[Finestream]

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If they are trading derozen then you can expect them to trade Aldridge too and completely rebuild trading for draft picks.  Sending derozen out for another player doesn't make sense, derozen is fine in the spurs scheme.

With respect to you, I don't see that, Spurs were much a better before Derozan, I was thinking the trade was good but we have already seen the result, his lack of winning mentality makes the Spurs suffer and he did that during the playoffs time, his average is a proof or evidence.

Derozan is just another Paul George. The kind of players who can't find a way to create an impact during off nights.
One thing I noticed that resembles both of them is the consistent piling of brick after brick shots, which makes their team suffer. Now, I'm starting to think that these players are overrated, or shall I say they aren't a good leader to lead a team.

Paul George only struggle during his time with the Clippers and I think due to personal problem with coach, maybe.. I don't know.
However, Derozan has been playing with the Spurs for like 2 or 3 seasons already? but he hasn't showed some consistency especially when he is needed the most.

PG have some great season with the OKC, he may struggle in a couple of games but he will be back, in fact, I expect him to be the same PG next season but DeRozan will be the same DeRozan as well. 

[Captain Corporate]

 Derozan is not a bad player at all, actually Spurs are not playing that bad neither, they are just a young team with 2 all-star level players and in todays league many teams have 2 superstars and not all-stars so its hard to compete in the west with such stacked teams. The problem spurs have is not the "quality" of the players they have, its the method those players play. For example defense is quite important for spurs system because they care about transition but you look at the defense of likes of Derozan and Lamarcus and Byrn Forbes and Patty mills and Marco Bellineli, all of which are great offensive players but they are below avarage on defense.

 So what Spurs need is not "better" players but more like players who are around the same level of talent but play differently, more 3&D is needed for them, and I believe the future could have that for them as well. Players like Dejounte and White and Lonnie and Keldon all could be decent players in the future, we don't know when that will happen or even if it will ever happen, but at that moment they will be great.

 If I wanted to trade Derozan, I would probably go with players who are great shooters and defenders and around 6'7 to 6'9 for Spurs so that they could put them in PF positions, that way they could run the 1-2-3 positions with their young players and play the 4th with the new talent and Center could be Jakop Poeltl and Lyes instead of Lamarcus.

[Reid]

Why CP3? There are other playera too tha are good and can play roles like the rookie of Miami heat players did. I say they should train hard their players instead of spending or trading to something that is valuable player but expensive. In my own point of view if I can handle a team I'd rather let the staff and players work in the training and pay them with incentives rather than spending too much in a trade. They can motivate everyone because success never comes easy and that will take if either they work hard in training and also train them to play smartly.

I don't quite understand where you are going here.
CP3 is the available player for trade. But because of his high salary, other teams cannot just take him.
It's his skills that are being paid for. If you train a new guy, it will take some time and that might be more expensive than getting a veteran which had been thru  ups and downs. He knows the drill and it can also help Embiid and Ben thru his knowledge.

If I wanted to trade Derozan, I would probably go with players who are great shooters and defenders and around 6'7 to 6'9 for Spurs so that they could put them in PF positions, that way they could run the 1-2-3 positions with their young players and play the 4th with the new talent and Center could be Jakop Poeltl and Lyes instead of Lamarcus.

Yeah, shooting guards might be their target now.
Pops is not the type to run a one-man team and I am guessing that is the case with DeRozan.
He needs to fill a lot of holes to make it a strong Spurs again.

[Pamadar]

Derozan is just another Paul George. The kind of players who can't find a way to create an impact during off nights.
One thing I noticed that resembles both of them is the consistent piling of brick after brick shots, which makes their team suffer. Now, I'm starting to think that these players are overrated, or shall I say they aren't a good leader to lead a team.

Sad truth, they rather keep on pushing than to let accept the off night and help with other role.

We seen lots of good stars who knows how to adjust when certain things call them, instead of keep shooting they will tend to play as
decoy and create plays for their teammates.
This Two superstars needs to learn and adjust from time to time, they are stars but they don't need tp push things up they rather bring
the boost for other players to stand up and share their talents to win the game.

[fullhdpixel]

Warriors will not be able to use number two draft pick properly that is obvious, they are not going to get someone who will change the team like crazy, it is going to be a rookie and it is going to take a time for that rookie to be even decent, this is not a year where the top draft could change a team suddenly, there is no Doncic or Trae or Zion in this draft hence that draft pick doesn't worth much.

On the other hand is it really Kelly Oubre that the highest offer could be? I am sure GM already let all the teams know that their second pick is up for grabs and teams must be providing some offers for such a good pick if they are far away and a young team like Suns. I feel like Wiggins + second pick could actually come down to someone that could be around all-star level and that is what they need, a player who is at all-star level and it is quite possible with Wiggins+second pick if you ask me.

[Sanitough]

Derozan is just another Paul George. The kind of players who can't find a way to create an impact during off nights.
One thing I noticed that resembles both of them is the consistent piling of brick after brick shots, which makes their team suffer. Now, I'm starting to think that these players are overrated, or shall I say they aren't a good leader to lead a team.

Sad truth, they rather keep on pushing than to let accept the off night and help with other role.

We seen lots of good stars who knows how to adjust when certain things call them, instead of keep shooting they will tend to play as
decoy and create plays for their teammates.
This Two superstars needs to learn and adjust from time to time, they are stars but they don't need tp push things up they rather bring
the boost for other players to stand up and share their talents to win the game.

Paul George will adjust, he was playing with Kawhi Leonard and that might have affected his style of play as he knows Kawhi is the main man of the team.

DeRozan's stats has really dropped compared to his stats with the Raptors.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/derozde01.html

While on PG we can understand that it dropped since he played in a team where there's lots of offensive players, they share the ball well compared with his time with the OKC.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/georgpa01.html

This kind of recognition on DeRozan might be forgotten by people due to his bad seasons with the Spurs.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2020/1/18/21071813/demar-derozan-record-michael-jordan

[boyptc]

Warriors will not be able to use number two draft pick properly that is obvious, they are not going to get someone who will change the team like crazy, it is going to be a rookie and it is going to take a time for that rookie to be even decent, this is not a year where the top draft could change a team suddenly, there is no Doncic or Trae or Zion in this draft hence that draft pick doesn't worth much.

I'd like to agree with this possible drafting decision of GSW. Probably other teams would focus to other veterans that can add power to their team.

Like the example of Melo. Almost no team wants to take him until the last minute then made the team got a good progress on the bubble.

[Russlenat]

Warriors will not be able to use number two draft pick properly that is obvious, they are not going to get someone who will change the team like crazy, it is going to be a rookie and it is going to take a time for that rookie to be even decent, this is not a year where the top draft could change a team suddenly, there is no Doncic or Trae or Zion in this draft hence that draft pick doesn't worth much.

I'd like to agree with this possible drafting decision of GSW. Probably other teams would focus to other veterans that can add power to their team.

Like the example of Melo. Almost no team wants to take him until the last minute then made the team got a good progress on the bubble.

We will see if Melo is really something helpful for the Blazers as last season the Blazers have struggle.
Now, they are complete, they got their Center back, so hopefully Melo, McCulum, and Lillard would be able to bring this team to the playoffs again.

I don't see any improvement when they don't give a good fight with the Lakers.
They got almost sweep by the defending champion now.

[Oasisman]

Derozan is just another Paul George. The kind of players who can't find a way to create an impact during off nights.
One thing I noticed that resembles both of them is the consistent piling of brick after brick shots, which makes their team suffer. Now, I'm starting to think that these players are overrated, or shall I say they aren't a good leader to lead a team.

Paul George only struggle during his time with the Clippers and I think due to personal problem with coach, maybe.. I don't know.
However, Derozan has been playing with the Spurs for like 2 or 3 seasons already? but he hasn't showed some consistency especially when he is needed the most.

PG have some great season with the OKC, he may struggle in a couple of games but he will be back, in fact, I expect him to be the same PG next season but DeRozan will be the same DeRozan as well. 

Well, I may reconsider Paul George as he suffered a major career ending injury, but he managed to overcome it and came back stronger minus the acrobatic dunks. But regardless all that, imo he hasn't showed a winning mentality.
While on the other hand, Derozan might gradually lost his value. He's slowly getting out of his prime. Though they had a good run while he's still with the Raptors, but maybe the Cavs are too much for them.

[Reid]

The coach becomes the assistant coach of his ex-player.
This is something weird but let's see what will happen.
Mike D'Antoni reunites with Steve Nash as Nets' assistant coach
New Brooklyn Nets coaching staff.
1. Head Coach - Steve Nash (former Suns 2-consecutive time season MVP)
2. Asst. Coach - Ime Udoka (former asst. coach of 76ers) - specialized in defense
3. Asst. Coach - Mike D'Antoni (former Rockets coach and Suns coach of Steve Nash) specialized in offense
4. Player Devt Assistant - Amar’e Stoudemire (former Suns played with Steve Nash and coached by D'Antoni)

Look at this Brooklyn team, they are now fully packed and ready for war.  

[stadus]

The coach becomes the assistant coach of his ex-player.
This is something weird but let's see what will happen.
Mike D'Antoni reunites with Steve Nash as Nets' assistant coach
New Brooklyn Nets coaching staff.
1. Head Coach - Steve Nash (former Suns 2-consecutive time season MVP)
2. Asst. Coach - Ime Udoka (former asst. coach of 76ers) - specialized in defense
3. Asst. Coach - Mike D'Antoni (former Rockets coach and Suns coach of Steve Nash) specialized in offense
4. Player Devt Assistant - Amar’e Stoudemire (former Suns played with Steve Nash and coached by D'Antoni)

Look at this Brooklyn team, they are now fully packed and ready for war.  

Wow, I like the coaching staff.

An assistant coach specialized in defense and they also got D'Antoni who specialized in offense, great combination.
It's Steve Nash first head coaching job, it must be a pressure on his side, hoping for his success here.

I remember Jason Kidd's first head coaching job, it was a success but later things weren't going at a good path.

[ultrloa]

The coach becomes the assistant coach of his ex-player.
This is something weird but let's see what will happen.
Mike D'Antoni reunites with Steve Nash as Nets' assistant coach
New Brooklyn Nets coaching staff.
1. Head Coach - Steve Nash (former Suns 2-consecutive time season MVP)
2. Asst. Coach - Ime Udoka (former asst. coach of 76ers) - specialized in defense
3. Asst. Coach - Mike D'Antoni (former Rockets coach and Suns coach of Steve Nash) specialized in offense
4. Player Devt Assistant - Amar’e Stoudemire (former Suns played with Steve Nash and coached by D'Antoni)

Look at this Brooklyn team, they are now fully packed and ready for war.  

Wow, I like the coaching staff.

An assistant coach specialized in defense and they also got D'Antoni who specialized in offense, great combination.
It's Steve Nash first head coaching job, it must be a pressure on his side, hoping for his success here.

I remember Jason Kidd's first head coaching job, it was a success but later things weren't going at a good path.

There's a pressure for Steve Nash since there are probabilities many will expect that he will bring a good experience on his team but this is not enough since even if Steve Nash is good on coaching but his rooster is trash still they cannot move on the higher spot next season so better to build a strong play off contender team and get those valuable free agents to  help their team on next season.

[Russlenat]

The coach becomes the assistant coach of his ex-player.
This is something weird but let's see what will happen.
Mike D'Antoni reunites with Steve Nash as Nets' assistant coach
New Brooklyn Nets coaching staff.
1. Head Coach - Steve Nash (former Suns 2-consecutive time season MVP)
2. Asst. Coach - Ime Udoka (former asst. coach of 76ers) - specialized in defense
3. Asst. Coach - Mike D'Antoni (former Rockets coach and Suns coach of Steve Nash) specialized in offense
4. Player Devt Assistant - Amar’e Stoudemire (former Suns played with Steve Nash and coached by D'Antoni)

Look at this Brooklyn team, they are now fully packed and ready for war.  

Wow, I like the coaching staff.

An assistant coach specialized in defense and they also got D'Antoni who specialized in offense, great combination.
It's Steve Nash first head coaching job, it must be a pressure on his side, hoping for his success here.

I remember Jason Kidd's first head coaching job, it was a success but later things weren't going at a good path.

There's a pressure for Steve Nash since there are probabilities many will expect that he will bring a good experience on his team but this is not enough since even if Steve Nash is good on coaching but his rooster is trash still they cannot move on the higher spot next season so better to build a strong play off contender team and get those valuable free agents to  help their team on next season.

Seriously, you think Brooklyn Nets is a Trash team?

Come on dude, they are now considered as one of the best teams in the NBA, they have Durant and Irving, remember.
They qualify to the playoffs last season IIRC, and they will be back again with their best players.

betting odds don't lie.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2021-nba-championship-odds-lakers-favorites-clippers-and-bucks-also-seen-as-contenders/

Nets rank at number 5 in terms of odds favorites to win the NBA Championship.

[Pamadar]

The coach becomes the assistant coach of his ex-player.
This is something weird but let's see what will happen.
Mike D'Antoni reunites with Steve Nash as Nets' assistant coach
New Brooklyn Nets coaching staff.
1. Head Coach - Steve Nash (former Suns 2-consecutive time season MVP)
2. Asst. Coach - Ime Udoka (former asst. coach of 76ers) - specialized in defense
3. Asst. Coach - Mike D'Antoni (former Rockets coach and Suns coach of Steve Nash) specialized in offense
4. Player Devt Assistant - Amar’e Stoudemire (former Suns played with Steve Nash and coached by D'Antoni)

Look at this Brooklyn team, they are now fully packed and ready for war.  

I like this one they are fully packed with the groups of friends  the personal engagements with each other will developing this team.

Announcers voices are now lingering back into my ears hearing that Nash - Stoudemire combo. We know how great the sun back then, with this two superstars, just can't push it up to win the title though since Spurs are also formed their own Big Three and they dominate that time. But now, reuniting with their former coach they will work to build this franchise with their two Superstars.

[freedomgo]

The coach becomes the assistant coach of his ex-player.
This is something weird but let's see what will happen.
Mike D'Antoni reunites with Steve Nash as Nets' assistant coach
New Brooklyn Nets coaching staff.
1. Head Coach - Steve Nash (former Suns 2-consecutive time season MVP)
2. Asst. Coach - Ime Udoka (former asst. coach of 76ers) - specialized in defense
3. Asst. Coach - Mike D'Antoni (former Rockets coach and Suns coach of Steve Nash) specialized in offense
4. Player Devt Assistant - Amar’e Stoudemire (former Suns played with Steve Nash and coached by D'Antoni)

Look at this Brooklyn team, they are now fully packed and ready for war.  

I like this one they are fully packed with the groups of friends  the personal engagements with each other will developing this team.

Announcers voices are now lingering back into my ears hearing that Nash - Stoudemire combo. We know how great the sun back then, with this two superstars, just can't push it up to win the title though since Spurs are also formed their own Big Three and they dominate that time. But now, reuniting with their former coach they will work to build this franchise with their two Superstars.

The coaching staff already have the chemistry, hopefully the players will also build the same.

Nets is a great team, they have veterans in the persons of Irving and Durant who can lead this team to the NBA Finals, that is provided both will stay healthy in the duration of the season, regular and off season. One star down will already bring a fall down to the team especially if its Durant, hopefully he has recovered well, if other players like PG did it, I believe he can as well.

For the next season, I expect that Brooklyn nets is going to be a team that is exciting to watch in the East.

[Captain Corporate]

 Everyone is incredibly hyped about all this Nets staff things but we are talking about staff here and not the players themselves. Of course staff is a big deal, of course when you have great coaches and great assistant coaches you do get better results but lets be honest players are the ones that make a team a good team. Look at Lakers for example they had Frank Vogel and he is not a great coach at all, he is not a horrible one neither and I find him decent but he is not a master class coach at all, yet they won a championship. Look at Pop on the other hand, dude has been awesome for 20+ years and finally couldn't make the playoffs. So at the end of the day staff of Nets could be as great as it gets but the players will be the ones that will make the difference. I think KD and Irving would be a good pairing but thats about it, they are not going to make it to anywhere further with just those two, they need one more star to get the load off.

[justdimin]

Lead assistant coach is Jacque Vaughn as well, I know many people talk about how Steve Nash is the head coach and how he got MDA to work with him as an assistant which will be awesome, MDA worked so hard for the past 20 years that he probably wants to take a little break and instead of just staying at home and going out to fishing which I believe is the ultimate "waiting to die" move, I guess he just wanted to continue working but lay off like 99% off the stress, and with Jac as the leading assistant coach MDA could even take days off whenever he wants to as well which will probably happen more frequently since he wants to have a relax year.

Also Tiago splitter is a player development coach there and they were looking to get barbosa as well so they are really filling the team up with staff this season.