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November 02, 2016, 11:47:31 AM
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In case you haven't found the link to the modlog elsewhere, this is it
https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php

Hey thanks for that!  The only other one like that is the SecLog page - got any other ones I can look at?
There are many such pages on BitcoinTalk. U may check http://bitcointalk.ninja/faq.php to find more. U may also check the list of threads created by an user using this page - http://bitcointalk.ninja/thread_list.php.

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November 02, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
Last edit: November 02, 2016, 03:13:30 PM by zazarb
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I'm just curious on how many hero's, legendary, etc.   If we could get number of all ranks that would be awesome just not sure if easy way or if this is a lot of work to get a breakdown of it.
Currently, according to the forum search (at this current time), there are this many of each rank:

Newbie - 158,492 (30*5283+2, source)
Jr. Member - 14,121 (30*470+21, source)
Member - 40,382 (30*1346+2, source)
Sr. Member - 4,612 (30*153+22, source)
Hero Member - 2,317 (30*77+7, source)
Legendary - 503 (30*16+23, source)

Total members with at least 1 post - 220,427
Total members with 0 posts - 448,864

E: More info
how dramatically changed the number of top ranks  just in 7 month  Smiley until autumn the number of Legendary members will double and reach 1000 Smiley

Hero Member -2792(30*93+2)
Legendary -837 (30*27+27)

hmm..my guess was not entirely accurate, It took wait almost until the end of autumn
while the number of Legendary(ordinary) topped 1000 (without vip, donator, administrators)

edit: quoted stats one year old and my post is not about that, if someone need stats in percentage, Straightforward math, divide actual number of rank count by ~900k
In Legendary rank case ~0.11%

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November 02, 2016, 02:40:25 PM
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I'm just curious on how many hero's, legendary, etc.   If we could get number of all ranks that would be awesome just not sure if easy way or if this is a lot of work to get a breakdown of it.
Currently, according to the forum search (at this current time), there are this many of each rank:

Newbie - 158,492 (30*5283+2, source)
Jr. Member - 14,121 (30*470+21, source)
Member - 40,382 (30*1346+2, source)
Sr. Member - 4,612 (30*153+22, source)
Hero Member - 2,317 (30*77+7, source)
Legendary - 503 (30*16+23, source)

Total members with at least 1 post - 220,427
Total members with 0 posts - 448,864

E: More info
how dramatically changed the number of top ranks  just in 7 month  Smiley until autumn the number of Legendary members will double and reach 1000 Smiley

Hero Member -2792(30*93+2)
Legendary -837 (30*27+27)

hmm..my guess was not entirely accurate, It took wait almost until the end of autumn
while the number of Legendary(ordinary) topped 1000 (without vip, donator, administrators)

These stats are not very representative. The data would be more useful if it was represented in relative terms (percentages) rather than in absolute numbers. That is, how many Legendary members are on the forum now in respect to other ranks and relative to the total number of members here, and how these proportions have been changing over time...

Anyone willing to calculate the ratios?

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November 02, 2016, 04:19:47 PM
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I guess I will be Legendary one day.
Hero member from a long time. Smiley

Is there anything particular I need to do..?

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November 02, 2016, 05:39:46 PM
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These stats are not very representative. The data would be more useful if it was represented in relative terms (percentages) rather than in absolute numbers. That is, how many Legendary members are on the forum now in respect to other ranks and relative to the total number of members here, and how these proportions have been changing over time...
I can't say I much agree with that part. What with the huge number of bots that register and post here, comparing the number of Legendary members to overall members wouldn't give an even less helpful number than what is already there. Regarding the rest, if I have time later I will consider calculating the ratios.

I guess I will be Legendary one day.
Hero member from a long time. Smiley

Is there anything particular I need to do..?
Continue to be active on the forum. As you can see here, the minimum activity for Legendary is 775. Considering you currently have 560, you have a minimum of 16 activity periods (32 weeks, ~7.3 months) before you qualify. Read the linked thread for more information.
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November 02, 2016, 06:09:57 PM
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These stats are not very representative. The data would be more useful if it was represented in relative terms (percentages) rather than in absolute numbers. That is, how many Legendary members are on the forum now in respect to other ranks and relative to the total number of members here, and how these proportions have been changing over time...
I can't say I much agree with that part. What with the huge number of bots that register and post here, comparing the number of Legendary members to overall members wouldn't give an even less helpful number than what is already there. Regarding the rest, if I have time later I will consider calculating the ratios

I never thought that it was possible to register here through a bot. Leaving that aside as impossible, how many bots have you personally seen posting here? I agree that there are a lot of shit posters on the forum posting the same crap over and over again, but I don't really think that bots are posting here, since what they might post would be totally out of whack and thus spotted, reported, and dealt with in less than no time. I guess you would need a very advanced bot to post coherently. Actually, an artificial intelligence of sorts...

And we are not there yet, by any means

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November 02, 2016, 06:19:27 PM
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I never thought that it was possible to register here through a bot. Leaving that aside as impossible, .... snip....

You never saw TimeLord's thread?
Spambots (backlink spam and whatnot) - ie Zombie Accounts TM  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1660106.0
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November 02, 2016, 06:43:09 PM
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I never thought that it was possible to register here through a bot. Leaving that aside as impossible, .... snip....

You never saw TimeLord's thread?
Spambots (backlink spam and whatnot) - ie Zombie Accounts TM  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1660106.0

Well... Somehow I thought that the forum was protected from this plague. And no, I didn't see that thread, I'm sort of new here, lol. Is it really so hard to make it next to impossible for bots to create those zombie accounts? I mean captcha codes, logic questions and things like that? I hope this issue has been dealt with properly if it really existed. Anyways, such accounts could be totally excluded from consideration...

Say, all accounts without a post history

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November 03, 2016, 10:43:47 AM
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Is it really so hard to make it next to impossible for bots to create those zombie accounts? I mean captcha codes, logic questions and things like that?
There are services online that bots can use to bypass captchas and such by getting humans to solve them for a small price (this is what the majority of captcha solving jobs in the Services section are). This is near impossible to stop, as it is essentially undetectable by a server (it looks just like a real user solved it). There is no real way to stop bots registering, the only way to beat them is through moderation.

I hope this issue has been dealt with properly if it really existed.
I feel the moderators do a very good job in stopping bots from making a mess of the forum, the fact that you didn't know they existed proves that. The vast majority (if not all) bot posts I see are deleted in under a minute.

Anyways, such accounts could be totally excluded from consideration...
Say, all accounts without a post history
That sounds better. It would still include the huge amount of shill accounts around the forum, but is probably one of the best estimates we can get of the whole population.
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November 03, 2016, 01:43:20 PM
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I hope this issue has been dealt with properly if it really existed.
I feel the moderators do a very good job in stopping bots from making a mess of the forum, the fact that you didn't know they existed proves that. The vast majority (if not all) bot posts I see are deleted in under a minute.

I really doubt that.

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November 03, 2016, 01:51:49 PM
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I really doubt that.
Just to be clear, I am talking about painfully obvious spam bots and their posts only. I know about the huge amount of shill/bot accounts that use profile information.

IIRC moderators run bots of their own to deal with consistent spambots which removes the post(s) fairly quickly. In addition, the livestream spam bots and others are all removed in a timely manor once reported - due mainly to the number of moderators on at a time.
Do you know of anything that says otherwise?
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I really doubt that.
Just to be clear, I am talking about painfully obvious spam bots and their posts only. I know about the huge amount of shill/bot accounts that use profile information.

IIRC moderators run bots of their own to deal with consistent spambots which removes the post(s) fairly quickly. In addition, the livestream spam bots and others are all removed in a timely manor once reported - due mainly to the number of moderators on at a time.

Do you know of anything that says otherwise?

Well... there is this post about two or three above yours on the same page...  Roll Eyes

I never thought that it was possible to register here through a bot. Leaving that aside as impossible, .... snip....

You never saw TimeLord2067's thread?
Spambots (backlink spam and whatnot) - ie Zombie Accounts TM  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1660106.0


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Yes. How many of the accounts there have made obvious spam posts? From what I can see, the majority of the linked thread is talking about profile information, not posts, which I already addressed.

Just to be clear, I am talking about painfully obvious spam bots and their posts only. I know about the huge amount of shill/bot accounts that use profile information.
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November 03, 2016, 02:29:29 PM
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I hope this issue has been dealt with properly if it really existed.
I feel the moderators do a very good job in stopping bots from making a mess of the forum, the fact that you didn't know they existed proves that. The vast majority (if not all) bot posts I see are deleted in under a minute

In fact, I know about their existence, but I've never met posts made by such bots here. And I'm dead sure that I would see these posts. If you doubt that, take into account that I reported a few users who had been copy-pasting my own posts (with minor changes) and as well saw a lot of posts that were close to original paraphrases of Internet articles. Your post count is substantially less than mine, so I get exposed to the forum in a far greater degree than you...

What is your total time logged in?

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I hope this issue has been dealt with properly if it really existed.
I feel the moderators do a very good job in stopping bots from making a mess of the forum, the fact that you didn't know they existed proves that. The vast majority (if not all) bot posts I see are deleted in under a minute

In fact, I know about their existence, but I've never met posts made by such bots here. And I'm dead sure that I would see these posts. If you doubt that, take into account that I reported a few users who had been copy-pasting my own posts (with minor changes) and as well saw a lot of posts that were close to original paraphrases of Internet articles. Your post count is substantially less than mine, so I get exposed to the forum in a far greater degree than you...

What is your total time logged in?
I have seen many of those bots posting those spam links. I usually nuke them. We have a bot that will nuke those posters automatically so they are gone within a few minutes, if not seconds, after posting. Additionally, the links they linked to were legitimate sites that got compromised in some way so I informed those sites and some of them have responded saying that they have taken care of the issue on their end. That probably has contributed to fewer posts of that sort.

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In fact, I know about their existence, but I've never met posts made by such bots here. And I'm dead sure that I would see these posts. If you doubt that, take into account that I reported a few users who had been copy-pasting my own posts (with minor changes) and as well saw a lot of posts that were close to original paraphrases of Internet articles.
I don't think that all accounts that do that are bots, even if some are. I expect that a fair amount of them are real users trying to spam up their post count by shitting on the forum. The same real users that come to Meta crying when they get banned.

Your post count is substantially less than mine, so I get exposed to the forum in a far greater degree than you...
I read a lot more than I write on the forum, so my post count is definitely not as high as it could be.

What is your total time logged in?
I passed 82 days recently. If you want an up to date number you can check my Stats page.
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November 03, 2016, 05:39:12 PM
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Guys, I think you are going away from the theme, Smiley
Topic essence about  the legendary rank accounts.

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Yes. How many of the accounts there have made obvious spam posts? From what I can see, the majority of the linked thread is talking about profile information, not posts, which I already addressed.

Just to be clear, I am talking about painfully obvious spam bots and their posts only. I know about the huge amount of shill/bot accounts that use profile information.

Too bad you cut out of your own quote of your own words the section I had highlighted to answer your question, instead making it seem as though you "had already answered the question" when in fact, no, you hadn't.

Interesting.

http://archive.is/sWcuD

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Too bad you cut out of your own quote of your own words the section I had highlighted to answer your question, instead making it seem as though you "had already answered the question" when in fact, no, you hadn't.
Are you dense or just trying to put me in a bad light?

Your post (the one you so nicely put in huge letters in a previous post) is reporting bots who use PROFILE INFORMATION (E.G the Website, Skype etc boxes found on the profile page) to spam backlinks and such. That is NOT relevant to the point I am trying to make. When I said 'In addition, the livestream spam bots and others are all removed in a timely manor once reported' I was referring to, as I was in every single other post of mine on that topic, the bot's POSTS. The user accounts, profile information, website (everything that you have in the linked thread) is irrelevant to the point I am trying to make.
How's about the question that you ignored, how many of the accounts on your thread have made obvious spam posts that weren't deleted quickly?

Please stop trying to make me look like I'm shady when you seemingly cannot understand basic sentences. The archive is also useless; I won't be editing or removing any of my posts here.
Also, my apologies for going off topic.
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Too bad you cut out of your own quote of your own words the section I had highlighted to answer your question, instead making it seem as though you "had already answered the question" when in fact, no, you hadn't.
Are you dense or just trying to put me in a bad light?

Your post (the one you so nicely put in huge letters in a previous post) is reporting bots who use PROFILE INFORMATION (E.G the Website, Skype etc boxes found on the profile page) to spam backlinks and such. That is NOT relevant to the point I am trying to make. When I said 'In addition, the livestream spam bots and others are all removed in a timely manor once reported' I was referring to, as I was in every single other post of mine on that topic, the bot's POSTS. The user accounts, profile information, website (everything that you have in the linked thread) is irrelevant to the point I am trying to make.
How's about the question that you ignored, how many of the accounts on your thread have made obvious spam posts that weren't deleted quickly?

Please stop trying to make me look like I'm shady when you seemingly cannot understand basic sentences. The archive is also useless; I won't be editing or removing any of my posts here.
Also, my apologies for going off topic.

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How's about the question that you ignored, how many of the accounts on your thread have made obvious spam posts that weren't deleted quickly?

Sorry, I didn't see your question - all the ones in red (or orange), so 100,000 UID's in red (or orange) multiplied by the number of posts they have made, so if it were ten posts per UID, then one million spam posts have been made that haven't been removed.

The list is incomplete, there could well be more, I've only been researching this for a couple of days.

To keep this on topic, people buy these accounts to short cut their way to becoming Legendary (in "one day" it takes to purchase said account) to then either cash in on a Signature Campaign or scam in the Currency Exchange section or similar sections "Trade with me - I can be trusted, I'm *Legendary*!"

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you seemingly cannot understand basic sentences

Oh dear... woe is me.

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