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April 21, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
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Is the amount for a MN still 10k?

Yes.
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April 22, 2017, 02:08:40 AM
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I was wondering why PIVX was crashing along with the BTC price rise.

So I just learned PIVX had a direct fiat pairing added (PIVX/CNY) back at April 20.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.msg18663009#msg18663009

That was not a good development IMO... it opens up PIVX to fiat arbitrage.
Like if BTC rises in price, they can get PIVX by BTC->CNY->PIVX in their market,
and dump it on our BTC/PIVX market for more BTC than they started with.

No wonder we lost the amazing stability in price PIVX had.
Back at 50-70k, PIVX was like a rock, I couldn't get any decently sized (>1 btc) buy order filled.
No one would sell to me, always had to buy off the sell books.
Red candles were paper thin.

And now it seems weak hands just won't run out, red candles always have a decent length on them.
I was wondering why we couldn't shake them out, everyone should've been hoarding for MNs.
Now I know it's probably fiat arbitrage.

The thing about having a fiat pairing, it permanently changes a currency.
Instead of being pegged to the BTC price, it becomes pegged to the FIAT (USD) price.
Since people will always be running arbitrage using the fiat markets.

So if BTC does a moon run to $5000 or something ridiculous,
you could always ride that moon rocket in another coin that has no fiat paired market.
The BTC price of the coin would probably remain unchanged.

But a currency with a fiat pairing will most likely stay at the current dollar value instead due to arbitrage
(i.e. in terms of BTC price, it would be crashing)
With a fiat pairing, you lose the ability to rise ALONG with bitcoin, the coin instead starts moving in contrast with it.

e.g. look at ARK, which probably doesn't have fiat paired markets yet.
It's stable as a rock despite BTC price rising.

On the other hand, look at PIVX on the Bittrex charts.
The crash started HARD on April 20 (the day the fiat pair was added)
http://i.imgur.com/sn6rZiv.png

Well... it's there now. And adoption is always good in the long term.
I just wish it was a BTC/PIVX pairing instead of a fiat one.
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April 22, 2017, 02:17:44 AM
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I was wondering why PIVX was crashing along with the BTC price rise.

So I just learned PIVX had a direct fiat pairing added (PIVX/CNY) back at April 20.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.msg18663009#msg18663009

That was not a good development IMO... it opens up PIVX to fiat arbitrage.
Like if BTC rises in price, they can get PIVX by BTC->CNY->PIVX in their market,
and dump it on our BTC/PIVX market for more BTC than they started with.

No wonder we lost the amazing stability in price PIVX had.
Back at 50-70k, PIVX was like a rock, I couldn't get any decently sized (>1 btc) buy order filled.
No one would sell to me, always had to buy off the sell books.
Red candles were paper thin.

And now it seems weak hands just won't run out, red candles always have a decent length on them.
I was wondering why we couldn't shake them out, everyone should've been hoarding for MNs.
Now I know it's probably fiat arbitrage.

The thing about having a fiat pairing, it permanently changes a currency.
Instead of being pegged to the BTC price, it becomes pegged to the FIAT (USD) price.
Since people will always be running arbitrage using the fiat markets.

So if BTC does a moon run to $5000 or something ridiculous,
you could always ride that moon rocket in another coin that has no fiat paired market.
The BTC price of the coin would probably remain unchanged.

But a currency with a fiat pairing will most likely stay at the current dollar value instead due to arbitrage
(i.e. in terms of BTC price, it would be crashing)
With a fiat pairing, you lose the ability to rise ALONG with bitcoin, the coin instead starts moving in contrast with it.

e.g. look at ARK, which probably doesn't have fiat paired markets yet.
It's stable as a rock despite BTC price rising.

On the other hand, look at PIVX on the Bittrex charts.
The crash started HARD on April 20 (the day the fiat pair was added)


Well... it's there now. And adoption is always good in the long term.
I just wish it was a BTC/PIVX pairing instead of a fiat one.

All interesting and none incorrect points.

I am also 99.9% convinced much of this has to do with the Polo delisting and snatching up cheap inventory to sell when adding PIVX.

Regardless, of short term price impact, the PIVX team needs to be focused long term, which is why this was the right move Smiley

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Last edit: April 22, 2017, 03:06:59 AM by cjbriere
 #7584

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April 22, 2017, 04:24:03 AM
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I was wondering why PIVX was crashing along with the BTC price rise.

So I just learned PIVX had a direct fiat pairing added (PIVX/CNY) back at April 20.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.msg18663009#msg18663009

That was not a good development IMO... it opens up PIVX to fiat arbitrage.
Like if BTC rises in price, they can get PIVX by BTC->CNY->PIVX in their market,
and dump it on our BTC/PIVX market for more BTC than they started with.
<snip>

COINBT.CC (PIVX/CNY pair) has a trade volume 352 CNY in past 24 hours according to the exchange.
That is a total of $52 USD. Previous days are less. So I don't think that could cause anything?

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April 22, 2017, 05:20:51 AM
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Oh, good to be proven wrong Cheesy

Well, that gives me more hope that we'll be shake off all these weak hands eventually, so being proven wrong here is welcome news to me. Cheesy
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April 22, 2017, 08:30:47 AM
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The trend changed to a downward trend. It would be nice to add margin trading, so we can short from current price.
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April 22, 2017, 05:25:42 PM
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The trend changed to a downward trend. It would be nice to add margin trading, so we can short from current price.
its just a whale moves as the de listing of coins are getting nearer those whales who have a lots of coins will try to bag more
as they knew that this coin have really good potentials to be added inside polo and after that price will move up again and
weak holders will start to cry.

 
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April 22, 2017, 06:10:05 PM
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PIVX is a longterm hold for me. I expect the price to be around 5-10 $ at the end of the year. What do you think?
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April 22, 2017, 09:56:55 PM
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I am new here and debating if I should make my first purchase of PIVX, I have read and like the project very much. Did anyone use the dip to buy some more?
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April 22, 2017, 10:34:05 PM
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PIVX is a longterm hold for me. I expect the price to be around 5-10 $ at the end of the year. What do you think?

$15-20 (Dash parity + crypto market growth)

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April 22, 2017, 11:35:01 PM
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April 23, 2017, 01:50:22 AM
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Yes, agree. PIVX had its time. It is sinking now. Time to get out. 1 dollar soon, then 50 cents. See you at 25 cents when I'll buy more. Good day mates.
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April 23, 2017, 02:07:29 AM
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Yes, agree. PIVX had its time. It is sinking now. Time to get out. 1 dollar soon, then 50 cents. See you at 25 cents when I'll buy more. Good day mates.

then wait after the progress rises up and the price went to 5$ you are so smart keep waiting for dumpers to full your bagholdings,
keep watching and expect more and more weak holders to panic and surely cry out loud when the movements start polo is just
almost a week away..




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April 23, 2017, 06:12:15 AM
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You guys can't seriously be thinking that this coin is hurting right now just because it had a 48 hour dip in price.  You need to look at the big picture:

-Got good press right off the bat with Coin Telegraph

-active dev with good reputation that puts in a lot of hours, and is fantastic with keeping the community in the loop with updates and answering questions

-solves a common criticism of Dash (the big dev premine) and improves on a currency techjnology that is gaining huge adoption.

-Has already ranked as high as #9 on CoinMarketcap.  That is incredible.

-Professional branding, good support, and quick bug fixes

-Go take a look at the Slack channel and Reddit. Reddit is highly active and Slack even more so, with HUNDREDS of new message every day.

-A LOT of the investors in this are investing in Masternodes and have 10000 coin tied up in every one of those, which mean the sell order books will be relatively thin most times.  And those with no masaternode are very active in staking.  And despite this it still maintains pretty good market volume.

-This polo mass delisting of 17 currencies is a huge win...look at the possible top crypto choices Polo could possibly add...you really don't thjink PIVX is in serious contention to be added when it is maintaining in or close to the Top 10 at coinmarketcap 99% of the time?  Come on, guys.  And that in-wallet Trex tyrading isn't going to stop Polo: money is money, and right now they are losing out on thousands of dollars every day.  Additional pressure will also be added as more rival exchanges add PIVX.

-As far as I am aware all of this has been achieved with very little marketing at this point.  Once we get these budget proposals and finances in order to do some serious work on this imagine what can be done.

-AND IMPORTANT!: don't forget: the price of BTC has been rising, so those graphs are somewhat deceiving, they would be going down even if the price stayed exactly the same.


Think of all the progress made in such a short amount of time guys.  I bought another 800ish PIVX today and felt amazingly confident about its future.  The huge price movement overall, the awesome large (and growing!) community, and rapid coin development, there are not many coins that have the momentum that PIVX does.  

I have been trading crypto since the days of BTC-e getting a measely 200k site volume.  I have seen a lot of coins come and go, lost money and made so much money at times I have had moments where I was literally in shock.  And I can see one thing: this coin has an even brighter future ahead of it.
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April 23, 2017, 07:03:33 AM
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Yes, agree. PIVX had its time. It is sinking now. Time to get out. 1 dollar soon, then 50 cents. See you at 25 cents when I'll buy more. Good day mates.

then wait after the progress rises up and the price went to 5$ you are so smart keep waiting for dumpers to full your bagholdings,
keep watching and expect more and more weak holders to panic and surely cry out loud when the movements start polo is just
almost a week away..

or u just dont care about the coin cost 1cent 50 cent 1 euro 5 euro in the near feature Wink buy every month a bit if u have money for it
if the devs make good marketing and have good function this and all coins with that will be in the future much higher just hold the coins and dont talk everyday the price go higher/lower thats bullshit^^
coins are the future!

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April 23, 2017, 07:06:50 AM
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Stackofdash nice reading. Dont get scared of people who are predicting 25 cents before this coin is going to be listed on polo....
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April 23, 2017, 07:29:11 AM
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a question i have ~770 pivx how long should it take to get stakes? i have the wallet over 1 week running and got nothing Sad
i need to buy more?

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April 23, 2017, 08:24:40 AM
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a question i have ~770 pivx how long should it take to get stakes? i have the wallet over 1 week running and got nothing Sad
i need to buy more?
You have to unlock your wallet too, it would only take 101 confirmations, which is muchhhh less than a week.
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Thanks man. Smiley   I think that we as a community need to come together and have a simple marketing plan that everyone can participate in with just a few minutes a day.  I have seen some ideas on Slack, but if folks could re-post here so everyone can see them it would help things along.  I have worked as a community organizer in activism in the past and would suggest the following as a direct plan of action, please use this post as a template that we update as contributions are made guys.  We can just do a simple Green = DONE and RED = NOT COMPLETED checklist system that is super simple and easy to see at a glance what needs to be done yet.  Once someone completes it, they can quote the tweet and mark it done and put their name in parenthesis.  Easy peasy! Smiley

First, some links to pre-filled tweets where people can just retweet and and a sentence of their own in 60 seconds or so.  Then once a day/week we can pick a new exchange, personality, news site, etc to target to get more coverage of PIVX.  Let's try top get a list of ideas, guys!  Every time a person completes the retweets/copy and paste a pre-typed comment on a Facebook link they quote the post and say "done" so that the action plan can continue to be seen on pretty much every page.  If the amount of posts gets out of hand we can retract the rule, but generally speaking I have seen this work with great success over many years:




CoolCool☼ ░▒▒▓▓██ TWITTER / SOCIAL MEDIA ACTION PLAN TWEETS FOR 3/23/17: ██▓▓▒▒░ ☼CoolCool☼  



1.   ________________   NOT COMPLETED

2.  ________________   NOT COMPLETED
 



CoolCool☼ ░▒▒▓▓██ EXCHANGES / COIN REQUEST: ██▓▓▒▒░ ☼CoolCool☼  



Links to ALL exchanges that have COIN REQUEST forms or voting pages or that you think we have a good chance of getting on.  I think we shouldn't mark these as "completed" until we have at LEAST 10 people complete the task.  I'll start with a contribution of my own, PIVX is ranking pretty highly on C-Cex right now, we could easily, easily get it to the top 10, it is already #20 out of what must be 400+ coins. I know C-Cex isn't the greatest exchange, but most of the coins on there are obscure coins, so it would make it to #1 volume there easily.  The vote system is $ = 1 vote, or you can vote as long as you have a .1 BTC balance.  If others want to contribute I will join in up to .02 BTC.


► C-CEX:   https://c-cex.com/?id=vote        ***NOT COMPLETED - IN PROGRESS: 10% complete*** (Stacks Of Dash, (ex: another user)

Those that know the Polo coin submission request form please post it and I will update the post!

► Polo PIVX coin request:  __________________   NOT COMPLETED

► LIQUI: support@liqui.io (not sure if they have a form, but this is a great new up and coming exchange that doesn't have that many coins yet, seems like a good opportunity.  Might be worth an email!)  NOT COMPLETED

► BTC-E: ___________ NOT COMPLETED

►Livecoin: According to this page, you can message support to ask for your coin to be added to voting (for FREE).  PIVX isn't added yet, so let's get it done peeps!  https://www.livecoin.net/en/coin-listing  NOT COMPLETED

If you guys can think of a few others that we have a decent chance of getting on please let me know.




CoolCool☼ ░▒▒▓▓██ RECENT NEWS/UPDATES: ██▓▓▒▒░ ☼CoolCool



Let's compile the most recent happenings into 2-4 bullet points so folks can see how PIVX is progressing and have quick access to links to spread the word to those who are not familiar with PIVX or that are criticizing it.  I'm not the best person to update this section, but here is a placeholder for the time being:


1) Mandatory update to *NEW* wallet v2.20: https://forum.pivx.org/t/pivx-wallet-2-2-0-release-mandatory/817

2)  ____________________  NOT COMPLETE, NEED ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS!

3)  ____________________  NOT COMPLETE, NEED ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS!




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This section should be things like photoshop-created promotional materials, current contest/signature campaigns, Youtube tutorials, translations, bug bounties, and any other type of crowdsourced guerilla marketing you guys can think of.  And if you really can't think of anything...memes.  Get on memegenerator and post your best stuff. I would highly encourage the dev to offer some small-medium bounties or other incentives to keep people motivated, consistently sharing content, and further growing the community.  But no matter what we need to always have at least one project AT ALL TIMES guys.  The PIVX community is already huge!  We have time to shoot the shit on Slack, so let's spend a little bit of that time helping PIVX reach new heights!  Remember, this is YOUR investment...don't you want to do everything in your power to grow as much as possible?  It means much more money for you, and a rise in value will afford a better budget to invest in developing this coin faster guys!


►►► **CURRENT PROJECT**:  ___ Let's think of one! ______   NOT COMPLETED!  IDEAS NEEDED.


Wow...that took a really long time to type, I am going to be sore tomorrow, ha ha.   But hey, time and effort s what it takes to succeed, so I am happy to contribute!

Let's do this guys! Cool Cool Cool
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