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April 13, 2017, 09:02:09 PM
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5000+ --> 160000   Cheesy not bad for me  Grin Time to buy again  Grin
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this rise is ridiculous ;-)
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April 13, 2017, 10:48:42 PM
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EleanorZ  Thanks again for answering.

First of all it's not DASH but PIVX that has put a DASH vs PIVX comparison on there website.
My arguments are going in against that, and I wanted to figure out how people thought about it. And I already concluded that lots of people fell for it

And what I have researched and concluded for myself(obviously reading PIVX whitepaper and so forth) Was that the marketing was the strongest selling point, and its mostly directly directed at DASH.
So as my final decision was to ask people on this PIVX forum, to perhaps break my conclusions. I could explain how this PIVX marketing works (I do if you want to but I am in no need to be called a troll Tongue)


Do I am certain I can not make you or many others change your minds to the economic fundamentals I know them and seen them unfold in crypto I do want to put my final info on the matter out here and leave it at that(economics is a soft science so it would be only logical that people will disagree to the end of times Tongue ):


Dash yes had an instamine, it was during a time crypto's where much more wild and they are currently silly things such as what accrued with DASH definitely accrued with allot of other coins.
Crypto where allot more buggy than they are now, coins exchanged hands quickly definitely buggy coins like DASH, even with worst case scenario's, the coin distribution coin not have ever been as bad as people thought.  If the instamine would have happend today, than yes dash would have been a failed project from the start. But hey nobody ever called bitcoin a instamine coin even do 1 milion coins are still in one address of the original creator a major red flag we all simply take for granted, LTC creator Charlie sold over 400.000 LTC as well for instance. Also lot and lots of coins got stolen in the past via various ways included the exchange collapses of both Mintpal and Crypty.

Much more reasearch on the matter can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzqGf_ak_2I
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/62jc3b/evan_duffield_has_no_more_than_256000_dash_and/
Dash Instamine Issue Clarification https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification
Instamine FAQ https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Legacy+FAQ#LegacyFAQ-WasDashInstamined
Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash? https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
My View: Dash’s Instamine Is Not A Problem http://fintekneeks.com/my-view-dashs-pre-mine-is-not-a-problem/
Deep technical analysis of the early mining and distribution https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg15619552#msg15619552
Confessions of a Instaminer Hashman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg18041424#msg18041424

Now than I compare that info to PIVX

1) Only a 100 day mining period which is what is a 100% fastmine compared to a 10% instamine
2) Masternodes and minting where the plan from day 1, aka which means creators will definitively not sell out straight way, and will keep running nodes, aka earning via selling masternode rewards.
3) POS is completely different from the POW fase, and you can not simply say that the distribution continued fairly from that point on, as the LOOT (AKA the masternodes where already firmly in the hands of a lucky few)  
4) Looking at market cap and what I could find out about the mining phase, it really does not to be heavily mined (looking at hash-rate)

I agree with you multiple coins should excised to fill up the differences, and i never said anything to contradict you on this either nor will I, but the think is in PIVX current shape and form it has not yet proven to do this, especially in the way the coin is presented in what its unique features are.

When in time PIVX will offer these differences than yes PIVX deserve its market-cap and much much more if these features are desirable to users, but that just it currently PIVX has not yet proven itself but has gained a massive market share, it can only be described that is mostly on the back of DASH, this can be seen looking at the charts, to my knowledge no big development updates have been given out that could explain this.

If in time PIVX and DASH will differ from each other than it all that ends well for the end users (use investors just have to deal with it either way)  

IF I find new info on the matter I''ll be sure to post here again. But fir now I'll  leave it at this for now, and let things cool of as some over zealous users are already taking offence to my questioning. ( I am a bit dyslectic so perhaps the fault somewhat lies with me)


  



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April 13, 2017, 11:25:34 PM
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a! and one more thing.. no premine, 0 ZERO... folks like the gentleman in prev comment had 4 master nodes sold for pennies it was his prerogative!

It is known that other people also have/had issues with coins being 'lost' or 'stuck' when PIVX was formerly known as DNET.

Whilst it was my prerogative to sell, just looking back at some parts of this thread is hardly very reassuring.

i made something wrong...my wallet.dat is corrupted same in the backup folder...cant salvagewallet and other commands...nothing working...coins gone i give up...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.msg16606698#msg16606698

What some here should know is that I hosted the majority of Tor addnode=.onion's for this coin. Over 80% of these nodes in fact;


11:55:01

getblockhash 260635


11:55:01

3442c235d521c637985ad71893f2c3744780928f7705404d00550c15c5ead769


Could you please share some of the nodes that you're connecting to? I'm stuck on block 260584.
I've got there resyncing from scratch (deleting everything except masternodes.conf and wallet.dat) and using this conf file:

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addnode=108.61.151.69
addnode=173.245.158.8
addnode=coin-server.com
addnode=185.86.151.173
addnode=185.86.149.212
addnode=dnetxef3rmouy5qo.onion:989
addnode=dnetxcvx4iqeunnk.onion:989
addnode=dnetxn4m5kfh4xhr.onion:989
addnode=dnetxu5edp35e4rm.onion:989
addnode=y5kcscnhpygvvnjn.onion:989
addnode=5bmhtjvn2jvwpiej.onion:989
addnode=pyfdxkazur3iib7y.onion:989
addnode=ok3ym5zy6m5klimk.onion:989
addnode=i6vpvzk2jxuqqs5f.onion:989
addnode=bgdhpb76fkbw5fmg.onion:989
addnode=gtlqzb5zbws5di7g.onion:989
addnode=f7j2m26rptm5f7af.onion:989
addnode=dnetzj6l4cvo2fxy.onion:989
addnode=s3v3n7xhqafg6sb7.onion:989

With only the nodes thata appear in Ops in this moment.

As well as the 4 DNET public Tor Relays. These nodes ran almost to capacity for months, however the benefits of hosting were outweighing the costs.

I was not online for a few months, the devs. unfortunately seemingly made no effort to contact myself about the re-brand. Despite myself having been actively in contact with them to provide detailed information on settings etc., for them to also host some of their own nodes.

We already know that the PIVX price has increased incredibly quickly (even in crypto terms) and therefore any opportunity to buy back-in has been more uncertain.

So, not that great here for some.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.msg18565332#msg18565332

Yeah man, stings a little bit considering we were here from the start but what can you do...well put up your address, not that anyone will donate but wtf. I would if the shoe was on the other foot but that's just the shibe in me living and doing it's thing. good luck everybody
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April 14, 2017, 12:17:45 AM
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EleanorZ  Thanks again for answering.

First of all it's not DASH but PIVX that has put a DASH vs PIVX comparison on there website.
My arguments are going in against that, and I wanted to figure out how people thought about it. And I already concluded that lots of people fell for it

And what I have researched and concluded for myself(obviously reading PIVX whitepaper and so forth) Was that the marketing was the strongest selling point, and its mostly directly directed at DASH.
So as my final decision was to ask people on this PIVX forum, to perhaps break my conclusions. I could explain how this PIVX marketing works (I do if you want to but I am in no need to be called a troll Tongue)


Do I am certain I can not make you or many others change your minds to the economic fundamentals I know them and seen them unfold in crypto I do want to put my final info on the matter out here and leave it at that(economics is a soft science so it would be only logical that people will disagree to the end of times Tongue ):


Dash yes had an instamine, it was during a time crypto's where much more wild and they are currently silly things such as what accrued with DASH definitely accrued with allot of other coins.
Crypto where allot more buggy than they are now, coins exchanged hands quickly definitely buggy coins like DASH, even with worst case scenario's, the coin distribution coin not have ever been as bad as people thought.  If the instamine would have happend today, than yes dash would have been a failed project from the start. But hey nobody ever called bitcoin a instamine coin even do 1 milion coins are still in one address of the original creator a major red flag we all simply take for granted, LTC creator Charlie sold over 400.000 LTC as well for instance. Also lot and lots of coins got stolen in the past via various ways included the exchange collapses of both Mintpal and Crypty.

Much more reasearch on the matter can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzqGf_ak_2I
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/62jc3b/evan_duffield_has_no_more_than_256000_dash_and/
Dash Instamine Issue Clarification https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification
Instamine FAQ https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Legacy+FAQ#LegacyFAQ-WasDashInstamined
Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash? https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
My View: Dash’s Instamine Is Not A Problem http://fintekneeks.com/my-view-dashs-pre-mine-is-not-a-problem/
Deep technical analysis of the early mining and distribution https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg15619552#msg15619552
Confessions of a Instaminer Hashman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg18041424#msg18041424

Now than I compare that info to PIVX

1) Only a 100 day mining period which is what is a 100% fastmine compared to a 10% instamine
2) Masternodes and minting where the plan from day 1, aka which means creators will definitively not sell out straight way, and will keep running nodes, aka earning via selling masternode rewards.
3) POS is completely different from the POW fase, and you can not simply say that the distribution continued fairly from that point on, as the LOOT (AKA the masternodes where already firmly in the hands of a lucky few)  
4) Looking at market cap and what I could find out about the mining phase, it really does not to be heavily mined (looking at hash-rate)

I agree with you multiple coins should excised to fill up the differences, and i never said anything to contradict you on this either nor will I, but the think is in PIVX current shape and form it has not yet proven to do this, especially in the way the coin is presented in what its unique features are.

When in time PIVX will offer these differences than yes PIVX deserve its market-cap and much much more if these features are desirable to users, but that just it currently PIVX has not yet proven itself but has gained a massive market share, it can only be described that is mostly on the back of DASH, this can be seen looking at the charts, to my knowledge no big development updates have been given out that could explain this.

If in time PIVX and DASH will differ from each other than it all that ends well for the end users (use investors just have to deal with it either way)  

IF I find new info on the matter I''ll be sure to post here again. But fir now I'll  leave it at this for now, and let things cool of as some over zealous users are already taking offence to my questioning. ( I am a bit dyslectic so perhaps the fault somewhat lies with me)


  







Man... just move on. Nobody here really cares what you think about Dash.
In case that you didn't noticed this is PIVX Forum, If you want to talk about Dash or even compare it to another coin just do it on the right place.
If you don't know where it is, I can help you, just follow the link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0
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April 14, 2017, 02:23:58 AM
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Anyways, I can definitely understand that PIVX is being put under the spotlight due to its recent price hike. perfectly acceptable.
But people need to realize that this did not happen overnight and out of thin air. PIVX isn't 2 months old nor is it just a copy coin.
A LOT of time & effort went into making this happen by devs, marketing team & the community. (I'm part of the "community" part)

For those who are new to PIVX and want a decent summary about PIVX, feel free to read my PIVX reference document: Wink
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14jL8KUAiKxB9rBS_Zj-Xc1MmmurpniwGcT-iLZ5na1g/edit

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April 14, 2017, 02:50:22 AM
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meanwhile Zeth has superior zk-snark tech and its marketcap is 1/1000th of PIVX: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0
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meanwhile Zeth has superior zk-snark tech and its marketcap is 1/1000th of PIVX: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0


please don't do this here, it is inappropriate thread, I wont issue bad or good comment, but simply don't cross post , thanks mate

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April 14, 2017, 03:09:25 AM
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meanwhile Zeth has superior zk-snark tech and its marketcap is 1/1000th of PIVX: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0


please don't do this here, it is inappropriate thread, I wont issue bad or good comment, but simply don't cross post , thanks mate
apollogies, i do also hold and support PIVX, did not mean to offend.
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meanwhile Zeth has superior zk-snark tech and its marketcap is 1/1000th of PIVX: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0


please don't do this here, it is inappropriate thread, I wont issue bad or good comment, but simply don't cross post , thanks mate
apollogies, i do also hold and support PIVX, did not mean to offend.

you didn't but it creates "noise" (cross posts does) people are smart enough to use search feature of BT and the announcement page

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April 14, 2017, 09:21:34 AM
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Hello
I have a question: Is there any reward for translating PIVX on transifex. I'm asking this coz is a lot of work to translate 1280 strings on there.
Thanks!
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April 14, 2017, 10:16:12 AM
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EleanorZ  Thanks again for answering.

First of all it's not DASH but PIVX that has put a DASH vs PIVX comparison on there website.
My arguments are going in against that, and I wanted to figure out how people thought about it. And I already concluded that lots of people fell for it

And what I have researched and concluded for myself(obviously reading PIVX whitepaper and so forth) Was that the marketing was the strongest selling point, and its mostly directly directed at DASH.
So as my final decision was to ask people on this PIVX forum, to perhaps break my conclusions. I could explain how this PIVX marketing works (I do if you want to but I am in no need to be called a troll Tongue)


Do I am certain I can not make you or many others change your minds to the economic fundamentals I know them and seen them unfold in crypto I do want to put my final info on the matter out here and leave it at that(economics is a soft science so it would be only logical that people will disagree to the end of times Tongue ):


Dash yes had an instamine, it was during a time crypto's where much more wild and they are currently silly things such as what accrued with DASH definitely accrued with allot of other coins.
Crypto where allot more buggy than they are now, coins exchanged hands quickly definitely buggy coins like DASH, even with worst case scenario's, the coin distribution coin not have ever been as bad as people thought.  If the instamine would have happend today, than yes dash would have been a failed project from the start. But hey nobody ever called bitcoin a instamine coin even do 1 milion coins are still in one address of the original creator a major red flag we all simply take for granted, LTC creator Charlie sold over 400.000 LTC as well for instance. Also lot and lots of coins got stolen in the past via various ways included the exchange collapses of both Mintpal and Crypty.

Much more reasearch on the matter can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzqGf_ak_2I
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/62jc3b/evan_duffield_has_no_more_than_256000_dash_and/
Dash Instamine Issue Clarification https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification
Instamine FAQ https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Legacy+FAQ#LegacyFAQ-WasDashInstamined
Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash? https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
My View: Dash’s Instamine Is Not A Problem http://fintekneeks.com/my-view-dashs-pre-mine-is-not-a-problem/
Deep technical analysis of the early mining and distribution https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg15619552#msg15619552
Confessions of a Instaminer Hashman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg18041424#msg18041424

Now than I compare that info to PIVX

1) Only a 100 day mining period which is what is a 100% fastmine compared to a 10% instamine
2) Masternodes and minting where the plan from day 1, aka which means creators will definitively not sell out straight way, and will keep running nodes, aka earning via selling masternode rewards.
3) POS is completely different from the POW fase, and you can not simply say that the distribution continued fairly from that point on, as the LOOT (AKA the masternodes where already firmly in the hands of a lucky few)  
4) Looking at market cap and what I could find out about the mining phase, it really does not to be heavily mined (looking at hash-rate)

I agree with you multiple coins should excised to fill up the differences, and i never said anything to contradict you on this either nor will I, but the think is in PIVX current shape and form it has not yet proven to do this, especially in the way the coin is presented in what its unique features are.

When in time PIVX will offer these differences than yes PIVX deserve its market-cap and much much more if these features are desirable to users, but that just it currently PIVX has not yet proven itself but has gained a massive market share, it can only be described that is mostly on the back of DASH, this can be seen looking at the charts, to my knowledge no big development updates have been given out that could explain this.

If in time PIVX and DASH will differ from each other than it all that ends well for the end users (use investors just have to deal with it either way)  

IF I find new info on the matter I''ll be sure to post here again. But fir now I'll  leave it at this for now, and let things cool of as some over zealous users are already taking offence to my questioning. ( I am a bit dyslectic so perhaps the fault somewhat lies with me)


  







Man... just move on. Nobody here really cares what you think about Dash.
In case that you didn't noticed this is PIVX Forum, If you want to talk about Dash or even compare it to another coin just do it on the right place.
If you don't know where it is, I can help you, just follow the link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0

I, for one, welcome this constructive criticism and I don't have a problem with many of the valid points expressed in that post at all. A bit of healthy discussion is good for everyone.
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April 14, 2017, 10:30:21 AM
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I don't really understand.. can someone explain what makes masternodes so great?
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for the ultimate core of all look no further that BTC blockchain C++ classes  Cheesy  it is not like we are solving cancer here maybe we will but indirectly via donations which some of PIVX owners actually do

also while people had 100 days of POW it was announced loud and clear everyone was aware no major farms engaged and despite all this some sold their coins for pennies soon there after

have a wonderful day!

and thanks for not crossposting technologies from other threads, it organizes things better, above post on some differentials absolutely cool to have all is transparent nothing its hidden

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April 14, 2017, 11:02:19 AM
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Really don´t know if darknet coin just "fail", if this is a sort of development switch or pivx is a continuation of the same project.
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I don't really understand.. can someone explain what makes masternodes so great?

over 2000 investors seems to think so , current snapshot of node count: Current Number of Masternodes: 2095 (unique IPs: 2095, IPv6: 1267, TOR: 428)

hence close to 2 mil USD has been invested and dedicated to running software outside of reach of the exchanges, on technical aspect of master nodes I would think white paper by dash even maybe would be good source

there is no patent on master nodes some other technologies have implemented them as of recent, it is rather important innovation in crypto but to say one has IP (intellectual Property) on em brings me to smiles

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April 14, 2017, 12:44:06 PM
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Congrats PIVX! You are the coin of the year!  Smiley

Guys how did you manage to grow this coin so incredibly? Can you share us your experience?
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Congrats PIVX! You are the coin of the year!  Smiley

Guys how did you manage to grow this coin so incredibly? Can you share us your experience?

i was here almost from beginning and what i have experienced: hard work, never give up on setback's, transparency, ignore bashers/haters, just keep it on do your thing no matter what happens Wink

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Congrats PIVX! You are the coin of the year!  Smiley

Guys how did you manage to grow this coin so incredibly? Can you share us your experience?

i was here almost from beginning and what i have experienced: hard work, never give up on setback's, transparency, ignore bashers/haters, just keep it on do your thing no matter what happens Wink

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nice!

Did PIVX also make a marketing?
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Congrats PIVX! You are the coin of the year!  Smiley

Guys how did you manage to grow this coin so incredibly? Can you share us your experience?

i was here almost from beginning and what i have experienced: hard work, never give up on setback's, transparency, ignore bashers/haters, just keep it on do your thing no matter what happens Wink

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nice!

Did PIVX also make a marketing?

a little bit so far, some articles here and there, tweets and some youtube stuff, you can finde some here
https://forum.pivx.org/c/articles-news

don't forget PIVX ist still young (~15 months) and one oft the key tech (the zerocoin protocol) ist not even released, so i guess it is a good idea to wait a bit for big marketing offensive

check the roadmap for things to come:
https://pivx.org/what-is-pivx/roadmap/

and other info on the "what is PIVX" section for more info

edit: maybe also check the PIVX Times: http://thepivxtimes.com/

cheers and have a nice easter weekend all  Cool
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