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October 19, 2016, 06:12:07 PM
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I think Fiat cannot be replaced by bitcoin because there's a lot of factors that needs to be consider.. once example is that bitcoin is not fully introduce around the world.. for now we have to enjoy the purpose of bitcoins.. who knows in the future. Maybe.

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October 19, 2016, 06:23:09 PM
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I think Fiat cannot be replaced by bitcoin because there's a lot of factors that needs to be consider.. once example is that bitcoin is not fully introduce around the world.. for now we have to enjoy the purpose of bitcoins.. who knows in the future. Maybe.
There is no chance that bitcoin can be replace fiat since fiat is our standard and permanent money that we can use locally.. bitcoin is just always alternative payment for online and i think if we will accept bitcoins locally it will stay as alternative currency payment..



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October 19, 2016, 06:23:35 PM
Last edit: October 19, 2016, 06:52:23 PM by xht
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i do agree that bitcoin cannot replace fiat. and that fiat cannot be completely eradicated and i don't see it happening anytime soon especially now when bitcoin is still under development.
but i do have hopes in the future that it can be used in daily life as easy as paper money.

I also believe that fiat will still be used. Many still do not know about Bitcoin. It will take much time to until Bitcoin becomes equal to a centralized exchange
Some might know bitcoin but we cannot expect that they will be interested with bitcoin, the fact that bitcoin is only good for online transaction it has only limited features, fiat are both for offline and online transaction so fiat is more dominant than bitcoin and it cannot be replace by bitcoin.
How about if in future we will do anything in online that would impact with reducing using fiat so bitcoin could be an option for them because with bitcoin transactions can be confirmed fast.

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October 19, 2016, 06:33:10 PM
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You are introducing a new technology and if you want people to use it you have to make a business case and people have to have an incentive to use it. As for the part about "people who believe they have the right to initiate violence against their fellow human beings" you sound like a weirdo and nobody is going to use Bitcoin because of that.
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October 19, 2016, 06:48:55 PM
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i do agree that bitcoin cannot replace fiat. and that fiat cannot be completely eradicated and i don't see it happening anytime soon especially now when bitcoin is still under development.
but i do have hopes in the future that it can be used in daily life as easy as paper money.

I also believe that fiat will still be used. Many still do not know about Bitcoin. It will take much time to until Bitcoin becomes equal to a centralized exchange
Some might know bitcoin but we cannot expect that they will be interested with bitcoin, the fact that bitcoin is only good for online transaction it has only limited features, fiat are both for offline and online transaction so fiat is more dominant than bitcoin and it cannot be replace by bitcoin.
How about if in future we will do anything online that would use fiat reduced not later bitcoin could be one of them because with bitcoin transactions can be confirmed fast.
There is no way that can be replace fiat bitcoin is just alternative and we can still use it as good currency online with their benefits and good performance.. for now there are few stores are locally are accepting bitcoin like on brazil..

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October 19, 2016, 08:09:50 PM
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i do agree that bitcoin cannot replace fiat. and that fiat cannot be completely eradicated and i don't see it happening anytime soon especially now when bitcoin is still under development.
but i do have hopes in the future that it can be used in daily life as easy as paper money.

I also believe that fiat will still be used. Many still do not know about Bitcoin. It will take much time to until Bitcoin becomes equal to a centralized exchange
Some might know bitcoin but we cannot expect that they will be interested with bitcoin, the fact that bitcoin is only good for online transaction it has only limited features, fiat are both for offline and online transaction so fiat is more dominant than bitcoin and it cannot be replace by bitcoin.
How about if in future we will do anything online that would use fiat reduced not later bitcoin could be one of them because with bitcoin transactions can be confirmed fast.
There is no way that can be replace fiat bitcoin is just alternative and we can still use it as good currency online with their benefits and good performance.. for now there are few stores are locally are accepting bitcoin like on brazil..
yeah it's highly unlikely that bitcoin would even have a chance to replace what we've already grown accustomed to. the fiat systems been there for anyone can remember and i don't think anything would be able to replace that. well not in the near future that is. it's likely that bitcoin, in a couple of years, would be more widely used but the fiat still would be the main currency around the world


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November 19, 2016, 05:59:53 PM
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i do agree that bitcoin cannot replace fiat. and that fiat cannot be completely eradicated and i don't see it happening anytime soon especially now when bitcoin is still under development.
but i do have hopes in the future that it can be used in daily life as easy as paper money.

I also believe that fiat will still be used. Many still do not know about Bitcoin. It will take much time to until Bitcoin becomes equal to a centralized exchange
Some might know bitcoin but we cannot expect that they will be interested with bitcoin, the fact that bitcoin is only good for online transaction it has only limited features, fiat are both for offline and online transaction so fiat is more dominant than bitcoin and it cannot be replace by bitcoin.
How about if in future we will do anything online that would use fiat reduced not later bitcoin could be one of them because with bitcoin transactions can be confirmed fast.
There is no way that can be replace fiat bitcoin is just alternative and we can still use it as good currency online with their benefits and good performance.. for now there are few stores are locally are accepting bitcoin like on brazil..

The bitcoin is still not popular at the monent. Not many people are using it. If most governments recognise it, it might replace fiat.

 
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November 19, 2016, 07:03:00 PM
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The bitcoin is still not popular at the monent. Not many people are using it. If most governments recognise it, it might replace fiat.

The governments is not stupid, they will not give authority to bitcoin to replace their fiat, although their country condition at inflation, if you know greece case when their fiat collapsed, they using bitcoin for an alternative currency just for a while.
The govs is can not controling bitcoin(this is what they hated).
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November 19, 2016, 07:14:09 PM
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Yes, got you intrigued, didn't it?

Bitcoin is a very good thing to have as an asset. Just like gold. Even better if I may say. It's secure, and unlike fiat money it actually exists and work is put into it to produce it. This makes it great to store value.
However, it cannot and will not replace current fiat money that the entire world it using. It just cannot.
Take paying a cup of coffee for example. To pay your coffee with bitcoins, one must get bitcoins first, either by mining or buying bitcoins with other kinds of money (*cough*fiat*cough). It ends up being a quite complicated process, don't you think?
Until we reach the point where paying for a cup of coffee is as easy with Bitcoin as it is with cash, we will never get mass adoption. And as far as I see it, there is no way of simplifying the acquiring of bitcoins.
Ofcourse bitcoin can't replace fiat because the main reason is that everyone here is only for fiat currency . And i also thinks that only one way to use our money fully , the money should be in fiat .
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November 19, 2016, 10:15:45 PM
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Btcs volatility is the main problem. In a deflationary state, where the value of Btc rises, people will tend not to spend their coins as they would get more a day/week/year later. That transition from asset to currency might be too difficult for mass adoption.
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November 20, 2016, 01:29:54 AM
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Btcs volatility is the main problem. In a deflationary state, where the value of Btc rises, people will tend not to spend their coins as they would get more a day/week/year later. That transition from asset to currency might be too difficult for mass adoption.

Time will come bitcoin will be stable if people are using it and government will regulate it, for now, let's enjoy the fun of making money out from fluctuation.

Ofcourse bitcoin can't replace fiat because the main reason is that everyone here is only for fiat currency . And i also thinks that only one way to use our money fully , the money should be in fiat .


It can't because it solely relies its value.

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November 20, 2016, 08:24:15 AM
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Bitcoin cannot replace fiat, as long as taxes have to be paid in fiat.
That will probably be the last hurdle to fall.
Otherwise, we can have a bitcoin economy slowly develop.  Smiley
as the number of bitcoin users are very low still very little number of people know about bitcoin as in my area when i started using bitcoin a few number of people were using bitcoin, but now the number the number is increasing from time to time, but i think majority of bitcoin users are still using bitcoin as secondary currency and they also mostly depending on fiat, therefore it is not possible in near future that bitcoin will replace fiat.

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November 20, 2016, 08:28:30 AM
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It would be a horrible dream if all the people "investing " in their hordes of bitcoin would one day find there is no fiat anymore and everything is done with bitcoins.

As they wouldn't be special anymore.Wink

Then some crazy Japanese in the future would create the notion of physical, paper money and it will be all the rave. I paper money worth 10000 btc.

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November 20, 2016, 01:02:23 PM
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However if one already owns bitcoins, this problem that you have becomes non-existent.

Yes, but what I am talking about is mass adoption. I don't see my grandmother owning BTC.

Yes,bitcoin will never fully replace fiat,but it`s a good alternative.

Bitcoin mass adoption is just a dream,unfortunately.

I don`t think that we need a really "mass" adoption.


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November 20, 2016, 01:12:23 PM
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However if one already owns bitcoins, this problem that you have becomes non-existent.

Yes, but what I am talking about is mass adoption. I don't see my grandmother owning BTC.

Yes,bitcoin will never fully replace fiat,but it`s a good alternative.

Bitcoin mass adoption is just a dream,unfortunately.

I don`t think that we need a really "mass" adoption.




Bitcoin can be a giant on the internet however it won't have usage in the real world.

It's hard to convince people to change their system, maybe just a crisis to make the coin be more acceptable.
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November 20, 2016, 01:53:03 PM
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Bitcoin can not replace fiat because bitcoin is can be spend only in online and it has no  real coin to spend offline while fiat is traditional currency which every body can used it any where we want.
But anyone has a smartphone now and can easily connect to the internet almost anywhere. I don't think bitcoin transactions being done online is a problem anymore. You can just meetup in a coffee shop or anywhere that has WiFi if you want to use bitcoin to pay someone. Even though, you're still correct. Fiat will still be used by everyone because it's the traditional currency. People just dislike replacing a traditional one by a new one unless the traditional one gives them discomfort or something.

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November 20, 2016, 02:14:16 PM
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Btcs volatility is the main problem. In a deflationary state, where the value of Btc rises, people will tend not to spend their coins as they would get more a day/week/year later. That transition from asset to currency might be too difficult for mass adoption.

I have to agree with that, though I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with this state of affairs. I often say it myself that Bitcoin right now is rather a financial asset than a currency. But as long as its price increases, it doesn't really matter since it still gains value. Whether this gain comes through speculation (i.e. Bitcoin being used as a financial asset) or through its use as a currency (i.e. Bitcoin being used as a means of payment) would be inconsequential in the end. When the price growth potential of Bitcoin gets exhausted in due course, the volatility will decrease as well...

And this may celebrate the change in Bitcoin use from a speculative asset toward a means of payment, i.e. currency

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November 20, 2016, 03:15:57 PM
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Bitcoin can not replace fiat because bitcoin is can be spend only in online and it has no  real coin to spend offline while fiat is traditional currency which every body can used it any where we want.
bitcoin can only replace fiat if all the people of the world start using bitcoin, and every one has the faciliities to buy everything in their local shops using bitcoin and all the other services which fiat are providing us can also be provided by bitcoin then bitcoin can really replace fiat.

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November 20, 2016, 03:32:13 PM
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Bitcoin can not replace fiat because bitcoin is can be spend only in online and it has no  real coin to spend offline while fiat is traditional currency which every body can used it any where we want.

Yeah bitcoin needs basic knowledge of internet to use it as it doesn't have a paper form as our fiat currencies that we use in our daily life. Fiat doesn't need any technology knowledge to use it, also can be used offline which is the major reason why fiat is much used. So bitcoin replacing is not possible.

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Bitcoin can not replace fiat because bitcoin is can be spend only in online and it has no  real coin to spend offline while fiat is traditional currency which every body can used it any where we want.
bitcoin can only replace fiat if all the people of the world start using bitcoin, and every one has the faciliities to buy everything in their local shops using bitcoin and all the other services which fiat are providing us can also be provided by bitcoin then bitcoin can really replace fiat.
It could be possible and it may take a lot of years before it does and world leaders should approve bitcoins as a legal currency and will introduce world wide.. and that really takes a lot of work to do that.

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