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Hypothetically.. if I own 2 million lisk. And I create 33 separate accounts with nodes off 1 computer. Then vote for my nodes.. then I am going to secure all of them with the weight of my vote. I'm not a pessimist but I doubt even 60% of people in the ICO will vote.
If I am right and this can happen.. it almost definitely will happen because of greed. But it doesn't help secure the network. Please revise your plans on delegates and come up with a better formula. I said it before about having a calculation involved when it comes to voting.
That only assumes that the 2% of coins you're talking about is the biggest stack. If there are 10 people with stacks in the 2-5 million and they all do the same thing, it really negates all of them. Plus there are thousands of people with 10,000 or less coins which added all up are more weight than just one person with 2% of the coins. and if your answer is lazy people wont vote! My answer is how the fuck do you know? It's all guesses based off of narrow circumstances that need specific types of things to happen in order to be successful. Some people won't vote cos some investors honestly won't give a shit. They will have bought their lisk in ICO and will jus sit on it for years without a care about the network at all. Secondly. Ok so I said 2 million as an example. Let's say someone with 5 million does it. 33 nodes with a weight of 5 million each. Its gona take a hell of a lot of votes from people with 10k stacks to overtake them. I'm only bringing this up cos I want it fair for everyone. Not just the rich getting richer without caring about development of dapps! Did you pick those 2 million & 5 million Lisk figures randomly? Because that's exactly how much Lisk is going to those investors who invested 300 BTC & 1000 BTC at the ICO. How much will they be making everyday with 33 nodes each?
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LiskCryptoFan
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March 29, 2016, 01:35:44 AM |
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https://youtu.be/_90Y8mw_HVYThis is an interesting real life user experience of using Ethereum based Smart contracts as a services. I would also like to add how user friendly LISK will be. BTW Cannabanana I really appreciate your humor and your responses! They tend to bring a smile and a much needed laugh. https://youtu.be/_90Y8mw_HVY ya that's why eth in my opinion is just hype sure u can get a company to make a smart contract (notice the daily decrypt wasent able to do it themselves) but USING IT is another story ETH IS A SCAM , just hype Maybe not calling other projects scams in the Lisk thread might be a better approach to attracting other community members.
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March 29, 2016, 01:37:13 AM |
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validated mine, easy peasy.
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LiskCryptoFan
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March 29, 2016, 01:46:21 AM |
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how many times do we have to validate??
Once per exchange. Do you have an estimate when Lisk is announcing which upcoming Bitcoin and/or Fintech conferences the group will be attending?
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rocketron
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March 29, 2016, 02:10:03 AM |
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Do i have to validate my keys?
I generated and backed them up before the ico ended. Now i need to validate?
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March 29, 2016, 02:39:44 AM |
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I hope Lisk will grow. Time will tell, however Decentralized Apps with Javascript (node.js) sounds new and amazing technology software !
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rezilient
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March 29, 2016, 03:21:29 AM |
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I call bullshit if they are going to sell immediately, it would be better if they have gambled their money in a casino. I dont trust anyone in the Internet, so fuck you.
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You don't pay enough.
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Bigcabrito
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March 29, 2016, 03:37:47 AM |
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how many times do we have to validate??
Once per exchange. Do you have an estimate when Lisk is announcing which upcoming Bitcoin and/or Fintech conferences the group will be attending? They have not spoken to me concerning this. Max is swamped with interviews and meetings for growing the team, and Oliver is preparing the network for the official launch. They are quite busy right now, I'm not sure if they will have time to prepare for a conference at such an early stage. Do i have to validate my keys?
I generated and backed them up before the ico ended. Now i need to validate?
We are encouraging everyone to validate their keys. You will be helping the devs on a smoother launch since the validated keys are being recorded into the system.
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March 29, 2016, 03:42:36 AM |
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Guide for Verifying your KeysWe are encouraging everyone to validate their keys, so I have created a very simple guide you can follow for verifying the keys. By validating your passphrases you will contribute in making the launch of Lisk smoother. We suggest everyone to verify their generated keys, the more we have verified, the better. Thanks! Joel
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March 29, 2016, 03:47:07 AM |
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Guide for Verifying your KeysWe are encouraging everyone to validate their keys, so I have created a very simple guide you can follow for verifying the keys. By validating your passphrases you will contribute in making the launch of Lisk smoother. We suggest everyone to verify their generated keys, the more we have verified, the better. Thanks! Joel What happens if we don't? I'm comfortable with my keys stored offline.
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CjMapope
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March 29, 2016, 03:56:03 AM |
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Guide for Verifying your KeysWe are encouraging everyone to validate their keys, so I have created a very simple guide you can follow for verifying the keys. By validating your passphrases you will contribute in making the launch of Lisk smoother. We suggest everyone to verify their generated keys, the more we have verified, the better. Thanks! Joel What happens if we don't? I'm comfortable with my keys stored offline. nothing its strickily an option and to let liskhq know as a hard number which are validated but no worry man completely optional, you can keep your keys offline and have no prob, as long as their the right keys
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March 29, 2016, 04:05:28 AM |
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You should still generate and download your keys though!
Just want to make sure people don't confuse generating and validating - two completely different things.
GENERATE YOUR KEYS!!! And to LiskHQ - can you give a report as to how many have actually generated their keys?
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March 29, 2016, 04:07:38 AM |
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Hi Lisker's, I worked a lot on the testnet node and it's working good, I also updated my active delegate anon and current voting list. use the link in my signature if your interested to see latest version. You can also PM me if your not in the list.
All my keys are generated and validated ! You don't ? DO IT NOW!
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March 29, 2016, 04:24:23 AM |
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I have seen a lot of comparison of Ethereum and Lisk as competitors but instead see them forming different parts of a larger integrated network. - Ethereum, with its massive parallel redundancy and decentralized consensus, would function as the brain.
- Lisk, with its speed and scalability, functions as the central nervous system. The main Lisk chain is the spinal cord and dapps branch off recursively as chains with other dapps as subchains, acting like nerve bundles and ganglia in an internet of chains integrated with high level IoT devices.
- Iota is like the peripheral nerves, extending the reach of the network into the smallest of IoT devices with its ability to run on very small units with limited CPU and memory resources.
It would make sense for all three projects to partner and coordinate integration among them.
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March 29, 2016, 05:00:47 AM |
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I have seen a lot of comparison of Ethereum and Lisk as competitors but instead see them forming different parts of a larger integrated network. - Ethereum, with its massive parallel redundancy and decentralized consensus, would function as the brain.
- Lisk, with its speed and scalability, functions as the central nervous system. The main Lisk chain is the spinal cord and dapps branch off recursively as chains with other dapps as subchains, acting like nerve bundles and ganglia in an internet of chains integrated with high level IoT devices.
- Iota is like the peripheral nerves, extending the reach of the network into the smallest of IoT devices with its ability to run on very small units with limited CPU and memory resources.
It would make sense for all three projects to partner and coordinate integration among them. I like the analogy. United we stand, divided we fall. Teamwork works ya'll. see my opinion is different. i have attempted to actually USE eth for months, unable to like everyone else. its a scam made by a super smart guy (vitalik was a mathmatician) eth is full of holes, solidarity is broken as shit my opinion is LISK should rally against eth, to show how eth abandoned the community and how DAPPS can be done without total greed and hype LISK WILL EAT ETH plain and simple eth is a joke, and now lisk will take the market cap those who wanna make cash like we did with eth come on over
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March 29, 2016, 05:03:31 AM |
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I have seen a lot of comparison of Ethereum and Lisk as competitors but instead see them forming different parts of a larger integrated network. - Ethereum, with its massive parallel redundancy and decentralized consensus, would function as the brain.
- Lisk, with its speed and scalability, functions as the central nervous system. The main Lisk chain is the spinal cord and dapps branch off recursively as chains with other dapps as subchains, acting like nerve bundles and ganglia in an internet of chains integrated with high level IoT devices.
- Iota is like the peripheral nerves, extending the reach of the network into the smallest of IoT devices with its ability to run on very small units with limited CPU and memory resources.
It would make sense for all three projects to partner and coordinate integration among them. This. Fantastic analogy bitseed. Only technology that starts to mimic nature, can truly form a sustainable ecosystem.
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March 29, 2016, 05:15:07 AM |
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I have seen a lot of comparison of Ethereum and Lisk as competitors but instead see them forming different parts of a larger integrated network. - Ethereum, with its massive parallel redundancy and decentralized consensus, would function as the brain.
- Lisk, with its speed and scalability, functions as the central nervous system. The main Lisk chain is the spinal cord and dapps branch off recursively as chains with other dapps as subchains, acting like nerve bundles and ganglia in an internet of chains integrated with high level IoT devices.
- Iota is like the peripheral nerves, extending the reach of the network into the smallest of IoT devices with its ability to run on very small units with limited CPU and memory resources.
It would make sense for all three projects to partner and coordinate integration among them. I like the analogy. United we stand, divided we fall. Teamwork works ya'll. see my opinion is different. i have attempted to actually USE eth for months, unable to like everyone else. its a scam made by a super smart guy (vitalik was a mathmatician) eth is full of holes, solidarity is broken as shit my opinion is LISK should rally against eth, to show how eth abandoned the community and how DAPPS can be done without total greed and hype LISK WILL EAT ETH plain and simple eth is a joke, and now lisk will take the market cap those who wanna make cash like we did with eth come on over You mean solidity
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MGM
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March 29, 2016, 05:17:51 AM |
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I have seen a lot of comparison of Ethereum and Lisk as competitors but instead see them forming different parts of a larger integrated network. - Ethereum, with its massive parallel redundancy and decentralized consensus, would function as the brain.
- Lisk, with its speed and scalability, functions as the central nervous system. The main Lisk chain is the spinal cord and dapps branch off recursively as chains with other dapps as subchains, acting like nerve bundles and ganglia in an internet of chains integrated with high level IoT devices.
- Iota is like the peripheral nerves, extending the reach of the network into the smallest of IoT devices with its ability to run on very small units with limited CPU and memory resources.
It would make sense for all three projects to partner and coordinate integration among them. I like the analogy. United we stand, divided we fall. Teamwork works ya'll. see my opinion is different. i have attempted to actually USE eth for months, unable to like everyone else. its a scam made by a super smart guy (vitalik was a mathmatician) eth is full of holes, solidarity is broken as shit my opinion is LISK should rally against eth, to show how eth abandoned the community and how DAPPS can be done without total greed and hype LISK WILL EAT ETH plain and simple eth is a joke, and now lisk will take the market cap those who wanna make cash like we did with eth come on over I agree, Ethereum is just too complicated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_90Y8mw_HVYLisk is the answer to take dApps mainstream .
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